No discussion.
What a shocker.

:jester:

Oh boy conspiracy theory movie, when is the trailer on, is it on Netflix or what? Amazing no court found any issue, Barr a bid time Trumper said is was a fair election, but a far right network has a movie to prove there were ballot stuffers.

Trump won in 2016, he lost in 2020. It's that simple.

Interesting that Biden's new press secretary, replacing Psaki, has said explicitly, that Trump stole the 2016 election from Hilary.

And Stacey Abrams said her loss was an election stolen from the GA voters.

Somehow, it's OK when democrats make baseless claims of fraud to explain a loss, but it's paranoid lunacy when Republicans do it. It's very convenient for the liberals, I'll say that.

Big Brother strikes again. YouTube removed the video.

Big Brother strikes again. YouTube removed the video.

….and the brain trust here will cheer it on :hihi:

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2000 miles is all over newsmax it’s a true Believer’s safe space . And a good barometer of what’s next to show up in the main stream GOP

That’s where grooming got it’s start

And guess who started it Christopher Rufo,

The same guy who started the CRT outrage . Shocking

Who made 2000 mules Dinesh D'Souza's upset he’s not making money I’m sorry to say Tucker Carlson and his team specifically instructed Catherine Engelbrecht of True the Vote NOT to mention the movie..
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Big Brother strikes again. YouTube removed the video.

Go to rumble and pay for it like the rest of the true believers

Big brother had nothing to do with removing it . I am sure Dinesh D'Souza, lawyers however did
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It should be called 2 million sheep
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:happy::happy::happy::happy:It should be called 2 million sheep
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Just look at Russia and how almost everyone in that country has been duped by their media into thinking Ukraine is full of nazis who were planning on invading Russia. It’s all about what “news” you want to pollute yourself with that will dictate how you think.
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You don’t see any irony in that statement, huh? Hmmm
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[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1226721]Trump won in 2016, he lost in 2020. It's that simple.



If you really believe a guy with Dimensia that campaigned from his basement, can barely put together 2 back to back coherent sentences unless he’s reading a teleprompter…… got 81 million votes (millions more than Obama)..
You’re as bad as these pathetic bastards that post in the political forum every single day.
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[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1226721]Trump won in 2016, he lost in 2020. It's that simple.



If you really believe a guy with Dimensia that campaigned from his basement, can barely put together 2 back to back coherent sentences unless he’s reading a teleprompter…… got 81 million votes (millions more than Obama)..
You’re as bad as these pathetic bastards that post in the political forum every single day.
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the guy with dementia (1) had the entire media except for foxnews, campaigning hard for him. And (2) he was running against Trump, who is by far the most obnoxious and boorish person who’s ever held the office. We also had a pandemic and race riots ( which trump could
have stopped if he wanted to, and should have in my opinion) leading up to the election.

I liked trump and voted for him. i don’t have trouble believing that a majority of voters were tired of his
antics

If he could have just toned down the vindictive insults. but he can’t.

no one voted “for” Biden. They voted against Trump. those are different things.

I loved his policies and his results, best president since Ike in my opinion if Roe gets overturned. . But he could not have done more to turn people off. that’s his fault.
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I see that MAGA world after some early vacillation seems to have made up its mind it will follow Tucker Carlson/Glenn Greenwald to oppose US aid to Ukraine and favor a pro-Russia resolution of the invasion.
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E Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) has introduced a bill making changes to U.S. copyright law, reducing the time large companies can hold copyright on, say, a cartoon mouse. Hawley’s news release does not conceal the target of his ire, calling it a “bill to strip woke corporations like Disney of special copyright protections.”

It’s all Republicans got culture war nonsense

No health care no ideas on inflation

But they are going to show Mickey how real Rats operate..
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[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie;1226733]

the guy with dementia (1) had the entire media except for foxnews, campaigning hard for him. And (2) he was running against Trump, who is by far the most obnoxious and boorish person who’s ever held the office. We also had a pandemic and race riots ( which trump could
have stopped if he wanted to, and should have in my opinion) leading up to the election.

I liked trump and voted for him. i don’t have trouble believing that a majority of voters were tired of his
antics

If he could have just toned down the vindictive insults. but he can’t.

no one voted “for” Biden. They voted against Trump. those are different things.

I loved his policies and his results, best president since Ike in my opinion if Roe gets overturned. . But he could not have done more to turn people off. that’s his fault.
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[QUOTE=Raider Ronnie;1226733]

the guy with dementia (1) had the entire media except for foxnews, campaigning hard for him. And (2) he was running against Trump, who is by far the most obnoxious and boorish person who’s ever held the office. We also had a pandemic and race riots ( which trump could
have stopped if he wanted to, and should have in my opinion) leading up to the election.

I liked trump and voted for him. i don’t have trouble believing that a majority of voters were tired of his
antics

If he could have just toned down the vindictive insults. but he can’t.

no one voted “for” Biden. They voted against Trump. those are different things.

I loved his policies and his results, best president since Ike in my opinion if Roe gets overturned. . But he could not have done more to turn people off. that’s his fault.
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Joe Biden: “Under my predecessor — the great MAGA king — the deficit increased every year that he was president.”
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[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1226734]

Joe Biden: “Under my predecessor — the great MAGA king — the deficit increased every year that he was president.”
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also joe biden: “ i will take responsibility, and not blame others.”

Also Biden : “I will be a unifier, not a divider.”.

when you cannot point to any real policy successes, you demonize the opposition. Bidens polling reveals what america thinks of that strategy.

covid struck during the tenure of bidens predecessor, he forgot to mention that was obviously a huge part of driving up deficits. though it’s fair to say trump spent way too much.

Biden blanes covid for inflation and gas prices, but won’t say covid was a driver of deficits during the trump years.

Biden can use covid as an excuse for every bad thing on his watch, but Trump can’t. Sounds fair.
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Silly, the MAGA King was elected in 2016
Covid-19 started in……
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Silly, the MAGA King was elected in 2016
Covid-19 started in……
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in very early 2020, when trump was potus. you’re saying it was his fault that covid came to america?

All righteee... If a president owns everything that happens on his watch, let's look at what Biden owns...once-in-40-year inflation, surging crime, all time high gas prices, surging border crossings, record high drug overdose deaths, lack of baby formula, Russia on the march, a whole lot of his own covid deaths, shrinking GDP, bear markets on wall street...did I miss anything?

mags king isn’t going to win the independents when gas is $4.50 , and chicken costs what steak used to cost and moms literally can’t get baby formula, and our adversaries obviously emboldened like Russia. Crime soaring, illegal crossings soaring ( not going to help the democrats in AZ).

But saying “maga king” is a good strategy in the face of all that. Stick with that. That'll work in November.

Look at what polling is saying Hispanics are thinking. If that polling is within 10 points of being correct (and maybe it's not, it's hard to believe), it’s all over for your side. Done. Caput. Sayanora. I would add vaya con dios, but your side hates God so I'll spare you that insult...


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in very early 2020, when trump
was potus. you’re saying it was his fault that covid came to america?

You feeling ok?

mags king isn’t going to win the independents when gas is $4.50 , and chicken costs what steak used to cost and moms literally can’t get baby formula, and our adversaries obviously emboldened like Russia. Crime soaring, illegal crossings soaring ( not going to help the democrats in AZ).

oh, and the S&P500 is a cats whisker away from being down 20%, which is official bear market territory. the one thing he had going for him, is now also collapsing.

But saying “maga king” is a good strategy in the face of all that. Stick with that.

Look at what polling is saying Hispanics are thinking. If that polling is within 10 points of being correct, it’s all over.
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As others have posted voters, or at least those without the ability to really think through cause and affect, take the easy way out and blame the sitting president (red or blue). Thinking Biden caused high gas prices, supply shortages and the resulting inflation is taking the easy way out.

The United States has done a good job of distancing ourselves from Russia’s oil industry, even though Russia is the second-largest oil producer in the world. Russia accounts for just 7 percent of total US Oil Imports, meaning we are far less dependent on the Kremlin for oil than other countries.
​
However, the price of oil is determined by international factors, and because other countries are more heavily dependent on Russian oil than the U.S. is, any cutbacks in the use of Russian oil elsewhere can reduce global supplies, pushing prices higher for Americans.

Want to blame someone for really f*cking the global economy after it was just starting to get out from under the devastating impact of Covid, blame the guy Trump loves his man crush Putin. Don’t forget the corporation’s that the right has always wanted to reward with tax breaks, they all are seeing epic profits throughout this.

As others have posted voters, or at least those without the ability to really think through cause and affect, take the easy way out and blame the sitting president (red or blue). Thinking Biden caused high gas prices, supply shortages and the resulting inflation is taking the easy way out.

The United States has done a good job of distancing ourselves from Russia’s oil industry, even though Russia is the second-largest oil producer in the world. Russia accounts for just 7 percent of total US Oil Imports, meaning we are far less dependent on the Kremlin for oil than other countries.
​
However, the price of oil is determined by international factors, and because other countries are more heavily dependent on Russian oil than the U.S. is, any cutbacks in the use of Russian oil elsewhere can reduce global supplies, pushing prices higher for Americans.

Want to blame someone for really f*cking the global economy after it was just starting to get out from under the devastating impact of Covid, blame the guy Trump loves his man crush Putin. Don’t forget the corporation’s that the right has always wanted to reward with tax breaks, they all are seeing epic profits throughout this.

"As others have posted voters, or at least those without the ability to really think through cause and affect, take the easy way out"

I 100% agree. And we can out Pete solidly in that category.

"Thinking Biden caused high gas prices, supply shortages and the resulting inflation is taking the easy way out."

I'd say he contributed to some of those things, he's not the sole cause, but he did things that made it worse. Pumping trillions and trillions into the economy, especially when supplies are low, is going to cause inflation. Trump also spent like a lunatic and caused some of it.

"the price of oil is determined by international factors"

I'm no expert on that by ANY means, but it's also based on speculation of future supply. Having a US president that's perceived as likely to cut US production, is likely to lead to higher prices.

"blame the guy Trump loves his man crush Putin."

That argument is destroyed by considering the very simple fact that inflation started shooting up before Russia invaded. Putin is certainly making it worse, but he's not the root cause of large-scale inflation.

"Don’t forget the corporation’s that the right has always wanted to reward with tax breaks, they all are seeing epic profits throughout this":

(1) corporations making profits, is a lot better for regular Americans, than the alternative.

(2) those record profits were meaningfully helped by Trump and Biden handing out covid relief checks, in MANY cases to people who weren't impacted by covid at all. If you give every single regular family close to $10,000 in free money over the course of a couple of covid relief bills, why would you be surprised that corporations are making big profits? People are going to spend that money.

So as I look at your post, it appears you seem to be saying that zero blame lies with the democrats, and all the blame lies with entities on the right.

It's not that simple.

Almost every barometer that you'd use to judge how the US is doing, is meaningfully worse than it was when Biden took over. Not nearly all of that is his fault, but he's not blameless either. Not by a long shot.

Making people afraid of MAGA isn't going to help the left in the midterms, that's just going to energize the right. The people who think that's great, are already voting for democrats.

Focusing on Roe might well help the left in the midterms. That was a political gift to the left.

Russia is emboldened???????
The Trump is strong in you
As the US sends more weapons to Ukraine, remember that Trump illegally withheld Javelin missiles from Ukraine and every Republican in Congress except Mitt Romney gave him a pass for it.

The aid we are spending on Ukraine is a pittance compared with what we would have to spend if Russia succeeded in Ukraine and further threatened the freedom of the West and the peace of the world.


Trump’s presidency saw the debt surpass 100% of the economy, even though he came into office with a healthy economy, declining interest rates, and relative peace after 15 years of global military conflict.

Trump left the White House with the largest peacetime budget deficit in American history and a national debt exceeding 100% of the economy for the first time since World War II.

It wasn't just Covid

Russia is emboldened???????
The Trump is strong in you
As the US sends more weapons to Ukraine, remember that Trump illegally withheld Javelin missiles from Ukraine and every Republican in Congress except Mitt Romney gave him a pass for it.

The aid we are spending on Ukraine is a pittance compared with what we would have to spend if Russia succeeded in Ukraine and further threatened the freedom of the West and the peace of the world.


Trump’s presidency saw the debt surpass 100% of the economy, even though he came into office with a healthy economy, declining interest rates, and relative peace after 15 years of global military conflict.

Trump left the White House with the largest peacetime budget deficit in American history and a national debt exceeding 100% of the economy for the first time since World War II.

It wasn't just Covid

Russia felt emboldened enough to invade. Interesting that they waited until Pudding Brain was in office, top feel sufficiently emboldened to do do. I wonder why they didn't do it when Putins lap dog was POTUS? Presumably Trump wouldn't have been as hard on Russia, so why didnt they do it then?

Russia felt emboldened enough to invade. Interesting that they waited until Pudding Brain was in office, top feel sufficiently emboldened to do do. I wonder why they didn't do it when Putins lap dog was POTUS? Presumably Trump wouldn't have been as hard on Russia, so why didnt they do it then?

Just think what would have happened if on his re-election Putin’s lap dog had withdrawn from NATO.

Wonder what they discussed in Helsinki?
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Russia felt emboldened enough to invade. Interesting that they waited until Pudding Brain was in office, top feel sufficiently emboldened to do do. I wonder why they didn't do it when Putins lap dog was POTUS? Presumably Trump wouldn't have been as hard on Russia, so why didnt they do it then?
This isn’t rocket science Jim. Insiders were saying Trump wanted to pull out of NATO in his second term. Why stir the pot when you’re getting what you want?

This isn’t rocket science Jim. Insiders were saying Trump wanted to pull out of NATO in his second term. Why stir the pot when you’re getting what you want?

oh, well if the insiders were saying it…
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oh, well if the insiders were saying it…
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Trump repeated many times that NATO was important. And the only reason that he would consider pulling out was if NATO members didn't pull their specified financial weight. His criticism of NATO in that respect actually bore fruit, so would have negated any desire he may have had to pull out.

But, yeah, "insiders" (all insiders?--seems there were many "insiders" that weren't saying that) have regularly been so good at telling us the truth--not. And wily Putin would have known that if Trump was his puppet, the time to invade was while Trump was still President. There was no guarantee that he would be re-elected. With the economy down, Covid up, Trump's approval ratings not good and going down, it would appear that the time to invade, if Trump was Putin's puppet, was while he still had the puppet in his pocket.

But all this "puppet" nonsense is baseless, unproven conjecture--so must be backed up with more conjecture parading as "facts" such as "what insiders were saying." That's how the game is played. And then if you don't believe the conjectures, you're sowing distrust in media and government. Can't have that. Maintain the trust! Censor the disbelievers of official conjecture. Yeah, that'll do it.

Trump repeated many times that NATO was important. And the only reason that he would consider pulling out was if NATO members didn't pull their specified financial weight. His criticism of NATO in that respect actually bore fruit, so would have negated any desire he may have had to pull out.

But, yeah, "insiders" (all insiders?--seems there were many "insiders" that weren't saying that) have regularly been so good at telling us the truth--not. And wily Putin would have known that if Trump was his puppet, the time to invade was while Trump was still President. There was no guarantee that he would be re-elected. With the economy down, Covid up, Trump's approval ratings not good and going down, it would appear that the time to invade, if Trump was Putin's puppet, was while he still had the puppet in his pocket.

But all this "puppet" nonsense is baseless, unproven conjecture--so must be backed up with more conjecture parading as "facts" such as "what insiders were saying." That's how the game is played. And then if you don't believe the conjectures, you're sowing distrust in media and government. Can't have that. Maintain the trust! Censor the disbelievers of official conjecture. Yeah, that'll do it.

like saying he refused to disavow white supremacists, when he’s on tape disavowing white supremacists 10 times.

everything he does is wrong. doesn’t matter what it is.
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Manafort, Davis, Gates, Deripaska, etc
No Russian projects
Lavrov and Kislyak in the Oval Office alone with Trump
Tearing up the notes after meeting with Putin in Helsinki
Every time you learn of another Russian war crime, remember Trump called Putin a genius and the invasion smart & Tucker Carlson said: "Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? I'm serious. Why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which by the way I am."
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Manafort, Davis, Gates, Deripaska, etc
No Russian projects
Lavrov and Kislyak in the Oval Office alone with Trump
Tearing up the notes after meeting with Putin in Helsinki
Every time you learn of another Russian war crime, remember Trump called Putin a genius and the invasion smart & Tucker Carlson said: "Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? I'm serious. Why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which by the way I am."
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Bunch of factoids and insinuations. That's what you thrive on. The essence of propaganda.

Bunch of factoids and insinuations. That's what you thrive on. The essence of propaganda.

Just how is this insinuating something other than what he said

Tucker Carlson said: "Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? I'm serious. Why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which by the way I am."
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More Fox host claim Biden is giving illegals baby formula while Americans suffer

Just another example of the lies and willingness to mislead their viewers with out actual factual information

When this is the Truth

Republicans Wrongly Tie Biden Immigration Policies to Baby Formula Shortage

A lawsuit settlement requires the federal government to provide water and food, including formula, to detained migrant children. The Trump administration also adhered to that requirement.

And it is unlikely that the amount of formula in stock at detention facilities would meaningfully ease the shortage.

But hey nothing sells like outrage in the GOP universe
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More Fox host claim Biden is giving illegals baby formula while Americans suffer

Just another example of the lies and willingness to mislead their viewers with out actual factual information

When this is the Truth

Republicans Wrongly Tie Biden Immigration Policies to Baby Formula Shortage

A lawsuit settlement requires the federal government to provide water and food, including formula, to detained migrant children. The Trump administration also adhered to that requirement.

And it is unlikely that the amount of formula in stock at detention facilities would meaningfully ease the shortage.

But hey nothing sells like outrage in the GOP universe
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and women are all going to die if Roe gets overturned. that’s the kind of accuracy we should
demand.
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and women are all going to die if Roe gets overturned. that’s the kind of accuracy we should
demand.
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Love to see the quote of who said that. Standing by
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Bunch of factoids and insinuations. That's what you thrive on. The essence of propaganda.

Meanwhile on Russian state TV: a parade of all-time favorites. Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Tulsi Gabbard, Rand Paul, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz.
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Just how is this insinuating something other than what he said

Tucker Carlson said: "Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? I'm serious. Why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which by the way I am."
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Because, like the other factoids you mentioned along with this one, it is a triviality meant to imply something seriously bad (about Carlson with this one). Does it make him a racist or white supremacist to root for Russia? Is it some kind of dog whistle to inspire a bat$hit crazy to shoot a bunch of people? What's the context? Is it sarcasm or irony or seditious?

If you actually watch his program or videos of it, you can find thousands or millions of things he has said, many of which you may even agree with, but certainly statements that are against racism, anti-violence, against white supremacy, anti-fascist, anti-NAZI, anti-communist, anti-Putin, pro-peace, pro-democracy, pro-Constitution, pro-American, pro-Western liberal values, lots of pro-good stuff and anti-bad stuff. I don't know what to make of this one that you chose out of the many thousand possible ones, other than you're trying to make him look like a bad guy.

I have found the full context of several out of context quotes you've proffered before as supposedly evidence for something bad about someone (usually Trump) which turned out to be the opposite to what you tried to insinuate with the quote. So I'm not impressed by a selected quote from you. Especially when, llke this one, it provokes a "so what?"--or I don't really care without knowing more about it. On its face, knowing about all the other things he has said and stands for, it's a nothing burger.

Meanwhile on Russian state TV: a parade of all-time favorites. Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Tulsi Gabbard, Rand Paul, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz.
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Whoopie! Care to tell us when they appear on other broadcasts--non Russian ones--they do, you know (wonder what that implies about them). Or what they said on "Russian state TV"--will it provoke bat$hit crazies to shoot people? Is it anti-American? Seditious? Racist? No doubt you can select an out of context quote that you think makes them look bad--you're good at that kind of propaganda.

Oh . . . that's right . . . They appeared on RTV, so . . . ? Insinuation?

Because, like the other factoids you mentioned along with this one, it is a triviality meant to imply something seriously bad (about Carlson with this one). Does it make him a racist or white supremacist to root for Russia? Is it some kind of dog whistle to inspire a bat$hit crazy to shoot a bunch of people? What's the context? Is it sarcasm or irony or seditious?

If you actually watch his program or videos of it, you can find thousands or millions of things he has said, many of which you may even agree with, but certainly statements that are against racism, anti-violence, against white supremacy, anti-fascist, anti-NAZI, anti-communist, anti-Putin, pro-peace, pro-democracy, pro-Constitution, pro-American, pro-Western liberal values, lots of pro-good stuff and anti-bad stuff. I don't know what to make of this one that you chose out of the many thousand possible ones, other than you're trying to make him look like a bad guy.

I have found the full context of several out of context quotes you've proffered before as supposedly evidence for something bad about someone (usually Trump) which turned out to be the opposite to what you tried to insinuate with the quote. So I'm not impressed by a selected quote from you. Especially when, llke this one, it provokes a "so what?"--or I don't really care without knowing more about it. On its face, knowing about all the other things he has said and stands for, it's a nothing burger.

My prediction: Tucker Carlson and Republicans will double down on the white supremacist replacement theory this week.

Next you’ll claim that ackshully the great MAGA King is still President 🤡
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My prediction: Tucker Carlson and Republicans will double down on the white supremacist replacement theory this week.

There you go. Don't let an opportunity go to waste.
A white supremacist shoots black folks because of the theory gives you the opportunity to sneak in the notion that the theory is a white supremacist creation, ergo "the white supremacist replacement theory."
Except it wasn't created out of thin white racist air, it was an actual fact that was obvious even to Democrats who saw it as an opportunity to win elections for the foreseeable future, and said so.

Next you’ll claim that ackshully the great MAGA King is still President ��
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OK. Put your money where your mouth is. Put a hundred bucks on it. I'll put a hundred on that I won't say that.

OK. Put your money where your mouth is. Put a hundred bucks on it. I'll put a hundred on that I won't say that.

Poor boy, it’s pretty easy to not say something.

When you can’t win the war of ideas you resort to tribalism.

That’s what Great Replacement Theory is.
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Poor boy, it’s pretty easy to not say something.

It's easy to make statements that you don't have to back up.

When you can’t win the war of ideas you resort to tribalism.

Your tribe is good at that. On top of which you add on lying, labeling, posturing, insinuating, making innuendos, and stirring up destructive emotions with hateful rhetoric.

That’s what Great Replacement Theory is.
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The Great Replacement Theory is actually facts based on observation which even Democrats have admitted.

Does this help you two in your battle royal?

Claiming “How DARE you accuse Tucker of promoting the white replacement theory that has motivated multiple mass killers?”…while being seemingly unaware of all the clips of him promoting the white replacement theory that has motivated multiple mass killers.
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Claiming “How DARE you accuse Tucker of promoting the white replacement theory that has motivated multiple mass killers?”…while being seemingly unaware of all the clips of him promoting the white replacement theory that has motivated multiple mass killers.
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There you go again acting like a judge and jury about Carlson's motives and awareness. The so-called "replacement theory" in-so-far as Carlson expresses it, IS NOT ABOUT RACE. IT IS NOT ABOUT REPLACING WHITES WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR. IT IS ABOUT REPLACING PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL. It is not called, certainly not by Carlson, as you call it--"the white replacement theory." You, and the Dems, intentionally are making it about race in order to do their go to BS and accuse Carlson and Repubs of RACISM. It's called "the replacement theory" or "the great replacement theory," not "the white replacement theory." Just slip in the word white and make it racism. Propaganda.

Here is Carlson's own words, contrary to the words you want to put in his mouth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQOEvrBs3C8&t=17s

There you go again acting like a judge and jury about Carlson's motives and awareness. The so-called "replacement theory" in-so-far as Carlson expresses it, IS NOT ABOUT RACE. IT IS NOT ABOUT REPLACING WHITES WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR. IT IS ABOUT REPLACING PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS FOR PEOPLE WHO WILL. It is not called, certainly not by Carlson, as you call it--"the white replacement theory." You, and the Dems, intentionally are making it about race in order to do their go to BS and accuse Carlson and Repubs of RACISM. It's called "the replacement theory" or "the great replacement theory," not "the white replacement theory." Just slip in the word white and make it racism. Propaganda.

Here is Carlson's own words, contrary to the words you want to put in his mouth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQOEvrBs3C8&t=17s

the only one making race an issue was Biden, who said it’s a good thing that whites will be a minority soon.

But Tuckernis a racist for saying we should stop pigeonholing people
by skin color.
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You guys are too funny, just who do you think Carlson is thinking is going to replace you and just exactly who do you think the you is? It's not black voters he is warning about getting their vote replaced and it's not white immigrants he is warning YOU about. Carry on with your circle jerk, it's amusing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/17/viktor-orban-american-right-illiberal-orbanization/


Keep thinking this isn’t happening on the right


But Orban’s influence and vision are not just restricted to Europe. The Hungarian prime minister and his ruling Fidesz party has become a prominent source of inspiration for American conservatives. Stephen K. Bannon, former adviser to President Donald Trump, described Orban’s nationalist agenda and rule as that of a “Trump before Trump.” A steady stream of conservative U.S. intellectuals have made their way to Budapest on sabbaticals and fellowships. Later this week, a major event of the Conservative Political Action Conference — the premier convening organization of the American political right — is slated to take place in Budapest.

Orban and a number of his lieutenants will address the meeting, along with a cast of Republican lawmakers, European far-right leaders and key figures from the U.S. right-wing media ecosystem. That includes a virtual appearance from Tucker Carlson,

Vance, also known for cheering Orban’s brand of nationalism, suggested in an interview with Vanity Fair that a Trump reelection in 2024 should prompt the start of a forced takeover of U.S. institutions, including universities. “I tend to think that we should seize the institutions of the left,” he said. “And turn them against the left. We need like a de-Baathification program, a de-woke-ification program.”
He added: “I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.”

Yep And Democrats and liberals are a threat to American values lol
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You can fire a John Derbyshire and excommunicate a Steve King. But once someone reaches the stature of Tucker Carlson or Elise Stefanik, they must be vigorously defended because to do otherwise would acknowledge that the whole right-wing infrastructure is rotted to the core.
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You guys are too funny, just who do you think Carlson is thinking is going to replace you and just exactly who do you think the you is? It's not black voters he is warning about getting their vote replaced and it's not white immigrants he is warning YOU about. Carry on with your circle jerk, it's amusing.

Getting votes replaced, regardless of color, is the key. Democrats understand this. They have said it. They understand that those coming from Central America will predominantly vote Democrat. This is why they predict red states will shift to blue because of the change in demographics that will occur with mass immigration from those countries. This is no secret. They say it out loud, gleefully, and in our faces. Republicans are not against people of color from Cuba immigrating here because they think those people will predominantly vote Republican.

It's about voting patterns not skin color. So, let immigrants come here LEGALLY, in more manageable numbers, and with skills that we need (as has all been done in the past), rather than illegally in massive numbers and with the expectation that they can remain here and become citizens, while those from other countries who apply legally can wait for years, if they're accepted at all.

Do it in that organized, handleable, legal way and let the chips fall where they may in voting patterns as the immigrants gradually get assimilated into American society and have a clearer picture of American politics and the actual consequences of their votes.

You can fire a John Derbyshire and excommunicate a Steve King. But once someone reaches the stature of Tucker Carlson or Elise Stefanik, they must be vigorously defended because to do otherwise would acknowledge that the whole right-wing infrastructure is rotted to the core.
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Carlson exposes the rotten core of left-wing infrastructure, so he must be canceled.

He added: “I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single mid-level bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.”

I disagree. That doesn't go far enough. The administrative state needs to be fired.

Yep And Democrats and liberals are a threat to American values lol
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The administrative state is a threat to American values. It pretty much crushes them. Progressives love the administrative state. They gave birth to it. Nourished it. And helped it grow into the massive monster that it is today. Too bad for America that they didn't abort it before they delivered it. But then they would not have the suffocating grip on this country that they tell us is for our welfare and freedom.

Well I suppose we could go back to being an agrarian society as we were in the 18th century.
That would greatly reduce immigration pressure, why leave Central America for a subsistence life in a colder climate.
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Well I suppose we could go back to being an agrarian society as we were in the 18th century.
That would greatly reduce immigration pressure, why leave Central America for a subsistence life in a colder climate.
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And it would be good for the climate, and save the earth. Unfortunately, your suppositions tend to be ridiculous and way off the mark.

And it would be good for the climate, and save the earth. Unfortunately, your suppositions tend to be ridiculous and way off the mark.

And you have never provided the example of a successful libertarian society.
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And you have never provided the example of a successful libertarian society.
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Didn't know that I was supposed to do so. I don't even know what you mean by "successful"?

More about the rights latest love affair 2000 mules

Trump's official spokesperson, Liz Harrington, said True The Vote "solved a murder of a young little girl in Atlanta. I mean, they are heroes." Fans of the film have echoed that message on social media.

That claim is false. Shocking

Authorities in Georgia arrested and secured indictments against two suspects in the murder of Secoriea Turner in August 2021.

In response to inquiries, True The Vote acknowledged it had contacted law enforcement more than two months later, meaning it played no role in those arrests or indictments.

And of course the gullible Cult is running around with this lie as validation of what’s in the movie. Shocking
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More about the rights latest love affair 2000 mules

Trump's official spokesperson, Liz Harrington, said True The Vote "solved a murder of a young little girl in Atlanta. I mean, they are heroes." Fans of the film have echoed that message on social media.

That claim is false. Shocking

Authorities in Georgia arrested and secured indictments against two suspects in the murder of Secoriea Turner in August 2021.

In response to inquiries, True The Vote acknowledged it had contacted law enforcement more than two months later, meaning it played no role in those arrests or indictments.

And of course the gullible Cult is running around with this lie as validation of what’s in the movie. Shocking
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i even heard that a registered republican somewhere got a parking ticket. That party must be stopped.

You’re becoming schizophrenic.
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i even heard that a registered republican somewhere got a parking ticket. That party must be stopped.

You’re becoming schizophrenic.
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Was that before or after he curb-stomped a puppy and burned down an orphanage while firing his AK into the air and shouting racial epithets

They all do that you know

Was that before or after he curb-stomped a puppy and burned down an orphanage while firing his AK into the air and shouting racial epithets

They all do that you know

That's a requirement to join the GOP now.

And no one who's a democrat, has ever done anything bad worth mentioning. Never, not once.

i even heard that a registered republican somewhere got a parking ticket. That party must be stopped.

You’re becoming schizophrenic.
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yep! key your head in the sand the Gop lies and lie and lies and even when proven wrong they lie about that ... and their gullible followers think it isn't happening .. or they are getting picked on :btu:

That's a requirement to join the GOP now.

And no one who's a democrat, has ever done anything bad worth mentioning. Never, not once.


Not as a group Jim not as an entire political Party .. but keep thinking I am talking about individuals

Not as a group Jim not as an entire political Party .. but keep thinking I am talking about individuals

slavery, segregation, slaughtering 63 million babies ( many past the point of viability, making it
murder according to you), higher taxes than necessary, open borders, reckless spending, causing a cultural and economic Holocaust in American cities, causing massive fatherlessness, soft on crime, soft on drugs, etc.

all made up.




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slavery, segregation, slaughtering 63 million babies ( many past the point of viability, making it
murder according to you), higher taxes than necessary, open borders, reckless spending, causing a cultural and economic Holocaust in American cities, causing massive fatherlessness, soft on crime, soft on drugs, etc.

all made up.




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So Jim there have been no Republicans as presidents and when we did . the things on your list stopped?

Slavery reckless spending open borders more conservatives lie for the gullible. And you fell for all of them



Try a history book Jim and not one from Florida

The problem is that the Republicans and the politics of 1860 bear almost zero resemblance to the Republicans of today.

Back then, Republicans were, generally, a party of Northerners and Democrats were, generally, the party of the South.
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So Jim there have been no Republicans as presidents and when we did . the things on your list stopped?

Slavery reckless spending open borders more conservatives lie for the gullible. And you fell for all of them



Try a history book Jim and not one from Florida

The problem is that the Republicans and the politics of 1860 bear almost zero resemblance to the Republicans of today.

Back then, Republicans were, generally, a party of Northerners and Democrats were, generally, the party of the South.
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you said democrats have never done anything wrong as a party.

i posted a list of pretty bad things democrats did and and advocated for .

your response is that today’s GOP is different from what it was in 1860.

as of right now, the gop has half the senate, a handful
less than half of the house, and a majority of state governorships
and legislatures.

And the gop is poised to make gains in november, more so now that the stock market is tanking and we
may be well into a recession come
november.

there’s a reason why the GOP is in good shape and looking to improve.

Were not a far left country.

And the democrats are i recignixxea ow to when clinton was elected in 1992. He cut taxes, cut spending by more, and generated a surplus. His economic poorly which worked, was right out of the tea party playbook.
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The GOP is so pro life that 192 of them voted against baby formula yesterday.
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The GOP is so pro life that 192 of them voted against baby formula yesterday.
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in your deranged, psychotic obsession with republicans, you forgot to mention that another bill ( which also made it easier for poor families to get baby formula) passed almost unanimously.

So obviously the gop isn’t “against baby formula”. they liked one bill
more than another bill.

God forbid you show a speck of honesty.

how’s the stock market doing?

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-house-republicans-voted-against-fda-baby-formula-bill-1708036?amp=1
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in your deranged, psychotic obsession with republicans, you forgot to mention that another bill ( which also made it easier for poor families to get baby formula) passed almost unanimously.

So obviously the gop isn’t “against baby formula”. they liked one bill
more than another bill.

God forbid you show a speck of honesty.


Lying Pete's obsession has no tolerance for "conservative" honesty. Not even specks of it.

The honesty of the GOP

A guy who lives in New Jersey is in a virtual tie with a guy who lives in Connecticut following the GOP primary election for a U.S. Senate seat in Pennsylvania
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in your deranged, psychotic obsession with republicans, you forgot to mention that another bill ( which also made it easier for poor families to get baby formula) passed almost unanimously.

So obviously the gop isn’t “against baby formula”. they liked one bill
more than another bill.

God forbid you show a speck of honesty.

how’s the stock market doing?

https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-house-republicans-voted-against-fda-baby-formula-bill-1708036?amp=1
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You’re lying. The $28 million doesn’t go towards “demand,” it is emergency funding for FDA inspection staff, resources for market data collection, and helping the agency stop fraudulent baby formula from entering the US marketplace.

192 Republicans voted against it.
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The honesty of the GOP

A guy who lives in New Jersey is in a virtual tie with a guy who lives in Connecticut following the GOP primary election for a U.S. Senate seat in Pennsylvania
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you said the gop is against baby formula. I proved you lied.
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192 Republicans voted against it.
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and they all cited for the other bill i posted.

The GOP doesn’t want poor infants to starve to death, find another deranged soapbox to stand on.

You’re getting terrified at what’s coming.

And now the stock market, like much of what liberals touch, is imploding.
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Mastriano is the fringe of the fringe. He is an ardent 2020 election denier — “insurrectionist,” my Post colleague Greg Sargent argues, is not too strong a word — who attended Trump’s rally that preceded the Jan. 6 riot, organized buses to take Pennsylvanians to it and wanted the state legislature to overturn the popular vote for electors committed to Joe Biden. He spoke at a QAnon event last month, at which conspiracy theorists presented him with a ceremonial weapon they called the “sword of David.”

Tuesday primaries show that Trumpism has metastasized


What a true headline

But but baby formula. And now Jim think political parties control the stock market.. more conservatives fantasy
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Mastriano is the fringe of the fringe. He is an ardent 2020 election denier — “insurrectionist,” my Post colleague Greg Sargent argues, is not too strong a word — who attended Trump’s rally that preceded the Jan. 6 riot, organized buses to take Pennsylvanians to it and wanted the state legislature to overturn the popular vote for electors committed to Joe Biden. He spoke at a QAnon event last month, at which conspiracy theorists presented him with a ceremonial weapon they called the “sword of David.”

Tuesday primaries show that Trumpism has metastasized


What a true headline

But but baby formula. And now Jim think political parties control the stock market.. more conservatives fantasy
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Pete brought up baby formula, not me, Einstein.

if political parties controlled the stock market, we’d all be eating cat food.

But the party in control, surely has an impact on the stock market. The democrats can and have, influenced how much money is out there, taxes, regulations, trade deals, employment levels, etc

You’re denying that political parties effect the stock market. I bet that’s not what you were saying in 2008 when the market crashed at the end of Bush’s term.

I’ve said 1,000 times that it’s not all Bidens fault. But it’s all his problem. He’s got a lot of problems right now. Too many.


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you said the gop is against baby formula. I proved you lied.
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You’re lying. The $28 million doesn’t go towards “demand,” it is emergency funding for FDA inspection staff, resources for market data collection, and helping the agency stop fraudulent baby formula from entering the US marketplace.

192 Republicans voted against it.
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During yesterday's hearing on abortion rights, the GOP's main witness claimed that D.C.'s electrical company powers the lights with incinerated fetuses.

Republicans aren't even trying to make their lies sound plausible anymore.
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During yesterday's hearing on abortion rights, the GOP's main witness claimed that D.C.'s electrical company powers the lights with incinerated fetuses.

Republicans aren't even trying to make their lies sound plausible anymore.
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Master liar Pete schools Republicans on the necessity of trying to make lies sound plausible.

So when will you ultra MAGAs turn on Tucker for being friends with Hunter Biden and asking him to help get his kid into Georgetown?
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Back to the topic 2000 Mules
Question.
Did any of you liberals who call us conspiracy theorists and other things…..
ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY WATCH IT ???

Back to the topic 2000 Mules
Question.
Did any of you liberals who call us conspiracy theorists and other things…..
ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY WATCH IT ???

Maybe because unlike the Trumpets, most believe the election was fair and won by Biden. Maybe it’s because every court that looked at these crazy accusations either wouldn’t hear the case or ruled against it. Grab your foil hat and an ice tea, it’s going to be hot today, steaming over a couple guys on an obscure fishing site not clicking your BS link will just make you hotter.

Maybe because unlike the Trumpets, most believe the election was fair and won by Biden. Maybe it’s because every court that looked at these crazy accusations either wouldn’t hear the case or ruled against it. Grab your foil hat and an ice tea, it’s going to be hot today, steaming over a couple guys on an obscure fishing site not clicking your BS link will just make you hotter.



Typical #^&#^&#^&#^&ing reply
dance around the question, make stupid insults…..
DID YOU WATCH IT OR NOT ????
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Ginni Thomas had pressed Arizona lawmakers after the 2020 election to disregard Biden’s popular-vote victory and choose “a clean slate of Electors,”
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Typical #^&#^&#^&#^&ing reply
dance around the question, make stupid insults…..
DID YOU WATCH IT OR NOT ????
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If there really had been fraud, the evidence would’ve been displayed in Court and not as a movie you have to pay for. These grifters really know their marks. 2,000 Mules is more like thousands of fools.
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If there really had been fraud, the evidence would’ve been displayed in Court and not as a movie you have to pay for. These grifters really know their marks. 2,000 Mules is more like thousands of fools.
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DID YOU WATCH IT OR NOT
YES OR NO ????????????
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Of course not
A movie on the theory of a convicted felon that a con man didn’t really lose.
Supported by research that wasn’t done.
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If there really had been fraud, the evidence would’ve been displayed in Court

Not if the Court refuses to hear it.

Not if the Court refuses to hear it.

This is false: state and federal judges dismissed more than 50 lawsuits presented by then President Donald Trump and his allies challenging the election or its outcome.
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This is false: state and federal judges dismissed more than 50 lawsuits presented by then President Donald Trump and his allies challenging the election or its outcome.
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In several cases the Court dismissed the charges due to lack of standing, not lack of evidence. Others were dismissed by judicial opinion, not by trial in which evidence would be heard by a jury.

It would be interesting if whatever evidence is presented by the movie would actually be analyzed in depth by pro and con debate by experts, or a court trial.

In several cases the Court dismissed the charges due to lack of standing, not lack of evidence. Others were dismissed by judicial opinion, not by trial in which evidence would be heard by a jury.

It would be interesting if whatever evidence is presented by the movie would actually be analyzed in depth by pro and con debate by experts, or a court trial.

The lawyers claiming fraud exhibited consistent incompetence and failed to produce evidence.
Con men who don’t have evidence and have a history of not paying end up with press conferences at Four Seasons Landscaping and lose in court.
It would be interesting to see what the 2016 results would have been without Comeys announcement but any point would be moot now
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Not if the Court refuses to hear it.




If I were on the Supreme Court & my home address was leaked & the left unleashed BLM thugs & Antifa to threaten me & my family I probably wouldn’t hear it either.
Straight out of the Chicago Al Capone playbook.
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Of course not
A movie on the theory of a convicted felon that a con man didn’t really lose.
Supported by research that wasn’t done.
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There you go.
A #^&#^&#^&#^&ing fraud like the rest here in this forum.
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The lawyers claiming fraud exhibited consistent incompetence and failed to produce evidence.

Dismissing for lack of standing is not so for lack of evidence.

Con men who don’t have evidence and have a history of not paying end up with press conferences at Four Seasons Landscaping and lose in court.

Insinuation by name calling is a tactic, not an argument.

It would be interesting to see what the 2016 results would have been without Comeys announcement but any point would be moot now
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It would be interesting to see what the 2020 results would have been if the Hunter Biden laptop info had not been suppressed and characterized as Russian disinformation.

It would be interesting to see what the 2020 results would have been if the Hunter Biden laptop info had not been suppressed and characterized as Russian disinformation.

It was suppressed every one knew about it!

How much money did Ivanka and Jared make while in the White House…. Also get back to me when Hunter has a job in the White House all with out congressional approval


Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance

But but hunter..
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It was suppressed every one knew about it!
]

Yes, it was suppressed, that's why "every one" didn't know about it. And what was "known" about it by those who were even aware of its existence, is that it was characterized (falsely) as Russian disinformation by the legacy media, and Twitter, and Face Book, and YouTube (the very outlets that suppressed the details and discussion of it and the sources that the majority of political seekers count on for information)--which, for most other than MAGA folks, made it not worth thinking about. Even you lefties on this forum were persuaded by fake news that it was indeed Russian disinformation and repeatedly posted that it was and therefor dismissed it as not worth discussing.

Polls estimated anywhere from 4.6% to 20% of those who voted for Biden would not have voted for him if they had been aware of the Hunter Biden laptop messages--including enough of a switch in votes that Trump would have won. A poll estimated that only 45.1 percent of Biden voters knew much, if anything, about the Hunter Biden email scandal.

But her emails worked so let’s try but his emails
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Russia has just banned 963 citizens of the US, including President Biden, VP Harris, and John McCain (wtf?).

But they didn't ban Trump. I wonder why
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Russia has just banned 963 citizens of the US, including President Biden, VP Harris, and John McCain (wtf?).

But they didn't ban Trump. I wonder why
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But Russia,,,,,,,





https://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-did-it-robby-mook-michael-sussmann-donald-trump-russia-collusion-alfa-bank-11653084709
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Trump, Tucker Carlson & Mark Meadows shared the CPAC stage w/ pro-Putin Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orban who called for a “worldwide conservative takeover” by “our troops”

The traitorous, anti-American GOP is literally plotting w/ a foreign power to overturn our democracy

Again
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But they didn't ban Trump. I wonder why
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……or Elizabeth Warren

We need to impeach her

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……or Elizabeth Warren

We need to impeach her

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twice, for good measure.
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twice, for good measure.
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Was she selling out her country?

The Justice Department sued the former casino mogul Stephen Wynn on Tuesday, saying he had made repeated requests on behalf of the Chinese government to Donald J. Trump when he was president and seeking to force Mr. Wynn to register as a foreign agent.

In 2017, Mr. Wynn pushed Mr. Trump to deport a Chinese businessman who had sought asylum in the United States, according to the lawsuit. At the time, Mr. Wynn was the finance chairman of the Republican National Committee, a role he had been handpicked for by Mr. Trump.
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Yes, it was suppressed, that's why "every one" didn't know about it. And what was "known" about it by those who were even aware of its existence, is that it was characterized (falsely) as Russian disinformation by the legacy media, and Twitter, and Face Book, and YouTube (the very outlets that suppressed the details and discussion of it and the sources that the majority of political seekers count on for information)--which, for most other than MAGA folks, made it not worth thinking about. Even you lefties on this forum were persuaded by fake news that it was indeed Russian disinformation and repeatedly posted that it was and therefor dismissed it as not worth discussing.

Polls estimated anywhere from 4.6% to 20% of those who voted for Biden would not have voted for him if they had been aware of the Hunter Biden laptop messages--including enough of a switch in votes that Trump would have won. A poll estimated that only 45.1 percent of Biden voters knew much, if anything, about the Hunter Biden email scandal.

if they had been aware of the Hunter Biden laptop messages--

Please post them I’d love to see what your taking about
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if they had been aware of the Hunter Biden laptop messages--

Please post them I’d love to see what your taking about
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You always tell Jim to do research. Do it yourself.

Hunter Biden’s laptop is Republican propaganda designed to distract from Steve Mnuchin’s 18 trips to the Persian Gulf, Jared Kushner’s $2 Billion investment from Saudi Arabia, Donald Trump’s secret Chinese bank account, and Ivanka Trump’s trademarks on Chinese coffins & bodybags.
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You always tell Jim to do research. Do it yourself.

I did they don’t exist at least not the ones you suggested should. Have changed the election. It’s odd you think the release of supposedly Hunters info from a stolen illegally copied hard drive is Hard evidence of misconduct and he’s not a government official

But all the actual text messages not stolen. and emails from those who tried to overturn the election and are elected officials are. Irrelevant ..

Funny how that works
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I did they don’t exist at least not the ones you suggested should. Have changed the election. It’s odd you think the release of supposedly Hunters info from a stolen illegally copied hard drive is Hard evidence of misconduct and he’s not a government official

But all the actual text messages not stolen. and emails from those who tried to overturn the election and are elected officials are. Irrelevant ..

Funny how that works
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So Joe Biden setting his no. government official
up to make zillions, and then lying repeatedly about it ( he said he has never once spoken to his son about business, when he has golfed and traveled with Bunter and his partners). means nothing?

there’s a reason why the media and big tech buried the story wayne. they went to great lengths to bury it.

but Biden is. democrat, so it’s ok. just like it’s ok that congressional democrats tried to undermine the 2016 election with no valid reason other than they did t like the outcome

Awful when the GOP tried it, not worth mentioning when the democrats did it.

Because false equivalence.
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I did they don’t exist at least not the ones you suggested should. Have changed the election.
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The various statistics and poll do exist. Not hard to find.

$3.5 BILLION for Jared and Mnuchin. No wonder the right is taking so much about Hunter Biden.
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So Joe Biden setting his no. government official
up to make zillions, and then lying repeatedly about it ( he said he has never once spoken to his son about business, when he has golfed and traveled with Bunter and his partners). means nothing?

there’s a reason why the media and big tech buried the story wayne. they went to great lengths to bury it.

but Biden is. democrat, so it’s ok. just like it’s ok that congressional democrats tried to undermine the 2016 election with no valid reason other than they did t like the outcome

Awful when the GOP tried it, not worth mentioning when the democrats did it.

Because false equivalence.
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in your world a yugo and a Benently are the same because they both have 4 wheels ....

must be nice to live in your world :faga:

The various statistics and poll do exist. Not hard to find.

not looking for the Polls looking for the actual emails ... not the ones the right insist exist .. kinda like all that voter fraud

Detbuch is right in the heartland of voter fraud.
The Michigan state elections bureau determined mass fraud was perpetrated by 18 people who were paid to collect signatures for Republican candidate Craig. Almost 10,000 of his 21,000 were forged.
It’s always projection.
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not looking for the Polls looking for the actual emails ... not the ones the right insist exist .. kinda like all that voter fraud

Are you saying that what's in Hunter's laptop is disinformation?

not looking for the Polls looking for the actual emails ... not the ones the right insist exist .. kinda like all that voter fraud

why do you suppose the media and big tech buried the story? for no reason at all?
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Detbuch is right in the heartland of voter fraud.
The Michigan state elections bureau determined mass fraud was perpetrated by 18 people who were paid to collect signatures for Republican candidate Craig. Almost 10,000 of his 21,000 were forged.
It’s always projection.
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Voter fraud doesn't exist . . . wellllll . . . maybe if you can catch some Republicans, well then . . . yeah.

In the meantime, from your far left Salon's article "The candidates argued that they are the victims of the scheme, not the perpetrators. The bureau said it does not currently 'have reason to believe that any specific candidates or campaigns were aware of the activities of fraudulent-petition circulators.' "

Among the 18, one was Democrat (that's surely a mistake, Democrats don't do fraud), and nine were independents (No Way--independents?--Independents surely wouldn't do fraud--fraud, if it actually exists, is done by Republicans).

The final decision to disqualify has not been made yet. "The Board of Canvassers, which has two Democrats and two Republicans, will review the bureau's findings on Thursday and will determine whether to accept the bureau's recommendation to disqualify the candidates. It would take three of four members to reject the bureau's findings though candidates can still take the issue to court."

I don’t know about an article in Salon but “the eighteen” doesn’t refer to the number of candidates.
And yes among the candidates who had ineligible signatures was A Democrat

Joseph Alfonso: 959 valid signatures, 68 invalid signatures (needed 1,000, 4th District Congress, Holland, Democrat
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