in the 2019-2020 congress, senate democrats used the fillibuster 300+ times.

Now, they act like supporting the fillibuster, is akin to supporting slavery.

How convenient for them, that filibustering is totally ok when democrats are in the minority, and fillibuster is awful when democrats are in the majority.

https://repustar.com/fact-briefs/do-both-political-parties-have-a-history-of-using-filibusters

you would expect something different from them? :jester:

you would expect something different from them? :jester:

no, i’m just curious to see how they attempt to deny the glaring hypocrisy.
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232 years ago, in 1790, a simple majority could end any debate.

The current form of filibuster that Manchin is protecting—in which votes can't happen until 60 Senators agree—didn't exist until 1975. Hundreds of exceptions have been made to it, including one last month.
The filibuster arose by accident: in 1805, the Senate streamlined its rules at the urging of Aaron Burr. Nobody thought they were creating a vehicle for obstruction, and no one used it that way until 1837, after the Framers were dead.
The first filibuster, in 1837, failed. It included a Senator being dragged into the Senate by the Sergeant-at-Arms then dragged back out again when he got saucy with the presiding officer. “Am I not permitted to speak in my own defense?” he cried, and the answer was no.
Up until the 20th Century, most filibusters failed. They required holding the Senate floor and compliance with every rule. An 1893 filibuster on a silver bill went on for 46 days and failed. A 1908 filibuster failed by an accidental yielding to a Senator who had stepped out.
Even after the initial cloture rule in 1917, filibusters were still rare, and still typically failed except in the lone area of civil rights laws.

When Joe Manchin was born in 1947, the Senate still operated almost entirely by majority-rule.
The few successful filibusters had a theme: anti-lynching legislation in 1922, 1935, and 1938. Anti-poll-tax legislation in 1942, 1944, 1946, 1948, and 1962. Civil rights legislation in 1946, 1950, 1957, 1960, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1972, and 1975. Some tradition, huh?
The very first time in American history that Senators could block legislation *without* indefinitely holding the Senate floor (while also complying with all Senate rules) was 1972.
It’s all downhill from there
There's no "tradition" to the current filibuster, and it has been constantly modified. The only real Senate tradition, as Byrd himself recognized, was that a majority could invoke cloture whenever it wanted by changing the rules. Which it has. Repeatedly. Like last month.
There's no principled or historical justification for the current filibuster in which GOP priorities—judges, tax cuts, drilling on fed land, regulatory rollbacks—go to a majority vote but voting rights, minimum wage, and immigration can't get a vote until 60 Senators agree.

Keep in mind that the corrupt Kentucky Senator who broke the Senate said that the Senate is not broken.
The turtle will run the table and dispense with the pretenses of previous years, as he did with the ACB nomination. "We would NEVER dump the filibuster because we didn't four years ago" is "We'll NEVER do a nomination that close to an election. Until we do."
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Research by Slate on filibusters between 1991 and 2008 found that Democrats successfully filibustered 63 times while Republicans successfully filibustered 89 times.


But again Jim leaves out that they are looking to temporally change the rule for the John Lewis voting act which passed last time to just be debated

By a Vote of 98-0, Senate Approves 25-Year Extension of Voting Rights Act
Under Bush. Now no Republicans in the Senate voted for it? To even be debated


If Republicans want to argue that many leading Democrats have changed their minds about the propriety of filibusters, they'll have plenty of accurate content to work with. But context matters: the routinization of once-rare filibusters has changed the nature of the debate.

Research by Slate on filibusters between 1991 and 2008 found that Democrats successfully filibustered 63 times while Republicans successfully filibustered 89 times.


But again Jim leaves out that they are looking to temporally change the rule for the John Lewis voting act which passed last time to just be debated

By a Vote of 98-0, Senate Approves 25-Year Extension of Voting Rights Act
Under Bush. Now no Republicans in the Senate voted for it? To even be debated


If Republicans want to argue that many leading Democrats have changed their minds about the propriety of filibusters, they'll have plenty of accurate content to work with. But context matters: the routinization of once-rare filibusters has changed the nature of the debate.

What's the point of a fillibuster, if the majority party can remove it for certain pieces of legislation?

"the routinization of once-rare filibusters has changed the nature of the debate."

BOTH SIDES do it routinely. Only one side wants to do away with it because they can't get what they want by following the rules.

"they are looking to temporally change the rule"

As if that matters. They used the fillibuster when it suited them. Now it's an obstacle and they refuse to play by the same rules that they demanded the GOP play by last year.

Pete;s defense: "it's OK, they only want to occasionally do away with it, meaning every time the fillibuster prevents them from passing legislation they can't pass within the rules."

Since the right to vote is prob. the most important thing we can do as a citizen, Biden prob. got fed up w/states trying to prevent citizens from voting by passing voting restrictions in an attempt to prevent people from voting (Intent).

It is crazy to pass a law that says you cannot give someone in line waiting to vote a bottle of water. How about opening (instead of closing) more voting places so people don't have to wait in line so long that they actually get hungry/thirsty.

232 years ago, in 1790, a simple majority could end any debate.

The current form of filibuster that Manchin is protecting—in which votes can't happen until 60 Senators agree—didn't exist until 1975. Hundreds of exceptions have been made to it, including one last month.
The filibuster arose by accident: in 1805, the Senate streamlined its rules at the urging of Aaron Burr. Nobody thought they were creating a vehicle for obstruction, and no one used it that way until 1837, after the Framers were dead.
The first filibuster, in 1837, failed. It included a Senator being dragged into the Senate by the Sergeant-at-Arms then dragged back out again when he got saucy with the presiding officer. “Am I not permitted to speak in my own defense?” he cried, and the answer was no.
Up until the 20th Century, most filibusters failed. They required holding the Senate floor and compliance with every rule. An 1893 filibuster on a silver bill went on for 46 days and failed. A 1908 filibuster failed by an accidental yielding to a Senator who had stepped out.
Even after the initial cloture rule in 1917, filibusters were still rare, and still typically failed except in the lone area of civil rights laws.

When Joe Manchin was born in 1947, the Senate still operated almost entirely by majority-rule.
The few successful filibusters had a theme: anti-lynching legislation in 1922, 1935, and 1938. Anti-poll-tax legislation in 1942, 1944, 1946, 1948, and 1962. Civil rights legislation in 1946, 1950, 1957, 1960, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1972, and 1975. Some tradition, huh?
The very first time in American history that Senators could block legislation *without* indefinitely holding the Senate floor (while also complying with all Senate rules) was 1972.
It’s all downhill from there
There's no "tradition" to the current filibuster, and it has been constantly modified. The only real Senate tradition, as Byrd himself recognized, was that a majority could invoke cloture whenever it wanted by changing the rules. Which it has. Repeatedly. Like last month.
There's no principled or historical justification for the current filibuster in which GOP priorities—judges, tax cuts, drilling on fed land, regulatory rollbacks—go to a majority vote but voting rights, minimum wage, and immigration can't get a vote until 60 Senators agree.

Keep in mind that the corrupt Kentucky Senator who broke the Senate said that the Senate is not broken.
The turtle will run the table and dispense with the pretenses of previous years, as he did with the ACB nomination. "We would NEVER dump the filibuster because we didn't four years ago" is "We'll NEVER do a nomination that close to an election. Until we do."
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"The current form of filibuster that Manchin is protecting"

And which senate democrats used to their advantage as recently as last year, right? It wasn't that long ago, that every democrat in the senate loved the fillibuster.

And Paul, was it only the GOP who flip-floppped at whether or not presidents should make SCOTUS appointments near the end of a term?

Remember, what McConnell did, was to invoke the Biden Rule. When Bush was president, Biden said no president should make a nomination near the end of his term, and that if he did, the senate should block it. Biden said that, it was known as the Biden Rule. But when Republicans invoked the Biden rule (when Biden was VP), then all of a sudden, it was OK for presidents to make late term appointments. Then when Trump did it, democrats flipped again, saying it was bad.

And OBVIOUSLY, the republicans were as hypocritical on the topic as democrats. But you're only pointing out GOP hypocrisy, as if that's all there is.

None of them have any actual principles, except to win.

Since the right to vote is prob. the most important thing we can do as a citizen, Biden prob. got fed up w/states trying to prevent citizens from voting by passing voting restrictions in an attempt to prevent people from voting (Intent).

It is crazy to pass a law that says you cannot give someone in line waiting to vote a bottle of water. How about opening (instead of closing) more voting places so people don't have to wait in line so long that they actually get hungry/thirsty.

As I understand it, the law only prevents candidates and their campaigns, from handing out water. Polling places can have water and food, it just can't come from a campaign. I agree it's a silly rule, but also not a big deal, how many people are dying of dehydration in November while standing in line to vote?

I think more voting places is a great idea.

And I think the liberal opposition to showing ids, is horsesh-t.

If you found a bunch of professional problem solvers who had zero political affiliation, and asked them how to make sure voting is honest, the first thing they'd say is "in person voting when possible, with id verification".

It cannot be racist to require id, unless you make blacks follow a harder process to get the id, than whites.

As I understand it, the law only prevents candidates and their campaigns, from handing out water. Polling places can have water and food, it just can't come from a campaign. I agree it's a silly rule, but also not a big deal, how many people are dying of dehydration in November while standing in line to vote?

I think more voting places is a great idea.

And I think the liberal opposition to showing ids, is horsesh-t.

If you found a bunch of professional problem solvers who had zero political affiliation, and asked them how to make sure voting is honest, the first thing they'd say is "in person voting when possible, with id verification".

It cannot be racist to require id, unless you make blacks follow a harder process to get the id, than whites.

Ron DeathSantis is currently talking about issues with voting fraud in Florida.

Remember, the only four people charged with voter fraud in Floriduh 2020 were four Republicans from the Villages.

Ron DeathSantis is currently talking about issues with voting fraud in Florida.

Remember, the only four people charged with voter fraud in Floriduh 2020 were four Republicans from the Villages.

You should email the governor, tell him you call him that, see if it doesn't make him resign in shame.

Meanwhile, 900 people a day are moving there from out of state.

https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-new-york-jersey-migration-tax-finance-desantis-pandemic-relocate-2021-5

At this point, you have to be an utter dupe to think Republicans won’t get rid of the filibuster on their own.

You should email the governor, tell him you call him that, see if it doesn't make him resign in shame.

Meanwhile, 900 people a day are moving there from out of state.

https://www.businessinsider.com/florida-new-york-jersey-migration-tax-finance-desantis-pandemic-relocate-2021-5

They need them

A Florida state agency spokesman was killed in an apparent road rage incident near the state capital, authorities said.

The Leon County Sheriff's Office said in a news release that John Kuczwanski, who was the director of external affairs for Florida's State Board of Administration, was killed in a shooting outside a convenience store last Thursday.

At this point, you have to be an utter dupe to think Republicans won’t get rid of the filibuster on their own.

begs the question, why didn’t they do it in 2020 when the democrats filibustered everything?
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begs the question, why didn’t they do it in 2020 when the democrats filibustered everything?
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you'll have to ask the turtle

They need them

A Florida state agency spokesman was killed in an apparent road rage incident near the state capital, authorities said.

The Leon County Sheriff's Office said in a news release that John Kuczwanski, who was the director of external affairs for Florida's State Board of Administration, was killed in a shooting outside a convenience store last Thursday.

great rebuttal, because we all know i said there’s zero violent crime in FL.

there are terrible places in every state.

you really are precious. what a comeback that was! Zing!
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Actually I think they are moving to Floriduh from West Virginia, Louisiana, North Dakota and Mississippi.

But they couldn't possibly be leaving those cheap Republican states, could they?

Actually I think they are moving to Floriduh from West Virginia, Louisiana, North Dakota and Mississippi.

But they couldn't possibly be leaving those cheap Republican states, could they?

i’m sure you want to convince yourself of that.

but according to this data, NY sends the most people moving to FL, and CA is ranked 5th for losing people
to FL.

how about that?


https://stacker.com/florida/states-sending-most-people-florida
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i’m sure you want to convince yourself of that.

but according to this data, NY sends the most people moving to FL, and CA is ranked 5th for losing people
to FL.

how about that?


https://stacker.com/florida/states-sending-most-people-florida
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How about that

Moved from California to Florida in 2019: 28,628
--- 4.8% of new residents that moved from another state
--- #7 most common destination from California
- Moved from Florida to California in 2019: 22,692
--- #4 most common destination from Florida

Moved from New York to Florida in 2019: 57,488
--- 9.6% of new residents that moved from another state
--- #2 most common destination from New York
- Moved from Florida to New York in 2019: 18,976
--- #8 most common destination from Florida

Moved from Georgia to Florida in 2019: 49,681
--- 8.3% of new residents that moved from another state
--- #1 most common destination from Georgia
- Moved from Florida to Georgia in 2019: 46,235
--- #1 most common destination from Florida

Lately it seems like Georgia is tilting left, are all the Dems leaving Floriduh?

in a brilliant move, Senator Tom Cotton read a speech on the floor of the senate, it was a speech written by someone else, talking about how vital the filibuster is, how crucial it is to give the minority some ability to limit what the majority does, how important the filibuster is to ensure some stability.

It was a speech written and previously delivered, by Chuck Schumer.

It was a brilliant and glorious move by Cotton to show how unprincipled, hypocritical, and opportunistic the current democrats are.
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in a brilliant move, Senator Tom Cotton read a speech on the floor of the senate, it was a speech written by someone else, talking about how vital the filibuster is, how crucial it is to give the minority some ability to limit what the majority does, how important the filibuster is to ensure some stability.

It was a speech written and previously delivered, by Chuck Schumer.

It was a brilliant and glorious move by Cotton to show how unprincipled, hypocritical, and opportunistic the current democrats are.
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The reason the Ds want to remove the filibuster is bc the Rs want to limit people's ability to vote (Intent). That shows how unprincipled and frankly sleazy the current Rs. are.

The reason the Ds want to remove the filibuster is bc the Rs want to limit people's ability to vote (Intent). That shows how unprincipled and frankly sleazy the current Rs. are.

yes, we want to ensure that the people who vote, are who they claim to be. What a “sleazy” thing to aspire to.

Biden gave his speech in GA, the liberal ground zero for alleged voter suppression. Except they allow more early voting days than. ideas home state of Deleware. and if showing an if to get an absentee ballot is so bad, why does MN do it?

Paul, are you ok with checking signatures to verify absentee ballots? How many people are actually properly trained to compare signatures?

I live in Ct, and every year they check my id to vote. I can’t vote unless i show it. Why is that requirement only racist when certain states do it?


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yes, we want to ensure that the people who vote, are who they claim to be. What a “sleazy” thing to aspire to.



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And yet they can't find any real fraud. The rare fraud they do find seems to be old white guys who are registered as Rs and vote twice.

You're big on "Intent" and we both know what the intent of these numerous laws are - to make it more difficult for people to vote. That is as sleazy as it gets.

And yet they can't find any real fraud. The rare fraud they do find seems to be old white guys who are registered as Rs and vote twice.

You're big on "Intent" and we both know what the intent of these numerous laws are - to make it more difficult for people to vote. That is as sleazy as it gets.

there’s some fraud. why not address it? isn’t less fraud always better than more fraud?

i’m big on intent. like people who oppose drug tests, it’s hard for
me to not be suspicious of those who oppose something as obvious as requiring IDs. both sides are trying to gain arvantage. i don’t buy that requiring IDs meaningfully suppresses the vote. there are too many every day things we need id for, to convince me that huge numbers of people
don’t have them.

you chose not to answer the questions i asked. how effective is it to look at signatures on absentee ballots? how many people are really trained to analyze signatures.

and if ID requirements are racist, why does my Ct suburb require them? i assume
that’s a state law, not a town thing? they will not let me vote without showing ID.
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You keep saying some fraud but it's so minuscule and has no impact and it seems most of it is by Republicans on a one off basis. Georgia has been closing drop boxes including closing them days before the election when most people use them. Blacks have a tradition of voting the Sunday before the election after church and going together. Anyone can't honestly believe this is about preventing fraud when there is almost none. The only reason these laws are changing is to prevent people from voting pure and simple. Preventing people from voting is sleazy.
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The only reason these laws are changing is to prevent people from voting pure and simple.

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we know that you will continue to try to convince yourself of this,,,

You keep saying some fraud but it's so minuscule and has no impact and it seems most of it is by Republicans on a one off basis. Georgia has been closing drop boxes including closing them days before the election when most people use them. Blacks have a tradition of voting the Sunday before the election after church and going together. Anyone can't honestly believe this is about preventing fraud when there is almost none. The only reason these laws are changing is to prevent people from voting pure and simple. Preventing people from voting is sleazy.
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paul they dont check and verify every single vote so who knows.

third time, is CT racist for requiring id?

GA has very high black voting turnout.
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paul they dont check and verify every single vote so who knows.

third time, is CT racist for requiring id?

GA has very high black voting turnout.
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Jim, you don't seem to be getting Paul's point. Republican's want to require ID to vote because they want to suppress the vote. Democrats, such as in CT, require ID to vote in order to prevent fraud. Different intent.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Jim, you don't seem to be getting Paul's point. Republican's want to require ID to vote because they want to suppress the vote. Democrats, such as in CT, require ID to vote in order to prevent fraud. Different intent.

Hope that clears it up for you.

crystal clear.
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to prevent non-existent fraud. Different intent.

Hope that clears it up for you.

fixed it for you :rotf2:

GA has very high black voting turnout.
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In Georgia is doing everything they can to lower that turn out. Intent
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In Georgia is doing everything they can to lower that turn out. Intent
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if that’s their intent, they’re failing.

if you’re afraid of voter integrity, maybe it’s because you’re counting on shenanigans.

what’s the intent behind dodging questions?
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If you think people should go to jail for fraudulently casting one person's vote, shouldn't they also go to jail for attempting to forge the votes of millions?
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If you think people should go to jail for fraudulently casting one person's vote, shouldn't they also go to jail for attempting to forge the votes of millions?
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please point out where i said anyone should go to jail
for anything voting related?
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please point out where i said anyone should go to jail
for anything voting related?
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he likes to skip around...serious adhd

he likes to skip around...serious adhd

more like schizophrenia.
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BareShelvesBiden was trending earlier in the week...I suspect BadWeekBiden will begin trending shortly....:rotflmao:

BareShelvesBiden was trending earlier in the week...I suspect BadWeekBiden will begin trending shortly....:rotflmao:

He's having such an obviously horrible week, that even he might be realizing he had a bad week.

When Al Sharpton criticizes you because you gave a speech that was too divisive, too hateful towards the other side, you know you went too far.

What's the intent of limiting drop boxes in Fulton County which is Atlanta to one for every hundred thousand people?
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if that’s their intent, they’re failing.

if you’re afraid of voter integrity, maybe it’s because you’re counting on shenanigans.

what’s the intent behind dodging questions?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device they passed laws since the last election in Georgia which they lost. If you're afraid of people voting and do all you can to prevent them from voting you're just plain sleazy. I have no intention of dodging questions but once you start responding to every question that Jim wants you're on page 20.
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they passed laws since the last election in Georgia which they lost. If you're afraid of people voting and do all you can to prevent them from voting you're just plain sleazy. I have no intention of dodging questions but once you start responding to every question that Jim wants you're on page 20.
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Yes GA passed a new law. The new (current) law, allows MORE days of early voting than Bidens state of Deleware, and has the same voter ID requirements that MN has. But no one is complaining about those states. Because everything is always OK when democrats do it, only a problem when Republicans do it.

"do all you can to prevent them from voting you're just plain sleazy"

For the 3rd time (sorry if you responded), why isn't is "sleazy" for CT to require that we show an id to vote? Why is it only "sleazy" to you, when republicans suggest it?

I want everyone to vote. Just prove who you are. We all have ids today. Can't do much without one.

" have no intention of dodging questions but once you start responding to every question that Jim wants you're on page 20.
"

So you have the time to insult me for asking questions, but not the time to simply answer the question.

Connecticut is as blue as it gets, and you cannot vote without showing a picture id. But you won't call Connecticut sleazy.

What's the intent of limiting drop boxes in Fulton County which is Atlanta to one for every hundred thousand people?
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Sincere question, what's a drop box? People just drop off a ballot? No one checks who they are? If that's what they are, there should be zero drop boxes. But I think it's a good idea to have more polling places. No one should have to wait more than an hour to vote.

That's what it looks like to answer a question. You asked a good and fair question, and I answered it directly.

What would it take, for you to show me the same courtesy?

Yes GA passed a new law. The new (current) law, allows MORE days of early voting than Bidens state of Deleware, and has the same voter ID requirements that MN has. But no one is complaining about those states. Because everything is always OK when democrats do it, only a problem when Republicans do it.

"do all you can to prevent them from voting you're just plain sleazy"

For the 3rd time (sorry if you responded), why isn't is "sleazy" for CT to require that we show an id to vote? Why is it only "sleazy" to you, when republicans suggest it?

I want everyone to vote. Just prove who you are. We all have ids today. Can't do much without one.

" have no intention of dodging questions but once you start responding to every question that Jim wants you're on page 20.
"

So you have the time to insult me for asking questions, but not the time to simply answer the question.

Connecticut is as blue as it gets, and you cannot vote without showing a picture id. But you won't call Connecticut sleazy.
You could compare one state to another all you want but the fact of the matter is Georgia is changing their laws to make it harder for people to vote. It has nothing to do with fraud. The INTENT is to limit people's ability to vote.

If you think that's an insult stop your whining. You can take that as an insult I guess.
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Sincere question, what's a drop box? People just drop off a ballot? No one checks who they are? If that's what they are, there should be zero drop boxes. But I think it's a good idea to have more polling places. No one should have to wait more than an hour to vote.

That's what it looks like to answer a question. You asked a good and fair question, and I answered it directly.

What would it take, for you to show me the same courtesy?
Because we've answered this question dozens of times why some people have a hard time getting IDs. Go back and search. Why do we need to discuss the same thing over and over and over again because Jim wants to talk about it and if the other person doesn't want to engage with Jim then Jim thinks their duc king the question when in fact nobody is interested in going back and forth again and again and again and again with you. Even answering it one more time is ridiculous because next time you bring up the same issue you're going to say the same thing over and over and over again and will ask the person to just answer it one more time.
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You could compare one state to another all you want but the fact of the matter is Georgia is changing their laws to make it harder for people to vote. It has nothing to do with fraud. The INTENT is to limit people's ability to vote.

If you think that's an insult stop your whining. You can take that as an insult I guess.
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If the intent is to limit peoples ability to vote, then it would limit the ability of potentially everyone in Georgia to vote since it applies to all the counties in Georgia not just to Fulton, and to all Republicans as well as Dems in Fulton and the other counties. Drop boxes were a Covid emergency program, not something that was meant to be forever. Lowering the number of drop boxes may be less convenient for some, but does not limit the ability to vote. Making it more and more convenient can lead to making it easier for shenanigans. The most reliable method is in person voting with ID. If we expand the number of days or weeks to vote, and we create more polling places and more hours in the day to vote, that should take care the problem of long lines and ability to easily walk to a voting location, and would make in person voting more convenient.

I prefer the most reliable way to the most convenient. I believe voting is too important (one of the most important things in a democratic system) to settle for convenience over reliability. Even if some believe that there is supposedly no evidence of substantial fraud.

And Georgia's voting law has been lied about:

https://news.yahoo.com/setting-record-straight-georgia-voter-164658566.html

Because we've answered this question dozens of times why some people have a hard time getting IDs. Go back and search. Why do we need to discuss the same thing over and over and over again because Jim wants to talk about it and if the other person doesn't want to engage with Jim then Jim thinks their duc king the question when in fact nobody is interested in going back and forth again and again and again and again with you. Even answering it one more time is ridiculous because next time you bring up the same issue you're going to say the same thing over and over and over again and will ask the person to just answer it one more time.
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why isn’t CTs voter ID requirement racist then?

answer : i have no desire to go back and forth.

it’s not hard to get ids. how do those people do banking, go to the doctor, get medicine, etc? if there are a meaningful number of people who are that disenfranchised ( and that’s a huge “if”) why do they all of a sudden want to participate in society on election day?

doesn’t pass the common sense test.

you can make a good case about gerrymandering and closing polling places. but a huge majority of americans favor voter ID laws. are they all racist?
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Because we've answered this question dozens of times why some people have a hard time getting IDs. Go back and search. Why do we need to discuss the same thing over and over and over again because Jim wants to talk about it and if the other person doesn't want to engage with Jim then Jim thinks their duc king the question when in fact nobody is interested in going back and forth again and again and again and again with you. Even answering it one more time is ridiculous because next time you bring up the same issue you're going to say the same thing over and over and over again and will ask the person to just answer it one more time.
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actually, Jim asked a question about a current topic to begin the thread and you reflexively began vomiting the same false talking points that you've vomited over and over sooooo....maybe bring some new material

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Since the right to vote is prob. the most important thing we can do as a citizen, Biden prob. got fed up w/states trying to prevent citizens from voting by passing voting restrictions in an attempt to prevent people from voting (Intent).

It is crazy to pass a law that says you cannot give someone in line waiting to vote a bottle of water. How about opening (instead of closing) more voting places so people don't have to wait in line so long that they actually get hungry/thirsty.




"REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT BLACK PEOPLE TO DRINK WATER!!!!!"RACISTS!!!!!


really???

have you noticed that the same people that accuse of others of authoritarianism and fascism and various other isms are the ones constantly trying to consolidate and centralize power and control of virtually every aspect of life in Washington where unaccountable agencies and mega corporations and media can keep everyone in line and told what to think?....or else

have you noticed that the same people that accuse of others of authoritarianism and fascism and various other isms are the ones constantly trying to consolidate and centralize power and control of virtually every aspect of life in Washington where unaccountable agencies and mega corporations and media can keep everyone in line and told what to think?....or else

“projecting” - when those who want more federal government take over, accuse those who want more personal liberty, of being authoritarian.

it sounds great. But it doesn’t exactly make sense.
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National. Socialism. That has a certain ring to it but I can't put my finger on it...

Steve Bannon: “But the oligarchs’ day is coming. Remember, we’re going to turn all the social media companies into public utilities — public utilities, and get like a 7% return … and the public has to have a voice in the control of it.”

He’s a nationalist *and* a socialist.
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National. Socialism. That has a certain ring to it but I can't put my finger on it...

Steve Bannon: “But the oligarchs’ day is coming. Remember, we’re going to turn all the social media companies into public utilities — public utilities, and get like a 7% return … and the public has to have a voice in the control of it.”

He’s a nationalist *and* a socialist.
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he’s also irrelevant. conservatives, by and large, don’t want nationalism.

conservatives want less federal control.

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Bannon is not irrelevant.
He’s on the air for three hours every day.
Plenty of Trumplicans follow and believe.
The Gym Jordans, MTGs, Gohmerts, Ghoulianis and Rapey McForeheads are a significant force in the Trumplican Party.
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Bannon is not irrelevant.
He’s on the air for three hours every day.
Plenty of Trumplicans follow and believe.
The Gym Jordans, MTGs, Gohmerts, Ghoulianis and Rapey McForeheads are a significant force in the Trumplican Party.
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where is he on the air? on a major network?

he’s relevant to the fringe. not to the mainstream.

pete, most republicans don’t want what he described. i’m sorry if that makes it harder for you to paint us all as marxists. but most of us want less federal intrusion into our lives,,not more. That’s the truth whether you like it or not.

the left wants bigger federal government, the right wants smaller federal government. That’s the way it is, regardless of your hilarious nicknames for all of them.
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The Gym Jordans, MTGs, Gohmerts, Ghoulianis and Rapey McForeheads are a significant force in the Trumplican Party.


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ok...that was pretty funny,,,,,,:uhuh:

where is he on the air? on a major network?

he’s relevant to the fringe. not to the mainstream.

pete, most republicans don’t want what he described. i’m sorry if that makes it harder for you to paint us all as marxists. but most of us want less federal intrusion into our lives,,not more. That’s the truth whether you like it or not.

the left wants bigger federal government, the right wants smaller federal government. That’s the way it is, regardless of your hilarious nicknames for all of them.
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Plenty of the Trumplicans think that they deserve control of the government.

That’s why the people who forged the election documents and submitted them to the National Archives not only were stupid enough to think this would work, they actually filmed themselves signing the forgery.

No, stupidity is not a defense.
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Plenty of the Trumplicans think that they deserve control of the government.

That’s why the people who forged the election documents and submitted them to the National Archives not only were stupid enough to think this would work, they actually filmed themselves signing the forgery.

No, stupidity is not a defense.
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each side thinks they deserve control. it’s what they aspire to do with it. jeez.
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National. Socialism. That has a certain ring to it but I can't put my finger on it...

Steve Bannon: “But the oligarchs’ day is coming. Remember, we’re going to turn all the social media companies into public utilities — public utilities, and get like a 7% return … and the public has to have a voice in the control of it.”

He’s a nationalist *and* a socialist.
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National Socialism was the doctrine of the NAZI party. You, and others on this forum have claimed that the NAZIs were "conservatives." Here, you are implying they were socialists. Which is it?

Here, you imply that Bannon is a socialist because he wants to turn social media companies into public utilities. But public utilities are not necessarily government owned. They can also be privately owned. And you have claimed that the US is not socialist. Even though we have lots of public utilities. And you seem to be in favor of more and more government regulation and control of business and healthcare. So which is it? Are we socialist or capitalist?

Bannon, BTW, is a capitalist--as in what he considers "enlightened capitalism." He is against crony capitalism and the Ayn Rand form of capitalism. He wants to deconstruct the administrative state (the semi-socialistic grip on our lives by unelected bureaucrats). And he is virulently against various forms of 20th century authoritarianism. His 2004 documentary film shows the evils of Bolshevism, Communism, Nazism, and Fascism. He is pro-Western Civilization--particularly the Judeo-Christian West.

National Socialism was the doctrine of the NAZI party. You, and others on this forum have claimed that the NAZIs were "conservatives." Here, you are implying they were socialists. Which is it?

Here, you imply that Bannon is a socialist because he wants to turn social media companies into public utilities. But public utilities are not necessarily government owned. They can also be privately owned. And you have claimed that the US is not socialist. Even though we have lots of public utilities. And you seem to be in favor of more and more government regulation and control of business and healthcare. So which is it? Are we socialist or capitalist?

Bannon, BTW, is a capitalist--as in what he considers "enlightened capitalism." He is against crony capitalism and the Ayn Rand form of capitalism. He wants to deconstruct the administrative state (the semi-socialistic grip on our lives by unelected bureaucrats). And he is virulently against various forms of 20th century authoritarianism. His 2004 documentary film shows the evils of Bolshevism, Communism, Nazism, and Fascism. He is pro-Western Civilization--particularly the Judeo-Christian West.

Now you can extoll the virtues of Viktor Orban, Putin and Bolsonaro
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Now you can extoll the virtues of Viktor Orban, Putin and Bolsonaro
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After not being able to clarify if you believe having public utilities makes a country sorcialist, or whether you believe NAZIS were socialist or believe they were conservative, are you admitting that being a capitalist is a virtue?

National Socialism was the doctrine of the NAZI party. You, and others on this forum have claimed that the NAZIs were "conservatives." .

I don't know when we started equating Nazis with conservatives, but it's absurd. They wanted massive, total, federal control of peoples lives. That does sound somewhat like one of the two American political parties, but it ain't the conservatives.

After not being able to clarify if you believe having public utilities makes a country sorcialist, or whether you believe NAZIS were socialist or believe they were conservative, are you admitting that being a capitalist is a virtue?

Sorry, but Bannon, Orban, Putin and Bolsonaro are not my idea of good examples of capitalists
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Sorry, but Bannon, Orban, Putin and Bolsonaro are not my idea of good examples of capitalists
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Your opinions are not golden. Nor have I said those guys were good capitalists. Nor did I say Bannon is a good capitalist. I merely pointed out that he is a capitalist, not a NAZI socialist as you were spouting.

Your opinions are not golden. Nor have I said those guys were good capitalists. Nor did I say Bannon is a good capitalist. I merely pointed out that he is a capitalist, not a NAZI socialist as you were spouting.

Did I say Nazi?
Or did you?

Perhaps you could apply that same logic to America First as being anti Semitic, works just as well
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Did I say Nazi?
Or did you?

You said "National. Socialism. That has a certain ring to it but I can't put my finger on it..." Did I mistake what ring it had to you?


Perhaps you could apply that same logic to America First as being anti Semitic, works just as well
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America First includes all the Semites in it as Americans First. It does not include eradicating them.

America First includes all the Semites in it as Americans First. It does not include eradicating them.

History only counts when you want it to.
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History only counts when you want it to.
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More fortune cookie wisdom by Pete F.

More fortune cookie wisdom by Pete F.

Some people like fortune cookies, others baloney
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he’s also irrelevant. conservatives, by and large, don’t want nationalism.

conservatives want less federal control.

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If he’s irrelevant why are so many Trumplicans listening to him

Bannon this morning says the purpose of the Trump rally in AZ today is to pressure the AZ legis to decertify the 2020 Biden electors, then PA, WI, and GA will follow suit and make Biden an illegitimate president in the minds of swing voters heading into the 2022 elections.

You cannot interpret this as anything but a declaration of war on democracy. We are in the endgame. We can resurrect democracy or lose it forever.
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Some people like fortune cookies, others baloney
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Your fortune cookie wisdom is baloney.

If he’s irrelevant why are so many Trumplicans listening to him

Bannon this morning says the purpose of the Trump rally in AZ today is to pressure the AZ legis to decertify the 2020 Biden electors, then PA, WI, and GA will follow suit and make Biden an illegitimate president in the minds of swing voters heading into the 2022 elections.

You cannot interpret this as anything but a declaration of war on democracy. We are in the endgame. We can resurrect democracy or lose it forever.
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Legitimate pressure is not a war on democracy. The "plan," according to the planners, was within the bounds of the Constitution, therefore legitimate.

Your fortune cookie wisdom is baloney.

As an expert in baloney, You would know
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Legitimate pressure is not a war on democracy. The "plan," according to the planners, was within the bounds of the Constitution, therefore legitimate.

So the big lie is legitimate pressure, according to the planners and you.
Just the thing someone who kept Mein Kampf on his nightstand would claim.
Because as long as you achieve your goal the means are justifiable.
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As an expert in baloney, You would know
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You're admitting that I know that your stuff is baloney?

So the big lie is legitimate pressure, according to the planners and you.
Just the thing someone who kept Mein Kampf on his nightstand would claim.
Because as long as you achieve your goal the means are justifiable.
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Never read Mein Kampf. Don't remember ever actually seeing a copy of it. No doubt, Bannon, et. al., believe that the big lie is the accusation that they're lying.

And I'm not making a claim either way. I don't positively know.

Never read Mein Kampf. Don't remember ever actually seeing a copy of it. No doubt, Bannon, et. al., believe that the big lie is the accusation that they're lying.

Since they have never succeeded in any court action, are you claiming that people should just believe them based on…….
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Since they have never succeeded in any court action, are you claiming that people should just believe them based on…….
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I haven't read their plan in depth. Just the sketchy bits in interviews. From my limited understanding, it wasn't based on nor relied on court decisions. And it is totally mute now because the election was certified and had to be carried out before certification. And, because the Court refused to hear arguments on the validity of the election, most of the evidence compiled by pro-Trumpers has not been thoroughly examined and discussed in corporate media, so has basically been hidden from public scrutiny, and has been referred to as baseless conspiracy in any mention of it.

So, in that respect, there is nothing solid for me to believe or disbelieve.

What I do believe is that, after the Robert Mueller investigation, I lost any trust I had in our security agencies. The Mantra was always that Trump was causing us to lose confidence in them. But, for me, it was their own actions that destroyed my confidence in them. So I find myself believing that they are more of a problem than the groups they profile and accuse. And the Democrats duplicity in their alliance with them in calling for the special counsel investigation and the lies they told to support it, which even more than just my disagreement with their policies, destroyed what confidence I had in the Democrats being honorable in their political opposition.

Like most, I had always considered politics to be dirty. But that investigation took the cake. It was absolutely filthy. And it has not only caused me to lose confidence in the agencies involved, but totally become sick of the whole administrative state including most of its other agencies that I had already was beginning to see as a threat to our constitutional system.

So I don't "just believe them" (Bannon et. al.), I tend to disbelieve the security and intel agencies and the entire administrative state until it is proven to be right--which is a tall order to do for me since they have such a powerful influence, even grip, on the channels that inform us. Which makes those channels of communication as suspect for me as are the administrative and security agencies which they are in bed with.

For people like me, they have lost all credibility. And it is their doing, not Trump's, that is the cause. And the way you have lied and resorted to rhetorical trickery in defense of their treachery, has not helped in restoring any of my faith in them. Rather, it has done the opposite.

Post-inaugural “decertification” of electoral votes to “delegitimate” an incumbent president isn’t a thing. The only approximation is something called “seditious conspiracy,” a federal crime whose twin is treason.
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Post-inaugural “decertification” of electoral votes to

“delegitimate”

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I don't think this is a word...

I don't think this is a word...

You’re wrong
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You’re wrong
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I figured, like brandon, you could use a win....hope that helps...you're welcome:)

Biden walked into the Oval Office to a desk OVERFLOWING with massive problems left by his predecessor. Contrary to what MSM tells you he has accomplished an amazing amount of work on behalf of the people in 1 year. There’s lot left to do, give him time & be amazed at what he does
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Biden walked into the Oval Office to a desk OVERFLOWING with massive problems left by his predecessor. Contrary to what MSM tells you he has accomplished an amazing amount of work on behalf of the people in 1 year. There’s lot left to do, give him time & be amazed at what he does
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I don't think Jen Pasaki would even go that far...

didn't get the memo

"A group of Democratic senators say they have “grave concerns” about the Biden administration’s response to COVID-19 and have asked the White House’s pandemic point man to explain ongoing test shortages and related issues.

In a Thursday letter to COVID-19 Response Coordinator Jeffrey Zients, Sens. Jacky Rosen (D-Nev.), Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.), Joe Manchin (D-WV), Jon Ossoff (D-Ga.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) asked point-blank “why the Administration failed to take more significant steps earlier to increase access to at-home tests.”

Biden walked into the Oval Office to a desk OVERFLOWING with massive problems left by his predecessor. Contrary to what MSM tells you he has accomplished an amazing amount of work on behalf of the people in 1 year. There’s lot left to do, give him time & be amazed at what he does
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ok, your brain broke.

the mainstream media is out to get Biden? that’s your story?

he helped get infastructure passed, and the stock market is doing great, and he took the vaccine infastructure he inherited, and he expanded that well. what are his other amazing accomplishments, that he actually helped pull off?

why are his poll numbers where they are?
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Poll numbers better than the guy he beat
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6.4 million jobs, GDP growth 5+%, wages up 4.7%, stock market +25% year-over-year, 207 million vaccinated, nearly all schools open and in person. How many people had that on their 2021 Bingo card? Good year
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Poll numbers better than the guy he beat
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so low 30s are a good place to be!
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One thing I’m glad about— the people who think the pandemic should focus on paying people not to get vaccinated aren’t in charge.

From DeSantis to Rand Paul, nearly daily there’s a reminder of the difference between the first year of the pandemic and now.
We have many challenges facing us in responding to the pandemic. But the contrast in how Biden is responding ,when I see the people who want the pandemic to be over but will only act to elongate it lead, I’m only grateful they’re not in charge.
It is true we don’t have enough tests to handle the crush of new cases per day.

But while Joe Biden runs towards the problem w a billion free tests, a new testing czar & 8 free tests/person/month, Roger Marshall thinks the priority should be Tony Fauci’s financial statements.
In a hearing over the crisis we are all in, a Kansas Senator who can’t conduct a Google search honed in on what Americans are really worried about.

No, not schools or hospitals but a quite modest 81 year old career civil servant.
I wonder what planet he’s on. But I don’t wonder what political party he’s in.

Because we now just shrug our shoulders when we see Republican governors take steps to elongate the pandemic.

In the last few months, as we’ve been battling omicron…
Ron DeSantis has offered#^&CASH BONUSES#^&to unvaccinated police officers who quit or are fired from police forces in other states.

Unvaccinated adults are nearly 6x more likely to test positive for Covid & 14x more likely to die from the virus.
DeSantis & OK Gov Stitt have decided to take a stand—not against COVID, but against booster shots. When asked why:

“I’ve done the normal shot, and that … is people’s individual decision about what they want to do.” -Desantis

“I’m perfectly healthy.”#^&-Stitt

PS Booster shots can cut in half your chance of being hospitalized according to some studies.

PPS When thee guy who refused to admit the existence of or take responsibility for the pandemic calls you gutless, look at yourself.
Florida, Iowa, Kansas, Arkansas and Tennessee have changed their unemployment insurance rules to allow you to receive benefits if you quit your job because you didn’t want to get vaccinated.

They don’t believe in public programs. Except for the unvaccinated.
24 state AGs even filed lawsuits to prevent the federal government from requiring workplaces to be safe. 20 sued to prevent hospitals from requiring staff to be vaccinated.

Just think if this aggression & creative energy were funneled into fighting the virus & saving lives.
PS on that one. The Supreme Court ruled today. And even a highly conservative Supreme Court couldn’t support these states on one of their arguments (the health care one). Wrongly, but unsurprisingly, they won’t allow workplaces to be required to be kept safe.
26 states#^&(wonder if there’s a connection) passed laws that weaken public health protections.

AK banned mask requirements
ID now allows county commissioners to veto public health orders.
KS and TN have taken basic duties from public health officials
9 states passed laws requiring exemptions from vaccine mandates or banned companies from requiring vaccines.

These are the same people telling us they demand the pandemic new over so we can return to normal. Um hmm.
Republican members of Congress have filed#^&at least 20 bills#^&to block or roll back vaccine requirements.#^&
8 Republican governors including Abbott of Texas and DeSantis of Florida have banned mask requirements in schools.

To be clear masks are the ONLY thing, including ventilation, preventing COVID from spreading in schools. In fact …
Schools with mask requirements were 3.5 times less likely to have a coronavirus outbreak during the Delta based on a study in Arizona.
I have spent time w President Biden on this pandemic. He doesn’t think he’s gotten everything right. He’s not all that concerned with how he’s perceived at any particular moment. But he cares deeply about every American life & what we can do to help save it.
The vaccination program the Trump Administration started & he and his team rolled out have saved many American lives.

Biden’s acceleration of the vaccines in the early part of 2021 saved close to 300,000 lives.
During all this, Biden has had his head down. He’s opened 90,000 free vaccination sites and 20,000 free testing sites. He’s tripled the stockpile of masks and sent thousands of medical personnel to hospitals. 20 million anti-virals.
We have to judge our leaders by what they deliver, by their honesty, by how hard they work for us.

But, by God, when I stop and compare where we are to the alternative, I actually shudder.
Let’s have high expectations of our leaders. If we hold them accountable, they should listen and improve.

But lets also hold accountable all the elected leaders that have joined the fight on the side of the virus.
I won’t forget who showed up & who laid down in the middle of the hardest times.
“Andy Slavitt”
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6.4 million jobs, GDP growth 5+%, wages up 4.7%, stock market +25% year-over-year, 207 million vaccinated, nearly all schools open and in person. How many people had that on their 2021 Bingo card? Good year
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he’s done a good job bringing jobs back, true.

wages up, inflation is up more. what does that mean for average americans, exactly?

biden opened up the schools? he did that? Not the virus naturally becoming less severe?

did you give trump credit for jobs, stock market, wages up, and creating the vaccine infastructure?

what are you afraid would
happen, if you were honest for a moment?

a record number of
americans said they were better off after four years of trump. i’ll be interested to see how biden does in that poll.

your fused to give trump credit for many of the same exact accomplishments. you’re saying it only matters when democrats oversee good stock market and low unemployment? i’d like to hear you explain that. when trump set stock
market records, you said that was bad because it only helps the wealthy.
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As I have always said

Trump already gives himself far more credit than he deserves, so I don’t feel compelled to encourage him.

But you have the first amendment right to encourage the malignant narcissist.

Yesterday Trump gathered a large crowd of the unvaxed and maskless into a close space to tell them Joe Biden was really blowing it on his handling of covid.

Can't even make this #^&#^&#^&#^& up
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As I have always said

Trump already gives himself far more credit than he deserves, so I don’t feel compelled to encourage him.

But you have the first amendment right to encourage the malignant narcissist.

Yesterday Trump gathered a large crowd of the unvaxed and maskless into a close space to tell them Joe Biden was really blowing it on his handling of covid.

Can't even make this #^&#^&#^&#^& up
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if you have trump credit for his accomplishments, you’d be encouraging his narcissism?

yes, Trump looks to you all the time to get his cues. you are single handedly keeping his arrogance in check. that’s how it works!

if trumps event doesn’t become a superspreader event, will you say so? or would you be afraid of how trump would respond to your admission? because we’re all
sure he’s keeping close tabs on you.
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if you have trump credit for his accomplishments, you’d be encouraging his narcissism?

yes, Trump looks to you all the time to get his cues. you are single handedly keeping his arrogance in check. that’s how it works!

if trumps event doesn’t become a superspreader event, will you say so? or would you be afraid of how trump would respond to your admission? because we’re all
sure he’s keeping close tabs on you.
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Well you’re certainly consistently concerned about my opinion of your orange god and apparently the rest of “we” are also.
Are there actually other concerned people or just the voices in your head🤷#^&♂️
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Well you’re certainly consistently concerned about my opinion of your orange god and apparently the rest of “we” are also.
Are there actually other concerned people or just the voices in your head🤷#^&♂️
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nobody cares about anyone else’s opinions here. but it’s fun to point out your hypocrisy, and watch you try to spin it.
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nobody cares about anyone else’s opinions here. but it’s fun to point out your hypocrisy, and watch you try to spin it.
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Just remember

One year ago today The impeachment trial of Donald Trump opened in the Senate.

Trump will forever be remembered as the only president who got impeached twice.
Lost the House, Senate and the Presidency and spent the rest of his life claiming he won.
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Just remember

One year ago today The impeachment trial of Donald Trump opened in the Senate.

Trump will forever be remembered as the only president who got impeached twice.
Lost the House, Senate and the Presidency and spent the rest of his life claiming he won.
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i don’t disagree with any of that pete.

now, you remember. you give biden credit for stock market and jobs. you refuse to give trump credit for the same accomplishments.

how are the democrats doing in elections since Biden took office? Ask VA governor McAuliffe.

when obama left, he led to trump and republican majorities in the senate and house. after 8 years of obama, democrats held fewer elected offices than at any time
since Civil War reconstruction. not once did you blame obama. not once.

Trump, unfortunately, was the only human being on the planet who could have beaten Hilary in 2016. nobody else could have done it. then he was maybe the only human being who could’ve gotten clobbered by Biden. But Biden may very well lead to an historical
drubbing for dems in november. any honest person ( which excludes you) would say it looks like that’s coming.

4 years of trump was far preferable for conservatives, than 8 years of Hilary. Just what he did to SCOTUS alone was a miracle for conservatives compared to what Hilary would have done.

you’re acting like the gop has been routed. the senate is tied, and the dems have, what, a 4 seat advantage in the house? that’s nothing. and the gop has a majority of governorships and state legislatures.

If the gop has been kicked to the curb as thoroughly as you claim, why can’t the democrats pass build back better? or voting rights?

hispanics seem to be shifting to the rightt a little. not a good sign for democrats.
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Boy, the voices in your head must be strong today.

Elect one Black President and the White Patriarchy prolapses and destroys the whole damn country.
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Boy, the voices in your head must be strong today.

Elect one Black President and the White Patriarchy prolapses and destroys the whole damn country.
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so everyone who voted republican after 8 years of obama, is a racist. gotcha.

stick with that message pete. good for tent building.

ruined the country? sorry america liked trumps policies. generationally low unemployment, stock market records, no questionable wars, jihadists routed. oh my god the horror.

58% of americans, i think, told Gallup they were better off after 4 years of trump. that’s a record high in that poll, am all time record.

boy that must get under your skin.


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Sure Jim, just like Virginia

Youngkin ran on letting people locally decide how their schools are run, and on week one he's strongarming a school district to try to kill its mask mandate.

This clown is everything we warned he would be.

Governor Youngkin on Arlington school system saying it will require masks, despite Youngkin’s order stating that schools can’t do that. He threatened to use state resources to force schools to comply - but we still don’t know what that means exactly.
Gonna call in the State Guard, line them up and rip their masks off?
Or reeducation for the education elites and the citizens who would dare oppose his orders?
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Sure Jim, just like Virginia

Youngkin ran on letting people locally decide how their schools are run, and on week one he's strongarming a school district to try to kill its mask mandate.

This clown is everything we warned he would be.

Governor Youngkin on Arlington school system saying it will require masks, despite Youngkin’s order stating that schools can’t do that. He threatened to use state resources to force schools to comply - but we still don’t know what that means exactly.
Gonna call in the State Guard, line them up and rip their masks off?
Or reeducation for the education elites and the citizens who would dare oppose his orders?
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“letting people
decide locally how schools are run.”

he ran on letting people ( who pay for the schools) have a say. MacAluffe said they shouldn’t have a say. they told him to go
kick rocks.

you make me really, really look forward to november.
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AP "For now, virtually none of the groups that fueled Biden’s 2020 victory are happy."

latest poll today: Biden gets 83% job approval from Dems

it’s just easier to make stuff up, I guess

comical: after 5 yr of worshipful Trump Voter stories, the only Biden Voter stories we get are abt how they don’t like him. (spoiler: they do)

And aside from Biden's 83% Dem. approval, people aren't happy because the REPUBLICANS + Manchin/Sinema are blocking everything.
And we're in year 3 of a pandemic where it's mostly REPUBLICANS who refuse masking/vaxxing thus prolonging this hell. It's not Biden we're angry with.
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AP "For now, virtually none of the groups that fueled Biden’s 2020 victory are happy."

latest poll today: Biden gets 83% job approval from Dems

it’s just easier to make stuff up, I guess



comical: after 5 yr of worshipful Trump Voter stories, the only Biden Voter stories we get are abt how they don’t like him. (spoiler: they do)

And aside from Biden's 83% Dem. approval, people aren't happy because the REPUBLICANS + Manchin/Sinema are blocking everything.
And we're in year 3 of a pandemic where it's mostly REPUBLICANS who refuse masking/vaxxing thus prolonging this hell. It's not Biden we're angry with.
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“it’s just easier to make stuff up”

oh, i’m making it up that the pills look bad for the. idea and the democrats.

You caught me!

“Biden at 83% approval from democrats…”

how come you don’t say where he’s at with independents?

answer - you simply cannot admit anything that doesn’t help your side. must be exhausting at any time, especially so these days.


did anyone ask you how Biden is polling with democrats? if only democrats were allowed to vote, his polling among democrats would
matter. I’d wager Terry McAuliffe was polling great among democrats too. how’d that work out for him?



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Biden 83%



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^^^^^Google this and see what comes up....

^^^^^Google this and see what comes up....

83% cognitive decline?
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“letting people
decide locally how schools are run.”

he ran on letting people ( who pay for the schools) have a say. MacAluffe said they shouldn’t have a say. they told him to go
kick rocks.

you make me really, really look forward to november.
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Want to talk about hypocrisy

Every reporter that interviews GlennYoungkin needs to ask him his position on Georgetown Prep’s mandatory mask and vaccine mandates since that’s where his kids go in DC and he’s never said a peep about it. He’s cool with our kids getting sick for his MAGA points…just not his.
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