a GA mom went to a school board meeting, was reading sexually explicit stuff from a book.

A board member told her to stop, saying the words were too explicit to say in public, and that kids could hear it, and that it was inappropriate for kids to hear.

The book she was reading from, was available in the school library.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/parent-reading-sexual-content-school-cut-off-board-member-irony.amp

Just wait till she finds out about the internet

But I didn’t understand how “Woke Disney” was such a threat to someone’s gender identity until Tucker Carlson started advocating “Testicle Tanning” to make you more manly.

Now it all makes perfect sense.
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Luckily they’re on the lookout for all kinds of evil

Sources say Gov. Ron Desantis discovered the recruitment of Al-Gebra trainees taking place under the guise of so called "math classes" in middle schools all around Florida.
All math classes have been suspended until a full investigation has been completed.
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The Florida law that Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed last month empowers parents to take actions against offending school boards

the law’s vagueness might end up handing opponents a hidden weapon against it.

Some on the right to include Jim — and DeSantis’s spokesperson — have slimed Disney and other critics as “groomers” out to prep kids for sex


All this happened under your watch," the parent told the board

Wow shocking another mom free speech for me not thee.

The books been around since 2016 novel of breathtaking sweep and emotional power that traces three hundred years in Ghana and along the way also becomes a truly great American novel. Extraordinary for its exquisite language, its implacable sorrow, its soaring beauty, and for its monumental portrait of the forces that shape families and nations,

Yet you got this women reading out I am guessing a rape or sex scene. Uptight because she can’t get laid!!!

What’s next Jim remove old National Geographic because of topless indigenous women

And I doubt her children are going to go looking for that book for the dirty parts that’s conservatives imagination running wild ..

While her sons on his phone watching youporn and her daughter is watching bridgerton.on Netflix she’s at a school board metering making an ass of herself …. Gotta love Conservatives logic
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The Florida law that Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis signed last month empowers parents to take actions against offending school boards

the law’s vagueness might end up handing opponents a hidden weapon against it.

Some on the right to include Jim — and DeSantis’s spokesperson — have slimed Disney and other critics as “groomers” out to prep kids for sex


All this happened under your watch," the parent told the board

Wow shocking another mom free speech for me not thee.

The books been around since 2016 novel of breathtaking sweep and emotional power that traces three hundred years in Ghana and along the way also becomes a truly great American novel. Extraordinary for its exquisite language, its implacable sorrow, its soaring beauty, and for its monumental portrait of the forces that shape families and nations,

Yet you got this women reading out I am guessing a rape or sex scene. Uptight because she can’t get laid!!!

What’s next Jim remove old National Geographic because of topless indigenous women

And I doubt her children are going to go looking for that book for the dirty parts that’s conservatives imagination running wild ..

While her sons on his phone watching youporn and her daughter is watching bridgerton.on Netflix she’s at a school board metering making an ass of herself …. Gotta love Conservatives logic
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you mean the law that you called “don’t say gay”, which was just before you criticized republicans for
lying?

do you ever, and i mean ever, stuck to the subject?

you have been saying that conservatives have no valid reason to be concerned about what’s in these schools. i pointnto a real example of sexual language so explicit, the school board member said it wasn’t fit for kids, not knowing it was from a school book.

I’m sorry if their pains you to hear it, but that proves that there’s some inappropriate sexual stuff in public school.

good for parents for raising awareness

why is it so important to you, that children be exposed to sexually explicit material in public schools.?

and it’s not a new thing that school board members are accountable to parents. parents elect them. they serve the parents.

“uptight because she cant get laid.”

did you read my link? the school board member was the one who told the mother to stop reading

do you have any idea how trump-like you sound?

you’re a real classless jerk. and you’re stupid. and you truly deserve what’s coming in november.

parents who don’t want smut in elementary school are all sexually frustrated. it’s not posssible to have a principled reason to not want kids exposed to this.

a losing political issue for you, like just about everything else.


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you mean the law that you called “don’t say gay”, which was just before you criticized republicans for
lying?

do you ever, and i mean ever, stuck to the subject?

you have been saying that conservatives have no valid reason to be concerned about what’s in these schools. i pointnto a real example of sexual language so explicit, the school board member said it wasn’t fit for kids, not knowing it was from a school book.

I’m sorry if their pains you to hear it, but that proves that there’s some inappropriate sexual stuff in public school.

good for parents for raising awareness

why is it so important to you, that children be exposed to sexually explicit material in public schools.?

and it’s not a new thing that school board members are accountable to parents. parents elect them. they serve the parents.

“uptight because she cant get laid.”

did you read my link? the school board member was the one who told the mother to stop reading

do you have any idea how trump-like you sound?

you’re a real classless jerk. and you’re stupid. and you truly deserve what’s coming in november.

parents who don’t want smut in elementary school are all sexually frustrated. it’s not posssible to have a principled reason to not want kids exposed to this.

a losing political issue for you, like just about everything else.


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you live in a fantasy world Jim with the rest of the far right

next you'll be supporting Alex Jones’s Infowars for Filing for Bankruptcy... claiming its an attack on free speech


I am still waiting what what was explicit?

so now reading the word#^&#^&#^&#^&, piss, #^&#^&#^&#^&, #^&#^&#^&#^&, cocksucker, mother#^&#^&#^&#^&er, and tits; is offensive

yet saying #^&#^&#^&#^&, piss, #^&#^&#^&#^&, #^&#^&#^&#^&, cocksucker, mother#^&#^&#^&#^&er, and tits; in a public forum is somehow the Same kind of offensive ya Ok ..

you are beyond desperate:btu:

you live in a fantasy world Jim with the rest of the far right

next you'll be supporting Alex Jones’s Infowars for Filing for Bankruptcy... claiming its an attack on free speech


I am still waiting what what was explicit?

so now reading the word#^&#^&#^&#^&, piss, #^&#^&#^&#^&, #^&#^&#^&#^&, cocksucker, mother#^&#^&#^&#^&er, and tits; is offensive

yet saying #^&#^&#^&#^&, piss, #^&#^&#^&#^&, #^&#^&#^&#^&, cocksucker, mother#^&#^&#^&#^&er, and tits; in a public forum is somehow the Same kind of offensive ya Ok ..

you are beyond desperate:btu:

Wayne we’re adults. there are things suitable for us that aren’t suitable for a 6 year old. Clearly that concept is beyond you and I’m sorry for that. Maybe if you spent less time in school looking at porn and more time learning, you’d understand what i mean.

not sure why you’re waiting to see what was objectionable, the video is in the link i posted. Pure smut that somehow is required reading for an AP English class. Unreal.

Yea republicans are so very desperate. nothing is going our way, he polls look awful for us, i think o the democrats are going to win 100% of the house.

What in Gods name do conservatives have to be desperate about? Can you name one thing? We can’t WAIT until November.

You called the FL bill “don’t say gay”, then you say conservatives lie, then you say we live in fantasy land.

whatever you say.
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there are things suitable for us that aren’t suitable for a 6 year old. No kidding but these things are not being taught in schools not 20 years ago or yesterday ... it's the right Q fixation with paedophilia pizza gate
cabals of baby eating Democrats .. wake up Jim this is where this all came from it's not a legitimate concern its a manufactured one

Trump Said QAnon ‘Fights’ Pedophilia. that there is a secret cabal of powerful elites who run an underground pedophilia ring, and that President Trump is currently working to bring these evildoers to justice. But the underlying connective tissue of QAnon is that bad people, mainly Democrats, are trafficking children and Trump is the only one who can stop them.

Q followers began using #savethechildren to spread the conspiracy theory,

Gov. DeSantis spokesperson says ‘Don’t Say Gay’ opponents are ‘groomers’

its all in the open Jim you just have to see it

Now math books :kewl:

Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

The rejected books make up a record 41% of the 132 books submitted for review, the Florida Department of Education said in a statement.

Of them, 28 were rejected because they "incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies, including [critical race theory],"

but no mention of which math books

Among grade levels, 70% of the math materials for kindergarten through fifth grades were rejected. Twenty percent of the materials for grades 6-8 were rejected, and 35% of materials for grades 9-12 were rejected.

"It seems that some publishers attempted to slap a coat of paint on an old house built on the foundation of Common Core, and indoctrinating concepts like race essentialism, especially, bizarrely, for elementary school students," said Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

yep just like your dirty books they've been in schools for decades and not until Conservative morality police went digging in Dark corners to expose this mythical grooming and CRT that they still have no idea what it is so its everything :kewl:

there are things suitable for us that aren’t suitable for a 6 year old. No kidding but these things are not being taught in schools not 20 years ago or yesterday ... it's the right Q fixation with paedophilia pizza gate
cabals of baby eating Democrats .. wake up Jim this is where this all came from it's not a legitimate concern its a manufactured one

Trump Said QAnon ‘Fights’ Pedophilia. that there is a secret cabal of powerful elites who run an underground pedophilia ring, and that President Trump is currently working to bring these evildoers to justice. But the underlying connective tissue of QAnon is that bad people, mainly Democrats, are trafficking children and Trump is the only one who can stop them.

Q followers began using #savethechildren to spread the conspiracy theory,

Gov. DeSantis spokesperson says ‘Don’t Say Gay’ opponents are ‘groomers’

its all in the open Jim you just have to see it

Now math books :kewl:

Florida rejects 54 math books, claiming critical race theory appeared in some

The rejected books make up a record 41% of the 132 books submitted for review, the Florida Department of Education said in a statement.

Of them, 28 were rejected because they "incorporate prohibited topics or unsolicited strategies, including [critical race theory],"

but no mention of which math books

Among grade levels, 70% of the math materials for kindergarten through fifth grades were rejected. Twenty percent of the materials for grades 6-8 were rejected, and 35% of materials for grades 9-12 were rejected.

"It seems that some publishers attempted to slap a coat of paint on an old house built on the foundation of Common Core, and indoctrinating concepts like race essentialism, especially, bizarrely, for elementary school students," said Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

yep just like your dirty books they've been in schools for decades and not until Conservative morality police went digging in Dark corners to expose this mythical grooming and CRT that they still have no idea what it is so its everything :kewl:

"there are things suitable for us that aren’t suitable for a 6 year old. No kidding"

Well 5 minutes ago you were wondering why it's OK for us to say those things but not OK for kids to read it. So 5 minutes ago you didn't get the difference.

"these things are not being taught in schools not 20 years ago or yesterday ... it's the right Q fixation with paedophilia pizza gate "

Demonstrably wrong. Just watch the video in the link I posted. The mother read from a book her son was required to read for school..."he pushed himself further into her, she squeezed her eyes shut and wrapper her arms around him..." You keep saying the right is making it up, when it's right there on the video you refuse to watch.

"Gov. DeSantis spokesperson says ‘Don’t Say Gay’ opponents are ‘groomers’ "

Still using the don't say gay lie, Which is fine, but it means you're a liar like you accuse the right of being, doesn't it?


"no mention of which math books "

I'm sure you can find out. Now you are fabricating a crisis, because you have absoluteky no basis for showing those books aren't inappropriate. And I have no idea if they are or not, I havn't seen anything. Neither have you, but that doesn't stop you from concluding the Republicans are wrong.

So you keep saying "don't say gay", and while you're doing that, Desantis' approval is skyrocketing and the GOP is going to take the house in a big way, and watch as Hispanics take a meaningful shift to the right.

You keep acting like the democrats haven't moved a million miles to the left, while the rest of the country decides that's exactly what happened and voted in a red wave. Which the GOP will probably completely fail to capitalize on and give control right back to the DNC in 2024.

You're in a very small minority of kool aid drinkers, who think the GOP is making it all up. Watch how far that gets you in November. You keep screaming about the don't say gay bill when the rip the speaker's gavel out of Pelosi's stupid hands.

they've been in schools for decades and not until Conservative morality police went digging in Dark corners to expose this mythical grooming and CRTl:

Now you're saying that because conservatives weren't complaining until now, that they have no valid complaint.

Would you like a list of things that have been around for decades (or thousands of years), which woke liberals were fine with until 5 minutes ago?

The idea that if you have a wee-wee, you go to the mens room, and you compete in sports against other people with wee wees. That idea has been around for hundreds of years, and no one objected until the deranged woke liberal gestapo showed up.

The idea that one's gender is whatever we declare it to be.

The fact that sometimes police make good-faith, yet tragic, mistakes.

The idea that fathers are a good thing.

The idea that drugs are bad and should be stigmatized.

The idea that poor people shouldn't bear the burden of repaying student loans taken out by wealthy kids.

How many do you want? What planet do you live on, where you say that only republicans are objecting to things that have been around for awhile?

Now you're saying that because conservatives weren't complaining until now, that they have no valid complaint.

Would you like a list of things that have been around for decades (or thousands of years), which woke liberals were fine with until 5 minutes ago?

The idea that if you have a wee-wee, you go to the mens room, and you compete in sports against other people with wee wees. That idea has been around for hundreds of years, and no one objected until the deranged woke liberal gestapo showed up.

The idea that one's gender is whatever we declare it to be.

The fact that sometimes police make good-faith, yet tragic, mistakes.

The idea that fathers are a good thing.

The idea that drugs are bad and should be stigmatized.

The idea that poor people shouldn't bear the burden of repaying student loans taken out by wealthy kids.

How many do you want? What planet do you live on, where you say that only republicans are objecting to things that have been around for awhile?

your being played Jim everything you wrote is a fantasy you're just another angry old man... longing for a past that never existed and fighting a future that doesn't affect you or your family. until they end up being one of those people in your list ..

yet you fail to acknowledge its just another right wing manufactured outrage

“Grooming” Is Republicans’ Cruel New Buzzword for Targeting Trans Kids
On the right, “grooming” is being teed up as the next CRT.


and you've bought in to it hook line and sinker ...

your being played Jim everything you wrote is a fantasy you're just another angry old man... longing for a past that never existed and fighting a future that doesn't affect you or your family. until they end up being one of those people in your list ..

yet you fail to acknowledge its just another right wing manufactured outrage

“Grooming” Is Republicans’ Cruel New Buzzword for Targeting Trans Kids
On the right, “grooming” is being teed up as the next CRT.


and you've bought in to it hook line and sinker ...

you can’t debate anything honestly for two seconds, which is why you refer to the FL bill
as don’t say gay. you have to fabricate it’s bigotry because you can’t refute the logic of the reality.

i remember accurately what i’d like to return to. you’re saying there was never a time when men used the men’s room and that men didn’t compete physically with women? maybe you never saw such a world ( that would
explain things). it i did

i’m not angry. i’m winning.
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You and Tucker🤡
https://twitter.com/nikkimcr/status/1515130557675581442?s=21&t=qif2vLdFTrB66IFYeTzdVg
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DeSantis wants to end Disney World's special status in Florida

now hes attacking Disney not the 1st time Republicans have tried

Odd republicans loved Citizen united The court held that the free speech clause of the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent expenditures for political campaigns by corporations, including nonprofit corporations, labor unions, and other associations.

So now Ron who is upset that Disney used its First Amendment right to speak out against his policy feels that he can Punish them for doing So


Just another example of conservatives Free speech is for ME not thee ...


Ron once again using Fla to advance his National Agenda

Ron once again using Fla to advance his National Agenda

(1) why are Desantis approval ratings in FL so high?

(2) why are so many people and businesses moving to FL?

he’s giving his citizens what they want. that’s how it’s supposed to work. he’s not supposed to give them what you want.
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(1) why are Desantis approval ratings in FL so high?

(2) why are so many people and businesses moving to FL?

he’s giving his citizens what they want. that’s how it’s supposed to work. he’s not supposed to give them what you want.
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Yep you’ve been radicalized
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Yep you’ve been radicalized
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THATS your answer to my questions?

are you denying Desantis has high approval ratings and that lots of people are moving there?

seriously?

radicalized because i can concede facts!!’. oh that’s awesome!
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WDMSO -

an article showing Desantis approval ratings at 58.8% last month.

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/politics/florida-poll-desantis-governor-president-trump/67-70793b23-fca9-4383-8f6e-3e95dc0cf18a

2020 census data says Florida had the 8th highest population increase from 2020-2020. 8th out of 50.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/slideshows/these-are-the-10-fastest-growing-states-in-america?slide=4

So am I "radical", or am I "stating irrefutable facts, which you don't happen to like and therefore cannot accept"?

Which is it?

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) threatens Twitter after it activated “poison pill” plan to prevent Elon Musk’s acquisition: “We’re gonna be looking at ways the state of Florida potentially can be holding these Twitter board of directors accountable for breaching their fiduciary duty.”

Spin it however you’d like but Ron DeSantis targeting Disney’s 55-year old charter for political revenge is peak big government overreach.

The fire department, power plant and roads that Disney currently funds would then be paid for by Florida taxpayers.

He’s just itching to be POTUS and have more power to threaten people and things he doesn't like.

Stating the obvious here, people who want power so they can punish their enemies should never be given any power. Public office is a position of trust that should be reserved for those who seek to help people.

I didn't guess this would be the clarion call of 21st century conservatism. It's a list of stuff they hate. That's literally the only thing that binds them together.

I can't imagine being like that. It would be hellish.
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Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) threatens Twitter after it activated “poison pill” plan to prevent Elon Musk’s acquisition: “We’re gonna be looking at ways the state of Florida potentially can be holding these Twitter board of directors accountable for breaching their fiduciary duty.”

Twitter's board of directors is abandoning their fiduciary duty by denying the shareholders a huge increase in the worth of their investment.

Spin it however you’d like but Ron DeSantis targeting Disney’s 55-year old charter for political revenge is peak big government overreach.

Oh, so now you're on the side of the oligarch--spin it however you'd like. Disney is pushing it's mighty political clout around lying about and trying to defeat a popular bill. Game on and you side with the big corporation against the will of the people--hypocrite.

The fire department, power plant and roads that Disney currently funds would then be paid for by Florida taxpayers.

What would stop Disney from providing the funds?

He’s just itching to be POTUS and have more power to threaten people and things he doesn't like.

Naw . . . he's just itching to be POTUS in order to "help" people and things he likes--the American people, for instance.

Stating the obvious here, people who want power so they can punish their enemies should never be given any power. Public office is a position of trust that should be reserved for those who seek to help people.

DeSantis wants to "help" the people of Florida. Disney wants to "help" itself. Public office in a constitutional republic such as ours should be "reserved" for those who seek to uphold the Constitution and protect our inalienable rights.

Of course, being an authoritarian, you favor government that has the power to decide what is good for the people and to punish those who oppose the government's "help" and the government's way of providing that "help." How dare the citizens criticize and oppose the decisions of those running government agencies! What hubris for parents to object to what is being taught in schools! Do they actually think they know better what's good for their children than government experts!?!

I didn't guess this would be the clarion call of 21st century conservatism. It's a list of stuff they hate. That's literally the only thing that binds them together.

"Conservatives" are bound together by the things they love. Progressives, including you, hate "conservatism."
You'd do anything, tell any lie, to destroy "conservatism."

I can't imagine being like that. It would be hellish.


But you are like that. Maybe that's why you sound so hellish.

March 2021: Disney gives Ron DeSantis $50,000

April 2021: DeSantis helps Disney get a legislative carveout to his tech "censorship" bill

March 2022: Disney halts campaign contributions in Florida

April 2022: DeSantis tells the Florida Legislature to take away Disney's carveout
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THATS your answer to my questions?

are you denying Desantis has high approval ratings and that lots of people are moving there?

seriously?

radicalized because i can concede facts!!’. oh that’s awesome!
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The Villages is a census-designated place in Sumter County, Florida, United States. It shares its name with a broader master-planned age-restricted community that spreads into portions of Lake and Marion counties


They have the same status of Disney but their conservatives and didn’t disagree with their Dear leader . So they are not in Ron’s crosshairs.

Ron’s been in office for how long Jim ? And suddenly last year these issues have become a concern of his !

Wake up it’s all about him bring mini Trump because he sees Jan6th has given him a chance…in2024 so he’s all in on kowtowing to the base

And keep thinking people are moving to Fla thanks to Ron

58% approval rating, DeSantis

DeSantis drew just 44% in Aug 2021 No cheerleading then?bakers rating no is 57%

Gov. Charlie Baker's approval rating
In 2021 peaked at 72% omg in a dem State .., let me guess another Rino

But you don’t see me stroking him daily

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The Villages is a census-designated place in Sumter County, Florida, United States. It shares its name with a broader master-planned age-restricted community that spreads into portions of Lake and Marion counties


They have the same status of Disney but their conservatives and didn’t disagree with their Dear leader . So they are not in Ron’s crosshairs.

Ron’s been in office for how long Jim ? And suddenly last year these issues have become a concern of his !

Wake up it’s all about him bring mini Trump because he sees Jan6th has given him a chance…in2024 so he’s all in on kowtowing to the base

And keep thinking people are moving to Fla thanks to Ron

58% approval rating, DeSantis

DeSantis drew just 44% in Aug 2021 No cheerleading then?bakers rating no is 57%

Gov. Charlie Baker's approval rating
In 2021 peaked at 72% omg in a dem State .., let me guess another Rino

But you don’t see me stroking him daily

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why does Desantis approval rating a year ago, matter more than his approval rating today?

I never said everyone is moving to FL because of Desantis. But people are moving there because it’s less expensive than many other places, while still offering a desirable quality of life.

Offering a cheaper product that’s not of lower quality, is called “winning.”

you stroke liberalism daily. all day, every day, every single post. why would you stroke a republican governor, ever? that would require a speck of honesty.

you’re criticizing Desantis for playing to his base. What politician doesn’t do that?

Biden wants you to pay for student loans taken out by rich kids. that’s an idiotic idea, he’s only playing to his base. but you’ll support it, because it’s a liberal idea.

of course it’s about him being mini trump. America liked trumps policies, they despised his ethics. We know this. So why wouldn’t republicans be exited about a governor who embraces the same kinds of policies that trump did ( policies americans will like) with none of Trumps insane behavior?

I want a candidate who embodies the good of trump, who doesn’t embody the bad. Desantis appears to fit the bill, maybe there’s dirt there? but so far, he appears to fit the bill

which is precisely why liberals are scared sh*tless of him. They know he APPEARS to be the positive attributes of trump, without being such an easy target for criticism.

All he has to do, is point to the irrefutable data that shows florida is a well run state. He’s got actual, good results he can point to, at a time when the nation is struggling at every turn. He’s also bright, funny, and charismatic.

He appears to be a serious, serious candidate. That may well
change, that’s a long way off, and it’s all moot if trump runs because nobody is beating trump
i’m a primary sadly.
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I want a candidate who embodies the good of trump

That’s the issue Jim their was no good in Trump

You might as well say you want a candidate who embodies the good of Benedict Arnold

And iam100% sure if Trump happens to win re-election. He and his followers will try to overturn that a president can only serve 2 terms
Using the 2020 election as his excuse and if the Republicans control both houses they’ll do it

And if he losses it was stolen again and both house will succeed were they failed last time.
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That’s the issue Jim their was no good in Trump

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because you’re thoughtless.

why did a record number of americans say they were better off after 4 years of trump? he set the record for that poll. It was a Gallup poll, not a fox news poll.

Why did trump double the standard deduction on income tax, which increases the number of people
who pay nothing? Why did he create economic opportunity zones in urban areas? why does he advocate for school choice? why did he advocate for criminal justice reform?

He’s an unbelievable, world class jerk. but he implemented policies that americans liked.

Both of those things are true. I can admit the former. You can’t admit the latter.

The little kid who cut lawns to make
money wrote trump a letter, trump brought him to the white house, let him cut the grass, walked back
and forth with him. why? why did he do that, when he could
have been doing evil at that time?

the problem is, where you get your news, they won’t mention the good things he accomplished ( lowest ever black unemployment). they are banking on you being thoughtless, and they want you to be ignorant.
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I want a candidate who embodies the good of trump

That’s the issue Jim their was no good in Trump


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please explain this.

sick little boy needed to fly across the country, commercial
airlines refused to do it because of all the medical
equipment he needed

Trump donated his jet.

Why? Why did he do that?

Have fun answering.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-flies-sick-boy/
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March 2021: Disney gives Ron DeSantis $50,000

April 2021: DeSantis helps Disney get a legislative carveout to his tech "censorship" bill

March 2022: Disney halts campaign contributions in Florida

April 2022: DeSantis tells the Florida Legislature to take away Disney's carveout
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Sounds like typical politics. Nothing a Dem wouldn't do.

Disney does the corporate, oligarchic trick. Buy the politician. Disney figures it owns the politician and doesn't need to buy him anymore. Politician says he doesn't need Disney anymore.

When you stop paying for what you want, you don't get any more of it. Works in the market and in politics.

Disney shouldn't have gotten the carveout in the first place. Politics is dirty. That's why people tend to hate it. If you think that DeSantis must be a saint that dares not tread where typical politicians of either party go, you're dreaming in Disney land.

Sounds like typical politics. Nothing a Dem wouldn't do.

Disney does the corporate, oligarchic trick. Buy the politician. Disney figures it owns the politician and doesn't need to buy him anymore. Politician says he doesn't need Disney anymore.

When you stop paying for what you want, you don't get any more of it. Works in the market and in politics.

Disney shouldn't have gotten the carveout in the first place. Politics is dirty. That's why people tend to hate it. If you think that DeSantis must be a saint that dares not tread where typical politicians of either party go, you're dreaming in Disney land.

right, i’m not saying Desantis isn’t as politically sleazy as the average politician.
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right, i’m not saying Desantis isn’t as politically sleazy as the average politician.
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Yeah . . . and as usual, Pete likes to have it both ways. He rails against Citizens United, and claims that corporations run the country. But he resists the fact that it's a symbiotic relationship. The politicians have to agree, they are not forced into the corruption. Here you have a case were the politician rebuffs the corporation and Pete criticizes the politician and makes the corporation appear to be the saint. Hypocrite.

But, it's probably because the politician in this case is not a Progressive. Progressive politicians, for Pete it seems, are allowed to be corrupt. No doubt, it fits his authoritarian critical theory philosophy that "conservatism" is totalitarian and must be denied a voice and destroyed--apparently by any lying deceptive means necessary.

Pete may think DeSantis should be saintly because of his name? Look up the name Santis.

please explain this.

sick little boy needed to fly across the country, commercial
airlines refused to do it because of all the medical
equipment he needed

Trump donated his jet.

Why? Why did he do that?

Have fun answering.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-flies-sick-boy/
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I know that you have mentioned this many times but do you have anything from this century?

To show Trumps generosity you need use a story from 1988?




As part of a resolution of the lawsuit announced on November 7th, Trump was ordered to pay $2 million, or $250,000, a piece to eight different charities.

Additionally, as part of the settlement, Trump was required to agree to 19 admissions, acknowledging his personal misuse of funds at the Trump Foundation, and agreed to restrictions on future charitable service and ongoing reporting to the Office of the Attorney General, in the event he creates a new charity. The settlement also included mandatory training requirements for Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump, which the three children have already undergone. Finally, the settlement required the Trump Foundation to shutter its doors last December and dissolve under court supervision.

I know that you have mentioned this many times but do you have anything from this century?

To show Trumps generosity you need use a story from 1988?




As part of a resolution of the lawsuit announced on November 7th, Trump was ordered to pay $2 million, or $250,000, a piece to eight different charities.

Additionally, as part of the settlement, Trump was required to agree to 19 admissions, acknowledging his personal misuse of funds at the Trump Foundation, and agreed to restrictions on future charitable service and ongoing reporting to the Office of the Attorney General, in the event he creates a new charity. The settlement also included mandatory training requirements for Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump, which the three children have already undergone. Finally, the settlement required the Trump Foundation to shutter its doors last December and dissolve under court supervision.

I like that story (donating his jet to the child), because Trump specifically did what the commercial airlines refused to do. It's an interesting story, I didn't say it happened yesterday. It's also worth noting that the kid was Jewish and Trump still gets called an anti-semite.

WDMSO says there's no good in him. Again, he's such a simpleton, he has to convince himself that Trump is a Sith Lord, he literally isn't capable of processing anything else.

I'm not his accountant. It's my understanding he donated his presidential salary for 4 years, and he's some charitable giving from Wikipedia from 2006 to 2009.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grants_made_by_the_Donald_J._Trump_Foundat ion

Some others...keep in mind, I'm not saying he's a good man. I say he's not a good man. But he's not even close to what your side says he is...there is good, and there is bad...

https://nypost.com/2020/07/30/trump-offers-to-pay-for-funeral-of-slain-soldier-vanessa-guillen/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/02/27/president-donald-trump-probably-donated-his-entire-16m-salary-back-to-the-us-government--here-are-the-details/?sh=6a8924211a8d

https://www.katc.com/news/covering-louisiana/former-president-donald-trump-makes-10-000-donation-for-search-of-missing-crewmembers-of-seacor-power

https://fox17.com/news/local/president-trump-donating-100000-from-salary-for-covid-19-relief

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-quiet-acts-kindness/

The lefties here have called people retard, gone after TDF's kids, gone after another guys wife's illness. But you all clutch your pearls and start menstruating when Trump acts like a jerk? Sorry, we're not buying it, you can't have it both ways.

All peanuts for a billionaire.



The lefties here have called people retardPull up thje quote and let's see the context of the use of the word. You've used imbecile frequently. , gone after TDF's kidsDidn't he post a picture in response to Pete and title it "liberal's kids" or something similar and then Pete posted a picture and said TDF's kids. , gone after another guys wife's illnessdidn't see that but you seem never to have a problem when Seadangles went after people's kids here (by mocking their college), mentioning people's wives or constantly calling people POS'. But you all clutch your pearls and start menstruating when Trump acts like a jerk? Yet, your the one here with the most posts, threads and posts all hours of the day and night, seven days a week. Sorry, we're not buying it, you can't have it both ways.

This is one of the reasons I think you are a D ick.

All peanuts for a billionaire.




This is one of the reasons I think you are a D ick.

And your using the word retard, thinking it's fine, and getting all bent out of shape about everyone else's language, is why I feel similarly. Stop being a hypocrite, I'll stop calling you a hypocrite.

"All peanuts for a billionaire."

It just came out that Biden and Harris had charitable donations well below the average for their income brackets. But that's OK.

All peanuts for a billionaire.




This is one of the reasons I think you are a D ick.

"Pull up thje quote and let's see the context of the use of the word. You've used imbecile frequently"

(1) We went over the quote and the context.

(2) imbecile isn't offensive hate speech. Retard is up there with the worst words in the language. But it doesn't bother you, so you don't want to be told it's offensive.

Paul, I do a LOT of work with Special Olympics. I'd donate big $$ to the charity of your choice, to have you go into a Special Olympics event and use that word.

Lead by example, or stop crying like a girl when others follow suit.

"you seem never to have a problem when Seadangles went after people's kids here"

Wrong. I've told Dangles more than once he went too far. Nice try.

Didn't he post a picture in response to Pete and title it "liberal's kids" or something similar
.

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"Pull up the quote and let's see the context of the use of the word. You've used imbecile frequently"

(1) We went over the quote That is a lie. Pull it up.
and the context.

(2) imbecile isn't offensive hate speech It sure is offensive. . Retard is up there with the worst words in the language. But it doesn't bother you, so you don't want to be told it's offensive.You didn't seem to have a problem with Trump mocked the handicapped reporter. In fact you try to constantly down play by saying he has mocked nonhanicapped people the same way so Trump must not have meant it in offensive way.

Paul, I do a LOT of work with Special Olympics. I'd donate big $$ to the charity of your choice, to have you go into a Special Olympics event and use that word.And I've done work for special olympics also. When they had the world games in New Haven I was in charge of a group of translators.

Lead by example, or stop crying like a girl when others follow suit.How am I crying like a girl. I ask you a simple question - show us some examples of Trump's charity that occurred this century and you blow up like an angry 12 year old.

"you seem never to have a problem when Seadangles went after people's kids here"

Wrong. I've told Dangles more than once he went too far. Nice try.Pull up a few examples bc I can't remember you saying anything to him. In fact, that little clown RMarsh called me one and you didn't say anything.

So I guess that means twice. Should I have said "99% of the time you never had a problem.......

They way you speak to people hear shows me you are an angry D ick.

So I guess that means twice. Should I have said "99% of the time you never had a problem.......

They way you speak to people hear shows me you are an angry D ick.

"That is a lie. Pull it up."

You can do it if you want. We talked about it when you said it, then we discussed the context.

"You didn't seem to have a problem with Trump mocked the handicapped reporter."

If he did what you say, it's disgusting. If that's just his immature way of making fun of everyone who disagrees with him (and there's a ton of video evidence to suggest exactly that), then he's an a-hole, but not as bad as making fun of a handicap.

I'm saying it's wrong no matter who does it. You're saying it's wrong when Trump mocked handicapped people, but OK when you do it.

"And I've done work for special olympics also. When they had the world games in New Haven I was in charge of a group of translators."

Then you should know better. Absolutely amazing that you don't, but whatever.

"How am I crying like a girl."

You never stop. You constantly get offended when anyone on the right is obnoxious, but it's OK when all of you do it.

"Pull up a few examples bc I can't remember you saying anything to him. In fact, that little clown RMarsh called me one and you didn't say anything."

Do you own search Paul. If it helps you feel better, I'll say it again. There were times when Dangles went too far and was deeply offensive.

"that little clown RMarsh called me one and you didn't say anything."

I don't know what he called you, and I don't especially care. You'r ethe only one keeping score on insults, but again you have no trouble slinging them yourself. Grow a pair, and take it like a man. Just leave wives, kids, and disabled people out of it. Doesn't seem like a huge ask. But sadly it is.

"They way you speak to people hear shows me you are an angry D ick."

Pointing out that it's wrong to call people a retard, makes me an angry d*ck. You call someone a retard, I call you out on it, and the character flaw is mine, not yours.

Whatever, Paul.

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not how I remember it, either. thank you.

Paul, what are you afraid would happen if you told the truth?

And I've done work for special olympics also

Here is the Special Olympics saying that word is "hate speech". Are they wrong, Paul? Are you correct and they're wrong?

You can't both be right. Who do you suppose, knows more about what's hurtful to that community? You, or the Special Olympics?

Have fun with that.


https://www.specialolympics.org/stories/impact/why-the-r-word-is-the-r-slur

"That is a lie. Pull it up."

You can do it if you want. We talked about it when you said it, then we discussed the context. That is a lie, you never said a word in the whole thread about it.

"You didn't seem to have a problem with Trump mocked the handicapped reporter."

If he did what you say, it's disgusting. If that's just his immature way of making fun of everyone who disagrees with him (and there's a ton of video evidence to suggest exactly that), then he's an a-hole, but not as bad as making fun of a handicap.But that is exactly what he did.

I'm saying it's wrong no matter who does it. You're saying it's wrong when Trump mocked handicapped people, but OK when you do it.it is about context

"And I've done work for special olympics also. When they had the world games in New Haven I was in charge of a group of translators."

Then you should know better. Absolutely amazing that you don't, but whatever.Try calling someone there an imbecile and see what happens.

"How am I crying like a girl."

You never stop. You constantly get offended when anyone on the right is obnoxious, but it's OK when all of you do it. How did I get offended? I asked you to provide a more up to date example than 1988. Why should I take your classless, angry insults?

"Pull up a few examples bc I can't remember you saying anything to him. In fact, that little clown RMarsh called me one and you didn't say anything."

Do you own search Paul. If it helps you feel better, I'll say it again. There were times when Dangles went too far and was deeply offensive.

"that little clown RMarsh called me one and you didn't say anything."

I don't know what he called you, and I don't especially care. You'r ethe only one keeping score on insults, but again you have no trouble slinging them yourself. Grow a pair, and take it like a man. Just leave wives, kids, and disabled people out of it. Doesn't seem like a huge ask. But sadly it is.So you want me to take people's insults? That is funny. Show me how I insulted people's wives, kids or disable people?

"They way you speak to people hear shows me you are an angry D ick."I asked you a simple question and you resort to insults. Go look back and tell me you don't respond like a #^&#^&#^&#^&

Pointing out that it's wrong to call people a retard, makes me an angry d*ck. You call someone a retardPull up the quote and lets see how I used it. , I call you out on it, and the character flaw is mine, not yours.

Whatever, Paul.

Whatever you angry dic k.

Here is the Special Olympics saying that word is "hate speech". Are they wrong, Paul? Are you correct and they're wrong?

You can't both be right. Who do you suppose, knows more about what's hurtful to that community? You, or the Special Olympics?

Have fun with that.


https://www.specialolympics.org/stories/impact/why-the-r-word-is-the-r-slur

So next time you're at a special olympic event use the work imbecile.

Have fun with that you angry dic k.

not how I remember it, either. thank you.

Paul, what are you afraid would happen if you told the truth?

How did I lie (is this like how you said AOC "mispoke in reference to Jan 6 but when I asked to point it you could never do that and kept attempting to give other examples)? bc that is how I remember it. Maybe Pete can provide a link.

So next time you're at a special olympic event use the work imbecile.

Have fun with that you angry dic k.

Tell you what. When you can post a link from a group as noble and respected as the Special Olympics saying that "imbecile" is hate speech, I'll apologize and never use the word again.

I'll happily be on the same side of this issue as Special Olympics. You can be on the other side, you and Archie Bunker.

And your using the word retard, thinking it's fine, and getting all bent out of shape about everyone else's language, is why I feel similarly. Stop being a hypocrite, I'll stop calling you a hypocrite.

"All peanuts for a billionaire."

It just came out that Biden and Harris had charitable donations well below the average for their income brackets. But that's OK.

Don't know about their donations but no one here is holding their donations up as paragon of virtue like you did - and have done numerous times with Trump. I don't think either has had to pay fines and close charities bc they were self dealing like Trump did.

How did I lie (is this like how you said AOC "mispoke in reference to Jan 6 but when I asked to point it you could never do that and kept attempting to give other examples)? bc that is how I remember it. Maybe Pete can provide a link.

Please. You tried to put a sinister spin on what TDF did, because you cannot bring yourself to criticize what Pete did.

Everything is OK when you guys do it. Everything. we get it.

I made it extremely clear how AOC lied about her experience on January 6. Crystal clear. But again, she's a democrats so she can't be wrong.

Tell you what. When you can post a link from a group as noble and respected as the Special Olympics saying that "imbecile" is hate speech, I'll apologize and never use the word again.

I'll happily be on the same side of this issue as Special Olympics. You can be on the other side, you and Archie Bunker.

Try using the word then.

Don't know about their donations

So you know every single unethical thing that every republican has ever done, you've got it all right at your fingertips. But you have no knowledge of the recent revelation that Biden and Harris are fairly stingy.

Isn't that convenient for you?

Try using the word then.

OK. You are an imbecile.

Please. You tried to put a sinister spin on what TDF did, because you cannot bring yourself to criticize what Pete did.I put no spin on anything. You're the one who repeatedly brings it up. A few months back Pete pulled it up and that is how I remember it. Why should I criticize Pete? He doesn't insult me so why would I insult him back? You should try not insulting people and she what happens.

Everything is OK when you guys do it. Everything. we get it.

I made it extremely clear how AOC lied about her experience on January 6. Crystal clear. But again, she's a democrats so she can't be wrong.

I must have missed it so pls. tell me how she lied Re: Ronnies quote.

OK. You are an imbecile.

See as I said - you are a D ick.

So you know every single unethical thing that every republican has ever doneDid you take your pills today? Have I ever said that? I do know that Trump is not and has never been generous. , you've got it all right at your fingertips. But you have no knowledge of the recent revelation that Biden and Harris are fairly stingy.I don't know if they are stingy or not.

Isn't that convenient for you?

Go take your medication.

See as I said - you are a D ick.

For the last time (this is a waste for both of us), I'm defending Special Olympians here, you are using what they consider to be hate speech ..

It's beyond me why anyone would do that, and then so adamantly deny they're doing anything wrong, but you have that right.

If saying it's wrong to use hate speech against those people makes me a d*ck, then that's what I am.

For the last time (this is a waste for both of us), I'm defending Special Olympians here, you are using what they consider to be hate speech .. So how am I using it?


It's beyond me why anyone would do that, and then so adamantly deny they're doing anything wrong, but you have that right.

If saying it's wrong to use hate speech against those people makes me a d*ck, then that's what I am.

You're a liar. How am I "using" it?

I said it once mocking the repubs. who had no problem with Trump making fun of a handicapped person and you have been saying I use it for what 2 years now. Shows what an angry #^&#^&#^&#^& you are.

Time to give yourself another time out.

You're a liar. How am I "using" it?

I said it once mocking the repubs. who had no problem with Trump making fun of a handicapped person and you have been saying I use it for what 2 years now. Shows what an angry #^&#^&#^&#^& you are.

Time to give yourself another time out.

good lord paul, you used it to mock someone if i remember correctly, and refuse to admit wrongdoing.

for the tenth time with trump, there’s video evidence of him using the same physical gestures to mock several others ( not disabled) who criticized him. in other words, there’s lots of evidence to show this is a normal reaction for him. not normal for a regular adult, but normal for him. this has been discussed many many times.

so unless you can read his mind, you have no way of knowing if he knew the reporter was disabled and was mocking that. if he was, it’s disgusting.

there’s plenty of irrefutable evidence of trump being a jerk. we dont need to make stuff up.

i don’t routinely defend his lack of morals. in this case, there’s lots of evidence your accusation is wrong.

why are you ignoring that?

time to change tampons.
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good lord paul, you used it to mock someone if i remember correctly, and refuse to admit wrongdoing.
Yes, I used it to mock you Trumplicans who dismissed everything vile he did including the reporter.
for the tenth time with trump, there’s video evidence of him using the same physical gestures to mock several others ( not disabled) who criticized him. in other words, there’s lots of evidence to show this is a normal reaction for him. not normal for a regular adult, but normal for him. this has been discussed many many times. So what is the jesture supposed to mean? It is demeaning .

so unless you can read his mind, you have no way of knowing if he knew the reporter was disabled and was mocking that. if he was, it’s disgusting. He knew who the reporter was and I believe the reporter actually interviewed him earlier.

there’s plenty of irrefutable evidence of trump being a jerk. we dont need to make stuff up.

i don’t routinely defend his lack of morals. in this case, there’s lots of evidence your accusation is wrong.

why are you ignoring that?Bc he knew who the guy was and mocked him and the holier than though evangelicals had no problems with his lack of morals.

time to change tampons. See this is why I think you are a D ick. You post something about Trump, I point out it is 33 years old and you have a hissy fit. So who is on their period?
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NM

Get a room

So far, the Republican Party has banned abortion, books, history lessons, and Disney, because they really, really, really hate cancel culture.
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the gesture might not mean he was poking fun at the guys condition, as he aimed that identical gesture at several people over the years who didn’t have that disability. the video is there paul. just watch it and you can decide what it means. regardless, it’s a stupid gesture meant to belittle
people who dared to criticize him. fair to call him out for that. But there’s a great chance that he had no idea this guy had any physical
challenges, therefore a great chance he wasn’t poking fun at his disability.

there are a large list of names you can call trump apologists. why not pick something that’s not deeply offensive to these families who haven’t done anything to you?

you’re acting like, well, like trump.

if you want to make fun of those who think trump is a saint, heck i don’t blame you. i do it all the time.

but there are a hundred insulting words you could have used, that special olympics doesn’t consider hate speech to that community.

seems like you went way out of your way to insist on that one specific word, then you stubbornly refuse to concede that there’s anything wrong with it.
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So far, the Republican Party has banned abortion,

Not yet. Probably not ever. Abortion is still available.

banned books,

No. Books are not banned. Plenty of books are available and are being published.

banned history lessons,

No. Republicans are very pro teaching history.

and banned Disney,

No. Disney is free to do what it does.

because they really, really, really hate cancel culture.
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You want to ban "conservativism" because you really, really, really hate it. But you do love using the expansion of the particular into the general propaganda trick.

You want to ban "conservativism" because you really, really, really hate it. But you do love using the expansion of the particular into the general propaganda trick.

banning pornography = banning books, right out of Orwell.

but liberals banning To Kill A Mockingbird is ok.
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the gesture might not mean he was poking fun at the guys condition, as he aimed that identical gesture at several people over the years who didn’t have that disability. the video is there paul. just watch it and you can decide what it means. regardless, it’s a stupid gesture meant to belittle
people who dared to criticize him. fair to call him out for that. But there’s a great chance that he had no idea this guy had any physical
challenges, therefore a great chance he wasn’t poking fun at his disability. He knew who the guy was and the reporter said they met repeatedly. So your saying it was just a coincidence?

there are a large list of names you can call trump apologists. why not pick something that’s not deeply offensive to these families who haven’t done anything to you?

you’re acting like, well, like trump.

if you want to make fun of those who think trump is a saint, heck i don’t blame you. i do it all the time.

but there are a hundred insulting words you could have used, that special olympics doesn’t consider hate speech to that community. And you use 000s of insulting words here - Including imbecile. So use imbecile the next time you volunteer at special olympics and see the reaction you get or one of the many words you use to insult woman around any normal woman and see the reaction you get. I used it once and you use vile words repeatedly so stop lecturing me.

seems like you went way out of your way to insist on that one specific word, then you stubbornly refuse to concede that there’s anything wrong with it.I have never said there is nothing wrong with it so stop lying (again)
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In an interview on Thursday, Mr. Kovaleski said that he met with Mr. Trump repeatedly when he was a reporter for The Daily News covering the developer’s business career in the late 1980s, before joining The Post. “Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years,” Mr. Kovaleski said. “I’ve interviewed him in his office,” he added. “I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News.”

In an interview on Thursday, Mr. Kovaleski said that he met with Mr. Trump repeatedly when he was a reporter for The Daily News covering the developer’s business career in the late 1980s, before joining The Post. “Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years,” Mr. Kovaleski said. “I’ve interviewed him in his office,” he added. “I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News.”

"So your saying it was just a coincidence?"

My god, man, for the tenth time...What I'm saying is there's video evidence of Trump making the same physical gestures over the years, to mock other people who he didn't like. Someone here posted the video. So obviously that's Trump's "go-to" gesture when he wants to mock somebody.

Either way, it's a very immature, stupid way to respond to someone who disagrees with you. But it's compelling evidence that Trump wasn't mocking the guy's disability.

Now, I'm not saying that's not what Trump was doing, either. He has made fun of people for being short and for looking funny, so he's not above making fun of someone's disability. But there's a meaningful chance that's not what he was doing here.

If you want to bash Trump, you could fill the oceans with irrefutable examples of him behaving horribly. We don't need to stretch the truth to show how deeply, deeply flawed he is.

If you find that unfair, I don't know what to tell you. I can criticize him every single time he does something disgusting. I don't need to reflexively defend every single thing he does, like you guys all do with democrats. But I can also admit when he does something good. You guys can't, and that's TDS.

"And you use 000s of insulting words here - Including imbecile. So use imbecile the next time you volunteer at special olympics and see the reaction you get or one of the many words you use to insult woman "

For the second time, if you can post a link from Special Olympics saying imbecile is hate speech, I will never use that word again, and I'll feel bad for having ever used it. But I couldn't find such a news story. As we both know, I did find a clip from Special Olympics saying clearly that the language you use, does constitute hate speech towards their community.

You used that word, not me. Your language, not mine, is universally considered to be hurtful to those people.

You're the only person on this forum that I know of, who has gone tattling to the moderators about what others (only the conservatives, naturally) have said. But you insist it's OK for you to use that word and other similar language.

You're like the kid in school who does something, and when someone does it back to him, he goes tattling to the grown-ups. Who doesn't love the kid who does that? Right?

I don't insult "women", there's that lying again. I insulted Hilary, who is as morally bankrupt as a person can get. She married a predator, she lied to protect him (said the republicans were framing him with the Lewinski story) and then she went on national TV and slut-shamed his victims. Classy! She's a morally bankrupt c--t.

That's not insulting "women". It's insulting her, and she deserves it every bit as much as Trump does.

You can't admit that, because she's a democrat. That's all that matters to you.

Why are all women tied to criticism of one woman? Why is it insulting all women, if I insult one woman?

You want to ban "conservativism" because you really, really, really hate it. But you do love using the expansion of the particular into the general propaganda trick.

The irony is that conservative principles are actually the antidote to Trumpism. Trumpism violates norms, upends US institutions, destabilizes the transfer of power, treats corruption as a spoil of office & abuses gov’t power to punish domestic enemies. It conserves nothing.
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"So your saying it was just a coincidence?"

My god, man, for the tenth time...What I'm saying is there's video evidence of Trump making the same physical gestures over the years, to mock other people who he didn't like. Someone here posted the video. So obviously that's Trump's "go-to" gesture when he wants to mock somebody.So What. He knew the guy and he still did it!! My God don't you understand for the tenth time?

Either way, it's a very immature, stupid way to respond to someone who disagrees with you. But it's compelling evidence that Trump wasn't mocking the guy's disability.

Now, I'm not saying that's not what Trump was doing, either. He has made fun of people for being short and for looking funny, so he's not above making fun of someone's disability. But there's a meaningful chance that's not what he was doing here.

If you want to bash Trump, you could fill the oceans with irrefutable examples of him behaving horribly. We don't need to stretch the truth to show how deeply, deeply flawed he is.

If you find that unfair, I don't know what to tell you. I can criticize him every single time he does something disgusting. I don't need to reflexively defend every single thing he does, like you guys all do with democrats. But I can also admit when he does something good. You guys can't, and that's TDS.I don't defend them and thats a lie. You post constantly and bash Dems constantly. So I pretty much ignore most of what you post. However, using a 33 years old example of Trump's generosity is too much while ignoring the self dealing w/his charities is crazy.

"And you use 000s of insulting words here - Including imbecile. So use imbecile the next time you volunteer at special olympics and see the reaction you get or one of the many words you use to insult woman "

For the second time, if you can post a link from Special Olympics saying imbecile is hate speech, I will never use that word again, and I'll feel bad for having ever used it. But I couldn't find such a news story. As we both know, I did find a clip from Special Olympics saying clearly that the language you use, does constitute hate speech towards their community.I don't care whether there is a link or not.. Trying using it there and see the reaction you get.

You used that word, not me. Your language, not mine, is universally considered to be hurtful to those people.

You're the only person on this forum that I know of, who has gone tattling to the moderators about what others (only the conservatives, naturally) have said. But you insist it's OK for you to use that word and other similar language.I didn't tattle. So your lying again. Bruce posted the rules in response to the vile posts from SeaDangles and I asked why bother posting the rules if they allow Seadangles to do what he wants and ignores the rules.

You're like the kid in school who does something, and when someone does it back to him, he goes tattling to the grown-ups. Who doesn't love the kid who does that? Right?And your an angry boy who when called out about using a 33 year old story from another century lashes out and starts insulting people. Maybe you were on your period and were menstruating (to use the word you throw out there constantly) - why are you so infatuated w/woman's periods that you mention it constantly. seems bizarre.

I don't insult "women", there's that lying again. I insulted Hilary, who is as morally bankrupt as a person can get. She married a predator, she lied to protect him (said the republicans were framing him with the Lewinski story) and then she went on national TV and slut-shamed his victims. Classy! She's a morally bankrupt c--t. See that is insulting but you think it is ok. You used to say the same type of things about Rosie D. also. but in your mind it is ok.

That's not insulting "women". It's insulting her, and she deserves it every bit as much as Trump does.

You can't admit that, because she's a democrat. That's all that matters to you.No woman deserves to be called that.

Why are all women tied to criticism of one woman? Why is it insulting all women, if I insult one woman?

I just gave you an example of someone else you insulted constantly. So you just got caught lying again.

I just gave you an example of someone else you insulted constantly. So you just got caught lying again.

WDMSO said there’s no good in Trump.

I posted a nice story of trump donating his jet, after the commercial
airlines all told this family to go kick rocks.

you were dismissive of the story because it was old

So i posted many, many links of his recent generosity.

You said chump change for a billionaire

I agreed, but asked why you didn’t care that biden and harris were shown to be stingy.

you claimed to not know what i was referring to.

a perfect example. you deny and dismiss everything that could
make trump look like a human being. and you deny and dismiss anything that paints democrats in a negative light.

doesn’t matter what it is, the conservative is always wrong and the liberal is always right.
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I just gave you an example of someone else you insulted constantly. So you just got caught lying again.

"I don't care whether there is a link or not.. "

You don't care that the Special Olympics begs people not to use that word. Good for you! Don't let them tell you what to do.

"I didn't tattle. So your lying again. Bruce posted the rules in response to the vile posts from SeaDangles and I asked why bother posting the rules if they allow Seadangles to do what he wants and ignores the rules."

Oh, I see. You didn't "tattle". You merely asked the moderator why he wasn't punishing someone (naturally a conservative!) for breaking the rules. And that's very, very different from tattling, because.........

What you did, is the textbook definition of tattling.

"See that is insulting but you think it is ok."

I don't deny that I insulted Hilary. That was deliberate. I deny that I'm insulting anyone else, when I insult Hilary. When I am very obviously singling out Hilary, it's not my fault if that's traumatic for your delicate sensibilities.

Are you insulting all men when you insult Trump?

So it's OK for you to insult a specific individual. But when I do it, somehow I'm insulting the entire demographic that the person falls into.

When liberals insult, say, Sarah Palin, they are only insulting her, so that's OK. But when I insult Hilary, you say I am insulting all women.

That just reeks of consistency and common sense, Paul.

It's totally fine for you to use hate speech, but you cry to TDF when Dangles does it.

Everything is always OK when the left does it.

"I don't care whether there is a link or not.. "

You don't care that the Special Olympics begs people not to use that word. Good for you! Don't let them tell you what to do.So when are you going to use the word imbecile at the next SO event?

"I didn't tattle. So your lying again. Bruce posted the rules in response to the vile posts from SeaDangles and I asked why bother posting the rules if they allow Seadangles to do what he wants and ignores the rules."

Oh, I see. You didn't "tattle". You merely asked the moderator why he wasn't punishing someone (naturally a conservative!) for breaking the rules. And that's very, very different from tattling, because.....bc the hypocrisy of his posting the rules and then ignoring them is funny....

What you did, is the textbook definition of tattling. No it's not but say what you want bc I think you are a d ick

"See that is insulting but you think it is ok."

I don't deny that I insulted Hilary. That was deliberate. I deny that I'm insulting anyone else, when I insult Hilary. When I am very obviously singling out Hilary, it's not my fault if that's traumatic for your delicate sensibilities.

Are you insulting all men when you insult Trump?

So it's OK for you to insult a specific individual. But when I do it, somehow I'm insulting the entire demographic that the person falls into.

When liberals insult, say, Sarah Palin, they are only insulting her, so that's OK. But when I insult Hilary, you say I am insulting all women.

That just reeks of consistency and common sense, Paul.

It's totally fine for you to use hate speechI used it once - far less than you used imbecile, but you cry to TDF when Dangles does it. I didn't cry I asked

Everything is always OK when the left does it.

No, one ever said it was, did they?

WDMSO said there’s no good in Trump.

I posted a nice story of trump donating his jet, after the commercial
airlines all told this family to go kick rocks.

you were dismissive of the story because it was oldyes, 33 years old and for a billionaire minor

So i posted many, many links of his recent generosity.

You said chump change for a billionaireIt is

I agreed, but asked why you didn’t care that biden and harris were shown to be stingy.Bc you wrote about Trump so that is who we were talking about.

you claimed to not know what i was referring to.Not sure what you mean here

a perfect example. you deny and dismiss everything that could
make trump look like a human being. and you deny and dismiss anything that paints democrats in a negative light.

doesn’t matter what it is, the conservative is always wrong and the liberal is always right.
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And his 10K donation is nothing for a billionaire. He self dealt w/his charity and was ripping it off.

And his 10K donation is nothing for a billionaire. He self dealt w/his charity and was ripping it off.

i’m not saying Trump is a good person. you keep responding as if you somehow think that’s what i’m saying.

he has done some good things. if
you want to argue a billionaire should do more good than he does, i agree with you 100%. A hundred percent.

my intent wasn’t to show he is good. My intent was to show that juts wrong to say he’s never done anything good. My intent was to show that he has, and improved it beyond any doubt.

Saying he should do more good, is a different question. A very different question.

Everything has to be all or nothing with you guys. He has to be pure evil.

Why does trump advocate for school choice? His kids are never going to be stuck in crappy urban schools, so it’s never going to benefit him or his kids. Yet he’s passionate about school
choice.

Why?

You might argue that he’s only doing it to placate his conservative base.

But then why did he advocate for the criminal justice reform that liberals have wanted for decades, and worth noting they obama
didn’t give liberals even though the democrats controlled congress for his first 2 years?

Many conservatives hated trumps criminal justice reform, including me. But he did it.

Why?

And why can’t liberals give him credit for delivering something they have been asking for, and which Bush and Obama refused to give them?
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The irony is that conservative principles are actually the antidote to Trumpism. Trumpism violates norms, upends US institutions, destabilizes the transfer of power, treats corruption as a spoil of office & abuses gov’t power to punish domestic enemies. It conserves nothing.
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One of the reasons I put "conservative" or "conservatism" in quotes is that it depends on who is defining what the principles of it are. Their are various and numerous definitions. It is what you want it to be.

Here is one defining list of principals for political "conservatism" provided by Congressman Mike Johnson--the rule of law, limited government, peace through strength, fiscal responsibility, free markets, and human dignity. Trump has abided by the laws until proven otherwise. He is far more for limited government than Progressives and you are.He certainly provided for American strength, he was typically fiscally responsible/irresponsible with government spending, he was more free market oriented then Progressives (even his China tariffs were an attempt to free up Trade for American products with China), and he valued human dignity more than Progressivism would, as in: "Because all men are created equal and in the image of God, every human life has inestimable dignity and value, and every person should be measured only by the content of their character. A just government protects life, honors marriage and family as the primary institutions of a healthy society, and embraces the vital cultural influences of religion and morality. Public policy should always encourage education and emphasize the virtue of hard work as a pathway out of-poverty, while public assistance programs should be reserved only for those who are truly in need. In America, everyone who plays by the rules should get a fair shot. By preserving these ideals, we will maintain the goodness of America that has been the secret to our greatness."

"Norms" have a bit of the same problem. Whose "norms"? Yours? Your political norm says that conservatism leads to tyranny.

Progressivism has been "upending," as you put it, U.S. institutions far more effectively than you think Trump has since it began gripping power.

The transfer of power has been stable, regardless of complaints and demonstrations. It's a politicized red herring to claim that Trump destabilized it, or that there is some principle of "Trumpism" to destabilize the transfer of power.

Corruption as a spoil of office and using government power to "punish" anyone, including domestic enemies are nothing new or uncommon or particularly "Trumpist." Progressives are no more pure in office than anyone else. Actually, they are pretty efficient at "punishing" their enemies.

I don't know if I am a "conservative." I have not labeled myself. Except possibly to the degree that I want to conserve many of our founding principles, especially the protection of individual liberty protected by our constitutional order.

Progressivism seeks to change that order, and create a central State that controls every aspect of our lives, dictating exactly what our rights as individuals are depending on the current whims of elitist "experts." It seems to me that you would prefer such a State.

It really is just a question of whether you believe that government should be: (A) competent, efficient and non-intrusive, or (B) discredited and ultimately destroyed.

Conservatives have always straddled between A and B. Trump just ended the straddle and went all B.
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It really is just a question of whether you believe that government should be: (A) competent, efficient and non-intrusive, or (B) discredited and ultimately destroyed.

Conservatives have always straddled between A and B. Trump just ended the straddle and went all B.
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Most forms of government can be (A). The NAZIs were very competent and efficient.

All governments are (B). Our constitutional republican form is one of the least intrusive. Progressivism is far more intrusive than our founded constitutional order.

Your choice of what "It really is just a question of" doesn't value freedom or individual liberty or unalienable rights as part of the question. Which is right in line with Progressivism. Probably because Freedom, individual liberty, and unalienable rights mess with the efficiency of government. That's actually one of the reasons Progressivism doesn't embrace those values. Authoritarian forms of government consider it right and competent when the ruling elite "experts" distribute whatever rights it deems efficiently workable in and through the governing system they impose.

Most forms of government can be (A). The NAZIs were very competent and efficient.

All governments are (B). Our constitutional republican form is one of the least intrusive. Progressivism is far more intrusive than our founded constitutional order.

Your choice of what "It really is just a question of" doesn't value freedom or individual liberty or unalienable rights as part of the question. Which is right in line with Progressivism. Probably because Freedom, individual liberty, and unalienable rights mess with the efficiency of government. That's actually one of the reasons Progressivism doesn't embrace those values. Authoritarian forms of government consider it right and competent when the ruling elite "experts" distribute whatever rights it deems efficiently workable in and through the governing system they impose.

You always seem confused about what you think the founders thought and where we are close to 250 years later.

As in what books, marriages, speech and religions are allowable?
Qualified immunity for police so they can be above the law?
Government control of corporate decisions as in Floriduh?
Political parties having control of government?
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You always seem confused about what you think the founders thought and where we are close to 250 years later.

As in what books, marriages, speech and religions are allowable?
Qualified immunity for police so they can be above the law?
Government control of corporate decisions as in Floriduh?
Political parties having control of government?
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What I am confused about is your point.

You keep claiming to have the simple answers, meanwhile your party had years to pass an alternative to “Obamacare”
Never did it
Had years to pas an infrastructure bill
Never did it
Had years to change the status in the Middle East
Never did it
Governing isn’t attacking the other side.
Governing is getting #^&#^&#^&#^& done.
The Trumplicans or Christian Dominionists are not a governing party, because they’re all about power and it’s not that they're particularly religious really--they just want to use belief as a means to force a restrictive society in which they are on top and they can go after people they dislike.
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You keep claiming to have the simple answers,

Your lack of specificity leaves no basis for a reply.
WTF are you talking about?

meanwhile your party

It's not my party. It's the lesser (much lesser) of two evils.

had years to pass an alternative to “Obamacare”
Never did it

I don't want an alternative. I don't want the federal government mandating any form of health care. If the people want government health care it should be left to the individual states and their citizens to concoct it.

Had years to pas an infrastructure bill
Never did it

Party politics is a b*tch. I would like the federal government to pass a whole lot less bills. Passing bills is an area that I want the fed to get a lot less "done." If the need for a bill that the fed is constitutionally responsible for is really needed, ALL parties should get together and make it so.

Had years to change the status in the Middle East
Never did it

The status in the Middle East is ever changing and it is not the sole responsibility of American government to dictate the change. Several administrations of both parties claimed they had "solved" something there that they actually didn't. I assume by change there you mean make it better there for the US. I don't think that's doable until the people of the Middle East have a major change in their culture and religion. Unless you want us to go in there like the Communists and other dictatorial, authoritarian, despotic regimes have done throughout history and just destroy those countries and "nation build."

Governing isn’t attacking the other side.
Governing is getting #^&#^&#^&#^& done.

Depends on the type of government. Our constitutional system is geared to leaving most of the "getting things done" in the hands of the people first, their local and state governments responding to the people's will second, and a distant third to the federal government taking care of the very limited responsibilities given to it in the constitution.

Your authoritarian Progressive idea of government getting things done is the federal or some central government authority lording over the entire country and telling us what needs to "get done." And spending exorbitant amounts of money, and creating scads of regulatory agencies and thousands of bills to "get done" stuff whether the people want it or need it or could do it better at local levels. And getting the entire country constantly into greater unsustainable debt. And leaving less and less room, in the midst of this constant getting things done, for the people's expression of their once unalienable rights.

The Trumplicans or Christian Dominionists are not a governing party, because they’re all about power and it’s not that they're particularly religious really--they just want to use belief as a means to force a restrictive society in which they are on top and they can go after people they dislike.
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Actually, Christians and Theists never wanted to be an earthly, secular, governing party. They did want a society in which they were free to practice their religion and godly beliefs. That's one of the main reasons they created a governing document that made sacrosanct all the individual rights that they did not grant government power over.

PeteFicans see that as an impediment to competent and efficient government, and see centralized authoritarian government as the solution to whatever ails us--and "as a means to force a restrictive society in which they are on top and they can go after people they dislike"--and so much more. That is the efficient, competent, beauty of the Progressive way.

And what does all that nonsense have to do with your point in "You always seem confused about what you think the founders thought and where we are close to 250 years later.

As in what books, marriages, speech and religions are allowable?
Qualified immunity for police so they can be above the law?
Government control of corporate decisions as in Floriduh?
Political parties having control of government?"

I still don't see whatever point you were making with that unhinged cluster of words.

Not very observant are you
There’s a party that wants to control books that are allowed, who’s allowed to marry, what’s acceptable speech and what religions are permissible.
Supports qualified immunity.
Thinks that financial retribution is appropriate reaction to criticism of a political act.
And as McConnell said, one party places itself above country.
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Not very observant are you
There’s a party that wants to control books that are allowed,

I don't know which party wants to control books or not allow books. As far as which books are in public schools, that's a local issue, and rightly so. I don't know which party or which constituents in our various local districts throughout the US would allow every and any book in their public school systems. And selectivity of books has always been part of our public and private school systems.

I would guess that Democrat or Progressive school systems would not allow books that had anti-lgbtqetc. content, among others.

who’s allowed to marry,

Don't know which party prescribes who can marry. Their are differences in legal conceptions of what marriage is.
For purposes of supporting and sustaining the birth of children in order to be able to generate and maintain society, specified requirements were created by our government(s). It was taken for granted that a union of a man and a woman was needed to create children. Now, of course, men can be women, so the distinction no longer seems to be necessary as, no doubt, men who identify as women can menstruate and so must be able to have babies. Progressives, as you see, follow the science.

In any case, it was not a party issue whether any two or more people could have some ceremony that says they are married. It simply wasn't a legally binding "marriage" and could not, if the brides and grooms were the same sex, tap into government resources which were meant to support child bearing.

Although I understand the child bearing argument, I don't think government, certainly not the federal government, should regulate marriage.

what’s acceptable speech

Concern for which party wants to decide what's acceptable speech coming from you is amazing. You have stated that conservatism should not be tolerated. That conservative speech should be ignored, not given any tolerance or consideration. And that point of view holds sway with our Progressive cancel culture which shouts down conservative speakers on campus, and the canceling is mostly backed by the Progressive university and college administrators. Conservative speech is more likely to be censored on social media. Anti-lgbtqetc. speech is not allowed in our public and higher education systems, or social media, or legacy media--most all of which are Progressive (Democrat). And Progressives definitely do not consider racist speech acceptable and they have made racism out of things that do not actually pertain to what used to be considered race. Almost everything for them can somehow be considered racial. Their pet Critical Race Theory centers race as the reason for all inequality in America.

In the case of "what's acceptable speech" part of the Progressive tactical procedure is to command the redefinition of societally critical words, such as racism--command the language and you command the discourse. Commanding what words mean and which words are acceptable will determine what acceptable speech is.


and what religions are permissible.

Progressivism, socialism, communism, and to a great extant if we are honest about it, the Democrat Party are anti-religion. As for conservatives, all religions are "permissible" so long as they do not espouse and encourage the destruction of our constitutional order. That would apply to any group, religious or not.

Supports qualified immunity.

Democrats certainly say they are against it more than Republicans do.

Thinks that financial retribution is appropriate reaction to criticism of a political act.

It could well be, depending on the circumstances. Of course, labeling it "financial retribution" could be inappropriate. And "criticism" of a political act could be more than that, it could be an attempt to sabotage the act, and the act could be supported by the people. And the critic/saboteur could be a giant corporation, an oligarch that influences government and people at all levels and benefits from Citizens United--which should make it a controller of government that you disapprove of.

And as McConnell said, one party places itself above country.


We know how you love McConnell.

Pres Trump: “We grew the conservative movement into a working people’s movement… And we are never ever going back… Our movement must continue to pursue a populist-nationalist economic agenda that puts working families before globalist politicians…”
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You can always follow the money

Ron DeSantis has banned all K-5 math textbook publishers from the state of Florida except one: the company owned by fellow GOP governor Glenn Youngkin's private equity firm.
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The alleged conservatives here have claimed for years that the private sector does things better than government. Reedy Creek is a great example of this. Republicans have now abandoned that philosophy over their hurt feelings.
Locals joke when they cross over into Disney property how the roads are flawlessly smooth asphalt. “Why can’t Mickey take over I-4?”

Maybe Disney will secede from Floriduh, though since DeathSantis only won by 32,000 votes in 2018, there’s 80,000 Disney employees in Florida and 70,000 Floridians died of COVID…….I would guess they’ll let him be like Jafar and watch him turn himself into a Genie in a bottle

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Maybe Disney will secede from Floriduh

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Key West did in the early 80's....they still celebrate it

You can always follow the money

Ron DeSantis has banned all K-5 math textbook publishers from the state of Florida except one: the company owned by fellow GOP governor Glenn Youngkin's private equity firm.
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Apparently that was the only publisher that didn't have inappropriate content. Good choice.

The alleged conservatives here have claimed for years that the private sector does things better than government. Reedy Creek is a great example of this. Republicans have now abandoned that philosophy over their hurt feelings.
Locals joke when they cross over into Disney property how the roads are flawlessly smooth asphalt. “Why can’t Mickey take over I-4?”

Maybe Disney will secede from Floriduh, though since DeathSantis only won by 32,000 votes in 2018, there’s 80,000 Disney employees in Florida and 70,000 Floridians died of COVID…….I would guess they’ll let him be like Jafar and watch him turn himself into a Genie in a bottle

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Hypocrite anti-corporations-running-government Pete sides with huge corporation and gleefully suggesting it secedes and creates its own corporately run government. And he so deftly demonstrates how the private sector does things better than the government--even though he is in favor of authoritarian government "getting things done."

Yea, fascism works well

Gov. Greg Abbott's "enhanced" truck inspections turned up zero drugs or migrants, but cost Texas consumers and businesses an estimated $4.2 billion.
Delays resulted in $240 million in spoiled produce alone.
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Yea, fascism works well

Gov. Greg Abbott's "enhanced" truck inspections turned up zero drugs or migrants, but cost Texas consumers and businesses an estimated $4.2 billion.
Delays resulted in $240 million in spoiled produce alone.
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Not fascism. But you would probably prefer fascism.

Yea, fascism works well

Gov. Greg Abbott's "enhanced" truck inspections turned up zero drugs or migrants, but cost Texas consumers and businesses an estimated $4.2 billion.
Delays resulted in $240 million in spoiled produce alone.
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The conservatism of DeSantis and Abbott is perfectly recognizable. It’s not the American conservatism of Reagan to Romney (which may well prove an anomaly in the history of conservatism), it’s the European conservatism of the 1920s and early 1930s.

The $4.2 billion that Greg Abbott burned at the border could have fixed the Texas power grid.
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The conservatism of DeSantis and Abbott is perfectly recognizable. It’s not the American conservatism of Reagan to Romney (which may well prove an anomaly in the history of conservatism), it’s the European conservatism of the 1920s and early 1930s.

The quality or character of "conservatism" in different decades of American history changed with the social and political challenge that it faced in each era. The political persuasions of DeSantis and Abbot far more resemble Reagan and Romney's "conservatism" than that of Biden and the Dems.

My favorite 20th century "conservative" President was Coolidge. Reagan was close at number 2. They faced different qualities of Progressive leftism. Coolidge fought a Wilsonian Progressivism still somewhat linked to the Constitution and to traditional social and religious values. Reagan's nemesis was the more entrenched Progressivism of the "living, breathing" Constitution created by the FDR administration with its deep infiltration by the Communist Party, and a Democrat Party that had progressed much farther to the left of Wilsons and still had various roots in its FDR era ties to communism.

The "conservatives" of today are up against a thoroughly anti-constitutional, unlimited power Progressive from of government in the Democrat Party which still has ties with the Communist Party, and has created a regulatory system that favors the rise and dominance of both government and corporate centralization--and the symbiosis of both behemoths into a fascistic government, corporate, media, military complex that has a stranglehold on the governance of this country.

The struggle of "conservatism" today is preserving what is left of constitutional limitations on central power, and recovering, bit by bit, the constitutional power of state and local governments and the regrowth of individual unalienable rights that have withered through the onslaught of federally, unconstitutional, rights of centralized (collective) groups.

The comparison is more correctly between eras of "conservatism" in this country than between current American "conservatism" to various eras of European "conservatism" which is far more centralized on a national level than American "conservatism." DeSantis and Abbot "conservatism," whatever that may be, can only be expressed at state levels and may not reflect or even have a connection to national "conservatism" in terms of federal policy. The rise of a Hitler or Mussolini would be very difficult here. Nor even in Texas or Florida. I see no real connection between Abbot and DeSantis to Hitler.

Actually, the only way a totalitarian government can be implanted here is by scrapping the Constitution, or by "interpreting" it out of original existence into some authoritarian governing document, or just disregarding it. Any of those is precisely a goal of the Progressive agenda.


The $4.2 billion that Greg Abbott burned at the border could have fixed the Texas power grid.


30 trillion++ debt that the federal government has burned by overspending could have "fixed" a whole lot more than the Texas power grid.

The federal government consistently spends more than it takes in (and it takes in more than it constitutionally should). Texas is among the most fiscally responsible states. According to Invester's Business Daily--"Alaska leads all states in money socked away. Other states that took in considerably more than they spent included North Dakota, Wyoming, Utah, Montana, Idaho, and Texas."

Here is something fascinating to me: Macron had nearly exact same job approval rating as President Biden does today and he just won 58% of the vote.
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Here is something fascinating to me: Macron had nearly exact same job approval rating as President Biden does today and he just won 58% of the vote.
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Does it fascinate you that if Biden and the Dems get reelected we will become more like France?

Does it fascinate you that if Biden and the Dems get reelected we will become more like France?

Better France than Hungary
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Better France than Hungary
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Interesting. Would you prefer the US to be like France? Would you prefer us being like France more than being like Sweden or Denmark or Switzerland? Would you prefer any of those governments to what the US is now?

Interesting. Would you prefer the US to be like France? Would you prefer us being like France more than being like Sweden or Denmark or Switzerland? Would you prefer any of those governments to what the US is now?

Silly fascist, I’d prefer a functioning government that didn’t decide what to support only on the basis of what your leaders told you to support.
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Silly fascist, I’d prefer a functioning government that didn’t decide what to support only on the basis of what your leaders told you to support.
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It's telling that you would say someone who supports the U.S. Constitution and limited government with separation of powers to prevent the centralization of American governance is a fascist. Even more so since you're the one that supports the Progressive notion that authoritarianism is necessary in order to pass Progressive legislation.

The authoritarian calls the individualist a fascist. That's the kind of propaganda a fascist would spread.

It's telling that you would say someone who supports the U.S. Constitution and limited government with separation of powers to prevent the centralization of American governance is a fascist. Even more so since you're the one that supports the Progressive notion that authoritarianism is necessary in order to pass Progressive legislation.

The authoritarian calls the individualist a fascist. That's the kind of propaganda a fascist would spread.

it’s not worth it. just ignore him.

you fascist!!
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it’s not worth it. just ignore him.

you fascist!!
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Every right wing accusation is a confession.

Whether it's self loathing or insecurity pushing them, if they are accusing people of something they are doing it.
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Every right wing accusation is a confession.

Whether it's self loathing or insecurity pushing them, if they are accusing people of something they are doing it.
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Every post by you is a confession. When you accuse "conservatives" of something, your Progressive authoritarians are doing it. I doubt that it is self loathing. Maybe insecurity. Probably just lying.

The modern Republican playbook. First you lie. Next you lie about lying. And then you lie about lying about lying, ad infinitum.
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The modern Republican playbook. First you lie. Next you lie about lying. And then you lie about lying about lying, ad infinitum.
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Lying Pete is reduced to blather.

Do we care that a former President of the United States has been held in contempt of court and fined for failing to comply with a judicial subpoena concerning potential evidence of financial fraud or is that just #267 on the list of priorities these days
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Do we care that a former President of the United States has been held in contempt of court and fined for failing to comply with a judicial subpoena concerning potential evidence of financial fraud or is that just #267 on the list of priorities these days
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After all the investigations, impeachments, trials, accusations, against him for the past five or six years and that continue on and on . . . one tends to get numb to their existence. But feel free to care.