From an HHS spokesman...

the kits "will provide pipes for users to smoke crack cocaine, crystal methamphetamine, and ‘any illicit substance.’"

https://www.foxnews.com/media/critics-mock-fact-checking-site-rating-reporting-biden-crack-pipe-funding-mostly-false

I guess they're not "crack pipes", in the sense that they are also intended to be used for crystal meth.

Hooray! Men peeing in the girls room with little girls, men destroying girls in sports, now the feds are handing out drug supplies.

What a great cultural leap forward.

So who was the HHS spokesman? That quote was from the WFB saying a HHS spokesman said that.

From what I read it is things like alcohol swabs, chap lips stick, etc.

I agree giving out pipes is crazy. Click on the links and even the fox clip I saw everyone said it didn't include pipes.

The Health and Human Services (HHS) Department will not use federal money to provide crack pipes to vulnerable communities, the Biden administration indicated on Wednesday.

In a press release, Becerra and Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) Director Dr. Rahul Gupta said the administration was "focused on using our resources smartly to reduce harm and save lives. Accordingly, no federal funding will be used directly or through subsequent reimbursement of grantees to put pipes in safe smoking kits."

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said on Wednesday the reporting was inaccurate and that crack pipes were never part of the smoking kits. The Free Beacon claimed, however, to have spoken with a HHS spokesman who confirmed that crack pipes and other paraphernalia would be part of the kits.

From what I read it is things like chap lips stick, etc.



need lotsa chap stick hitting that pipe!

Needle exchanges find new champions among Republicans Key Florida Republicans Now Say Yes To Clean Needles For Drug Users

I bet everyone here has seen a crack pipe they look like a weed pipe .. or a coke Bottle with a pice of Tim foil (you guys have tons of that).



So needle exchanges are acceptable but crack pipes go to far. Yes because Crack is a black inner city drug or so they think

We all ready see it in the SCJ pick. GOP Senator Calls Black Judicial Nominee’s 3 Speeding Tickets A ‘Rap Sheet’

Republicans keep saying there is no racism in their party! Then they speak
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Tim foil (you guys have tons of that).




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nope :laugha:

Crack is a black inner city drug or so they think

Republicans keep saying there is no racism in their party! Then they speak

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can always count on you to inject racism in everything...good job

Needle exchanges find new champions among Republicans Key Florida Republicans Now Say Yes To Clean Needles For Drug Users

I bet everyone here has seen a crack pipe they look like a weed pipe .. or a coke Bottle with a pice of Tim foil (you guys have tons of that).



So needle exchanges are acceptable but crack pipes go to far. Yes because Crack is a black inner city drug or so they think

We all ready see it in the SCJ pick. GOP Senator Calls Black Judicial Nominee’s 3 Speeding Tickets A ‘Rap Sheet’

Republicans keep saying there is no racism in their party! Then they speak
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you go out and find a couple of republicans who do or say what you hoped, and claim that's the gop position. it’s not rational.

anything that makes it easier to do drugs is stupid public policy. It's taking stupidity to evangelical heights.
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anything that makes it easier to do drugs is stupid public policy. It's taking stupidity to evangelical heights.
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Bingo
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Let's reinvigorate the wonderfully successful war on drugs,

If prison worked, or if enforcement eliminated drug supplies, the U.S. would have seen a decrease in drug use and overdose deaths in the decades since the war on drugs began. Instead, data show that we suffer from 10 times the number of overdose deaths compared to 1990, despite billions spent on prohibition. The use and availability of fentanyl and other opiates has increased, not decreased.

Every overdose death is a tragedy, and too many Americans have been impacted by overdoses and a lack of health care for users. But let’s not be fooled. It’s easy for politicians to jump to “lock ‘em up” policies as a supposed “quick fix” to try to appease voters. We know from more than four decades of the failed war on drugs that this quick fix is a fiction. Prison and enforcement has not and will never make us safe from the risks of substance use. We need our leaders to tell the truth about this fact. We owe it to those who have lost their lives to overdose, and to those lives that can still be saved.

Let's reinvigorate the wonderfully successful war on drugs,

If prison worked, or if enforcement eliminated drug supplies, the U.S. would have seen a decrease in drug use and overdose deaths in the decades since the war on drugs began. Instead, data show that we suffer from 10 times the number of overdose deaths compared to 1990, despite billions spent on prohibition. The use and availability of fentanyl and other opiates has increased, not decreased.

Every overdose death is a tragedy, and too many Americans have been impacted by overdoses and a lack of health care for users. But let’s not be fooled. It’s easy for politicians to jump to “lock ‘em up” policies as a supposed “quick fix” to try to appease voters. We know from more than four decades of the failed war on drugs that this quick fix is a fiction. Prison and enforcement has not and will never make us safe from the risks of substance use. We need our leaders to tell the truth about this fact. We owe it to those who have lost their lives to overdose, and to those lives that can still be saved.

I never, ever said that taking a hard stance will eliminate drugs.

But look at the places that are notoriously soft on drugs, like Portland and San Francisco, and show me the evidence that enabling addicts is better than showing them tough love.

I'll wait for your evidence of such.

Pete, if you had a son who was addicted to heroin, would you give him clean needles?

I never, ever said that taking a hard stance will eliminate drugs.

But look at the places that are notoriously soft on drugs, like Portland and San Francisco, and show me the evidence that enabling addicts is better than showing them tough love.

I'll wait for your evidence of such.

Pete, if you had a son who was addicted to heroin, would you give him clean needles?

Portugal has done better than most of Europe thru decriminalization, it has significantly reduced the Portuguese prison population and eased the burden on the criminal justice system.


I'm lucky enough that I could afford treatment and that my kids haven't had that issue.

I'd just as soon not add to their illness, are you saying that if your kid was addicted, you'd just as soon he also had HIV/AIDS, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C.

Portugal has done better than most of Europe thru decriminalization, it has significantly reduced the Portuguese prison population and eased the burden on the criminal justice system.


I'm lucky enough that I could afford treatment and that my kids haven't had that issue.

I'd just as soon not add to their illness, are you saying that if your kid was addicted, you'd just as soon he also had HIV/AIDS, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C.

"thru decriminalization, it has significantly reduced the Portuguese prison population and eased the burden on the criminal justice system"

Who cares?

We could also reduce the prison population and ease the burden on our criminal justice system, if we made everything legal. But reducing prison population isn't progress, if it sends people into the public who don't belong there. Telling me that Portugal decreased their prison population, isn't by itself, evidence of any improvement.

Why look at Portugal, when as I said, you can look at liberal utopias like San Francisco.

"I'm lucky enough that I could afford treatment and that my kids haven't had that issue."

So despite the partial dodge, you're saying no, you wouldn't provide needles to an addicted child.

"I'd just as soon not add to their illness"

How is giving them neeedles, not adding to the drug problem?

"if your kid was addicted, you'd just as soon he also had HIV/AIDS, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C"

I'd drag my kid by the hair into rehab.

"thru decriminalization, it has significantly reduced the Portuguese prison population and eased the burden on the criminal justice system"

Who cares?

We could also reduce the prison population and ease the burden on our criminal justice system, if we made everything legal. But reducing prison population isn't progress, if it sends people into the public who don't belong there. Telling me that Portugal decreased their prison population, isn't by itself, evidence of any improvement.

Why look at Portugal, when as I said, you can look at liberal utopias like San Francisco.

"I'm lucky enough that I could afford treatment and that my kids haven't had that issue."

So despite the partial dodge, you're saying no, you wouldn't provide needles to an addicted child.

"I'd just as soon not add to their illness"

How is giving them neeedles, not adding to the drug problem?

"if your kid was addicted, you'd just as soon he also had HIV/AIDS, hepatitis B, and hepatitis C"

I'd drag my kid by the hair into rehab.

We pay for every person we imprison, far better to have them be functioning members of society than locked up.

I’d do what I had to if my kid had that issue and I have no problem with giving addicts proper care and assistance.

Let’s hope none of us have to “drag my kid by the hair into rehab”, if it happens you’ll find out it’s not that simple.

You think addicts parents are all at fault?
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We pay for every person we imprison, far better to have them be functioning members of society than locked up.

I’d do what I had to if my kid had that issue and I have no problem with giving addicts proper care and assistance.

Let’s hope none of us have to “drag my kid by the hair into rehab”, if it happens you’ll find out it’s not that simple.

You think addicts parents are all at fault?
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"We pay for every person we imprison"

I am aware that it's not free. Every sane person is happy to pay taxes to keep some people in prison.

"far better to have them be functioning members of society than locked up."

I am pretty sure that most people who are in prison, are there specifically because they weren't acting like functioning members of society, prior to being put into prison..

I agree it would be better if we had more productive citizens, and fewer prison inmates. You seem to be saying that the only thing stopping prisoners from being productive members of society, is being in prison? You think if we let them all go, they'd all be productive citizens? Are you under the impression that we pick functioning citizens at random, and put them in prison?

"I’d do what I had to if my kid had that issue and I have no problem with giving addicts proper care and assistance."

Nobody has a problem with giving them "proper care". The question is, is it "proper care" to enable them to continue to do hard drugs?

"if it happens you’ll find out it’s not that simple."

When did I say its simple? When you kid's life is at stake you do what's right, even if it's not simple. Simple doesn't even factor into it.

"We pay for every person we imprison"

I am aware that it's not free. Every sane person is happy to pay taxes to keep some people in prison.

"far better to have them be functioning members of society than locked up."

I am pretty sure that most people who are in prison, are there specifically because they weren't acting like functioning members of society, prior to being put into prison..

I agree it would be better if we had more productive citizens, and fewer prison inmates. You seem to be saying that the only thing stopping prisoners from being productive members of society, is being in prison? You think if we let them all go, they'd all be productive citizens? Are you under the impression that we pick functioning citizens at random, and put them in prison?

"I’d do what I had to if my kid had that issue and I have no problem with giving addicts proper care and assistance."

Nobody has a problem with giving them "proper care". The question is, is it "proper care" to enable them to continue to do hard drugs?

"if it happens you’ll find out it’s not that simple."

When did I say its simple? When you kid's life is at stake you do what's right, even if it's not simple. Simple doesn't even factor into it.

So apparently you think we’re winning the war on drugs
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can always count on you to inject racism in everything...good job

And you deny it’s even a thing
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We all know jim was really hoping for a government issue “let’s go Brandon” butt plug.
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So apparently you think we’re winning the war on drugs
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Not even close. But I dont think we should give up either. And making it easier for people to get and do drugs, seems like giving up to me.

Apparently you think what San Francisco and Portland are doing is working, because you're ok with doing it countrywide.

I'm trying to debate you Pete, but it's hard when you say that letting people out of prison is necessarily a good thing. You don't think a lot of people in prison, deserve to be there? Either to keep us safe from them, or to give a little justice to their victims?

This sums it up

For about a decade, the majority of people who died from overdoses were white, and the discussion around drug policy has centered on prescription opioids. White middle-class people in addiction have been framed as victims of pharmaceutical companies that got them “hooked.” The narrative about Black people who used drugs during the crack crisis of the 1980s and ’90s was very different, implying that their drug use was a criminal and moral failure.


I worked in a detox no one in the state gave a #^&#^&#^&#^& about heroin or overdoses or crack it was inner city problem

Then came oxy’s and guess what it started killing white kids on the cape and in middle class America and boy did treatment in America change it became a disease that people could make money off and so did political outrage , every day for 20 plus years not matter on our court committed detox Count 98% were white between 18 to 26 on Avg , the rarest Asians
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Not even close. But I dont think we should give up either. And making it easier for people to get and do drugs, seems like giving up to me.

Apparently you think what San Francisco and Portland are doing is working, because you're ok with doing it countrywide.

I'm trying to debate you Pete, but it's hard when you say that letting people out of prison is necessarily a good thing. You don't think a lot of people in prison, deserve to be there? Either to keep us safe from them, or to give a little justice to their victims?

So your solution is spend more to imprison addicts who’s numbers have consistently grown in the hope that we’ll get different results.
Pretty much the definition of insanity
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If you believe the government is giving out crack pipes, you are yourselves smoking crack, all the while tuned into right wing media. Only in this crazy new world does this nonsense make news.

If you believe the government is giving out crack pipes, you are yourselves smoking crack, all the while tuned into right wing media. Only in this crazy new world does this nonsense make news.

they give out needles, right? is this so different?
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"Republicans introduce "Hunter Act" to ban government funded crack pipes :smokin:

the explanation might be worse than the outrage....not sure why this is surprising, should probably make these kits available in Middle School Libraries

Snopes, a fact-checking site, was mocked by critics this week for rating reporting on the Biden administration's alleged funding of crack pipe distribution to drug users as "mostly false," while also admitting that "safer smoking kits" were required to be distributed as part of a Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) grant.

In a Tuesday piece claiming news reports "grossly misrepresented" details about the substance abuse harm reduction program, Snopes stuck with its "mostly false" rating by arguing it was inaccurate to say that the distribution of the "smoking kits" was intended to "advance racial equity," but admitted that the pipes would be distributed with race as "a secondary consideration."

The grant program, overseen by HHS, would help make drug use safer for addicts by providing funds to nonprofits and local governments. The grant includes funds for "smoking kits/supplies," and, according to a spokesman for the agency, the kits "will provide pipes for users to smoke crack cocaine, crystal methamphetamine, and ‘any illicit substance.’"

"Applicants for the grants are prioritized if they treat a majority of ‘underserved communities,’ including African Americans and ‘LGBTQ+ persons,’ as established under President Joe Biden's executive order on ‘advancing racial equity.’"

"In 2022, a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services substance abuse harm reduction grant did require recipients to provide safer smoking kits to existing drug users. In distributing grants, priority would be given to applicants serving historically underserved communities," Snopes wrote in its fact-check.

the explanation might be worse than the outrage....not sure why this is surprising, should probably make these kits available in Middle School Libraries

Snopes, a fact-checking site, was mocked by critics this week for rating reporting on the Biden administration's alleged funding of crack pipe distribution to drug users as "mostly false," while also admitting that "safer smoking kits" were required to be distributed as part of a Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) grant.

In a Tuesday piece claiming news reports "grossly misrepresented" details about the substance abuse harm reduction program, Snopes stuck with its "mostly false" rating by arguing it was inaccurate to say that the distribution of the "smoking kits" was intended to "advance racial equity," but admitted that the pipes would be distributed with race as "a secondary consideration."

The grant program, overseen by HHS, would help make drug use safer for addicts by providing funds to nonprofits and local governments. The grant includes funds for "smoking kits/supplies," and, according to a spokesman for the agency, the kits "will provide pipes for users to smoke crack cocaine, crystal methamphetamine, and ‘any illicit substance.’"

"Applicants for the grants are prioritized if they treat a majority of ‘underserved communities,’ including African Americans and ‘LGBTQ+ persons,’ as established under President Joe Biden's executive order on ‘advancing racial equity.’"

"In 2022, a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services substance abuse harm reduction grant did require recipients to provide safer smoking kits to existing drug users. In distributing grants, priority would be given to applicants serving historically underserved communities," Snopes wrote in its fact-check.

“we love blacks so much, that we’ll pay young black girls to have babies, and give them a bonus to have those babies with no dad around, because that always works out so well. but because we don’t want TOO many of them, we’ll put an abortion clinic on every corner
in their neighborhoods. Furthermore, because we also don’t want them in school with our children, we ( the ones who never stop calling ourselves pro choice) will deny them school choice. Finally, to keep them from from improving their lives at all, we will give them needles and crack pipes to keep them addicted.”.
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“we love blacks so much, that we’ll pay young black girls to have babies, and give them a bonus to have those babies with no dad around, because that always works out so well. but because we don’t want TOO many of them, we’ll put an abortion clinic on every corner
in their neighborhoods. Furthermore, because we also don’t want them in school with our children, we ( the ones who never stop calling ourselves pro choice) will deny them school choice. Finally, to keep them from from improving their lives at all, we will give them needles and crack pipes to keep them addicted.”.
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Quoting the Republican base?
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you just need to spend a little time reading about San Francisco and their success handling drug and homelessness problems....I think the Mayor just declared another state of emergency there....

Quoting the Republican base?
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you tell me which of those things i listed, that liberals don’t advocate for. what was i wrong about? what did i make up?

do democrats not advocate for abortion, advocate against school choice,,advocate to send cash to teenage mothers, advocate to hand out drug accessories?

go ahead. tell us i’ll which of those things, liberals don’t actually advocate for.
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Even the most conservative cities in the US have problems with homelessness.
But they aren’t as populous.
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you tell me which of those things i listed, that liberals don’t advocate for. what was i wrong about? what did i make up?

do democrats not advocate for abortion, advocate against school choice,,advocate to send cash to teenage mothers, advocate to hand out drug accessories?

go ahead. tell us i’ll which of those things, liberals don’t actually advocate for.
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Who were you quoting, or are you lying again?
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My favorite Bible story is when Jesus feeds the multitudes after administering a drug test to make sure they deserve food.
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they give out needles, right? is this so different?
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Once repellent to conservative politicians, needle exchanges are now being endorsed and legalized in Republican-controlled states.

At least four legislatures have considered bills to allow hypodermic needle exchanges, and two states, Georgia and Idaho, made them legal this year. In each of these states, the House and Senate are controlled by the GOP and the governor is a Republican.

Florida, Missouri, Iowa and Arizona have introduced bills this legislative session that would allow needle exchanges in their state. The measures were all sponsored or co-sponsored by Republicans.


The Biden administration is going to be sending crack pipes and meth pipes, targeting minority communities,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said in a video message.


It’s a black thing white use heroin black use heroin let’s allow needle exchanges

crack pipes I guess only blacks use them . So let’s show them we are with them ! But won’t enable their habit

Republicans hypocrisy at its finest
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you just need to spend a little time reading about San Francisco and their success handling drug and homelessness problems....I think the Mayor just declared another state of emergency there....

I know right San Francisco and Chicago the only to cities in the our country of 300 million have drug or gun violence issues

You are very a good at parroting GOP talking points , but once again the facts get in your way.
red states win again. ( and it’s not crack or the blacks in cities or not driving those deaths ) it’s a National problem


Top 10 states with overdose deaths

West Virginia: 41.5 per 100,000 people
New Hampshire: 34.3 per 100,000 people
Kentucky: 29.9 per 100,000 people
Ohio: 29.9 per 100,000 people
Rhode Island: 28.2 per 100,000 people
Pennsylvania: 26.3 per 100,000 people
Massachusetts: 25.7 per 100,000 people
New Mexico: 25.3 per 100,000 people
Utah: 23.4 per 100,000 people
Tennessee: 22.2 per 100,000 people
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Once repellent to conservative politicians, needle exchanges are now being endorsed and legalized in Republican-controlled states.

At least four legislatures have considered bills to allow hypodermic needle exchanges, and two states, Georgia and Idaho, made them legal this year. In each of these states, the House and Senate are controlled by the GOP and the governor is a Republican.

Florida, Missouri, Iowa and Arizona have introduced bills this legislative session that would allow needle exchanges in their state. The measures were all sponsored or co-sponsored by Republicans.


The Biden administration is going to be sending crack pipes and meth pipes, targeting minority communities,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said in a video message.


It’s a black thing white use heroin black use heroin let’s allow needle exchanges

crack pipes I guess only blacks use them . So let’s show them we are with them ! But won’t enable their habit

Republicans hypocrisy at its finest
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“crack pipes i guess only blacks use them.”

Oh FFS just in the last two days you posted that crack was primarily a black problem. But when i say the same thing you attack it.

Which is it?
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This sums it up

For about a decade, the majority of people who died from overdoses were white, and the discussion around drug policy has centered on prescription opioids. White middle-class people in addiction have been framed as victims of pharmaceutical companies that got them “hooked.” The narrative about Black people who used drugs during the crack crisis of the 1980s and ’90s was very different, implying that their drug use was a criminal and moral failure.


no one in the state gave a #^&#^&#^&#^& about…crack it was inner city problem

Then came oxy’s and guess what it started killing white kids
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those are your words. obviously, you’re saying crack is primarily a black problem.

Then when i say the same thing, you claim I’m wrong.

It’s very difficult to take you seriously. You’re humiliating yourself because you can’t just admit that maybe i was right on one thing, one time.

Also, you cannot refute me, by pointing to republicans who disagree with me. Unlike you, i can say that my side does a lot of stupid things. Unlike you, I don’t have to agree with my side on every single, solitary issue.

I never said that there’s no such thing as a republican who advocated for needle exchanges. But it’s mostly a liberal idea. And everyone who agrees with it, whether they’re a liberal or a conservative, is next-generation stupid.

Anyway, we’d all love to hear your explanation on why you flip-flopped so completely on blacks and crack, in the blink of an eye.

It’s fine when you say crack is mostly a black problem. But when Insay it, I’m an idiot.

Have fun with that.

wdmso: no one cares about crack because it was blacks…

jim: handing out crack pipes is bad for blacks…

wdmso: oh, you think only blacks do crack?

Do you not see the lack of logic there wayne?
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those are your words. obviously, you’re saying crack is primarily a black problem.

Then when i say the same thing, you claim I’m wrong.

It’s very difficult to take you seriously. You’re humiliating yourself because you can’t just admit that maybe i was right on one thing, one time.

Also, you cannot refute me, by pointing to republicans who disagree with me. Unlike you, i can say that my side does a lot of stupid things. Unlike you, I don’t have to agree with my side on every single, solitary issue.

I never said that there’s no such thing as a republican who advocated for needle exchanges. But it’s mostly a liberal idea. And everyone who agrees with it, whether they’re a liberal or a conservative, is next-generation stupid.

Anyway, we’d all love to hear your explanation on why you flip-flopped so completely on blacks and crack, in the blink of an eye.

It’s fine when you say crack is mostly a black problem. But when Insay it, I’m an idiot.

Have fun with that.

wdmso: no one cares about crack because it was blacks…

jim: handing out crack pipes is bad for blacks…

wdmso: oh, you think only blacks do crack?

Do you not see the lack of logic there wayne?
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The intelligent thing apparently is that addicts deserve to get more diseases.

As far as meth and crack being black issues, Y’all ain’t never been to Appalachia have ya?
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The intelligent thing apparently is that addicts deserve to get more diseases.

As far as meth and crack being black issues, Y’all ain’t never been to Appalachia have ya?
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they need help. i don’t think it’s productive to make it easier to do drugs

i’m wondering, multiple
people here have asked you to comment on what san francisco and portland look like. is there a particular reason you refuse to comment on that?

it’s an interesting sounding theory, to hand out needles and crack pipes. but we don’t need to speculate, because there are places that coddle druggies, and we can see what the results are.

Liberals are, in general, not persuaded by results or empirical data. once they decide something is a good idea, they will never be convinced otherwise, no matter how clear the results are that it’s just not a good idea.
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they need help. i don’t think it’s productive to make it easier to do drugs

i’m wondering, multiple
people here have asked you to comment on what san francisco and portland look like. is there a particular reason you refuse to comment on that?

it’s an interesting sounding theory, to hand out needles and crack pipes. but we don’t need to speculate, because there are places that coddle druggies, and we can see what the results are.

Liberals are, in general, not persuaded by results or empirical data. once they decide something is a good idea, they will never be convinced otherwise, no matter how clear the results are that it’s just not a good idea.
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Drugs are not a problem confined to liberals, haven’t you seen Don Jr

Look a few posts above
Conservative states are far from immune, you think the states in Appalachia are a liberal bastion?
You just don’t hear about it in right wing media
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The intelligent thing apparently is that addicts deserve to get more diseases.

As far as meth and crack being black issues, Y’all ain’t never been to Appalachia have ya?
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so you’re denying that crack disproportionately effects blacks?

so when all the liberals said crack laws were racist because those laws disproportionately impacted blacks, they were all wrong?

see, you boxed yourself into a corner. in your mind, every single thing i say, must be wrong. but it was liberals who convinced me that crack was especially hard on blacks,

so if you’re saying I’m wrong, you’re also saying that a huge number of liberals are also wrong.
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The intelligent thing apparently is that addicts deserve to get more diseases.

As far as meth and crack being black issues, Y’all ain’t never been to Appalachia have ya?
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y’all never heard of the ACLU, have ya?

Here, the ACLU makes it clear that blacks disproportionately use crack, whites disproportionately use powder cocaine, therefore tougher sentencing for crack hurts blacks.

Pete, are you saying the ACLU ( who are saying the same thing I’m saying) are wrong?

Looking forward to that answer.

https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/pdfs/drugpolicy/cracksinsystem_20061025.pdf
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Guess you could just ask Mike Lindell
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Guess you could just ask Mike Lindell
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let’s ask him if handing out needles and crack pipes is a good idea, i bet he’s be in a good place to know.

he beat addiction, and became a billionaire, creating god knows how many jobs. i say good for him.

and you completely avoided my post.

once again, does crack disproportionately impact blacks? yes or no?

do you EVER get tired of being wrong?
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those are your words. obviously, you’re saying crack is primarily a black problem.

Then when i say the same thing, you claim I’m wrong.

It’s very difficult to take you seriously. You’re humiliating yourself because you can’t just admit that maybe i was right on one thing, one time.

Also, you cannot refute me, by pointing to republicans who disagree with me. Unlike you, i can say that my side does a lot of stupid things. Unlike you, I don’t have to agree with my side on every single, solitary issue.

I never said that there’s no such thing as a republican who advocated for needle exchanges. But it’s mostly a liberal idea. And everyone who agrees with it, whether they’re a liberal or a conservative, is next-generation stupid.

Anyway, we’d all love to hear your explanation on why you flip-flopped so completely on blacks and crack, in the blink of an eye.

It’s fine when you say crack is mostly a black problem. But when Insay it, I’m an idiot.

Have fun with that.

wdmso: no one cares about crack because it was blacks…

jim: handing out crack pipes is bad for blacks…

wdmso: oh, you think only blacks do crack?

Do you not see the lack of logic there wayne?
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The narrative about Black people who used drugs during the crack crisis of the 1980s and ’90s was very different, implying that their drug use was a criminal and moral failure.


That wasn’t my position that’s the conservatives position then and now

The only one embarrassing themself is you

You can’t follow can you ? You have no historical view or experience in addiction. You are just regurgitation machine of conservatives talking points

Anything forward looking in your world is of course next-generation stupid.

Conservatives are all peddlers on a stationary Bike complaining that nothings changing

Because every past program to attack addiction has such a great track record ..

AA and NA are still the best tools to fight addiction
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“crack pipes i guess only blacks use them.”

Oh FFS just in the last two days you posted that crack was primarily a black problem. But when i say the same thing you attack it.

Which is it?
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The Biden administration is going to be sending crack pipes and meth pipes, targeting minority communities,” Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said in a video message.


It’s a black thing white use heroin black use heroin let’s allow needle exchanges

crack pipes I guess only blacks use them .

Clearly that was sarcasm

against what Marco said

but like humor you don’t get it
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That wasn’t my position that’s the conservatives position then and now



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yes it was your position yesterday. you said no one cared about crack, then oxy came along and white kids were dying and people cared. which means that non-white kids were predominantly the ones dying before.

I posted a study from the ACLU which clearly shows it was predominantly a black issue. is the ACLU wrong?

“drug use was a moral failure.”

drug use IS a moral failure. when you freely choose to take drugs for the first time, you’re being an unbelievable moron. everyone knows the dangers. becoming an addict is a disease that no one chooses. but every single person makes a free choice to use it the first time. and you deserve to be ridiculed for making such a profoundly stupid choice.

“you have no experience in addiction”.


except my brother being a raging alcoholic who has struggled
mightily his entire adult life, i’ve been to at least 30 AA meetings with him. and dragged him to rehab several times, paid his mortgage and heating bills God knows how many times, prayed for him god knows how many times, called his sponsors god knows how many times, cried like a baby for him god knows how many times.

Never once, did it ever occur to me, that i could help him by making it easier for him to drink.

Wayne, you struggle with simple and straightforward facts that are right in front of you. You’re wrong about what you yourself said yesterday! Stop trying to assume things about me. You stink at it.

“every past program to treat addiction has a great track record.”

how’s the track record for places that coddle and enable addicts? is that working in san francisco and portland?

Can you please, please address that question?
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If your brother was addicted to narcotics, do you think he would be better off with aids and hepatitis?
We’re not talking about buying them their drug of choice, just giving them a chance to make it through without a compounding issue.
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If your brother was addicted to narcotics, do you think he would be better off with aids and hepatitis?
We’re not talking about buying them their drug of choice, just giving them a chance to make it through without a compounding issue.
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non he’s not better off with aids or hepatitis.

but the best solution is to get him off drugs, and tough live is still love.

Here’s my question. how is coding drug addicts working in san francisco and portland? are you denying that enabling drug addicts can lead to more drug addicts?
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non he’s not better off with aids or hepatitis.

but the best solution is to get him off drugs, and tough live is still love.

Here’s my question. how is coding drug addicts working in san francisco and portland? are you denying that enabling drug addicts can lead to more drug addicts?
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Doesn’t sound like tough love is a miraculous cure to me, it’s a long tough uncertain road no matter how you look at it.

Treating addiction is proven to reduce the number of addicts.
Are you seriously claiming that providing needles to addicts encourages people to become addicts?
Really?
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Doesn’t sound like tough love is a miraculous cure to me, it’s a long tough uncertain road no matter how you look at it.

Treating addiction is proven to reduce the number of addicts.
Are you seriously claiming that providing needles to addicts encourages people to become addicts?
Really?
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i never said tough love is a miraculous cure. there is no silver bullet.

i asked you 3 or 4 times if coding them is the answer, why is San Francisco turning into a pile
of raw sewage?

you won’t answer, because you know you can’t answer without showing that i have a point.

. what does it say about the utter flimsiness of your beliefs, that you are scared sh*tless by such a simple and obvious question? you can’t even come close to answering. what does that tell you?

we don’t have to speculate. coddling druggies has been tried. the results are in. you want your neighborhood to look like San Francisco and Portland?
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i never said tough love is a miraculous cure. there is no silver bullet.

i asked you 3 or 4 times if coding them is the answer, why is San Francisco turning into a pile
of raw sewage?

you won’t answer, because you know you can’t answer without showing that i have a point.

. what does it say about the utter flimsiness of your beliefs, that you are scared sh*tless by such a simple and obvious question? you can’t even come close to answering. what does that tell you?

we don’t have to speculate. coddling druggies has been tried. the results are in. you want your neighborhood to look like San Francisco and Portland?
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You think that San Francisco or Portland isn’t a larger example of any city in the USA
Just what would you like to do to addicts, the mentally I’ll and other homeless people.
Explain your magic cure, I’m sure most Americans would love to see how your magnificent brilliance proposes to solve this, we’ve all been waiting for the simple solution.
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You think that San Francisco or Portland isn’t a larger example of any city in the USA
Just what would you like to do to addicts, the mentally I’ll and other homeless people.
Explain your magic cure, I’m sure most Americans would love to see how your magnificent brilliance proposes to solve this, we’ve all been waiting for the simple solution.
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What you meant to say is, San Francisco looks like every liberal city. And you’re probably right.

solution?

tough love. Seal the border right. Impose brutal sentences for mid to upper level drug dealers. confiscate every cent they have and use it to open treatment centers. Drug addicts, maybe after a warning or two, get to choose between rehab, prison, or the military.

Also policies that encourages rather than attacks in tact families, encourage rather than mock faith, stop saying “if it feels good, do it”, which is the liberal motto.

start spreading the message that traditional family values might seem
corny in San Fransisco, but that’s how you produce kids who become Eagle Scouts and black belts instead of drug addicts.

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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yes it was your position yesterday. you said no one cared about crack, then oxy came along and white kids were dying and people cared. which means that non-white kids were predominantly the ones dying before.

I posted a study from the ACLU which clearly shows it was predominantly a black issue. is the ACLU wrong?

“drug use was a moral failure.”

drug use IS a moral failure. when you freely choose to take drugs for the first time, you’re being an unbelievable moron. everyone knows the dangers. becoming an addict is a disease that no one chooses. but every single person makes a free choice to use it the first time. and you deserve to be ridiculed for making such a profoundly stupid choice.

“you have no experience in addiction”.


except my brother being a raging alcoholic who has struggled
mightily his entire adult life, i’ve been to at least 30 AA meetings with him. and dragged him to rehab several times, paid his mortgage and heating bills God knows how many times, prayed for him god knows how many times, called his sponsors god knows how many times, cried like a baby for him god knows how many times.

Never once, did it ever occur to me, that i could help him by making it easier for him to drink.

Wayne, you struggle with simple and straightforward facts that are right in front of you. You’re wrong about what you yourself said yesterday! Stop trying to assume things about me. You stink at it.

“every past program to treat addiction has a great track record.”

how’s the track record for places that coddle and enable addicts? is that working in san francisco and portland?

Can you please, please address that question?
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having a brother being an alcoholic. ( is tough) and it a personal window into the horrible world of addiction. But that experience isn’t what I was referring to. Many of us have that experience or we know some one trapped in the circle of addiction, And it’s personal and these people are victims of addiction also .



.. Yet it seems it didn’t help you’re understanding of addiction . From a Treatment’s prospective, If you think his addiction is his moral failure or is that reserved for drug users ? and if you think needle exchange and safe injection sites
Or housing for addicts is some how to promote and encourage drug usage

The Treatment and the message for addiction is simple don’t use don’t drink . but the path to get these people to accept the message is much harder

So in a nut shell the use CRACK PIPE by Republicans was targeting Blacks , not meth pipe , not weed pipe , but Crack

And also Jim your crusade That the Dems are targeting blacks to get Abortions is more regurgitate talking points by guess who

Antiabortion activists, including some African-American pastors, have been waging a campaign around this fact, falsely asserting that the disparity is the result of aggressive marketing by abortion providers Aka Dems to minority communities.

These activists are exploiting and distorting the facts to serve their antiabortion agenda. They ignore the fundamental reason women have abortions and the underlying problem of racial and ethnic disparities across an array of health indicators. The truth is that behind virtually every abortion is an unintended pregnancy. This applies to all women—black, white, Hispanic, Asian and Native American alike.


https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2008/08/abortion-and-women-color-bigger-picture

Michigan
New York
Indiana
Illinois
North Carolina
California
Pennsylvania
Tennessee
Ohio
Florida

Top 10 meth user states seems the R win again

What you meant to say is, San Francisco looks like every liberal city. And you’re probably right.

solution?

tough love. Seal the border right. Impose brutal sentences for mid to upper level drug dealers. confiscate every cent they have and use it to open treatment centers. Drug addicts, maybe after a warning or two, get to choose between rehab, prison, or the military.

Also policies that encourages rather than attacks in tact families, encourage rather than mock faith, stop saying “if it feels good, do it”, which is the liberal motto.

start spreading the message that traditional family values might seem
corny in San Fransisco, but that’s how you produce kids who become Eagle Scouts and black belts instead of drug addicts.

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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https://apnews.com/article/health-salt-lake-city-us-news-ap-top-news-ut-state-wire-ce51cf7c958643629bce76764f71058d
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What you meant to say is, San Francisco looks like every liberal city. And you’re probably right.

solution?

tough love. Seal the border right. Impose brutal sentences for mid to upper level drug dealers. confiscate every cent they have and use it to open treatment centers. Drug addicts, maybe after a warning or two, get to choose between rehab, prison, or the military.

Also policies that encourages rather than attacks in tact families, encourage rather than mock faith, stop saying “if it feels good, do it”, which is the liberal motto.

start spreading the message that traditional family values might seem
corny in San Fransisco, but that’s how you produce kids who become Eagle Scouts and black belts instead of drug addicts.

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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Jim your cure for addiction follows the conservatives and religious mantra of the demise of the American Family , who think a return to the days of leave it beaver separate beds home bound women and the man working 9-5 and church on Sunday and morals is the answer

I am sure it wouldn’t hurt but that ships sailed in the 1960s


I suggest anyone should watch wine and roses 1962 it was relative then and is today

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.
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The “war on drugs” started on June 18, 1971
And a trillion dollars later, it failed miserably.
But you want to carry on.
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And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.

Republicans never ever Try something. Jim. Because they are afraid it will fail miserably like mass incarceration.

As of July 2021, the United States had the highest number of incarcerated individuals worldwide, with almost 2.1 million people in prison.

And Republicans are still yelling lock them up or blaming Democratic’s for a rise in crime even in states where no laws have been changed

Criminals and murders do not factor in penalties in their decisions they are no rational people to start with

And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.

Republicans never ever Try something. Jim. Because they are afraid it will fail miserably like mass incarceration.

As of July 2021, the United States had the highest number of incarcerated individuals worldwide, with almost 2.1 million people in prison.

And Republicans are still yelling lock them up or blaming Democratic’s for a rise in crime even in states where no laws have been changed

Criminals and murders do not factor in penalties in their decisions they are no rational people to start with

i could write an entire sitcom with the demonstrably false, incoherent, partisan, nonsensical gibberish in that one post.
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And here’s something liberals could really, really stand to learn. When you try something and it fails miserably, just admit it and then fix it.

Liberals never, ever do that.

Republicans never ever Try something. Jim. Because they are afraid it will fail miserably like mass incarceration.

As of July 2021, the United States had the highest number of incarcerated individuals worldwide, with almost 2.1 million people in prison.

And Republicans are still yelling lock them up or blaming Democratic’s for a rise in crime even in states where no laws have been changed

Criminals and murders do not factor in penalties in their decisions they are no rational people to start with

"Republicans never ever Try something. Jim. "

Newt Gingrich didn't convince Bill Clinton to cut taxes and pay for it with welfare reform, resulting in the last federal surplus probably ever, and helping to usher in a decade of prosperity. Didn't happen, right?

George W Bush didn't spearhead his "Emergency Plan For Aids Relief Africa:, which liberal Stanford University says saved over one million lives in Africa. Bush did more for Africa, than any human being who has ever lived. And I'd bet everything that you have no idea it ever happened, because you don't like that he has an "R" after his name.

Go ahead and tell us Stanford is wrong. You know more. Didn't happen, right?

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2009/04/stanford-study-first-ever-to-show-u-s-aids-relief-saved-1-million-lives.html

Rudy Giuliani didn't make HUGE strides in reducing violent crime in NYC? According to politifact, murder and robbery were down two-thirds during his tenure.

Didn't happen, right?

https://www.politifact.com/article/2007/sep/01/how-much-credit-giuliani-due-fighting-crime/

And then everybody's favorite, Trump. He didn't lower taxes, get black unemployment to its lowest level ever recorded, didn't get criminal justice reform (which liberals wanted yet Obama chose not to do for 8 years), didn't help create economic opportunity zones in the cities, didn't get overall unemployment to its lowest level in a generation.

Never happened, right?

Crime.

Wayne, democrats run the federal government right now, and as a direct result of that, crime is out of control in many places. Americans see it, which is one reason why despite Biden's economic success, his polling is in the bottom of the toilet.

The 1990s crime bill, which did cause a lot of incarceration, you know who wrote it? Joe Biden. Joe Biden wrote it.

It caused a lot of incarceration. But guess what, Einstein? People in prison, aren't out hurting innocent civilians. So while all those people were locked up, crime decreased.

You just don't get it. Liberals just don't get it. Locking up criminals, cannot fail to reduce crime. Why is that so complicated? You worked in a prison, and you still don't get that?

As of May 2021, the United States had the highest prisoner rate in the world, with 639 prisoners per 100,000 of the national population.
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“we love blacks so much, that we’ll pay young black girls to have babies, and give them a bonus to have those babies with no dad around, because that always works out so well. but because we don’t want TOO many of them, we’ll put an abortion clinic on every corner
in their neighborhoods. Furthermore, because we also don’t want them in school with our children, we ( the ones who never stop calling ourselves pro choice) will deny them school choice. Finally, to keep them from from improving their lives at all, we will give them needles and crack pipes to keep them addicted.”.
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Who’s your source?
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Who’s your source?
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i didn’t attribute that to “the democratic base.

i can admit i made that up. Based on an accurate summary of liberal policies toward blacks

time was, democrats used public policy to control blacks on plantations. Today, democrats use public policy to control blacks in disgusting urban cities. We substituted cotton fields for urban blight and failing sh*thole schools
and a staggering, crippling, mind-blowing fatherlessness rate.

but unlike others, i’m not going to lie and say that democrats actually said that. but it’s what they do.

Make that wrong.
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As of May 2021, the United States had the highest prisoner rate in the world, with 639 prisoners per 100,000 of the national population.
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Stop posting demonstrably false, incoherent, partisan, nonsensical gibberish

The only path forward for conservatives is pounding a square peg into a round hole !

Because admission of failure isn’t allowed

Like Trump won the election or there was voter fraud or Jan 6th was an insurrection


Just look how they support the white Canada Truckers blocking highways a vocal minority yell freedom and Covid .

Anti-Protest Conservatives Sure Do Love the Trucker Blockade Causing ‘Deep Pain’ to American Companies

But if BLM or any liberals block a road or highway all the comments are just run them over

Fox News, Daily Caller delete posts encouraging people to drive through protests

Conservatives have no historical memory they have integrity amnesia
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But if BLM or any liberals block a road or highway all the comments are just run them over



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Conservatives would say the truckers have a point, as conservatives as a rule, aren't big fans of mandates.

BLM doesn't have a point. It was literally founded on a complete lie ("hands up, don't shoot", which Brown never said), there's absolutely no data to suggest that police have waged war against American blacks. And BLM explicitly says they're in favor of attacking the nuclear family, when that's literally the exact opposite thing that any pro-black person should be saying.

Finally, the truckers aren't looting, burning down stores, or murdering people. Unlike BLM and Antifa.

i didn’t attribute that to “the democratic base.

i can admit i made that up. Based on an accurate summary of liberal policies toward blacks

time was, democrats used public policy to control blacks on plantations. Today, democrats use public policy to control blacks in disgusting urban cities. We substituted cotton fields for urban blight and failing sh*thole schools
and a staggering, crippling, mind-blowing fatherlessness rate.

but unlike others, i’m not going to lie and say that democrats actually said that. but it’s what they do.

Make that wrong.
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You never miss a right wing trope
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You never miss a right wing trope
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i agree it’s right wing.

What about it, was wrong?

I’ll wait.
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i agree it’s right wing.

What about it, was wrong?

I’ll wait.
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All, start with this
Following the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the core bases of the two parties shifted, with the Southern states becoming more reliably Republican in presidential politics and the Northeastern states becoming more reliably Democratic.
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All, start with this
Following the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the core bases of the two parties shifted, with the Southern states becoming more reliably Republican in presidential politics and the Northeastern states becoming more reliably Democratic.
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which disputes exactly nothing that was in my post.

republicans want blacks to get ahead.

democrats want to cripple blacks,,keep them addicted to
welfare, alive but utterly unable to escape poverty. keep them in the cities in lousy schools, pumping out babies with no dad around, creating a permanent underclass, but a reliable voting block.
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How about a quote from one of Nixon’s top advisors explaining their decision to launch the “War on Drugs.”
“You understand what I’m saying? We couldn’t make it illegal to be against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and the blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing them heavily, we could disrupt those communities.
We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings and vilify them on the nightly news.
Did we know we were lying about the drugs, of course we did.
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How about a quote from one of Nixon’s top advisors explaining their decision to launch the “War on Drugs.”
“You understand what I’m saying? We couldn’t make it illegal to be against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and the blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing them heavily, we could disrupt those communities.
We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings and vilify them on the nightly news.
Did we know we were lying about the drugs, of course we did.
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wow an unnamed Nixon advisor.

How about president Lyndon Johnson saying “I’ll have those n*ggers voting for Democrats for 200 years”?

Pete, look at what i posted above in terms of democrat policy impacting blacks. and tell me what i said, which is wrong.

all you can do, is respond to something i never said.

look at what each side says about school choice. At Trump’s SOTU, republicans were going berserk at the news of low black unemployment. Remember how the democrats reacted? They sat on their hands, scowling.

If they want blacks to succeed,, please explain why they were miserable at low black unemployment.
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wow an unnamed Nixon advisor.

How about president Lyndon Johnson saying “I’ll have those n*ggers voting for Democrats for 200 years”?

Pete, look at what i posted above in terms of democrat policy impacting blacks. and tell me what i said, which is wrong.

all you can do, is respond to something i never said.

look at what each side says about school choice. At Trump’s SOTU, republicans were going berserk at the news of low black unemployment. Remember how the democrats reacted? They sat on their hands, scowling.

If they want blacks to succeed,, please explain why they were miserable at low black unemployment.
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Explain why Republicans sat and didn’t rejoice when Barack Obama was President
Explain why Republicans think that no black woman is qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice

Explain why there are roughly 100k elected positions in the U.S.
and Republicans announced that 40 Blacks are running as GOPers, that is closer to zero than to even 1%. It's more likely that you'll be struck by lightning than represented by a Black Republican.

And the spectacular halfime show sure did rattle the GOP incel crowd.
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Explain why Republicans think that no black woman is qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice
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again, what does it say that you cannot EVER answer the question that i asked?

no republican ever said that ( hearing voices again). what they’re saying, is that it’s wrong ( and obviously illegal) to ignore potentially better candidates based on gender and skin color

Lindsay Graham has come out and said that there’s one black woman a bunch or republicans would vote for.

I dare you to post evidence that any influential republican said that no black roman is qualified.
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no republican ever said that ( hearing voices again). what they’re saying, is that it’s wrong ( and obviously illegal) to ignore potentially better candidates based on gender and skin color


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Did they say that when Trump said he would only pick a candidate approved by the Federalist Society?

Did they say that when Trump said he would only pick a candidate approved by the Federalist Society?

yeah, it would probably be wrong to discriminate based on whether or not a judge is a Constitutionalist or not when nominating one for the Supreme Court

Explain why Republicans think that no black woman is qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice
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again, what does it say that you cannot EVER answer the question that i asked?

no republican ever said that ( hearing voices again). what they’re saying, is that it’s wrong ( and obviously illegal) to ignore potentially better candidates based on gender and skin color

Lindsay Graham has come out and said that there’s one black woman a bunch or republicans would vote for.

I dare you to post evidence that any influential republican said that no black roman is qualified.
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Jim keep convincing yourself Republicans push back against a Black SJC pick is about “ a better candidate “

Just like changing for voter laws were for “ election integrity “ even in states Trump won. More like they are afraid of Turn out.

Texas counties reject unprecedented numbers of mail ballots ahead of March 1 primary under restrictive new law

To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

be 65 years or older;
be sick or disabled;
be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance; or
be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

These must be the fraudsters Texas is after , most over 65 I would bet vote Republican
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again, what does it say that you cannot EVER answer the question that i asked?

no republican ever said that ( hearing voices again). what they’re saying, is that it’s wrong ( and obviously illegal) to ignore potentially better candidates based on gender and skin color

Lindsay Graham has come out and said that there’s one black woman a bunch or republicans would vote for.

I dare you to post evidence that any influential republican said that no black roman is qualified.
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Jim keep convincing yourself Republicans push back against a Black SJC pick is about “ a better candidate “

Just like changing for voter laws were for “ election integrity “ even in states Trump won. More like they are afraid of Turn out.

Texas counties reject unprecedented numbers of mail ballots ahead of March 1 primary under restrictive new law

To be eligible to vote early by mail in Texas, you must:

be 65 years or older;
be sick or disabled;
be out of the county on election day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance; or
be expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day; or
be confined in jail, but otherwise eligible.

These must be the fraudsters Texas is after , most over 65 I would bet vote Republican
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i answered that question exactly as it was asked. i’m
sorry if you couldn’t comprehend it, but here is the answer again….no influential republican ever said that. To repeat, no influential republican said anything close to what pete claimed they are saying.

If there’s a highly qualified black female candidate, fine. buts it’s discrimination to say ahead of time that you’re excluding a huge number of people based on skin color and gender. How is that not discrimination?
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Every black candidate was eliminated from the list until 1967 and the same baloney was claimed then, much like 81 when the first woman was nominated.
There’s plenty of candidates more qualified than Kavanaugh or Barrett unless you can only pick from the Federalist Society list.
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Every black candidate was eliminated from the list until 1967
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and by what logic do we punish white men today, for the fact that democrats prevented blacks from getting ahead for so long?

if a white male judge alive today, happens to be a descendent of someone who was killed fighting for the north in the civil
war, how on earth could
you conclude that he is responsible for the sins of the past?

you, and your liberal ilk, are talking about “collective guilt”, the idea that everyone who looks like past criminals, is guilty for what the criminal did.

That’s the exact opposite of the foundation of our system of justice.

Why not an asian woman? We have a black in the court, but we have no Asians. Why is that?
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You can feel guilty if you want.

The right wing’s infatuation with white grievance and increasing attraction to civil unrest at the expense of ordinary Americans is leading the GOP to increasingly perverse positions. Now, Republicans and their media cohorts root for economic distress, violence and disorder.
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no republican ever said that ( hearing voices again). what they’re saying, is that it’s wrong ( and obviously illegal) to ignore potentially better candidates based on gender and skin color


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I'll ask again. Did they say that when Trump said he would only pick a candidate approved by the Federalist Society?

And how about when Reagan said he would only pick a woman? Was it obviously illegal then?

I'll ask again. Did they say that when Trump said he would only pick a candidate approved by the Federalist Society?

And how about when Reagan said he would only pick a woman? Was it obviously illegal then?

saying you’ll pick one that conservatives will like, is a little different than saying your pick will be a certain gender and color.

does any president pick one whose politics aren’t similar to the presidents?

i was a tad young when reagan made that announcement. but it was a stupid thing for him to declare. it’s blatantly unconstitutional.

You asked this already, and I gave the same answer, which answers your question as it was asked, and is consistent with my view on Biden. If you'd care to ask the same question again, perhaps you can flag my response here and just refer back to it, that'll save us both some time.

Picking someone of a certain gender or race for political reasons (like Trump picking Barrett) is one thing. Declaring way ahead of time that only one race/gender will be considered, is something else. It's stupid when Reagan did it, and it's stupid fo Biden to do it.

Does anyone here, or on Bidens team, ask themselves why his approval ratings are where they are?


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saying you’ll pick one that conservatives will like, is a little different than saying your pick will be a certain gender and color.

does any president pick one whose politics aren’t similar to the presidents?

i was a tad young when reagan
made that announcement. but it was a stupid thing for him to declare. it’s blatantly unconstitutional.
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The Constitution does not set any qualifications for service as a Justice, thus the President may nominate any individual to serve on the Court.

But obviously conservatism is the principle that in groups are protected but not bound by law and out groups are not protected but bound.

Because, originalism…….

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The Constitution does not set any qualifications for service as a Justice, thus the President may nominate any individual to serve on the Court.

But obviously conservatism is the principle that in groups are protected but not bound by law and out groups are not protected but bound.

Because, originalism…….

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i’ll make it as simple as i can…

if it’s ok for Biden to say white men can’t apply for this job, it’s equally ok for someone else to say that blacks can’t apply for another job.

Unless whites are not equal
to blacks.
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i’ll make it as simple as i can…

if it’s ok for Biden to say white men can’t apply for this job, it’s equally ok for someone else to say that blacks can’t apply for another job.

Unless whites are not equal
to blacks.
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There are two types of people in this country.

1. People who see opportunities for minority populations as progress that makes us proud.

2. People who see minority populations gaining equality as a threat.

Group 1 are Americans.
Group 2 are Republicans.
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There are two types of people in this country.

1. People who see opportunities for minority populations as progress that makes us proud.

2. People who see minority populations gaining equality as a threat.

Group 1 are Americans.
Group 2 are Republicans.
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Right. That's why Republicans are in favor of school choice, and why democrats hate school choice. This is why Republicans make the case for the benefit of intact families, and why liberals incentivize fatherlessness.

Second time, why did Democrats get so miserable when Republicans were celebrating the lowest black unemployment ever? If what you posted is even a little bit true, wouldn't congressional democrats celebrate that?

For Gods sake, even the congressional black caucus acted like someone just ran over their dog. Even they couldn't celebrate that. Because democrats care about winning, not about blacks getting ahead.

All you have is hyper-partisan nonsense Pete. Things that make great bumper stickers for thoughtless liberal livestock, but which are laughable.

saying you’ll pick one that conservatives will like, is a little different than saying your pick will be a certain gender and color.

does any president pick one whose politics aren’t similar to the presidents?

i was a tad young when reagan made that announcement. but it was a stupid thing for him to declare. it’s blatantly unconstitutional.

You asked this already, and I gave the same answer, which answers your question as it was asked, and is consistent with my view on Biden. If you'd care to ask the same question again, perhaps you can flag my response here and just refer back to it, that'll save us both some time.

Picking someone of a certain gender or race for political reasons (like Trump picking Barrett) is one thing. Declaring way ahead of time that only one race/gender will be considered, is something else. It's stupid when Reagan did it, and it's stupid fo Biden to do it.

Does anyone here, or on Bidens team, ask themselves why his approval ratings are where they are?


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Trump said he would pick someone "choosen" by the Federalist society. Reagan said a woman. You and your ilk (I think that is a scummy word but one you throw out there frequently so I'll use it) shows the hypocrisy of the Rs.

There are two types of people in this country.

1. People who see opportunities for minority populations as progress that makes us proud.

2. People who see minority populations gaining equality as a threat.

Group 1 are Americans.
Group 2 are Republicans.
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Exactly.

Right. That's why Republicans are in favor of school choice, Do you mean private schools?and why democrats hate school choice. This is why Republicans make the case for the benefit of intact families, and why liberals incentivize fatherlessness. You mean by increasing benefits for people who have more children?

Second time, why did Democrats get so miserable when Republicans were celebrating the lowest black unemployment ever? If what you posted is even a little bit true, wouldn't congressional democrats celebrate that?That is a lie. You always throw that out but when asked to explain what exactly Trump did for Blacks you say opportunity zone which were shown to have limited benefit to Blacks but more to the developers while ignoring the ways his policies are furthering racial segregation, not to mention stoking racial divisions and violence.

For Gods sake, even the congressional black caucus acted like someone just ran over their dog. Even they couldn't celebrate that. Because democrats care about winning, not about blacks getting ahead.

All you have is hyper-partisan nonsense Pete. That was funny. You're the most divisive person here Things that make great bumper stickers for thoughtless liberal livestock, but which are laughable.

At least you're good for a laugh here.

Right. That's why Republicans are in favor of school choice, and why democrats hate school choice. This is why Republicans make the case for the benefit of intact families, and why liberals incentivize fatherlessness.

Second time, why did Democrats get so miserable when Republicans were celebrating the lowest black unemployment ever? If what you posted is even a little bit true, wouldn't congressional democrats celebrate that?

For Gods sake, even the congressional black caucus acted like someone just ran over their dog. Even they couldn't celebrate that. Because democrats care about winning, not about blacks getting ahead.

All you have is hyper-partisan nonsense Pete. Things that make great bumper stickers for thoughtless liberal livestock, but which are laughable.

School choice is about moving my tax dollars to private institutions, just like for profit prisons.
Republicans claim to be for intact families but oppose any help that doesn’t have a cliff at the upper end.
Republicans consistently oppose healthcare reform, claiming that it will cost too much, but we already pay for it, I just want the money to pay for health care not an insurance executive's third mansion.
That the Republican Party thinks that a minuscule number of black candidates is worth bragging about should tell you all you need to know
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seems like paul and pete are hitting the crack pipe pretty hard....

leftists will be full racism till november...should be fun and uniting

School choice is about moving my tax dollars to private institutions, just like for profit prisons.
Republicans claim to be for intact families but oppose any help that doesn’t have a cliff at the upper end.
Republicans consistently oppose healthcare reform, claiming that it will cost too much, but we already pay for it, I just want the money to pay for health care not an insurance executive's third mansion.
That the Republican Party thinks that a minuscule number of black candidates is worth bragging about should tell you all you need to know
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In my case, it would be about "my" tax dollars, not "your" tax dollars. Liberals are adamantly opposed to my being able to choose which school I spend my tax dollars on.

Because they care about appeasing teachers unions, more than they care about helping poor black children achieve their dreams.

"Republicans consistently oppose healthcare reform"

Wrong. They just oppose Obamacare. Although even Trump says that covering pre-existing conditions (which I've always said is morally obvious) is a good idea.

You just make stuff up. Constantly.

"Republicans claim to be for intact families but oppose any help that doesn’t have a cliff at the upper end."

Tell me what bill that would have kept families intact, the republicans opposed because there wasn't a cliff at the end? Or did you just fabricate that to suit your narrative, too?

"That the Republican Party thinks that a minuscule number of black candidates is worth bragging about should tell you all you need to know "

You have Hank Johnson, who said that he was worried Guam would tip over if we built a base there, and that's exactly what he said. You can keep him, and Maxine Waters. We'll keep Tim Scott.

In my case, it would be about "my" tax dollars, not "your" tax dollars. Liberals are adamantly opposed to my being able to choose which school I spend my tax dollars on.

Because they care about appeasing teachers unions, more than they care about helping poor black children achieve their dreams.

"Republicans consistently oppose healthcare reform"

Wrong. They just oppose Obamacare. Although even Trump says that covering pre-existing conditions (which I've always said is morally obvious) is a good idea.

You just make stuff up. Constantly.

"Republicans claim to be for intact families but oppose any help that doesn’t have a cliff at the upper end."

Tell me what bill that would have kept families intact, the republicans opposed because there wasn't a cliff at the end? Or did you just fabricate that to suit your narrative, too?

"That the Republican Party thinks that a minuscule number of black candidates is worth bragging about should tell you all you need to know "

You have Hank Johnson, who said that he was worried Guam would tip over if we built a base there, and that's exactly what he said. You can keep him, and Maxine Waters. We'll keep Tim Scott.

If Jim gets to allocate his tax $s the way he see fit I guess we can all allocate our tax $s away from those failed Rs states with their outstretched hands saying "give us your $".

In my case, it would be about "my" tax dollars, not "your" tax dollars. Liberals are adamantly opposed to my being able to choose which school I spend my tax dollars on.

Because they care about appeasing teachers unions, more than they care about helping poor black children achieve their dreams.

"Republicans consistently oppose healthcare reform"

Wrong. They just oppose Obamacare. Although even Trump says that covering pre-existing conditions (which I've always said is morally obvious) is a good idea.

You just make stuff up. Constantly.

"Republicans claim to be for intact families but oppose any help that doesn’t have a cliff at the upper end."

Tell me what bill that would have kept families intact, the republicans opposed because there wasn't a cliff at the end? Or did you just fabricate that to suit your narrative, too?

"That the Republican Party thinks that a minuscule number of black candidates is worth bragging about should tell you all you need to know "

You have Hank Johnson, who said that he was worried Guam would tip over if we built a base there, and that's exactly what he said. You can keep him, and Maxine Waters. We'll keep Tim Scott.

Trump said but did absolutely nothing, that’s the usual Republican result.

Who’s the other black republican member of Congress?

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At least you're good for a laugh here.

"Do you mean private schools?"

Yes. Allowing inner city kids to choose private schools simply works, and it's wildly popular among people who would benefit. Unfortunately for those families, teachers unions tell democrats what to do in schools.

"you mean by increasing benefits for people who have more children?"

I mean handing out cash to people who have kids, and giving more cash when there's no husband in the picture.

Paul, when you tell people you'll pay them to have babies, and you'll pay them more if there's no husband than you'll pay them if there is a husband, what do you think is going to happen? Is it really hard to predict? I'm fine with giving poor parents subsidized food, diapers, formula, daycare, etc...Giving them cash, is a lucrative incentive to have children that you don't plan to take care of. We can all see the result of that.

"That is a lie"

You're saying I'm lying that democrats didn't celebrate low black unemployment at Trumps SOTU?

Here...go to the 1:00 mark or so, and you tell me I'm lying. The Congresional Black Caucus are all in their attire, all sitting there, miserable. Proof that they don't care about black well-being.

You tell me I'm not 100% correct there.

"what exactly Trump did for Blacks"

See if you can follow...He gave businesses massive incentive to hire. That helps people who aren't currently working, a disproportionate number of whom are black.

He also advocated for criminal justice reform (which liberals have wanted for many years, and which Obama chose not to deliver), increased funding for black colleges, advocated for school choice, things that disproportionately help blacks.

Blacks did great under Trump.

"You're the most divisive person here "

You have the ability to keep scrolling. Or to toughen up a little.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzy840rNMmU

"Do you mean private schools?"

Yes. Allowing inner city kids to choose private schools simply works, and it's wildly popular among people who would benefit. So I should pay taxes for schools but people who want to attend a private school should be subsidized by me also? Will those same families subsidize my gold membership or gym memborship?

"ou mean by increasing benefits for people who have more children?"

I mean handing out cash to people who have kids, and giving more cash when there's no husband in the picture.

Paul, when you tell people you'll pay them to have babies, and you'll pay them more if there's no husband than you'll pay them if there is a husband, what do you think is going to happen? Is it really hard to predict?Can you pls. show me an ad or a statement by any D. who has said we'll give you more cash if just have more babies? Bc I don't think that has ever been said.

"That is a lie"

You're saying I'm lying that democrats didn't celebrate low black unemployment at Trumps SOTU?Bc the know that didn't do much for "black unemployment" and that all unemployment went down as it continued a trend started bf Trump and that Black workers did not see employment levels ever go above the trend.

Here...go to the 1:00 mark or so, and you tell me I'm lying. The Congresional Black Caucus are all in their attire, all sitting there, miserable.

You tell me I'm not 100% correct there.

"what exactly Trump did for Blacks"

See if you can follow...He gave businesses massive incentive to hire. That helps people who aren't currently working, a disproportionate number of whom are black.See if you can follow - Everything that I read says that Black workers did not see employment levels ever go above the total trend. So if Black unemployment did not decrease % wise more than White unemployment, that means Trump did not do anything for Blacks than he did for Whites.

He also advocated for criminal justice reform, increased funding for black collegesNo he didn't. The bill was a 10-year renewal of funding. It was the same funding as was under Obama., things that help blacks.

Blacks did great under Trump.So, no they didn't

"You're the most divisive person here "

You have the ability to keep scrolling.Just want you to know how you and your ilk are so divisive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzy840rNMmU
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"So I should pay taxes for schools but people who want to attend a private school should be subsidized by me also? Will those same families subsidize my gold membership or gym memborship?"

You're paying taxes to send Hartford kids to crappy Hartford schools. You're paying anyway. Is it better for those kids for you to pay (and it's usually cheaper by the way) for them to go to a goos catholic school somewhere? I'm not saying raise your taxes to pay for that. I'm saying, instead of paying $19,000 a year to send those kids to lousy Hartford public schools, why not pay $5k a year to send them to a terrific catholic school (my little guys go to a catholic middle school, price tag is $5k a year). Not suggesting any new taxes, just diverting a portion of what we're already paying, to deliver a far superior product to kids who need it.

I think choice is a terrific idea. You'd rather doom those kids to failing sh*thole schools to make a political statement.

"Can you pls. show me an ad or a statement by any D. who has said we'll give you more cash if just have more babies? Bc I don't think that has ever been said."

Maybe it's never been said, but that's what welfare does. People on the take, figure it out. That's what the programs do. And the obvious side effect, is creating more fatherless kids.

Do you deny that welfare programs do this?

"Bc the know that didn't do much for "black unemployment"

Oh. So democrats only stand when the president is single-handedly responsible for the good result".

When Biden brags at his first SOTU about all the jobs created, will the democrats cheer? Did he personally create all those jobs? Or was the economy opening back up again before he was sworn in? Same with the stock market.

"So, no they didn't"

Please give me some meaningful measures by which black life didn't improve under Trump, compared to Obama.

We all know you guys all hate that blacks did well under Trump. But just because you can't stand it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

School choice is about moving my tax dollars to private institutions, just like for profit prisons.
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No it's not..:rolleyes:

School choice allows public education funds to follow students to the schools or services that best fit their needs —whether that’s to a public school, private school, charter school, home school or any other learning environment families choose.
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If Jim gets to allocate his tax $s the way he see fit I guess we can all allocate our tax $s away from those failed Rs states with their outstretched hands saying "give us your $".

Fine with me

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No it's not..:rolleyes:

School choice allows public education funds to follow students to the schools or services that best fit their needs —whether that’s to a public school, private school, charter school, home school or any other learning environment families choose.
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and it’s kind of ironic, that the left is so adamantly opposed to school
choice.

Yet on another issue, and i can’t quite put my finger on which issue it was, I’m almost certain I heard democrats refer to themselves as pro-choice

Not in this case, it would seem.

If we offered school choice, the public schools would get their act in order, in the next nanosecond. competition is good.
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"So I should pay taxes for schools but people who want to attend a private school should be subsidized by me also? Will those same families subsidize my gold membership or gym memborship?"

You're paying taxes to send Hartford kids to crappy Hartford schools. You're paying anyway. Is it better for those kids for you to pay (and it's usually cheaper by the way) for them to go to a goos catholic school somewhere? not if it hurts public schools. I'm not saying raise your taxes to pay for that. I'm saying, instead of paying $19,000 a year to send those kids to lousy Hartford public schools, why not pay $5k a year to send them to a terrific catholic school (my little guys go to a catholic middle school, price tag is $5k a year). Not suggesting any new taxes, just diverting a portion of what we're already paying, to deliver a far superior product to kids who need it. It will hurt public schools. How about we fix any problems w/public schools.

I think choice is a terrific idea. You'd rather doom those kids to failing sh*thole schools to make a political statement.

"Can you pls. show me an ad or a statement by any D. who has said we'll give you more cash if just have more babies? Bc I don't think that has ever been said."

Maybe it's never been said, but that's what welfare does. People on the take, The use of the words "on the take" cleary represent what Rs think of aid.figure it out. That's what the programs do. And the obvious side effect, is creating more fatherless kids.

Do you deny that welfare programs do this?So you think you get more money from the government than is the actual cost to raise children? What is the actual amount in aid a typical family gets?

"Bc the know that didn't do much for "black unemployment"

Oh. So democrats only stand when the president is single-handedly responsible for the good result".How about only standing when the Pres is honest and not lying?

When Biden brags at his first SOTU about all the jobs created, will the democrats cheer? Did he personally create all those jobs? Or was the economy opening back up again before he was sworn in? Same with the stock market. If he says "I alone did this" then they shouldn't stand. I know the Pres. isn't responsible for the job market or the stock market by fortunately/unfortunately gets blamed for them.

"So, no they didn't"

Please give me some meaningful measures by which black life didn't improve under Trump, compared to Obama. Race relations

We all know you guys all hate that blacks did well under Trump. But they didn't get better than Whites - regardless of the lies Trump said. But just because you can't stand it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.But I showed you that it didn't get any better for Blacks

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Yet on another issue, and i can’t quite put my finger on which issue it was, I’m almost certain I heard democrats refer to themselves as pro-choice

Not in this case, it would seem.
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Is it any different than saying no mandates for vaccines and leave it up to the individual but not leaving it up to the individual when it comes to an abortion?

I guess not in this case, it would seem.

No it's not..:rolleyes:

School choice allows public education funds to follow students to the schools or services that best fit their needs —whether that’s to a public school, private school, charter school, home school or any other learning environment families choose.
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It’s all about Taking what people see as Their Taxes and spending it on their private or religious or charters school .

I find it odd Republicans support the idea that people who may rent an apartment or live in public housing and pay little to no taxes and flip the bill for their children to go where they want ! That’s what conservatives want voters to think

School choice is for them hidden in the we’re helping underserved communities

But in reality Most often, the voucher, ESA, or tax incentive will not cover the full cost of a child's education. Parents or guardians are expected to make up the difference.
Hard to make up a difference when you can barely afford to live where you live


Most taxpayers want their tax dollars to go to the classroom for teaching and learning. Yet time and again, some charters spent far more than public schools on administration. In 2014-2015, Arizona charter schools spent over $128 million more than Arizona public schools on management costs. One charter chain, Basis, spent nearly $12 million on administrative costs in one year, for fewer than 9000 students — all hidden from public review.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/01/26/what-taxpayers-should-know-about-the-public-cost-of-school-choice/


The Racist History Of “School Choice”

We are less than six months into 2021, and to date, “school choice” legislation has been introduced in at least 20 states, half of which are in the South. Most of these bills promote tax credits, school vouchers, or “education savings accounts.” All of them drain money from underfunded, under-resourced public schools into private schools. And while some proponents of these bills say that they will improve education opportunities for Black and Brown students and students from low-income families, the truth is that they do not


The Charter School Swindle – Selling Segregation to Blacks and Latinos

https://www.forbes.com/sites/raymondpierce/2021/05/06/the-racist-history-of-school-choice/

A liberal source
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No it's not..:rolleyes:

School choice allows public education funds to follow students to the schools or services that best fit their needs —whether that’s to a public school, private school, charter school, home school or any other learning environment families choose.
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Sure, it will work just like the college system where what happens in your life depends on where you went to school.
Look at college endowments per pupil from Ivy league to state schools, the rest of the education system will follow that model.
Sure some tokens will get to go to the elite schools but they’re not going to be invited to spend break with most people.
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It’s all about Taking what people see as Their Taxes and spending it on their private or religious or charters school .

I find it odd Republicans support the idea that people who may rent an apartment or live in public housing and pay little to no taxes and flip the bill for their children to go where they want ! That’s what conservatives want voters to think

School choice is for them hidden in the we’re helping underserved communities

But in reality Most often, the voucher, ESA, or tax incentive will not cover the full cost of a child's education. Parents or guardians are expected to make up the difference.
Hard to make up a difference when you can barely afford to live where you live


Most taxpayers want their tax dollars to go to the classroom for teaching and learning. Yet time and again, some charters spent far more than public schools on administration. In 2014-2015, Arizona charter schools spent over $128 million more than Arizona public schools on management costs. One charter chain, Basis, spent nearly $12 million on administrative costs in one year, for fewer than 9000 students — all hidden from public review.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/01/26/what-taxpayers-should-know-about-the-public-cost-of-school-choice/


The Racist History Of “School Choice”

We are less than six months into 2021, and to date, “school choice” legislation has been introduced in at least 20 states, half of which are in the South. Most of these bills promote tax credits, school vouchers, or “education savings accounts.” All of them drain money from underfunded, under-resourced public schools into private schools. And while some proponents of these bills say that they will improve education opportunities for Black and Brown students and students from low-income families, the truth is that they do not


The Charter School Swindle – Selling Segregation to Blacks and Latinos

https://www.forbes.com/sites/raymondpierce/2021/05/06/the-racist-history-of-school-choice/

A liberal source
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school choice is racist!!! that’s why poor block parents want it so badly.

partial scholarships are worthless, that’s what you’re saying. anything that doesn’t cover the full
cost is useless?

are coupons useless and racist???’n
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It’s all about Taking what people see as Their Taxes and spending it on their private or religious or charters school .

I find it odd Republicans support the idea that people who may rent an apartment or live in public housing and pay little to no taxes and flip the bill for their children to go where they want ! That’s what conservatives want voters to think

School choice is for them hidden in the we’re helping underserved communities

But in reality Most often, the voucher, ESA, or tax incentive will not cover the full cost of a child's education. Parents or guardians are expected to make up the difference.
Hard to make up a difference when you can barely afford to live where you live


Most taxpayers want their tax dollars to go to the classroom for teaching and learning. Yet time and again, some charters spent far more than public schools on administration. In 2014-2015, Arizona charter schools spent over $128 million more than Arizona public schools on management costs. One charter chain, Basis, spent nearly $12 million on administrative costs in one year, for fewer than 9000 students — all hidden from public review.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2017/01/26/what-taxpayers-should-know-about-the-public-cost-of-school-choice/


The Racist History Of “School Choice”

We are less than six months into 2021, and to date, “school choice” legislation has been introduced in at least 20 states, half of which are in the South. Most of these bills promote tax credits, school vouchers, or “education savings accounts.” All of them drain money from underfunded, under-resourced public schools into private schools. And while some proponents of these bills say that they will improve education opportunities for Black and Brown students and students from low-income families, the truth is that they do not


The Charter School Swindle – Selling Segregation to Blacks and Latinos

https://www.forbes.com/sites/raymondpierce/2021/05/06/the-racist-history-of-school-choice/

A liberal source
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here’s a study showing school choice improves test scores at both private and public schools, lowers the cost of education ( which is why teachers unions hate it and why democrats oppose it), and lessens racial
inequality.

https://www.ceamteam.org/the-consensus-is-that-school-choice-works/

it’s common sense that it works. not all schools are equal.
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from those failed Rs states

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define "failed"

The Racist History Of “School Choice”


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democrats platform for 2022

EVERYTHING IS RACIST

I'll ask again. Did they say that when Trump said he would only pick a candidate approved by the Federalist Society?

And how about when Reagan said he would only pick a woman? Was it obviously illegal then?



I'll explain again.....it was not racist to announce that a pick for the supreme court would be a constitutionalist....it was not racist to say a pick for a supreme court would be a woman....it is incredibly racist to state that a person would be picked based on their skin color at the exclusion of other individuals who do not meet your skin color litmus test

Poor snowflakes, elections have consequences
Haven’t i heard that from someone?
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elections have consequences

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I think America is very aware of this based on brandon's polling

FEB 10 2022
(CNN)Nearly 6 in 10 Americans disapprove of how Joe Biden is handling his presidency, with most of that group saying there's literally nothing Biden has done since taking office that they approve of.

democrats platform for 2022

EVERYTHING IS RACIST

school choice is racist, but you can bet that somehow affirmative action isn’t.
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school choice is racist, but you can bet that somehow affirmative action isn’t.
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birds are racist...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2021/bird-names-racism-audubon/

birds are racist...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/interactive/2021/bird-names-racism-audubon/

and roads. Pete said so.
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CPAC is holding their conference in Hungary , an authoritarian regime under the thumb of Putin tells you the conservative Republican Party no longer exist . It’s no longer a matter of policy differences
It’s a matter of Republicans wanting to change our democracy to a different governance
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school choice is racist, but you can bet that somehow affirmative action isn’t.
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Spoken like a true believer …

Failing to understand why we even needed affirmative action…

Look in the mirror
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I'll explain again.....it was not racist to announce that a pick for the supreme court would be a constitutionalist....it was not racist to say a pick for a supreme court would be a woman....it is incredibly racist to state that a person would be picked based on their skin color at the exclusion of other individuals who do not meet your skin color litmus test

And I’ll say again.

Your in dream land ! if you think any black women were on Ron’s list when he picked his women !

But feel free to think otherwise
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And I’ll say again.

Your in dream land ! if you think any black women were on Ron’s list when he picked his women !

But feel free to think otherwise
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I guess this above your comprehension level....

Scott and Jim are shining examples of how white privilege warps peoples minds
There have only been 2 black SCt justices in the 232 year history of the court. Both men.

Only 5 women have served on the SCt (also a disgrace) & none of them have been black.

Structural racism writ large.

Unless you believe no black woman has ever been qualified for the job.
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Scott and Jim are shining examples of how white privilege warps peoples minds
There have only been 2 black SCt justices in the 232 year history of the court. Both men.

Only 5 women have served on the SCt (also a disgrace) & none of them have been black.

Structural racism writ large.

Unless you believe no black woman has ever been qualified for the job.
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how many male or female Asian or Native American Supreme Court justices have there been?

how many male or female Asian or Native American Supreme Court justices have there been?

How many people other than white men have ever been nominated?
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How many people other than white men have ever been nominated?
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wrong response pete...the problem is not that I'm suffering from white privilege it's that you are suffering from being an idiot

why exclude Asian women, Native American women and others?

wrong response pete...the problem is not that I'm suffering from white privilege it's that you are suffering from being an idiot

why exclude Asian women, Native American women and others?

Apparently you haven’t been paying attention to Biden’s picks for judges, idiot
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Apparently you haven’t been paying attention to Biden’s picks for judges, idiot
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we are talking about the Supreme Court ....get some sleep and try to remember your medication in the morning

why exclude Asian women, Native American women and others?

because those weren’t the demographics that Biden needed to win the 2020 SC democratic primary, after performing dismally in previous states, he limped into SC and desperately needed the endorsement of influential black SC congressman Clayburn (?). Biden threw blacks that bone by making that pledge just before the SC primary. It worked.

If he needed Asians in South Carolina to rejuvenate his struggling campaign, he’d have promised an Asian.
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Pretty decisive election for a “struggling campaign”
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Pretty decisive election for a “struggling campaign”
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every time I read a pete post,,,,I think, "nobody can possibly be this stupid"...


Joe Biden wins South Carolina primary, reshaping the ...https://www.washingtonpost.com › politics › 2020/02/29

Joe Biden scores a decisive win, pumping new life into his struggling campaign and slowing Bernie Sanders's momentum for the first time.
Feb 29, 2020

Pretty decisive election for a “struggling campaign”
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I said struggling before South Carolina. Am I wrong? Let's go by the actual facts, rather than going by your pathetic partisan re-writing of history, shall we?

Iowa was the first state. The results, in order of votes:

1. Sanders
2. Buttogieg
3. Warren
4. Biden (13.7% of the vote)


Then New Hampshire, with results as follows:

1. Sanders
2. Buttigieg
3. Klobuchar
4. Warren
5. Biden (8.3% of the vote!!), one position ahead of Tom Steyer

Then Nevada, results as follows...

1. Sanders (40.5% of vote)
2. Biden (18.9% of vote)

Those were the states before South Carolina, Pete.

I say Biden was struggling at the time.

You deny that.

This might be the most pulverizing yet, of the thousand times you have humiliated yourself here and just been mercilessly bitch slapped.

What are you afraid would have happened, if you just said, "yes Biden was doing poorly before SC"? That's what happened. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but that's what happened.

Do you ever, ever get tired of being so wrong?

Here's the data.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_ primaries#Early_states

Biden desperately needed a win in SC. He needed that black congressman to endorse him, and he got that endorsement immediately after promising to nominate a black woman.

Pretty decisive election for a “struggling campaign”
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From the New York Times...

"Mr. Biden made the promise at a debate in February 2020, just days before facing his Democratic rivals in the South Carolina primary, where Black people make up a large portion of the party’s voters. At the time, his campaign was struggling amid losses in two of the early presidential contests."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/26/us/politics/biden-supreme-court-black-woman.html

So now you have faith in polls and mainstream media🤡
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So now you have faith in polls and mainstream media🤡
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Polls?? What polls? not polls. i’m talking about understanding what already happened in the 2020 primaries, not trying to predict the future.

you’re insane.
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Polls?? What polls? not polls. i’m talking about understanding what already happened in the 2020 primaries, not trying to predict the future.

you’re insane.
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You cite polls and mainstream media, claim you don’t and call me insane
OK
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You cite polls and mainstream media, claim you don’t and call me insane
OK
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in this thread, i cited no polls. I said biden did poorly in the first few states in the 2020 primaries, and i provided facts ( not posts) to back that up.

I’m sure your central nervous system would prefer that biden won every state unanimously, starting with Iowa. But facts are facts, whether you happen to like them or not. Biden struggled in the first few states, then just before SC he promised to nominate a black woman, that made Rep Clayburn endorse Biden who then won SC and steamrolled.

That’s what happened. If you don’t like it, it’s still what happened.

And it has nothing whatsoever to do with polling. It’s looking back at what already happened. polls predict the future.

See if you can follow…stating what already happened in the past, and predicting what will happen in the future, are different.

I’m very sorry if that’s too fast for you.
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Ahh if Biden hadn’t said he’d pick a black woman he wouldn’t be President
OK
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Ahh if Biden hadn’t said he’d pick a black woman he wouldn’t be President
OK
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Hearing those Trump voices in your head again, because I didn't say that. I repeated events as they happened.

You're denying verifiable, tangible results of the 2020 primaries.

That's healthy.

Next you’ll claim Trump won
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So now you have faith in polls and mainstream media��
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pete keeps missing the obvious point regarding polls


most of the sources of these polls spend all of their time trying to convince America that biden is a good president and then they run a poll hoping to see the results of their hard work and their own poll demonstrates that biden sucks

the same sources spent all of their time trying to convince America that trump was a lousy president and then took polls to verify their handiwork


it was understandable that trump polled badly with a constant and daily drumbeat of negativity from the msm,,,

biden however, apparently just sucks

even in Commiefornia

17 February 2022

Biden loses his sheen in the Golden State as new poll finds even in California most voters now disapprove of his job performance and just 47% approve
More voters in California disapprove than approve of Joe Biden's presidency

Joe Biden's poll numbers are continuing to plummet even in the Blue state of California, with more voters disapproving than approving of his current job performance.