Virginia's new Republican governor, who banned critical race theory in schools, is launching a tip line for parents to report their kids' teachers:btu:


He said parents can report public-school teachers if they believe they're "behaving objectionably."


Gotto love the GOP facts need not apply all you need is a feeling :wavey:

Youngkin banned the teaching of "inherently divisive concepts" on his first day in office. The order didn't define "divisive concepts, amazing

Virginia's new Republican governor, who banned critical race theory in schools, is launching a tip line for parents to report their kids' teachers:btu:


He said parents can report public-school teachers if they believe they're "behaving objectionably."


Gotto love the GOP facts need not apply all you need is a feeling :wavey:

Youngkin banned the teaching of "inherently divisive concepts" on his first day in office. The order didn't define "divisive concepts, amazing

he ran on this issue, he won, now he delivered. The parents there don’t especially care if it makes you cry.

Teachers are public servants. They do what the public wants, or they seek fulfillment elsewhere. There’s nothing wrong with that. Common sense, actually.

As Obama liked to say, elections have consequences.
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Fahrenheit 451

Not really
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snowflakes.

Fahrenheit 451

Exactly. If they feel upset, cry and a book will be banned.

No it won't, and you actually may want to read the book.
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Exactly. If they feel upset, cry and a book will be banned.

you’re saying it’s the right engaging in censorship, not the left? seriously?

It’s conservatives tearing down statues, banning liberals from big tech social media, banning To Kill A Mockingbird? It’s the GOP embracing cancel
culture?

the state has rules. public servants have to obey the rules. there’s nothing new about parents expressing concern if they don’t like what they see in the classroom.

i taught public middle school, it never occurred to
me to attack parents for being involved enough to express concern.

sure it can go to far. but the existence of a way for parents to express concerns, is t any kind of red flag, certainly to any good teacher who’s not determined to indoctrinate his students
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No it won't, and you actually may want to read the book.
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i’m theory, you’re right and they’re way off.

however, if we ban books from public schools which show illustrations of two boys blowing each other at the same
time, i’m not going to lose any sleep.
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you’re saying it’s the right engaging in censorship, not the left? seriously?

It’s conservatives tearing down statues, banning liberals from big tech social media, banning To Kill A Mockingbird? It’s the GOP embracing cancel
culture?

the state has rules. public servants have to obey the rules. there’s nothing new about parents expressing concern if they don’t like what they see in the classroom.

i taught public middle school, it never occurred to
me to attack parents for being involved enough to express concern.

sure it can go to far. but the existence of a way for parents to express concerns, is t any kind of red flag, certainly to any good teacher who’s not determined to indoctrinate his students
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Glad you finally have put to paper that you support the statues of confederate idols

Colin K would say he got canc.

There’s a bill advancing in the Florida Senate declaring that an individual “should not be made to feel discomfort, guilt, anguish or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.

Poor little snowflakes.

Glad you finally have put to paper that you support the statues of confederate idols

Colin K would say he got canc.

There’s a bill advancing in the Florida Senate declaring that an individual “should not be made to feel discomfort, guilt, anguish or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.

Poor little snowflakes.

Teddy Roosevelt’s gets torn down in NYC, where they have a statue of George Floyd.

defend that.
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Colin K would say he got canc
.

not for being black, not for embracing liberalism. For bashing the country in a dishonest way, in a way that might insult the leagues customers.

if i owned a business, am i required to employ someone ( at great cost, by the way) who goes out of his way to give the finger to half my customers?

i don’t have a huge problem taking down statues of specific southern, pro slavery insurrectionists.

But the left has gone way further than that. George Washington, Teddy Roosevelt? Come on.
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Evolution - wah, sniff, sniff. I'm going to tell the governor on you it hurt my feelings. Snowflakes

Defend that!

Evolution - wah, sniff, sniff. I'm going to tell the governor on you

Defend that!

i won’t defend that, but is that happening?

but, i have no problem alerting the state if white kids are told their whiteness is any kind of liability or scarlet letter because if something that happened a long time ago. or if boys are told their
masculinity is bad.

apples and oranges

if a teacher gets in trouble for teaching evolution, i’m on your side.
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Evolution is taught in schools just as how we got involved in Iraq war. Discussing if humans are impacting climate change, Vaccines. Anyone can complain about anything they want.

Evolution is taught in schools just as how we got involved in Iraq war. Discussing if humans are impacting climate change, Vaccines. Anyone can complain about anything they want.

complaining about teaching evolution is one thing.

complaining that a child is taught that their skin color bestows them with guilt, is something very very different. liberals are free to believe that all they want obviously, but it doesn’t belong in a public school.

anyone can complain today paul, it’s a free country. this is just giving parents a common, specific route to complain.

of course democrats want to flag those who do, as domestic terrorists.
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There’s a bill advancing in the Florida Senate declaring that an individual “should not be made to feel discomfort, guilt, anguish or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race.



does this apply to all races?

complaining about teaching evolution is one thing.

complaining that a child is taught that their skin color bestows them with guilt, is something very very different. liberals are free to believe that all they want obviously, but it doesn’t belong in a public school.

anyone can complain today paul, it’s a free country. this is just giving parents a common, specific route to complain.

of course democrats want to flag those who do, as domestic terrorists.
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You referring to the Republicans who called for their elected representative to kneel to the cross.
Harassing a person who’s willing to serve his country both in the armed services and as a representative of the people?
Only Christians may apply?
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You referring to the Republicans who called for their elected representative to kneel to the cross.
Harassing a person who’s willing to serve his country both in the armed services and as a representative of the people?
Only Christians may apply?
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pete speaking in tongues.....

pete speaking in tongues.....

pure gibberish.
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What’s old is new, it’s the new moral majority, teach only what doesn’t make us and little Johnny or Susie uncomfortable.

What’s old is new, it’s the new moral majority, teach only what doesn’t make us and little Johnny or Susie uncomfortable.

I've forgotten, do leftists ever complain about things, thoughts or ideas that make them "uncomfortable"? Isn't that what they invented safe spaces for? :hihi:

What’s old is new, it’s the new moral majority, teach only what doesn’t make us and little Johnny or Susie uncomfortable.

your side took teddy roosevelt’s statue down. those were adults who couldn’t handle it. adults by age that is.

imagine the nerve of parents to want their teachers, whom they pay, to not shame their kids for their skin color. those parents are obviously terrorists.

we can’t all be as thick skinned as the cancel culture advocates.
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I've forgotten, do leftists ever complain about things, thoughts or ideas that make them "uncomfortable"? Isn't that what they invented safe spaces for? :hihi:

leftists are all for free speech, they never censor anyone. never ever.

thumb s#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g, safe space seeking, snowflakes, are now lecturing the rest of us about sticks and stones and names will
never hurt me.
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pure gibberish.
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When crowds show up at Jewish representatives houses with signs saying "Stand for the flag, kneel for the cross," you might want to read up on antisemitism and what it spawned.

I can't overemphasize that most Germans were in disbelief that the Nazis were able to assume power and completely manipulate the institutions of law and education.

They were able to do this by breaking all the established norms for acceptable behavior, and getting away with it
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I can't overemphasize that most Germans were in disbelief that the Nazis were able to assume power and completely manipulate the institutions of law and education.

They were able to do this by breaking all the established norms for acceptable behavior, and getting away with it


This sounds a lot like how Progressives have been able break all our established norms in education, marriage, sex, gender, limited government, taxation, American exceptionalism, respect for the flag, scope and power of the Federal Government . . . and getting away with it.

This sounds a lot like how Progressives have been able break all our established norms in education, marriage, sex, gender, limited government, taxation, American exceptionalism, respect for the flag, scope and power of the Federal Government . . . and getting away with it.

exactly....

it's like how leftists view a governor repealing mandates or banning mandates as "authoritarian" but the governor instituting those mandates even if they are unconstitutional, unnecessary or unpopular is not "authoritarian"

if you opposes leftist authoritarianism...that makes you an authoritarian and probably a bad person that needs to be punished

you have to stand on your head to think like a leftist....

I can't overemphasize that most Germans were in disbelief that the Nazis were able to assume power and completely manipulate the institutions of law and education.

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I bet they instituted lots of mandates and requirements, kept the public constantly in fear and told that they were motivated by science and superior intellect and better education, probably used relentless propaganda and censorship with the help of media and industry, threatened the livelihoods of those who opposed their directives and isolated groups who were not compliant and targeted the children for reeducation, training them to think the right way about things, of course, they had lots of help from those that fell in line and mindlessly regurgitated the propaganda that the state and scientists were pushing

Tennessee school board recently voted to ban Art Spiegelman's “Maus,”

The 10-member board in McMinn County chose to remove “Maus” from its eighth-grade language arts curriculum, citing its profanity and nudity.

But don’t put a trans person in an adult prison and the usual suspects have a meltdown

But snitch lines for accountability for teachers is fine they’re the enemy indoctrinating conservatives youth

But don’t you dare question that heroic Cop who gunned down that unarmed person
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But don’t you dare question that heroic Cop who gunned down that unarmed person

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this is probably poor, "bidenesque" timing to roll this out :rollem:

But snitch lines for accountability for teachers is fine they’re the enemy indoctrinating conservatives youth

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I'm ok with holding teachers and school administrators accountable at this point...if you've ever dealt with them you'd know that lack of accountability among teachers and administrators is a serious issue...they think of themselves, in many cases, as their own little kingdoms

if they aren't doing anything wrong they shouldn't have anything to worry about?..right? that's what were always told in other areas

The 10-member board in McMinn County chose to remove “Maus” from its eighth-grade language arts curriculum, citing its profanity and nudity.


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10-0 vote....sounds like everyone agreed

btw...I'm OK with a tip line for police acting badly....

if they aren't doing anything wrong they shouldn't have anything to worry about?..right? that's what were always told in other areas

this is obviously true. same
with teachers having no reason to oppose their lessons being available for parents ( the paying customer) to see.
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btw...I'm OK with a tip line for police acting badly....

every town has a way for people
to complain about police.
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But snitch lines for accountability for teachers is fine they’re the enemy indoctrinating conservatives youth


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McCarthy wishes he was still alive and a Senator as he would be having a field day.

McCarthy wishes he was still alive and a Senator as he would be having a field day.

you’re opposed to parents having the ability to express concern about what’s being taught by teachers they pay for?

you’re all saying teachers should have zero accountability?
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McCarthy wishes he was still alive and a Senator as he would be having a field day.

McCarty hurt people who weren’t doing anything wrong.

why do you assume that teachers ( who have a pretty good union last time i checked) would be punished if parents made baseless accusations?

tenured teachers are almost impossible to fire.

looks like your side is upset that light is finally being shed in all this.
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McCarthy wishes he was still alive and a Senator as he would be having a field day.

did you think that up yourself or see it somewhere?

More whining:

A parent in Texas called for a children's biography about former First Lady Michelle Obama to be pulled from school libraries because they viewed it as unfair to former President Donald Trump.

The Katy, Texas, parent took issue with a book titled "Michelle Obama: Political Icon" by Heather E. Schwartz, claiming it "unfairly" depicted former President Donald Trump "as a bully," according to NBC News, which on Wednesday published a list of 50 books that parents in Texas have asked schools to remove.

The book was reviewed and allowed to stay at the library. How many complaints like this will be made in the future?

Gee, 335,000,000 people in this country and someone did something stupid, what are the odds.

The woman is a moron, the book didn't get removed, and it should have been a non-story. Moving right along.

Gee, 335,000,000 people in this country and someone did something stupid, what are the odds.

The woman is a moron, the book didn't get removed, and it should have been a non-story. Moving right along. This type of whining is going to be more and more frequent. Snowflakes
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Whatever floats your boat, Paul. :rolleyes:

More R cancelations:

Members of the Republican National Committee are pushing forward with a resolution to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger,

The measure rebukes Cheney and Kinzinger for their involvement on the Jan. 6 select committee investigating Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the result of the 2020 election,

More R cancelations:

Members of the Republican National Committee are pushing forward with a resolution to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger,

The measure rebukes Cheney and Kinzinger for their involvement on the Jan. 6 select committee investigating Donald Trump’s effort to overturn the result of the 2020 election,

it's not really a cancellation....

it's not really a cancellation....

The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it.

GOP voters are ok with whatever happens. They'll adjust their "beliefs" accordingly.

Just watch

The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it.

GOP voters are ok with whatever happens. They'll adjust their "beliefs" accordingly.

Just watch

Big government supposition Pete strikes again with powerful speculation . . . and backs it up with the condition that we need to just watch. And, of course, his authoritative (authoritarian) tone is convincing enough to prove that the supposed Republican official position is a priori wrong.

Outstanding propaganda . . . er . . . information.

The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it.

GOP voters are ok with whatever happens. They'll adjust their "beliefs" accordingly.

Just watch

Big government supposition Pete strikes again with powerful speculation . . . and backs it up with the condition that we need to just watch. And, of course, his authoritative (authoritarian) tone is convincing enough to prove that the supposed Republican official position is a priori wrong.

Outstanding propaganda . . . er . . . information.

You prove my point

There is no speculation, this is a new low for the RNC. Beating cops is “legitimate political discourse”? Sad thing is they know it isn’t true but they put out the hostage tape for the 2x impeached sore loser to get $$.

How little faith they have in conservative winning issues.

More Canc:

Missouri’s top health official, a Republican who opposes mask and vaccine mandates but spoke approvingly of the Covid vaccine, was supposed to have been confirmed by State Senate by Friday.

Instead, conservative state legislators stonewalled the process earlier this week and Donald Kauerauf resigned on Tuesday, becoming the latest public health leader to be forced from office, as the politicized fight about masks, mandates and pandemic response rages on.

More Canc:

Missouri’s top health official, a Republican who opposes mask and vaccine mandates but spoke approvingly of the Covid vaccine, was supposed to have been confirmed by State Senate by Friday.

Instead, conservative state legislators stonewalled the process earlier this week and Donald Kauerauf resigned on Tuesday, becoming the latest public health leader to be forced from office, as the politicized fight about masks, mandates and pandemic response rages on.

I guess you won't be moving to Missouri...

You prove my point

There is no speculation, this is a new low for the RNC. Beating cops is “legitimate political discourse”? Sad thing is they know it isn’t true but they put out the hostage tape for the 2x impeached sore loser to get $$.

How little faith they have in conservative winning issues.

It's hard to tell what your point was since you painted with such an all encompassing brush. "The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it."

McDaniel didn't say the the only people who deserve punishment are Cheney and Kinzinger. Neither did she say that beating cops is legitimate political discourse.

She didn't say that everything that happened on Jan6 was legitimate political discourse. Excluding the property damage and any physical assaults that were not defense or retaliation against physical force imposed on them, the rest, the majority of protesters did participate in legitimate political discourse.

Some got caught up in misdemeanors such as trespassing. But, at least to some of us, there seems to be an intentionally abusive overreaction to what occurred, especially against the majority who were not actually seditious or conspiratorial in intent. Languishing for months in crappy imprisonment while waiting for indeterminately scheduled trials is an abuse of civil rights in the cases of even the most egregious crimes and certainly more so in cases of minor ones.

McDaniel supported what she considered the original purpose of the Jan6 congressional investigation including any legitimate punishment for actual serious crimes. She considers that what is actually happening has gone well beyond that and has become politically motivated.

Many of us tend to agree with her.

So, what are the conservative winning issues that you have faith in?

More Canc:

Missouri’s top health official, a Republican who opposes mask and vaccine mandates but spoke approvingly of the Covid vaccine, was supposed to have been confirmed by State Senate by Friday.

Instead, conservative state legislators stonewalled the process earlier this week and Donald Kauerauf resigned on Tuesday, becoming the latest public health leader to be forced from office, as the politicized fight about masks, mandates and pandemic response rages on.

This week, Alexandra Ocasio Cortez told Senator Schumer to "make life as difficult as possible" for Senators Manchin and Sinema. Is that your idea of inclusion, tolerance, and embracing diversity of opinions?

I guess you're more concerned about the Missouri state government, than about the US Senate. Either that, or you only care when Republicans do it.

This week, Alexandra Ocasio Cortez told Senator Schumer to "make life as difficult as possible" for Senators Manchin and Sinema. Is that your idea of inclusion, tolerance, and embracing diversity of opinions?

I guess you're more concerned about the Missouri state government, than about the US Senate. Either that, or you only care when Republicans do it. looks to me that the Republican National Committee are trying to cancel Cheney and kinzinger.
But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others? Isn't that one of those things you howl at the moon about?
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It's hard to tell what your point was since you painted with such an all encompassing brush. "The official position of the Republican Party will be that January 6 was "legitimate political discourse" and that the only people who deserve punishment are the two Republicans who opposed it."

McDaniel didn't say the the only people who deserve punishment are Cheney and Kinzinger. Neither did she say that beating cops is legitimate political discourse.

She didn't say that everything that happened on Jan6 was legitimate political discourse. Excluding the property damage and any physical assaults that were not defense or retaliation against physical force imposed on them, the rest, the majority of protesters did participate in legitimate political discourse.

Some got caught up in misdemeanors such as trespassing. But, at least to some of us, there seems to be an intentionally abusive overreaction to what occurred, especially against the majority who were not actually seditious or conspiratorial in intent. Languishing for months in crappy imprisonment while waiting for indeterminately scheduled trials is an abuse of civil rights in the cases of even the most egregious crimes and certainly more so in cases of minor ones.

McDaniel supported what she considered the original purpose of the Jan6 congressional investigation including any legitimate punishment for actual serious crimes. She considers that what is actually happening has gone well beyond that and has become politically motivated.

Many of us tend to agree with her.

So, what are the conservative winning issues that you have faith in?
Everything Trump Touchs Dies



Orwell said, “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

The GOP is censuring Cheney and Kinzinger for one reason: They’re telling the truth about the party and Donald Trump's attempt to overturn an American election. And the GOP wants to shut them up.

To be clear, apparently Ronna's not calling the actual violent attack on the U.S. Capitol "legitimate political discourse" — she's just calling the preceding conspiracy to overturn the election, seize voting machines and execute a coup "legitimate political discourse."

As far as just tourists caught up in misdemeanors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0

looks to me that the Republican National Committee are trying to cancel Cheney and kinzinger.
But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others? Isn't that one of those things you howl at the moon about?
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So the RNC is supposed to support every Republican forever?

"But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others?"

Can you point to where anyone here, said Republicans never do that? But we aren't obsessed with perfect conformity. The GOP had a little civil war recently, it's over, and the Liz Cheney/ Josh Bolton types lost. They lost resoundingly.

The Democrats civil war is between the moderates (very few left) and the progressives, and that's nowhere near over. But that's not a winning issue for you, so you pretend it doesn't exist.

So the RNC is supposed to support every Republican forever?

"But I thought it was only Democrats who cancel others?"

Can you point to where anyone here, said Republicans never do that? But we aren't obsessed with perfect conformity. The GOP had a little civil war recently, it's over, and the Liz Cheney/ Josh Bolton types lost. They lost resoundingly.

The Democrats civil war is between the moderates (very few left) and the progressives, and that's nowhere near over. But that's not a winning issue for you, so you pretend it doesn't exist.
There's no Civil War amongst the Democrats. They're having legitimate disagreements. The DNC is not trying to kick people out and censure them like the RNC is at the national level. If you don't like the post I guess you could just ignore it maybe go start another thread about some democrat not wearing a mask .
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They chose to join Nancy Pelosi in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens who engaged in legitimate political discourse that had nothing to do with violence at the Capitol. That's why Republican National Committee members and myself overwhelmingly support this resolution."


This is the newest republican and the far right mantra

you see it with Masks you See it with with school board protest and the DOJ you see it with Trump and those arrested after Jan 6th and Now with the RNC
They are petrified of Trump and their fring base .


"The leaders of the Republican Party have made themselves willing hostages to a man who admits he tried to overturn a presidential election and suggests he would pardon Jan. 6 defendants, some of whom have been charged with seditious conspiracy," Cheney tweeted

Ironic coming from one of the Most conservative women around who no is considered a Rino

There's no Civil War amongst the Democrats. They're having legitimate disagreements. The DNC is not trying to kick people out and censure them like the RNC is at the national level. If you don't like the post I guess you could just ignore it maybe go start another thread about some democrat not wearing a mask .
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no civil war. that’s why biden went to congress twice to beg them
to
pass infastructure, and twice they told him to go kick rocks, only passed it when they got annihilated in VA.

can’t pass build back better despite controlling everything.

the progressives are telling the moderates to join the gop, AOC is telling schumer to make their lives as miserable as possible.

totally legitimate!!
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Sounds like a good idea for another thread for you to start.
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Sounds like a good idea for another thread for you to start.
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lobbing baseless insults is easier than defending a losing proposition.
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There's no Civil War amongst the Democrats.

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right...they are more likely to slap fight...

right...they are more likely to slap fight...

don’t forget pinching.
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Probably a RINO
MIKE PENCE: “President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president."
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Probably a RINO
MIKE PENCE: “President Trump is wrong. I had no right to overturn the election. The presidency belongs to the American people, and the American people alone. And frankly, there is no idea more un-American than the notion that any one person could choose the American president."
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i think he’s spot on, and the Federalist Society cheered him, didn’t they?
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So, what are the conservative winning issues that you have faith in? Everything Trump Touchs Dies

That's a conservative issue? A "winning issue"? So a "Conservative" candidate running on the "issue" that everything Trump Touches Dies, that the covid vaccines died, would be the ticket to getting elected?

Orwell said, “In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”

You should try Orwell's revolutionary act instead of telling lies, half truths, and deceptions in order to destroy Trump. You fit well with the time of deceit.

The GOP is censuring Cheney and Kinzinger for one reason: They’re telling the truth about the party and Donald Trump's attempt to overturn an American election. And the GOP wants to shut them up.

The GOP differs with you about the reasons to censure Cheney and Kinzinger. They explain it in their censure resolution, none of which comports with your accusation. And the censure will not "shut up" Cheney and Kinzinger as you claim. Here is the reasoning in their own words contrary to your deceitful insinuation about "the truth":

The primary mission of the Republican Party is to elect Republicans who support the United States Constitution and share our values;

The Biden Administration and Democrats in Congress have embarked on a systematic effort to replace liberty with socialism; eliminate border security in favor of lawless, open borders; create record inflation designed to steal the American dream from our children and
grandchildren; neuter our national defense and a peace through strength foreign policy; replace President Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed” with incompetence and illegal mandates; and destroy
America’s economy with the Green New Deal;

Winning back the majority in Congress, including the United States House of Representatives, in 2022 must be the primary goal of the House Republican Conference (“Conference”) and requires all Republicans working together to accomplish the same;

The Conference must design the strategy to stop the radical Biden agenda and retire Nancy Pelosi, tasks which require that all Republicans pull in the same direction;

The Conference must not be sabotaged by Representatives Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger who have demonstrated, with actions and words, that they support Democrat efforts to destroy President Trump more than they support winning back a Republican majority in 2022;

Representatives Cheney and Kinzinger have engaged in actions in their positions as members of the January 6th Select Committee not befitting Republican members of Congress, which include the Committee’s disregard for minority rights, traditional checks and balances, due process, and adherence to other precedent and rules of the U.S. House and which seem intent on advancing a political agenda to buoy the Democrat Party’s bleak prospects in the upcoming
midterm elections;

Congressional Republicans bear ultimate responsibility for their own success or failure and the RNC supports their efforts by denouncing those who deliberately jeopardize victory in November on which the future of our constitutional republic depends at this critical
moment in history;

Representatives Cheney and Kinzinger purport to be members of the Republican Party; and Representatives Cheney and Kinzinger are participating in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse, and they are both
utilizing their past professed political affiliation to mask Democrat abuse of prosecutorial power for partisan purposes


To be clear, apparently Ronna's not calling the actual violent attack on the U.S. Capitol "legitimate political discourse" — she's just calling the preceding conspiracy to overturn the election, seize voting machines and execute a coup "legitimate political discourse."

No, you're lying again. She referred specifically to the "Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse" on Jan6.

As far as just tourists caught up in misdemeanors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWJVMoe7OY0

Didn't watch the video, but you're overplaying the "tourists" bit. Very deceitful.

Didn't watch the video, but you're overplaying the "tourists" bit. Very deceitful.

Didn’t read the Mueller Report
Didn’t see Trump say that
Didn’t see any of the terrorists on J6
Nothing may disturb the narrative
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Didn’t read the Mueller Report

I read Mueller's conclusions. I've read that the Russiagate thing has been "debunked."

Didn’t see Trump say that

Say what?

Didn’t see any of the terrorists on J6

Wasn't there but saw videos of the rioters.

Nothing may disturb the narrative
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I try, but you're too steeped in it that nothing can disturb it. You even have to resort to repetitive lying, deceit, propaganda, supposition, conjecture, and ridiculous memes to support it.

You once asked me if I ever thought I could be wrong. I answered honestly that I always consider that I might be. I didn't return the favor by asking you the same question. It just doesn't seem plausible that someone who so easily, remorselessly, resorts to constant deceptions could possibly, if he had a functioning conscience, admit that he might be wrong.

I try, but you're too steeped in it that nothing can disturb it. You even have to resort to repetitive lying, deceit, propaganda, supposition, conjecture, and ridiculous memes to support it.

You once asked me if I ever thought I could be wrong. I answered honestly that I always consider that I might be. I didn't return the favor by asking you the same question. It just doesn't seem plausible that someone who so easily, remorselessly, resorts to constant deceptions could possibly, if he had a functioning conscience, admit that he might be wrong.

Social science will reveal that as the Republican Party became increasingly conservative, building a base with the religious right, it became the authoritarian party. That authoritarianism revealed itself to be undemocratic and un-American.
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Social science will reveal that as the Republican Party became increasingly conservative, building a base with the religious right, it became the authoritarian party. That authoritarianism revealed itself to be undemocratic and un-American.
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Sorry Mister Nostradamus, but the Republican Party has become increasingly Progressive and therefor catching up with the cloaked but still evident authoritarianism of Progressives. This current hiccup in the trend toward Republican Progressivism has been a small retreat back to the original conservatism of the earlier supporters of our founding principles--the conservation of individual liberty against the intrusive power of the Federal Government.

And the "religious right" is openly very much against the Progressive notion of an unimpeded central government. And very much for a return of federally stolen power back to the states--the original conservatism of power being held mostly by the people and their communities, not by some distant all powerful central government.

As for "social science" revealing who is authoritarian, you appear to view social science as some unified authority. Actually, social scientists are diverse in fields of study and in political persuasion which has historically changed from time to time. Economists certainly don't represent some monolithic view on what is authoritarian and which party represents that. Same for historians. Sociologists may not even think about the differences between the parties on authoritarian lines, rather, academics, and workers in the field such as social workers, may fundamentally view government as necessarily being authoritarian in order to impose what they consider necessary for social cohesion and what social experts recommend for their notion of social progress. Which is what you have admitted that you believe.

No doubt, the unabated Progressive pedagogy in our educational institutions will more and more tip the scale in the classrooms from any existing remnants of original conservatism in the social sciences toward authoritarian Progressivism in the minds and souls of future social scientists. And you may be making a distinction between "good" and "bad" authoritarianism. For you the emphasis on individual freedom at the expense of government power to do what you think is good is a bad sort of authoritarianism--the authority of the selfish individual eclipsing the power of government to dictate what is good.

As of today and the near past, there are many economists and historians who view Progressives as the greater authoritarians. You have admitted that government must be authoritarian in order to pass Progressive legislation. Which is admitting that Progressives are authoritarian.

So if Republicans become THE AUTHORITARIAN PARTY when they finally succeed in becoming bona fide Progressive Republicans, their undemocratic and un-American "good" authoritarianism should make you happy.

Social science will reveal that as the Republican Party became increasingly conservative, building a base with the religious right, it became the authoritarian party. That authoritarianism revealed itself to be undemocratic and un-American.
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the party that wants smaller federal government reach, less federal intrusion, the party that wants to give people more liberty and choice, is the authoritarian party.

That’s just brilliant Pete. You have a dazzling intellect.
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the party that wants smaller federal government reach, less federal intrusion, the party that wants to give people more liberty and choice, is the authoritarian party.

That’s just brilliant Pete. You have a dazzling intellect.
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Trying to overthrow the government, banning the teaching of history, banning books, these things are not “conservative”, they are truly radical
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the party that wants smaller federal government reach, less federal intrusion, the party that wants to give people more liberty and choice, is the authoritarian party.

That’s just brilliant Pete. You have a dazzling intellect.
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"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the (Republican) party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."

Guess who
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Trying to overthrow the government, banning the teaching of history, banning books, these things are not “conservative”, they are truly radical
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when leftists act this way you dummies call it democracy

"Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the (Republican) party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them."

Guess who
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hillary was a goldwater girl....ssssooooooo

Jonathan Last on The GOP Is an Authoritarian Regime

(1) This unanimously-approved censure document has to be viewed in conjunction with the RNC’s 2020 platform.

You will recall that in 2020, the RNC declined to create a platform.

Instead, the RNC passed a 1-page resolution which concluded that the party stood for . . . literally whatever Donald Trump wanted:

RESOLVED, That the Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the President’s America-first agenda.

That was the party platform.

This inverted the traditional relationship between a president and his party. Historically, the party had a bunch of ideas and the president was their elected champion, the guy who would support the party and carry its banner forth.

Trump switched it so that the president was his own state and the party existed purely to support him in the perpetuation of his power.

Now put the RNC platform’s pledge of fealty to Trump next to the unanimous censure of Cheney and Kinzinger and what you see looks more like juche than anything we’re used to in the history of American political institutions.

(2) Buried in the censure of Cheney and Kinzinger is a revealing phrase:

. . . they are both using their past professed political affiliation . . .

“Professed.”

This isn’t a stray word. It’s an assertion that Cheney and Kinzinger were never real Republicans—that they were impostors the whole time, whose actions over the past year represented not a break in behavior but a revelation of their true selves.

This is Stalinist. Like, literally. There’s simply no other way to read it.

And it is extraordinary in American politics.

It is nice that a handful of elected Republicans are pushing back against this censure document. But I do not understand—and I mean this, genuinely—how someone could remain in the GOP. It is not a political party in any meaningful sense. It is an authoritarian machine.
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Trying to overthrow the government, banning the teaching of history, banning books, these things are not “conservative”, they are truly radical
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trump is one guy. he’s not “the republican party”

pete, biden is a pathological
liar, he obviously sold
influence to profit his son, a plagiarist, said republicans want to put blacks in chains, a weird woman sniffer with a rape allegation against him.

are you responsible
for that? are all democrats? do you get painted with biden’s personal
flaws?

this is what people
do, when they don’t want to talk about policy.
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Banning books,
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books such as the one showing young boys blowing each other. not banning them entirely, just from public schools.

but when the left forces christian businesses out of business because they won’t participate in gay weddings, that’s not authoritarian. trying to shut down joe rogan, firing Gina Carano, etc…

unbelievable.
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books such as the one showing young boys blowing each other. not banning them entirely, just from public schools.

but when the left forces christian businesses out of business because they won’t participate in gay weddings, that’s not authoritarian. trying to shut down joe rogan, firing Gina Carano, etc…

unbelievable.
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the left loves banning and burning stuff.....

the left loves banning and burning stuff.....

when maine waters goes on tv and tells democrats rats to hound
members of trump’s cabinet to “let them know they aren’t welcome anywhere, anytime” is that authoritarian?

when AOC tells Schumer to “make life as difficult as possible” for Manchin and Sinema, is that authoritarian?
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trump is one guy. he’s not “the republican party”

pete, biden is a pathological
liar, he obviously sold
influence to profit his son, a plagiarist, said republicans want to put blacks in chains, a weird woman sniffer with a rape allegation against him.

are you responsible
for that? are all democrats? do you get painted with biden’s personal
flaws?

this is what people
do, when they don’t want to talk about policy.
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You will recall that in 2020, the RNC declined to create a platform.

Instead, the RNC passed a 1-page resolution which concluded that the party stood for . . . literally whatever Donald Trump wanted:
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when maine waters goes on tv and tells democrats rats to hound
members of trump’s cabinet to “let them know they aren’t welcome anywhere, anytime” is that authoritarian?

when AOC tells Schumer to “make life as difficult as possible” for Manchin and Sinema, is that authoritarian?
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They censure Liz Cheney, one of the most conservative members of Congress,

But won’t censure a corrupt, sexual predator, disgraced twice impeached former president Trump.

Tells you everything you need to about today’s GOP.
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They censure Liz Cheney, one of the most conservative members of Congress,


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don't worry, if she opposes something you like or runs for president...you will trash her

CPAC is holding their conference n Hungary , an authoritarian regime under the thumb of Putin tells you the conservative Republican Party no longer exist . It’s no longer a matter of policy differences
For Republicans it’s a matter of changing our democracy to a different governance
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Reporters barred from Gorsuch’s appearance at Orlando Federalist Society conference


So let me get this correct a SCJ is willing to speak at an event where his speech is not allowed to be Heard by the Press?

and we have another whose Wife is knee deep in Jan6th and other cases in front of the court and he refuses to recuse himself :bs:

trump is one guy. he’s not “the republican party”

clearly you're not paying attention and live in a fantasy:rotflmao:



this is what people
do, when they don’t want to talk about policy. Jim republicans A the only policy they talk about is Abortion and Taxes they pass even less
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Give it up the republican BASE the RNC have sold their souls to Trump and his Lies you can't escape it you can't have it both ways Hate trump but love his Policies... But keep trying :btu:

Give it up the republican BASE the RNC have sold their souls to Trump and his Lies you can't escape it you can't have it both ways Hate trump but love his Policies... But keep trying :btu:

trump is more than one person?

there are tens of millions of republicans. a group that large has some awful, awful people
in it.

do the actions of the BLM rioters who killed people, say anything about you Wayne?

you believe in Biden’s policies. that doesn’t mean you approve of every single thing he does.

Well, actually in your case, it does mean exactly that

But for everyone else, supporting a persons policies, isn’t the same as supporting how he lives his life

Bill Clinton is a gigantic hero on the left. And he’s absolutely repugnant. And i say he was a good president by the way. but a rotten, disgusting human being.

Most people on the right like trump’s
policies, not his ethics.

And according to the Gallup poll, it wasn’t just people on the right who liked his policies.
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Give it up the republican BASE the RNC have sold their souls to Trump and his Lies you can't escape it you can't have it both ways Hate trump but love his Policies... But keep trying :btu:

you’re saying one cannot like trumps policies but dislike him personally?

you’re insane.

58% of americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump, an all time record. and that was during a pandemic. That was an alltime record. an all tome record, is not an ambiguous result.

how do you explain that poll? enjoy’

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4747228002

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how do you explain that poll? enjoy’


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most Americans are stupid and don't know what's best for them and their their families so they need leftist ideologues and institutions to direct their lives and raise their kids for them

most Americans are stupid and don't know what's best for them and their their families so they need leftist ideologues and institutions to direct their lives and raise their kids for them

i’d honestly like
to see if that’s how he responds.
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most Americans are stupid and don't know what's best for them and their their families so they need leftist ideologues and institutions to direct their lives and raise their kids for them

also remember he was quite impressed by his poll that showed a “full” 51% agreed with him.
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you’re saying one cannot like trumps policies but dislike him personally?

you’re insane.

58% of americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump, an all time record. and that was during a pandemic. That was an alltime record. an all tome record, is not an ambiguous result.

how do you explain that poll? enjoy’

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4747228002

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Trump lost
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Virginia's new Republican governor, who banned critical race theory in schools, is launching a tip line for parents to report their kids' teachers:btu:


He said parents can report public-school teachers if they believe they're "behaving objectionably."


Gotto love the GOP facts need not apply all you need is a feeling :wavey:

Youngkin banned the teaching of "inherently divisive concepts" on his first day in office. The order didn't define "divisive concepts, amazing

The party of big government and executive control

Limiting the power of local school districts, Virginia Gov. Youngkin signs law barring school mask mandates.
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The party of big government and executive control

Limiting the power of local school districts, Virginia Gov. Youngkin signs law barring school mask mandates.
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yes, barring mandates is good, nothing is stopping anyone from wearing masks, double masking, double masking and wearing gloves or from parents masking their children if they have concerns

yes, barring mandates is good, nothing is stopping anyone from wearing masks, double masking, double masking and wearing gloves or from parents masking their children if they have concerns

Yes, for the benevolent authoritarian, mandates are freedom, liberty is oppression.

Yes, for the benevolent authoritarian, mandates are freedom, liberty is oppression.

All 3 Republicans running for Michigan Attorney General just stated that they oppose the ruling in Griswold v Connecticut which outlawed prosecuting married couples for using contraception.

You read that right.

We spent 20 years fighting the Taliban and they were here hiding under rocks all along. Good luck Michigan.
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All 3 Republicans running for Michigan Attorney General just stated that they oppose the ruling in Griswold v Connecticut which outlawed prosecuting married couples for using contraception.

You read that right.

We spent 20 years fighting the Taliban and they were here hiding under rocks all along. Good luck Michigan.
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You quote verbatim, without quotation marks nor attribution, a one-sided, uncomprehensive tweet by hyperpartisan, hyperauthoritarion Democrat Mich. AG Dana Nessel and think you've really given us some important and incisive information?

quote verbatim, without quotation marks, nor attribution, one-sided, uncomprehensive , hyperpartisan, and think you've really given us some important and incisive information?



that's our pete all day every day...

BREAKING: Virginia Attorney General Jason Miyares accepted multiple large campaign donations during this past month of session, which is illegal under Virginia law.
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You quote verbatim, without quotation marks nor attribution, a one-sided, uncomprehensive tweet by hyperpartisan, hyperauthoritarion Democrat Mich. AG Dana Nessel and think you've really given us some important and incisive information?
Are you denying what they said or just spinning
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Are you denying what they said or just spinning
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Neither denying nor affirming. The devil is in the details. What is it in or about the ruling that they oppose, and why?

In case you aren't following along, Florida Republicans —#^&having pushed through a ban on rape & incest victims getting abortions —#^&are now coming after birth control:
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In case you aren't following along, Florida Republicans —#^&having pushed through a ban on rape & incest victims getting abortions —#^&are now coming after birth control:
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Sounds like it's time for one of your "poor victims" type memes.

Pro choice about masking and vaccines, but if your a women your rights to choose are going backwards, seems the GOP is loosing touch with how many women vote and are pro choice.

Pro choice about masking and vaccines, but if your a women your rights to choose are going backwards, seems the GOP is loosing touch with how many women vote and are pro choice.

then it should help you in November and you should be happy...

then it should help you in November and you should be happy...

Only if they are smart and acknowledge how important the mid term races at all levels are, but as we all know the mid terms are historically not kind to the incumbent party.

Only if they are smart and acknowledge how important the mid term races at all levels are, but as we all know the mid terms are historically not kind to the incumbent party.

oh that's right...most Americans are stupid...we learned that the other day


it's going to be much worse than "not kind" :happy:

Pro choice about masking and vaccines, but if your a women your rights to choose are going backwards, seems the GOP is loosing touch with how many women vote and are pro choice.

i’m about to destroy that stupid argument.Ready?

Do you believe women have the right to choose to hurt others?

No you don’t. We all agree no one has that right.

So the abortion issue has absolutely zero to do with a woman’s right to choose. It’s about one thing and one thing only…is the unborn a person?

Because if you beiueves it was a person, you’d also be opposed to abortion.

your side can’t frame this debate honestly for one second. So you pretend it’s about enslaving women, because that’s easier for you to defend.

you and i both agree that women can choose whatever they want as long as they don’t harm someone else. The abortion debate, then, only comes down to whether or not the unborn baby represents “someone else.”

would it kill you to be honest for a fraction of a second?
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In case you aren't following along, Florida Republicans —#^&having pushed through a ban on rape & incest victims getting abortions —#^&are now coming after birth control:
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From a good friend who moved to FL 2 years ago...

I wonder if leftists would support mandated pregnancy protection and a mandatory abortion vaccine...but I don't want to give them any ideas

i’m about to destroy that stupid argument.Ready?

Do you believe women have the right to choose to hurt others?

No you don’t. We all agree no one has that right.

So the abortion issue has absolutely zero to do with a woman’s right to choose. It’s about one thing and one thing only…is the unborn a person?

Because if you beiueves it was a person, you’d also be opposed to abortion.

your side can’t frame this debate honestly for one second. So you pretend it’s about enslaving women, because that’s easier for you to defend.

you and i both agree that women can choose whatever they want as long as they don’t harm someone else. The abortion debate, then, only comes down to whether or not the unborn baby represents “someone else.”

would it kill you to be honest for a fraction of a second?
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You are entitled to your opinion, but row wade proved your opinion isn’t held by the majority, so that argument is a fail.

In case you aren't following along, Florida Republicans —#^&having pushed through a ban on rape & incest victims getting abortions —#^&are now coming after birth control:
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The ban is only after the unborn baby is past 15 weeks of development. You forgot to mention that. That's kind of a lot of time, isn't it?

If you believe the unborn baby is a human being, that belief would not depend upon the circumstances of conception.

I think getting an abortion after one had consensual sex (the vast majority of abortions) and getting an abortion after being raped, are not morally equivalent. Those are two very different situations. But if you believe life begins at conception, it's totally consistent to not offer an exception for rape. Many people believe the baby is a human being, period, and that abortion is infanticide regardless of the circumstances of conception.

What are they doing with birth control?

You are entitled to your opinion, but row wade proved your opinion isn’t held by the majority, so that argument is a fail.

complete, cowardly dodge.

You said it's about enslaving women, It's not. And you know it.


"row wade proved your opinion isn’t held by the majority"

What in Gods name are you talking about? Roe wasn't decided by a national referendum. It was decided by 9 unelected judges.

And I completely agree that my position isn't a majority. Being unpopular, and being a failure, aren't exactly the same thing.

Anyway, I tried to engage you like an adult, but you dodged because I had a valid point.

You are entitled to your opinion, but row wade proved your opinion isn’t held by the majority,



how exactly?

but row wade proved....



and...good grief....

if your a women your rights to choose are going backwards, seems the GOP is loosing touch with how many women vote and are pro choice.

"if your a women your rights to choose are going backwards"

Only in states where voters chose to elect conservatives.

GS, that's how democracy works. Where did liberals get the idea, that "democracy" means liberals get their way every single time?

"seems the GOP is loosing touch with how many women vote"

Seems that a meaningful number of suburban women are less concerned with abortion rights at the moment, and more concerned with their schools, which they pay for, turning into liberal, woke sh*tholes. If you don't believe me, drive to the Virginia capital and see if you can find Governor McAuliffe.

If you're right, democrats will clean up in November.

Watch what happens with Hispanic voters in November. They are moving right.

A month into his term, Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s job approval is mixed, while support for his signature policy proposals is low.

Those are the findings of the annual State of the Commonwealth Poll, conducted by the Wason Center for Civic Leadership at Christopher Newport University.

Youngkin’s approval ratings, and respondents’ opinions on the direction of the commonwealth, are a muddle: 41% of respondents said they approve of the job Youngkin is doing, while 43% disapprove, and 16% said they don’t know. The differences were pretty well split among partisan lines, with 80% of Republican voters saying Virginia is heading in the right direction, compared to 22% of Democrats and 45% of independents.
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A month into his term, Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s job approval is mixed, while support for his signature policy proposals is low.

Those are the findings of the annual State of the Commonwealth Poll, conducted by the Wason Center for Civic Leadership at Christopher Newport University.

Youngkin’s approval ratings, and respondents’ opinions on the direction of the commonwealth, are a muddle: 41% of respondents said they approve of the job Youngkin is doing, while 43% disapprove, and 16% said they don’t know. The differences were pretty well split among partisan lines, with 80% of Republican voters saying Virginia is heading in the right direction, compared to 22% of Democrats and 45% of independents.
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"A month into his term, Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin’s job approval is mixed,"

A year into Biden's term, Biden's approval ratings are not mixed, not ambiguous in any way.

Yet you desperately avoid talking about that, and think that Youngkins approval one month in, is relevant.

You are hysterical.

complete, cowardly dodge.

You said it's about enslaving women, It's not. And you know it.


"row wade proved your opinion isn’t held by the majority"

What in Gods name are you talking about? Roe wasn't decided by a national referendum. It was decided by 9 unelected judges.

And I completely agree that my position isn't a majority. Being unpopular, and being a failure, aren't exactly the same thing.

Anyway, I tried to engage you like an adult, but you dodged because I had a valid point.

I keep forgetting how very important it is to make sure all my words are chosen carefully because you and others are not always able to get the full meaning or the gist of every post, I should have clearly stated the movement leading up to Row vs Wade proved a large majority of women want to choose what is right for them, not some holier than thou churchgoer telling her what is right and wrong.

But hey thanks for the lesson in the courts, I'm just amazed at what I can learn reading your post, too funny you assuming that's what I meant.

I keep forgetting how very important it is to make sure all my words are chosen carefully because you and others are not always able to get the full meaning or the gist of every post, I should have clearly stated the movement leading up to Row vs Wade proved a large majority of women want to choose what is right for them, not some holier than thou churchgoer telling her what is right and wrong.

But hey thanks for the lesson in the courts, I'm just amazed at what I can learn reading your post, too funny you assuming that's what I meant.

you completely lied about my sides stance, and i pointed it out. sorry if that rubbed you the wrong way.
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I women want to choose what is right for them, not some holier than thou churchgoer telling her what is right and wrong.



why does your side then flip flop on letting them choose vaccines and masks?

in those cases, do they need some holier than thou liberal telling them what is right and wrong?


the rights stance is consistent ( women can do what they want, as long as they don’t harm someone else). the left is flip flopping depending on the specific issue.


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you completely lied about my sides stance, and i pointed it out. sorry if that rubbed you the wrong way.
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tell him that we fully support his right to choose to constantly supply proof that he is not very bright :laugha:

why does your side then flip flop on letting them choose vaccines and masks?

in those cases, do they need some holier than thou liberal telling them what is right and wrong

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because he thinks he is likely to die if you don't get vaccinated or wear a mask...and then he won't be able to go golfing...

The right just wants to be left alone. Aside from controlling what women can & cannot do with their own bodies, controlling what teachers can & cannot teach, controlling the books our kids can & cannot read in school, controlling who can & cannot vote & controlling which votes can & cannot be counted… aside from that.
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The right just wants to be left alone. Aside from controlling what women can & cannot do with their own bodies, controlling what teachers can & cannot teach, controlling the books our kids can & cannot read in school, controlling who can & cannot vote & controlling which votes can & cannot be counted… aside from that.
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which is why he gop never wins elections.
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The right just wants to be left alone. Aside from controlling what women can & cannot do with their own bodies,

Women, for the most part, are free to do what they want with their own bodies. There are some things society prohibits for the common good and order such as not walking their bodies accross the street against a red light or not ingesting various prohibited substances, and a whole lot of stuff like that. Fetuses BTW, are not their body.

controlling what teachers can & cannot teach,

Education departments have been doing that from the beginning and under control of either Dem or Repub administrations.

controlling the books our kids can & cannot read in school,

Education departments have been doing that from the beginning and under control of either Dem or Repub administrations.

controlling who can & cannot vote

The Constitution and the States have always done that under all the different political administrations.

& controlling which votes can & cannot be counted…

States, no matter the party in power, have always done that.

aside from that.
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Aside from that, what?

so much good info here...could really help bridge the divide...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4n4n1i7dUY&t=316s

Seems Republicans are on a Culture crusade to Save their vision of America against enemies and issues that dont exist except in their small Myopic world


Texas
Amber Briggle is speaking out again, after making headlines for inviting the Texas Attorney General to dinner in 2016. Texas Child Protective Services is investigating her family. 2022 her son is Transgender


Or Florida lawmakers back the creation of an election crimes investigative office


State republicans reasoning "Our job is to make sure our elections are as secure as possible, and you want to know why? Our constituents are demanding it,"

So that's it ? Truth and facts dont matter ? your passing laws on people's feelings not because you have a fraud Issue.. OK

Oh wait this isn't new in FLA

The Florida Senate passed a bill Tuesday that would prohibit “classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity” in the state’s primary schools. The measure, dubbed the “Don’t Say Gay”

kindergarten through seventh grade I guess all these liberal teachers are turning Floridian Children Gay and Trans before High School and must be stopped


Mexicans are like what about us! dont worry you are on the radar but not until
30 days before the election

Seems Republicans are on a Culture crusade to Save their vision of America against enemies and issues that dont exist except in their small Myopic world


Texas
Amber Briggle is speaking out again, after making headlines for inviting the Texas Attorney General to dinner in 2016. Texas Child Protective Services is investigating her family. 2022 her son is Transgender


Or Florida lawmakers back the creation of an election crimes investigative office


State republicans reasoning "Our job is to make sure our elections are as secure as possible, and you want to know why? Our constituents are demanding it,"

So that's it ? Truth and facts dont matter ? your passing laws on people's feelings not because you have a fraud Issue.. OK

Oh wait this isn't new in FLA

The Florida Senate passed a bill Tuesday that would prohibit “classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity” in the state’s primary schools. The measure, dubbed the “Don’t Say Gay”

kindergarten through seventh grade I guess all these liberal teachers are turning Floridian Children Gay and Trans before High School and must be stopped


Mexicans are like what about us! dont worry you are on the radar but not until
30 days before the election

if no teachers are talking about sexuality, then zero
reason to complain about a bull
preventing it.

You’re right, FL and TX stink, which is why everyone is leaving there, no one is moving there.

i jave zero problem
with homosexuality, i was in favor of gay marriage long before it was popular, i was in favor of it when hilary and obama were adamantly opposed and yet everyone lives them.

but i wouldn’t want it discussed in public school. It’s my job to teach my kids about that stuff, not the teachers. teachers job is to teach math, science, literature.
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Wonder which states have the highest rates of divorce and teen pregnancy?
Better just let them learn about the birds and the bees at recess, huh

Wonder which states have the highest rates of divorce and teen pregnancy?
Better just let them learn about the birds and the bees at recess, huh

Plenty of teen pregnancies in liberal-run cities, last time i checked.

We weren't talking how to avoid getting pregnant. For sure we weren't talking about stable marriages. We were talking about pornography, homosexuality, etc.

It doesn't belong in public school IMO.

Plenty of teen pregnancies in liberal-run cities, last time i checked.

We weren't talking how to avoid getting pregnant. For sure we weren't talking about stable marriages. We were talking about pornography, homosexuality, etc.

It doesn't belong in public school IMO.

In whose opinion does it?

I think they should confine those things to Catholic schools as it historically has.
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In whose opinion does it?

I think they should confine those things to Catholic schools as it historically has.
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in many liberals
opinion, it belongs in public school.

there was a book with illustrations of young boys blowing each other. conservatives wanted it out of school libraries. you guys all said the conservatives were a bunch of book burning, pro-censorship, homophobes
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in many liberals
opinion, it belongs in public school.

there was a book with illustrations of young boys blowing each other. conservatives wanted it out of school libraries. you guys all said the conservatives were a bunch of book burning, pro-censorship, homophobes
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Many liberals.........

What's actually happening is that, after many many many decades of conservatives undercutting education, trying to ban books, and censoring what students can learn, the left had a little more cultural power and a sense of urgency thanks to Trump, and they capitalized on it.

There is a lot to criticize with how some progressive people have capitalized on this moment - what they're prioritizing, the kind of reductive ideas they're teaching. But they are not the new catalyst for right-wing censorship, lying, and attempts to outlaw teaching history.

Or I guess I should say: They are one catalyst for the current right-wing freak-out and attendant attempts at censorship and outlawing teaching accurate US history. But the right has long, long been censoring, lying and removing truth from the classroom. It's not new.

The right didn't start these egregious behaviors yesterday solely in response to the left. They've been doing this for a LONG time. Progressives reacted and had some wins. Now the right is doubling down on these long-standing impulses toward censorship and anti-intellectualism.

right-wing censorship, lying, and attempts to outlaw teaching history.

Outlawing the teaching of history? Is this some widespread attempt? Really? How so?

Or I guess I should say: They are one catalyst for the current right-wing freak-out and attendant attempts at censorship and outlawing teaching accurate US history.

Massive successful attempts of censorship are coming from the left now, big time. The right has to create its own internet platforms now if it wants to reach the masses.

And "accurate US history" is an interesting locution. Would you consider books that comment on US history by Thomas Sowell to be "accurate"? They give a different picture than that painted by Critical Race Theorists.

Now the right is doubling down on these long-standing impulses toward censorship and anti-intellectualism.

Is an "impulse toward censorship" some constant and indiscriminate urge by all on "the right"? Or do some on "the right" at various times succumb to this "impulse"?

And is "the right" teeming with those (anti-intellectuals) who have long-standingly deprecated education, philosophy, art, literature, and science? I don't know anybody on "the right" who have a "long-standing impulse" to do so.

Many liberals.........

What's actually happening is that, after many many many decades of conservatives undercutting education, trying to ban books, and censoring what students can learn, the left had a little more cultural power and a sense of urgency thanks to Trump, and they capitalized on it.

There is a lot to criticize with how some progressive people have capitalized on this moment - what they're prioritizing, the kind of reductive ideas they're teaching. But they are not the new catalyst for right-wing censorship, lying, and attempts to outlaw teaching history.

Or I guess I should say: They are one catalyst for the current right-wing freak-out and attendant attempts at censorship and outlawing teaching accurate US history. But the right has long, long been censoring, lying and removing truth from the classroom. It's not new.

The right didn't start these egregious behaviors yesterday solely in response to the left. They've been doing this for a LONG time. Progressives reacted and had some wins. Now the right is doubling down on these long-standing impulses toward censorship and anti-intellectualism.

if i say schools don’t need books showing adolescent boys boeing each other, that makes me anti intellectual?

i’m saying kids need more time developing their intellect ( math, science, literature), and less time getting indoctrinated with political ideology. Pretty sure that doesn’t make me an anti intellectual. i want schools to focus on developing the intellect. leave the divisive social issues to parents.
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if i say schools don’t need books showing adolescent boys boeing each other, that makes me anti intellectual?

i’m saying kids need more time developing their intellect ( math, science, literature), and less time getting indoctrinated with political ideology. Pretty sure that doesn’t make me an anti intellectual. i want schools to focus on developing the intellect. leave the divisive social issues to parents.
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the difference between you and pete is.... you would never want to force pete's kids to learn those things, if pete wants to teach his kids those things at home that's fine...but pete is happy to have your kids forced to learn those things at school

that makes pete a good person in his mind, and you a bad person and anti-intellectual...see how it works?

the difference between you and pete is.... you would never want to force pete's kids to learn those things, if pete wants to teach his kids those things at home that's fine...but pete is happy to have your kids forced to learn those things at school

that makes pete a good person in his mind, and you a bad person and anti-intellectual...see how it works?

Silly troll, the straw man of one book becomes justification.

The party of book burning, banning local gov'ts from decisions, enabling lawsuits against teachers over hurt feelings, bounties on women seeking medical help, laws restricting voting access for all, & trying to legislate LBGTQ to not exist... has concerns about gov't overreach...
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Silly troll, the straw man of one book becomes justification.

The party of book burning, banning local gov'ts from decisions, enabling lawsuits against teachers over hurt feelings, bounties on women seeking medical help, laws restricting voting access for all, & trying to legislate LBGTQ to not exist... has concerns about gov't overreach...
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^^^someone needs his medication

Silly troll, the straw man of one book becomes justification.

The party of book burning, banning local gov'ts from decisions, enabling lawsuits against teachers over hurt feelings, bounties on women seeking medical help, laws restricting voting access for all, & trying to legislate LBGTQ to not exist... has concerns about gov't overreach...
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schools having books with illustrations of boys blowing each other isn’t government overreach. it’s government stupidity.
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schools having books with illustrations of boys blowing each other isn’t government overreach. it’s government stupidity.
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you are an incompetent parent who won't teach them these skills at home...so it's up to the schools

schools having books with illustrations of boys blowing each other isn’t government overreach. it’s government stupidity.
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Yes the plan is to make sure that book is in every school
You believe that?
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Wonder which states have the highest rates of divorce and teen pregnancy?
Better just let them learn about the birds and the bees at recess, huh



How about you post some stats that lead in number of marriages each year along with the highest divorce rates ?
No one gets married any more compared to generations past so naturally divorce rates will be higher were they actually Get Married.

Yes the plan is to make sure that book is in every school
You believe that?
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Something tells me you wrote the book & have lots of experience in the subject

Something tells me you wrote the book & have lots of experience in the subject

Poor boy
If you were to imagine the littlest whiny weenie, of all the whiniest little weenies ever and bark like a little purse dog, it would be you. I’m glad you exists as the reciprocal of what it means to be a man.
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Oh look - An actual assault on free speech.

Florida Lt. Governor: They will try to bully us like Disney doing. How dare they. They have no right to criticize legislation by duly elected legislators… Governor DeSantis and I won’t stand for it
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Yes the plan is to make sure that book is in every school
You believe that?
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i want to know how you concluded that from what i said.

i’m not worried it’s going to be in every school. but it doesn’t belong in any school:

you criticized parents who didn’t want that crap in their school. Meaning, you think it’s ok for kids to stare at that when they could be learning algebra or chemistry.

i’m comfortable with my side in this one. you’re going off the deep
end, as usual responding to things that i never even came close to saying.
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i want to know how you concluded that from what i said.

i’m not worried it’s going to be in every school. but it doesn’t belong in any school:

you criticized parents who didn’t want that crap in their school. Meaning, you think it’s ok for kids to stare at that when they could be learning algebra or chemistry.

i’m comfortable with my side in this one. you’re going off the deep
end, as usual responding to things that i never even came close to saying.
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Jim, every public school in the USA has LOCAL control.
Why do you think that State or Federal government needs to control this?
Or are you, once again, playing your victim card.

For you, the straw man of one book becomes justification.

The party of book burning, banning local gov'ts from decisions, enabling lawsuits against teachers over hurt feelings, bounties on women seeking medical help, laws restricting voting access for all, & trying to legislate LBGTQ to not exist... has concerns about gov't overreach...
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Jim, every public school in the USA has LOCAL control.
Why do you think that State or Federal government needs to control this?
Or are you, once again, playing your victim card.

For you, the straw man of one book becomes justification.

The party of book burning, banning local gov'ts from decisions, enabling lawsuits against teachers over hurt feelings, bounties on women seeking medical help, laws restricting voting access for all, & trying to legislate LBGTQ to not exist... has concerns about gov't overreach...
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The answer from the politicians passing these laws

It’s what our gerrymander constituents want .

They called it leadership when it’s just playing to the Mob

These same people will be ok with camps …. to house these deviants
! If that’s what their constituents want !

All the pieces are in place , They just need Trump back in office.

Because they know he will willingly destroy whatever they want and He’s the key
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Republican strategy: Representatives in multiple states are pushing bills that would attempt to limit what residents can and can't do even beyond state lines.

I get it some are against Abortion and anything transgender related. Not sure how they can support something like this .
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Jim, every public school in the USA has LOCAL control.
Why do you think that State or Federal government needs to control this?
Or are you, once again, playing your victim card.

For you, the straw man of one book becomes justification.

The party of book burning, banning local gov'ts from decisions, enabling lawsuits against teachers over hurt feelings, bounties on women seeking medical help, laws restricting voting access for all, & trying to legislate LBGTQ to not exist... has concerns about gov't overreach...
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"every public school in the USA has LOCAL control."

(1) wrong. Every public school in the USA has state and federal guidelines that they must abide by. I'm fine with less federal/state control, and more local control. I taught in CT, and there were ALL KINDS of state and federal rules that dictated some of what we had to do. There's nothing remotely new about state or federal intrusion.

(2) You're saying you're a proponent of local control, yet when local parents show up at local school board meetings to express local concerns, you dismiss them as crackpots. So you're kind of all over the place.

"once again, playing your victim card"

Again, not sure how you could conclude that. I'm saying you're demonstrably, laughably wrong if you think that Republicans are inventing the idea of state control.

With masks, Desantis wanted control to be at the most local level - the individual. Desantis didn't forbid anyone wearing masks in school. He forbid towns from forcing people to wear them. That's a big, big difference.

As to teaching sexuality to elementary school kids, I don't like it, but if a town wants to do it, I think they should be allowed to do it. If parents don't like it, they can elect a new school board. I think states and the feds should but out. But if you think Democrats want to leave education to local boards, you're wrong.

Pete, you just can't handle it when anyone isn't on 100% board with pure, unchecked liberalism, on any single issue. Which is why you may well need to check into rehab after the midterms.

The answer from the politicians passing these laws

It’s what our gerrymander constituents want .

T
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Please explain how a governor benefits from gerrymandering. A governor wins a statewide election. Do you know what "statewide" means?

The answer from the politicians passing these laws

It’s what our gerrymander constituents want .

They called it leadership when it’s just playing to the Mob

These same people will be ok with camps …. to house these deviants
! If that’s what their constituents want !

All the pieces are in place , They just need Trump back in office.

Because they know he will willingly destroy whatever they want and He’s the key
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"These same people will be ok with camps …. to house these deviants "

Who is saying they want camps?

"They just need Trump back in office. Because they know he will willingly destroy whatever they want"

What, exactly, did Trump destroy during his term at the behest of the right wing mob?

Wayne, are liberals more tolerant of differing opinions? What happens to Christian bakers who would rather not participate in a gay wedding for religious reasons? Does the left say "we respect your right to religious freedom"? Or does the left try to force them out of business?

Conservative speakers are regularly hounded from college campuses. Does it ever happen to liberal speakers?

Plenty of close-mindedness on your side too. But you'll never, ever admit it, despite endless video evidence.

The left describes everyone not on the left, as a hatemonger. Hilarys deplorable a speech was the single greatest example of liberal
tolerance and willingness to embrace differing ideas. In November, we'll see how America feels about that. Trumps not on the ballot in november, neither is january 6. it’s a referendum on biden’s first two years, and unless something changes ( which it easily can), it’s going to be a disaster for democrats.

Won’t be a permanent disaster, if the gop takes control they’ll screw it all up too, and the pendulum will
swing back.

But it’s shaping up to be a real shellacking. i’m sure you don’t see it that way.

And the vast majority of america doesn’t watch fox. they are coming to these conclusions on their own. They see how rapidly things have deteriorated since Pudding Brain took office. Ever since rhe Afghanistan withdrawal, it’s been one disaster after another, except for the stock market and jobs.

america knows Putin didn’t cause the overall inflation. they know biden’s lying.

"These same people will be ok with camps …. to house these deviants "

Who is saying they want camps?

"They just need Trump back in office. Because they know he will willingly destroy whatever they want"

What, exactly, did Trump destroy during his term at the behest of the right wing mob?

Wayne, are liberals more tolerant of differing opinions? What happens to Christian bakers who would rather not participate in a gay wedding for religious reasons? Does the left say "we respect your right to religious freedom"? Or does the left try to force them out of business?

Conservative speakers are regularly hounded from college campuses. Does it ever happen to liberal speakers?

Plenty of close-mindedness on your side too. But you'll never, ever admit it, despite endless video evidence.

The left describes everyone not on the left, as a hatemonger. Hilarys deplorable a speech was the single greatest example of liberal
tolerance and willingness to embrace differing ideas. In November, we'll see how America feels about that. Trumps not on the ballot in november, neither is january 6. it’s a referendum on biden’s first two years, and unless something changes ( which it easily can), it’s going to be a disaster for democrats.

Won’t be a permanent disaster, if the gop takes control they’ll screw it all up too, and the pendulum will
swing back.

But it’s shaping up to be a real shellacking. i’m sure you don’t see it that way.

And the vast majority of america doesn’t watch fox. they are coming to these conclusions on their own. They see how rapidly things have deteriorated since Pudding Brain took office. Ever since rhe Afghanistan withdrawal, it’s been one disaster after another, except for the stock market and jobs.

america knows Putin didn’t cause the overall inflation. Only you and Republicans are suggesting that’s what he is saying that’s the actual lie they know biden’s lying.


Conservative lawmakers across the U.S. have unleashed a wave of state legislation attempting to restrict access to abortions and to gender-affirming medical care for transgender youth by allowing lawsuits to be filed against anyone who helps them.

But now there's a new twist in what appears to be a broader Republican strategy: Representatives in multiple states are pushing bills that would attempt to limit what residents can and can't do even beyond state lines.

Like I said camps are not and impossibility

Conservative lawmakers across the U.S. have unleashed a wave of state legislation attempting to restrict access to abortions and to gender-affirming medical care for transgender youth by allowing lawsuits to be filed against anyone who helps them.

But now there's a new twist in what appears to be a broader Republican strategy: Representatives in multiple states are pushing bills that would attempt to limit what residents can and can't do even beyond state lines.

Like I said camps are not and impossibility

"Only you and Republicans are suggesting that’s what he is saying that’s the actual lie"

Oh, it's a Republican lie that Biden is blaming Putin for inflation?

Here, all the Republicans at NBC support my claim that Biden is telling this lie...

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/biden-blames-putin-his-ukraine-war-inflation-rate-high-gas-ncna1291691

"Conservative lawmakers across the U.S. have unleashed a wave of state legislation attempting to restrict access to abortions "

And if people didn't want that, they'd elect liberals instead of conservatives. That's how democracy works, Wayne. You don't get what you want every single time. Why is it such a shock to you, still, that not everyone is exactly like you?

"Representatives in multiple states are pushing bills that would attempt to limit what residents can and can't do even beyond state lines."

Not sure what you mean, can you share a link?

"Like I said camps are not and impossibility"

No, that's not what you said. You said Republicans want camps. You lied.

I think my view on the sexual stuff is what most republicans share. I think people can, and should, do whatever they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone else. People's sexual preferences are absolutely none of my business. But I'd like it if we kept that to ourselves, don't shove it in my face at every turn. I don't want to have to see a gay pride parade any more than I want to see a parade of Chippendales dancers or Hooters waitresses. And don't tell a baker he must participate in a gay wedding if it violates his religious beliefs. Do whatever males you happy, but please leave me out of it. I don't shove my sexuality in anyone else's face, and I'd appreciate the same courtesy.

And no sexuality, whether it be heterosexuality or any other kind, needs to be in an elementary school. Let kids be kids for the brief time they are kids.

None of that is hateful, no matter how you try to spin it. I was in favor of gay marriage when Hilary and Obama were adamantly opposed.

Liberals would do well to grasp that tolerance is a two-way street. Liberals think "tolerance" means everyone has to tolerate them, but they aren't always willing to show it to others.

"Only you and Republicans are suggesting that’s what he is saying that’s the actual lie"

Oh, it's a Republican lie that Biden is blaming Putin for inflation?

Here, all the Republicans at NBC support my claim that Biden is telling this lie...

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/biden-blames-putin-his-ukraine-war-inflation-rate-high-gas-ncna1291691

"Conservative lawmakers across the U.S. have unleashed a wave of state legislation attempting to restrict access to abortions "

And if people didn't want that, they'd elect liberals instead of conservatives. That's how democracy works, Wayne. You don't get what you want every single time. Why is it such a shock to you, still, that not everyone is exactly like you?

"Representatives in multiple states are pushing bills that would attempt to limit what residents can and can't do even beyond state lines."

Not sure what you mean, can you share a link?

"Like I said camps are not and impossibility"

No, that's not what you said. You said Republicans want camps. You lied.

I think my view on the sexual stuff is what most republicans share. I think people can, and should, do whatever they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone else. People's sexual preferences are absolutely none of my business. But I'd like it if we kept that to ourselves, don't shove it in my face at every turn. I don't want to have to see a gay pride parade any more than I want to see a parade of Chippendales dancers or Hooters waitresses. And don't tell a baker he must participate in a gay wedding if it violates his religious beliefs. Do whatever males you happy, but please leave me out of it. I don't shove my sexuality in anyone else's face, and I'd appreciate the same courtesy.

And no sexuality, whether it be heterosexuality or any other kind, needs to be in an elementary school. Let kids be kids for the brief time they are kids.

None of that is hateful, no matter how you try to spin it. I was in favor of gay marriage when Hilary and Obama were adamantly opposed.

Liberals would do well to grasp that tolerance is a two-way street. Liberals think "tolerance" means everyone has to tolerate them, but they aren't always willing to show it to others.

So in a nut shell you support these Republicans who wish to criminalize what people do outside their states

If these actions are so supported as you suggest why are they never on the ballot in theses states ?
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So in a nut shell you support these Republicans who wish to criminalize what people do outside their states

If these actions are so supported as you suggest why are they never on the ballot in theses states ?
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i asked you to explain the laws that would criminalize what people
do outside their state, because i honestly have no idea what you’re referring to.

wdmso, there probably isn’t a politician who i agree with 100% of the time. not one. i don’t expect to.

do you ever disagree with liberals
on anything? ever?
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So in a nut shell you support these Republicans who wish to criminalize what people do outside their states



i asked you to explain the laws that would criminalize what people
do outside their state, because i honestly have no idea what you’re referring to.

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just say yes...because in his mind, he's going to believe you said yes.... and then argue as though you did.... regardless...:D

......like playing chess with a pigeon
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......like playing chess with a pigeon
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Nearly sprayed my computer screen with what I was drinking . . . that was funny.

asked you to explain the laws that would criminalize what people
do outside their state, because i honestly have no idea what you’re referring to.


A google search would tell you everything you need to know
But you won’t

Here is some other proposed bills

Recently in Missouri, a state representative introduced a measure that would let people sue anyone they suspect of helping a resident get an abortion in another state.

More than 1,500 miles away, an Idaho bill seeking to ban gender-affirming care for youth would have made it a felony to help a child access care outside the state

It’s not a hard choice you agree or you disagree what details would make these OK?

Clearly these bills haven’t been put into law . But just their submission sends up red flags
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gender-affirming care

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this sends up red flags....

asked you to explain the laws that would criminalize what people
do outside their state, because i honestly have no idea what you’re referring to.


A google search would tell you everything you need to know
But you won’t

Here is some other proposed bills

Recently in Missouri, a state representative introduced a measure that would let people sue anyone they suspect of helping a resident get an abortion in another state.

More than 1,500 miles away, an Idaho bill seeking to ban gender-affirming care for youth would have made it a felony to help a child access care outside the state

It’s not a hard choice you agree or you disagree what details would make these OK?

Clearly these bills haven’t been put into law . But just their submission sends up red flags
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Sounds like there are a couple of conservative nutjobs out there, which we already knew. There's no way those laws can be constitutional.

I can fill the servers here with comparable examples of blatant unconstitutionality from the left, but you won't care, or ever admit it exists.

WDMSO, there are plenty of bad people and crazy people on both sides. Not just one side.

You ignore everything negative the left does, and ignore everything positive the right does. That must be a very soothing and reassuring approach for you to take, but it doesn't result in a meaningful comparison.

Sounds like there are a couple of conservative nutjobs out there, which we already knew.

.

at least a couple:hihi:

no elected democrap nutjobs though:huh:

at least a couple:hihi:

no elected democrap nutjobs though:huh:

nope! the gop has the monopoly on imperfections.

Hank Johnson, US democrat congressman from GA, said he was concerned about building a base in Guam because it might cause Guam to tip over. He literally said that. He thinks Guam is a frisbee floating on the surface. But it’s incorrect and even racist to say he’s a stunningly stupid person.
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Someone elected a guy to the highest office in the land who wanted to nuke hurricanes, rake the forest, water bomb Norte Dame, thinks Putin is a genius, need I go on???
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Someone elected a guy to the highest office in the land who wanted to nuke hurricanes, rake the forest, water bomb Norte Dame, thinks Putin is a genius, need I go on???
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No. More nonsense is not helpful.

Someone elected a guy to the highest office in the land who wanted to nuke hurricanes, rake the forest, water bomb Norte Dame, thinks Putin is a genius, need I go on???
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Replaced with an Alzheimers patient. Big improvement.

60% of americans said they were better off after 4 years of trump. Let's see how many say that bout Biden.

Saying Putin is smart, isn't the same thing as saying hes a good person.

Mississippi Governor Signs Law Limiting Race in Lessons
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves signed a bill Monday to limit how race can be discussed in classrooms, and it became law immediately.

the march to fascism continues

Mississippi Governor Signs Law Limiting Race in Lessons
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves signed a bill Monday to limit how race can be discussed in classrooms, and it became law immediately.

the march to fascism continues

it’s fascist to prevent public teachers from making students feel guilty about their skin color…
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