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Jim in CT
12-24-2021, 08:29 AM
A teacher at a school board meeting in Round Rock texas, mocked parents as being illiterate religious freaks, for opposing a few books that were in the middle school.

One of the books is called Gender Queer: A Memoir.

here’s a link to what’s in there, scroll down a bit, you’ll see some stuff i dont think is appropriate for any public middle school. and i like reading. my oldest was 11 when he started middle school.

can’t post pictures on my phone, but the link will bring you to some disgusting stuff.

No one is talking about banning worthwhile literature. this is disgusting smut.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/theiowastandard.com/shocking-images-from-book-gender-queer-which-is-stocked-in-school-libraries-across-iowa/%3famp

Raider Ronnie
12-24-2021, 09:25 AM
Jim
You’re as bad as Pete & a few others with the non stop post.
It’s Christmas
Give it a #^&#^&#^&#^&ing brake for a few days at least or even better till January 2nd.
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Jim in CT
12-24-2021, 09:35 AM
or you can not read it if you don’t want.

merry xmas to you and family as well!!
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Pete F.
12-24-2021, 09:43 AM
About 4% of the population identifies as LGBTQ and some estimates are double that.
How many parents could have an open discussion with their child about sexuality, especially if the child were one of the 4%?


Here’s some more books that some think should be banned.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/books/2021/09/27/banned-books-week-the-bluest-eye-harry-potter-1984-handmaids-tale-goosebumps-golden-compass/5758877001/
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Jim in CT
12-24-2021, 10:10 AM
pete i have no issue discussing sexuality appropriately.

did you look at the illustrations in the book? boys blowing each other? in a middle school?

it’s pornography. there’s no argument to be made, that it’s not pornography.

merry xmas pete.
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wdmso
12-24-2021, 12:49 PM
Same book was in SC High school I don’t think it’s inappropriate in high school setting it’s a book not part of any class or suggested reading.

The book is a safer way to deal with the issues in the book then what these same kids can find on their phones which these outraged parents seem to completely over look

At Jr high and below absolutely inappropriate but haven’t seen where that’s been the case

But this isn’t about protecting children no kid is going to pick up the book and become gay or Transgender, it’s just more of the same attacking the whole concept that Transgender kids exist , and removing a resource that’s safer than the internet and safer than their parents who may not be receptive that their kid is gay or possibly Transgender ..

Not to long ago kids just looked at moms Victoria secret catalogs to rub one out
Was that pornography…. To some I am sure it was

wdmso
12-24-2021, 12:53 PM
Here’s one if it’s a library book let’s see who checked it out ! Then the parents can find them, Or even see if it’s been looked at by a kid at all ..

More spoon fed outrage …. Don’t ask what’s in your Chinese food

spence
12-24-2021, 02:15 PM
But this isn’t about protecting children no kid is going to pick up the book and become gay or Transgender, it’s just more of the same attacking the whole concept that Transgender kids exist , and removing a resource that’s safer than the internet and safer than their parents who may not be receptive that their kid is gay or possibly Transgender ..
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS

Jim in CT
12-26-2021, 08:44 PM
Here’s one if it’s a library book let’s see who checked it out ! Then the parents can find them, Or even see if it’s been looked at by a kid at all ..

More spoon fed outrage …. Don’t ask what’s in your Chinese food

pornography. doesn’t. belong. in. public.. school.

sorry if that’s going too fast for you. i don’t want 11 year olds thinking about going down on each other.

if we can’t agree on this, there’s nothing that unites us, and we should split into two countries.

fnhie buden said this book was trash. you’d all agree. but you must always reflexively disagree with everything from the right.

stop buying pornography, buy more school
supplies. teachers are always complaining about having g to but classroom supplies.

divert money from pornography to supplies.
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spence
12-28-2021, 05:36 PM
I don’t see any references to this book being in middle schools, just high schools. Even the publisher has an age rating of 15 which seems appropriate.

Jim in CT
12-28-2021, 05:59 PM
I don’t see any references to this book being in middle schools, just high schools. Even the publisher has an age rating of 15 which seems appropriate.

illustrations of boys with their wangs deep down each others throats, is ok with you in a public school

it has zero business in any public school.



library? it’s not pornography?
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spence
12-28-2021, 06:09 PM
it’s not pornography?
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Not by most definions.

Got Stripers
12-28-2021, 06:11 PM
illustrations of boys with their wangs deep down each others throats, is ok with you in a public school

it has zero business in any public school.



library? it’s not pornography?
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It’s on the Catholic priests best seller list.

Jim in CT
12-28-2021, 06:12 PM
It’s on the Catholic priests best seller list.

good one!
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Jim in CT
12-28-2021, 06:20 PM
Not by most definions.

which definitions wouldn’t include illustrations of young men with their wangs in each others mouths?
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wdmso
12-28-2021, 07:36 PM
illustrations of boys with their wangs deep down each others throats, is ok with you in a public school

it has zero business in any public school.



library? it’s not pornography?
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1 book VS every kid in a public has a phone that connects to the internet ...

which is more likely to be shown to classmates

A a poorly drawn cartoon of a BJ or a Gay porn video on a phone!

like I said fake outrage because being against teachers and school boards is the latest conservative soup of the day :sleeps:

scottw
12-28-2021, 08:16 PM
and removing a resource

It’s a “resource”🤣
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Jim in CT
12-28-2021, 08:39 PM
1 book VS every kid in a public has a phone that connects to the internet ...

which is more likely to be shown to classmates

A a poorly drawn cartoon of a BJ or a Gay porn video on a phone!

like I said fake outrage because being against teachers and school boards is the latest conservative soup of the day :sleeps:

i’m not saying that book is the worst thing that ever existed. you’re saying because it’s not the worst, therefore it’s ok.

ok.

using that logic, hitler and mao were worse than Trump, so quit your “fake outrage” over trump.

sounds stupid,, doesn’t it?

school should be a safe place for kids, a place to be away from all the crap they see elsewhere.

republicans cannot have a position that’s actually principled, right? only liberals can do that. right?

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spence
12-28-2021, 11:04 PM
school should be a safe place for kids, a place to be away from all the crap they see elsewhere.
Perhaps for some teens navigating an LGBQT journey in life school is a safer place than home.

detbuch
12-28-2021, 11:21 PM
i’m not saying that book is the worst thing that ever existed. you’re saying because it’s not the worst, therefore it’s ok.

ok.

using that logic, hitler and mao were worse than Trump, so quit your “fake outrage” over trump.

sounds stupid,, doesn’t it?

school should be a safe place for kids, a place to be away from all the crap they see elsewhere.

republicans cannot have a position that’s actually principled, right? only liberals can do that. right?

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"Conservatives" are stuck in the old notion that school is for teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic, basics in the early years progressing to advanced versions and civics in order to prepare their children for success in their adult years as well to prepare them for the knowledge and moral based citizenship that puts our republic on solid ground.

Progressives have an advanced vision that sees K-12 as a training ground to prepare the children for the infinite variety of people and genders and experiences required to civilly acculturate them into the truly progressive international world of today and tomorrow. "illustrations of young men with their wangs in each others mouths" is but a small sample of the world they will grow into. They need to be prepared not only in how to participate, but to be cleansed from destructive negative judgments of the actual, beautiful world that exists in which they can immerse themselves rather than being extremist, nationalistic, (white)supremacist dangers to a peaceful well functioning world.

Jim in CT
12-29-2021, 11:58 AM
Perhaps for some teens navigating an LGBQT journey in life school is a safer place than home.

being free from hatred, doesn’t mean everyone else needs to see pictures of what they do in private.

you’re making this into
an anti gay thing. i’d say the same thing ( pretty much ) if the illustrations were of a boy and a girl doing oral. has zero business in school.
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Jim in CT
12-29-2021, 11:59 AM
"Conservatives" are stuck in the old notion that school is for teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic, basics in the early years progressing to advanced versions and civics in order to prepare their children for success in their adult years as well to prepare them for the knowledge and moral based citizenship that puts our republic on solid ground.

Progressives have an advanced vision that sees K-12 as a training ground to prepare the children for the infinite variety of people and genders and experiences required to civilly acculturate them into the truly progressive international world of today and tomorrow. "illustrations of young men with their wangs in each others mouths" is but a small sample of the world they will grow into. They need to be prepared not only in how to participate, but to be cleansed from destructive negative judgments of the actual, beautiful world that exists in which they can immerse themselves rather than being extremist, nationalistic, (white)supremacist dangers to a peaceful well functioning world.

that’s what it is, which his why my three are in catholic school
now
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scottw
12-29-2021, 12:21 PM
i’d say the same thing ( pretty much ) if the illustrations were of a boy and a girl doing oral.

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surely "resources" such as these are available in the school library as well...:humpty:

Pete F.
12-29-2021, 12:30 PM
So where are kids most likely to find this sort of stuff, the library, the internet or a streaming service.
I would be surprised if the library is even a small part.
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Jim in CT
12-29-2021, 12:49 PM
So where are kids most likely to find this sort of stuff, the library, the internet or a streaming service.
I would be surprised if the library is even a small part.
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probably more likely online. Doesn't mean we don't address pornography thats in the schools.

Are you more likely to die of heart disease or covid? Answer - heart disease. That doesn't mean you don't get the covid vaccine, right?

You guys all do the same exact thing. You're saying that because this isn't the single most serious threat that kids face, therefore it's not worth discussing.

It's absurd logic.

Jim in CT
12-29-2021, 12:50 PM
surely "resources" such as these are available in the school library as well...:humpty:

not where my kids go to school.

scottw
12-29-2021, 01:01 PM
So where are kids most likely to find this sort of stuff, the library, the internet or a streaming service.


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this is irrelevant....kids can get pot outside of school, should we offer it with their lunches? call it a resource?

spence
12-29-2021, 03:55 PM
not where my kids go to school.
Were you poking your finger into your chest when you wrote this?

Got Stripers
12-29-2021, 04:37 PM
Must be a slow news week if this is the crap you clowns have a hard on (oops) for. Probably hundreds of thousand of kids suffer from depression, cyber bullying and other stuff and Jim gets stuck on a book that probably doesn’t shock a single kid of age to see it.

Jim in CT
12-29-2021, 04:40 PM
Must be a slow news week if this is the crap you clowns have a hard on (oops) for. Probably hundreds of thousand of kids suffer from depression, cyber bullying and other stuff and Jim gets stuck on a book that probably doesn’t shock a single kid of age to see it.

another extremely intelligent response.

if you’re concerned about childhood depression, maybe your side could start advocating for what’s actually best for children, and stop taking orders from teachers unions.

have someone read to you, the thread title. it’s not about this book. it’s about teachers saying that parents who don’t want this book in school, are bigots who promote illiteracy.

attacking parents for caring, has been a super productive strategy for the left, it worked awesome
in Virginia where the democrats steamrolled the republicans.
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wdmso
12-29-2021, 06:11 PM
Why is it only the parents know of theses books , but seems none of their kids were forced to read them or ever read them .. seems the mortality police are back in business.. like they have in India or Islamic religious police and now the Christian Right are leading the GOP Culture’s Morality Police….

Here’s the list to the 850 books Texas looks to ban You might notice some common themes. It includes several books with "Black Lives Matter" in the title, and several others critical of policing. Multiple nonfiction books and memoirs on LGBTQIA+ lives and history, as well as books on how we categorize and assess gender. They're even targeting a book about the history of the man who invented Wonder Woman (because he was a polyamorous feminist into S&M and also invented the polygraph)! Pretty much every book with "Roe v Wade" in the title is on there as well; in fact, that goes all the way back to Michael Crichton's 1969 novel A Case of Need. Hell, there are a bunch of basic teen pregnancy and burgeoning sexuality books on there, too. They've even got Alan Moore's V for Vendetta on there


https://static.texastribune.org/media/files/94fee7ff93eff9609f141433e41f8ae1/krausebooklist.pdf?_ga=2.11573559.2091958781.16355 13476-272773625.1635513476

In addition to his compiled list, Rep. Krause alsoasks the districts to identity any other books or content that may "address or contain" certain topics including:

human sexuality, sexually transmitted diseases, or human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) or acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS), sexually explicit images, graphic presentations of sexual behavior that is in violation of the law, or contain material that might make students feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress because of their race or sex or convey that a student, by virtue of their race or sex, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously.


Why are conservatives up set over 1 book But willing to make another 850 books disappear
?
If not because of the GOP culture war some how convincing them that they are the only True Americans .. and any other view or idea is a danger to them and those around them? We’ve seen this tru history it never ends well
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Pete F.
12-29-2021, 07:07 PM
this is irrelevant....kids can get pot outside of school, should we offer it with their lunches? call it a resource?

Irrelevant?
You choose to fall in line on the sky screaming about something that is insignificant in the big picture.
You think that suicide rates among lgbtq youth are what?
Not high enough?
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spence
12-29-2021, 07:17 PM
Irrelevant?
You choose to fall in line on the sky screaming about something that is insignificant in the big picture.
You think that suicide rates among lgbtq youth are what?
Not high enough?
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Just pretend they don’t exist and lalalalalalala the problem will go away.

Jim in CT
12-29-2021, 07:42 PM
Irrelevant?
You choose to fall in line on the sky screaming about something that is insignificant in the big picture.
You think that suicide rates among lgbtq youth are what?
Not high enough?
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“something that insignificant in the big picture.”

Sure, sure, tell that to all the elected democrats in Va. this was the issue.
it’s got nothing to do with homophobia. i wouldn’t want illustrations of heterosexuals doing 69 either.

i accept them and want them
to thrive. but their intimate acts doesn’t need to be shoved in kids faces for them to feel validated.
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Pete F.
12-29-2021, 07:55 PM
“something that insignificant in the big picture.”

Sure, sure, tell that to all the elected democrats in Va. this was the issue.
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That’s the goal, find a straw man, make it an issue, the followers eat it up. Victimhood is easy to sell.

Defund, CRT, late term abortion, voter fraud

Just keep believing
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Jim in CT
12-29-2021, 08:04 PM
That’s the goal, find a straw man, make it an issue, the followers eat it up. Victimhood is easy to sell.

Defund, CRT, late term abortion, voter fraud

Just keep believing
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liberals aren’t soft on crime? that’s a gop myth? all those Soros prosecutors who think they’re public defenders??

when the uber liberal mayor of san francisco says “this bullsh*t has to stop”, she’s just regurgitating right wing talking points? she’s got zero legitimate reason to complain?

you keep thinking that.

how about inflation, are conservatives making that all up?

the border? are we actually seeing record high numbers of crossings, or is that a gop myth?

are covid deaths higher in 2021 then in 2020? does it take 2-3 days to get tested now, when a year ago you could get tested the same day you first wanted to?
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Pete F.
12-29-2021, 11:51 PM
Ahh Soros
Better watch it the Jewish space laser is up there

Why does American have a shortage of

1. Hospital beds and healthcare providers
2. Daycare centers
3. Metal health and addiction treatment
4. Living wage paying jobs

But has plenty of prisons?

If you have to deploy the military to support hospitals you may have spent your budget on the wrong part of the system given the challenges we actually face.

Meanwhile the 25 wealthiest families added $312 billion to their collective fortunes, a 22% gain since last August.
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Pete F.
12-30-2021, 12:04 AM
are covid deaths higher in 2021 then in 2020? does it take 2-3 days to get tested now, when a year ago you could get tested the same day you first wanted to?
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So, let me get this straight: the people who refuse to get vaccinated, refuse to wear masks, refuse to allow mask mandates in schools, etc., are now blaming President Biden for the Covid surge and claim he has no plan to end it? Really?
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scottw
12-30-2021, 06:33 AM
So, let me get this straight: the people who refuse to get vaccinated, refuse to wear masks, refuse to allow mask mandates in schools, etc., are now blaming President Biden for the Covid surge and claim he has no plan to end it? Really?
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pretty sure there's lot's of masked, vaxed, pro-mandaters blaming biden too:scream:

6 Days Ago New York Shatters Covid Record
5 Days Ago New York Smashed It's Covid Record Again
2 Days Ago New York Breaks Covid Record Again
10 Hours Ago New York Obliterates Single -Day Covid Case Record

what comes after "obliterates"?

hey pete, I think your "highly vaccinated" state is obliterating records

my "highly vaccinated" state is as well

I know, I know...but Florida

we can certainly blame biden, he wanted the job and he promised to get covid under control..repeatedly......he's fu$%ing everything up pretty good

maybe he should send out a bunch of rapid tests that won't/don't work...that would be perfectly bidenesque

NYTimes Will Shortened Isolation Periods Spread the Virus?
Without rapid testing, some experts fear new U.S. guidelines may mean infected people leave isolation while still contagious

“To me, this feels honestly more about economics than about the science,” said Yonatan Grad, an associate professor of immunology and infectious diseases at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

“I suspect what it will do is result in at least some people emerging from isolation more quickly, and so there’ll be more opportunities for transmission and that of course will accelerate the spread of Covid-19,” he added, noting that people were unlikely to adhere strictly to masking advice after leaving isolation.

Pete F.
12-30-2021, 08:52 AM
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but contracting Covid despite being fully vaccinated is no shame. It’s like getting hit by another car while driving…but you were wearing your seat belt and weren’t badly injured. You were smart. You saved your own and others’ lives.
Oh that’s right some people don’t wear those either because “freedom”
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scottw
12-30-2021, 08:58 AM
I don’t know who needs to hear this, but contracting Covid despite being fully vaccinated is no shame. It’s like getting hit by another car while driving…

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no, it's like you didn't wear your mask or wash your hands...

scottw
01-02-2022, 08:02 PM
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You think that suicide rates among lgbtq youth are what?
Not high enough?

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Giving them porn will probably help
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Jim in CT
01-02-2022, 08:10 PM
Giving them porn will probably help
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i’m fine for making sure those kids feel safe in school. but that has nothing to do with stocking the shelves with pornography. i want those people to have rich lives, but i don’t want to see disgusting pictures of their intimate acts. that’s for them
to do in private, not in public.

this is the dilemma. it’s not enough for liberals that those people are tolerated. we’re all supposed to go to their parades and hold
signs and stare at their pornography. we’re supposed to abandon our deeply held religious beliefs and participate in their intimacy. .

no thanks. this is why bedrooms have doors.

funny, pete and spence didn’t complain a syllable when obama
and hilary said they were adamantly opposed to gay marriage for religious reasons. but when conservatives say the same exact thing, then it’s bigotry.


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scottw
02-09-2022, 05:46 AM
hey Jim....

February 8, 2022

Parents in Enfield, Conn. are outraged after a health class assignment asked eighth graders to list their sexual likes and dislikes and boundaries, according to a new report.

Documents obtained by the nonprofit group Parents Defending Education show students were subjected to a lesson called “Pizza & Consent” that told students, “we can use pizza as a metaphor for sex!“If you’re a vegetarian, but your friend is a meat-lover, sharing a pizza is going to bring up a lot of issues. You don’t know who you can share pizza with unless you ask!” the assignment said. “The same goes with sex! You have to check in with your partner(s) and ask for their preferences.”

The assignment features a blank pizza with space to share pizza preferences “in relation to sex.” Pizza toppings were likened to sexual likes and dislikes. The assignment used “kissing” and “giving oral” as examples of toppings students could choose for their pizza.

Jim in CT
02-09-2022, 06:30 AM
hey Jim....

February 8, 2022

Parents in Enfield, Conn. are outraged after a health class assignment asked eighth graders to list their sexual likes and dislikes and boundaries, according to a new report.

Documents obtained by the nonprofit group Parents Defending Education show students were subjected to a lesson called “Pizza & Consent” that told students, “we can use pizza as a metaphor for sex!“If you’re a vegetarian, but your friend is a meat-lover, sharing a pizza is going to bring up a lot of issues. You don’t know who you can share pizza with unless you ask!” the assignment said. “The same goes with sex! You have to check in with your partner(s) and ask for their preferences.”

The assignment features a blank pizza with space to share pizza preferences “in relation to sex.” Pizza toppings were likened to sexual likes and dislikes. The assignment used “kissing” and “giving oral” as examples of toppings students could choose for their pizza.

i heard.

“Jim, why are your three kids in catholic school?”
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wdmso
02-09-2022, 03:13 PM
Florida school district "may not encourage classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in primary grade levels or in a manner that is not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students." The bill doesn't specify how "age-appropriate" and "developmentally appropriate" would be defined.

The bills would also give parents the ability to sue schools if they believed the schools violated any provisions of the law.

Parents Defending Education

Parents Defending Education is a national grassroots organization working to reclaim our schools from activists promoting harmful agendas. Through network and coalition building, investigative reporting, litigation, and engagement on local, state, and national policies, we are fighting indoctrination in the classroom -- and for the restoration of a healthy, non-political education for our kids.


WELCOME TO

IndoctriNation


Scott and Jim you 2 will support anything without a 2nd look

Seems as with most conservatives the only acceptable form of indoctrination

is their vision and harmful agendas.


Just another culture war non profit hiding as a legitimate organization

Parents Defending Education
Website: defendinged.org/
Tax-Exempt Status: 501(c)(3)
Website: https://defendinged.org/
Location: Arlington, Virginia
Founded: 2021


Funny Donor Reporting No Longer Required for Non-501(c)(3) Organizations to show Donors


Koch Connections and Sham Grassroots of Parents Defending Education

Mercedes Schneider has figured out the grassroots angle in Parents Defending Education: Prefab “Grassroots”—PDE needs local connections to claim standing in law suits to chill the free speech of any educator who questions white supremacy. Peter Greene minces no words in Parents Defending Education: Astroturf Goes Hard Right:

PDE is particularly odious because of its whole “turn in any teacher or school that offends you” approach to chilling conversation and teaching. This is not just astrotyurf (sic), but astroturf with its brown shirt on.

https://www.masspoliticsprofs.org/2021/04/12/koch-connections-and-sham-grassroots-of-parents-defending-education/