Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has a new cause: using the power of the state to harass parents who see drag performances as family entertainment.


Last week, DeSantis (R) projected distress after video emerged of children attending a “Drag the Kids to Pride” show in Texas. “That is totally inappropriate,” he said. “That is not something children should be exposed to.” He added: “We have child protective statutes on the books,” and “we may have the ability to deal with something like that.”

Wow he had nothing to say about the children gunned down in a Texas but this…

Smells very fascist but Ron supporters call it Merica

Guess I need to have a talk with my parents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koyx2RmFe7M

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has a new cause: using the power of the state to harass parents who see drag performances as family entertainment.


Last week, DeSantis (R) projected distress after video emerged of children attending a “Drag the Kids to Pride” show in Texas. “That is totally inappropriate,” he said. “That is not something children should be exposed to.” He added: “We have child protective statutes on the books,” and “we may have the ability to deal with something like that.”

Wow he had nothing to say about the children gunned down in a Texas but this…

Smells very fascist but Ron supporters call it Merica

see, ten minutes ago, when I posted video of Biden saying something stupid, you criticized me for taking him literally. But here, you’re not giving Desantis the same benefit.

It’s ALMOST as if you have one set of standards for democrats, and a different set or republicans

If you want to say there’s no issue with taking 8 year olds to a drag show, you have fun with that.
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Wow he had nothing to say about the children gunned down in a Texas

Wrong.

https://floridaphoenix.com/2022/06/03/gov-desantis-finally-comments-at-length-on-buffalo-uvalde-parkland-and-columbine-mass-shootings/
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see, ten minutes ago, when I posted video of Biden saying something stupid, you criticized me for taking him literally. But here, you’re not giving Desantis the same benefit.

It’s ALMOST as if you have one set of standards for democrats, and a different set or republicans

If you want to say there’s no issue with taking 8 year olds to a drag show, you have fun with that.
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Jim the rescuers

How about Ron mind his fkn business

He’s a coward gay transgenders and now drag queens

But violence gun violence on children silence

And of course What Ron said was hyperbole

When he Actually has signed laws for Bigots votes
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"Desantis hasn't commented on the shooting"

"He did"

"Well why doesn't he mind his fkn business"

:rolleyes: :wall:
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Wrong.

https://floridaphoenix.com/2022/06/03/gov-desantis-finally-comments-at-length-on-buffalo-uvalde-parkland-and-columbine-mass-shootings/
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Did you even read your own article

He rolled them in to one planned campaign speech

Hitting all conservatives talking points

The Buffalo shooter, for example, said ‘you know I’m going places where I don’t have to worry about people, conceal carry, or anything like that,’”

A guy with a gun had shot him?
9mm vs 223 not a fair fight


DeSantis did not remark on the fact that the alleged shooter is a self-proclaimed white supremacist “who traveled more than 200 miles…to commit his attack

Of course he mentioned evil and Mental health and school safety


Then, DeSantis suddenly veered into a discussion on the United States’ withdrawal from the decades long war in Afghanistan last year.

But not a mention of gun safety or age limits background checks

Yet his state In 2018, after a 19-year-old carried out a mass school shooting in Parkland, Florida, the state enacted a law prohibiting minors under age 21 from purchasing firearms.1 The law also prohibits licensed dealers from making or facilitating the sale or transfer of a firearm to a person under 21 years of age.

Florida law penalizes any parent or guardian, or other adult responsible for the welfare of a minor, who knowingly and willfully permits the minor to possess a firearm in violation these provisions.7
Florida penalizes any person who knowingly or willfully sells or transfers a firearm to a minor without the permission of the minor’s parent or guardian


But he won’t sell that example to the voters he’s trying to win over

He is a coward just looking for votes targeting people he knows his core supporters hate and avoiding looking like he’s not. Owning the Libs
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"Desantis hasn't commented on the shooting"

"He did"

"Well why doesn't he mind his fkn business"

:rolleyes: :wall:
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i thought you were kidding when
you typed that. but he really said he should mind his business, after whining that he didn’t say anything.
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i thought you were kidding when
you typed that. but he really said he should mind his business, after whining that he didn’t say anything.
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You 2 are. Classic care to provide how a governor aka suggestion to use child services aka government Against parents.whom he disagrees with and suggesting he should mind his fkn business

Then you 2 complain that a private citizen comments on an elected official lack of that official to comment on a national tragedy are the same??

Can’t wait to hear the logic ..
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And here I thought you were referring to Raider Ronnie, who made a point to say he wasn't going to put his boat in the water due to the cost of gas under the Biden administration, then goes and says in a Weekend Plans thread that he was doing a charter.........So what was it, Ronnie? In the water or up on the hard?

You 2 are. Classic care to provide how a governor aka suggestion to use child services aka government Against parents.whom he disagrees with and suggesting he should mind his fkn business

Then you 2 complain that a private citizen comments on an elected official lack of that official to comment on a national tragedy are the same??

Can’t wait to hear the logic ..
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you said he didn’t comment on the shooting, i proved he did. just say you made a mistake and move on for gods sake, would that kill you?

maybe every time the stock market goes down another 10%, we can have another scripted news conference about january 6th. that’s what people want to hear. No one cares what food costs, or what gas costs, or that their 401ks and college savings plans are sinking.

We want to hear more resins why Trump is bad. That’s what matters!

Taking little kids to drag queen shows is a great stand to make. stick with that. that will be very popular outside of CA and NY.


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Ronnie probably saw parts of the hearings and couldn’t believe The Big Lie was THE big lie and decided I need to go to my happy place and launched the boat.

as of late april, ron’s approval ratings in FL were 59%.

yeah, the left really has him
on the ropes.

https://thecapitolist.com/ahead-of-election-desantis-approval-nears-60-percent/amp/
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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has a new cause: using the power of the state to harass parents who see drag performances as family entertainment.


Last week, DeSantis (R) projected distress after video emerged of children attending a “Drag the Kids to Pride” show in Texas. “That is totally inappropriate,” he said. “That is not something children should be exposed to.” He added: “We have child protective statutes on the books,” and “we may have the ability to deal with something like that.”

Wow he had nothing to say about the children gunned down in a Texas but this…

Smells very fascist but Ron supporters call it Merica

Constant dog whistle footing to pander for the mouth breathers who will vote for him in 2024. He doesn’t care about real issues. He just is pushing all the buttons to stay in the National news.
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you said he didn’t comment on the shooting, i proved he did. just say you made a mistake and move on for gods sake, would that kill you?

maybe every time the stock market goes down another 10%, we can have another scripted news conference about january 6th. that’s what people want to hear. No one cares what food costs, or what gas costs, or that their 401ks and college savings plans are sinking.

We want to hear more resins why Trump is bad. That’s what matters!

Taking little kids to drag queen shows is a great stand to make. stick with that. that will be very popular outside of CA and NY.


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Apparently Flip Wilson terrified DeathSantis as a child, meanwhile his pet Russian agent Christina Pushaw who got caught being an unregistered foreign agent.

Why does Desantis have a foreign agent as his press secretary?

Where did that happen before?
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Constant dog whistle footing to pander for the mouth breathers who will vote for him in 2024. He doesn’t care about real issues. He just is pushing all the buttons to stay in the National news.
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people and businesses are moving to his state in massive numbers. is that not real? i can send my kids to public universities in FL and pay non resident rates, for less money than it costs to send my kids to UCONN and pay in state tuition.

that’s real, is t it? his state has no income tax yet they manage to offer college tuition to people for far less than CT can manage.

That’s real.
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And here I thought you were referring to Raider Ronnie, who made a point to say he wasn't going to put his boat in the water due to the cost of gas under the Biden administration, then goes and says in a Weekend Plans thread that he was doing a charter.........So what was it, Ronnie? In the water or up on the hard?



Did I say I did a charter with my boat ???
My boat is in my big shelter at my house.
I’m running an Ave Maria boat on the weekends
What does my boat have to do with this topic ???
I didn’t even reply

I also posted in the weekend tread I was going to the gun range.
I just came back from the range tonight with my younger son.
You want a report on that also ?
100 rounds of 9mm & it felt awesome 👏
With the $ I’m saving on fuel & dockage I’m ready to purchase a pre-ban AR-15.
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people and businesses are moving to his state in massive numbers. is that not real? i can send my kids to public universities in FL and pay non resident rates, for less money than it costs to send my kids to UCONN and pay in state tuition.

that’s real, is t it? his state has no income tax yet they manage to offer college tuition to people for far less than CT can manage.

That’s real.
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I love being lectured about the dire state of the U.S. economy, and the (undeniable) hit on Americans’ wages from inflation, by Trumplicans who don’t support raising the minimum wage, providing affordable childcare, or guaranteeing universal healthcare.
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I love being lectured about the dire state of the U.S. economy, and the (undeniable) hit on Americans’ wages from inflation, by Trumplicans who don’t support raising the minimum wage, providing affordable childcare, or guaranteeing universal healthcare.
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How’s that $15 an hr working out for everyone ???
That $15 doesn’t buy 1/3 of what those people were able to buy during Trumps years.
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How’s that $15 an hr working out for everyone ???
That $15 doesn’t buy 1/3 of what those people were able to buy during Trumps years.
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The national debt has rose by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office. That’s nearly twice as much as what Americans owe on student loans, car loans, credit cards and every other type of debt other than mortgages, combined, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It amounts to about $23,500 in new federal debt for every person in the country.

Send him some more money, he needs it
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How’s that $15 an hr working out for everyone ???
That $15 doesn’t buy 1/3 of what those people were able to buy during Trumps years.
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Just going to preserve this right here. Please, get help.

And here I thought you were referring to Raider Ronnie, who made a point to say he wasn't going to put his boat in the water due to the cost of gas under the Biden administration, then goes and says in a Weekend Plans thread that he was doing a charter.........So what was it, Ronnie? In the water or up on the hard?



Also
I haven’t burned gas in years.
Diesel in current & prior boat.

Any more questions or comments Smart Guy ?

Constant dog whistle footing to pander for the mouth breathers who will vote for him in 2024. He doesn’t care about real issues. He just is pushing all the buttons to stay in the National news.
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and that’s my point.
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you said he didn’t comment on the shooting, i proved he did. just say you made a mistake and move on for gods sake, would that kill you?

maybe every time the stock market goes down another 10%, we can have another scripted news conference about january 6th. that’s what people want to hear. No one cares what food costs, or what gas costs, or that their 401ks and college savings plans are sinking.

We want to hear more resins why Trump is bad. That’s what matters!

Taking little kids to drag queen shows is a great stand to make. stick with that. that will be very popular outside of CA and NY.


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Again Jim once again is suggesting a comment even if the content of the comment lumps in every shooting in America in 20 years

Is a comment

Hea I bet someone saying no comment. meets you love of being technically correct.

Content means nothing
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Again Jim once again is suggesting a comment even if the content of the comment lumps in every shooting in America in 20 years

Is a comment

Hea I bet someone saying no comment. meets you love of being technically correct.

Content means nothing
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you said he hasn’t commented on it, he did. I’m sorry you got caught lying.

Desantis approval rate is a hair under 60% in a state that people can’t move to fast enough. Despite having no income tax, FL has managed to find a way to offer a quality of life that’s enough for many americans. That’s called “winning.”.

Has Biden commented on Kavanaugh almost getting assassinated?
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Has Biden commented on Kavanaugh almost getting assassinated?
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On man I missed this. Did he use a gun and did the gun misfire? or did he miss? Did a SS agent take a bullet for the Pres?

On man I missed this. Did he use a gun and did the gun misfire? or did he miss? Did a SS agent take a bullet for the Pres?

any chance you can answer my question? Wayne criticized Desantis for not commenting on an event ( even though he did comment on it, to which wayne replied he should
mind his own bee’s wax).

I asked Biden commented on the Kavanaugh plot, because as of recently he hadn’t.

Your side almost certainly leaked the opinion. Your side published their home addresses. Your sides press secretary said that Biden encourages people to protest at their homes, in blatant violation of federal law. Your sides senate majority leader called kavanaugh out by name, said he’d reap the whirlwind and never know what hit him. And your sides AG refuses to enforce black letter federal law even after the assassination attempt.

And America sees all this.

The ethnic group that Biden has the lowest approval ratings with? Hispanics. IF that’s true, and that’s a big if, the gop can’t lose.
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Trying to dodge that must have hurt your back.

Trying to dodge that must have hurt your back.

you’re the one who dodged my question paul.

the answer to all your questions is a resounding no.

but he came closer to killing kavanaugh than anyone did of toppling o government in jail day 6.

in a few months, the speculation is over, we get to see what america has to say about all this. We’ll see who understands what america is feeling, and who has his head in the sand b their fingers in heir ears.

in a TX special election last night, a house seat that had been blue for 10 years went red. The winning republican was a female Hispanic, the first ever mexican born member of congress.

not a good sign for the DNC.


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You made a statement that Kavanaugh almost got assassinated and I asked for more details and you go off on a tangent.

You made a statement that Kavanaugh almost got assassinated and I asked for more details and you go off on a tangent.

I said there was an attempt on his life. who knows if he “almost” got assassinated, maybe it was never any closer to happening than the January 6 knuckleheads came to overthrowing the government.

now, i answered your questions directly and clearly. Any cha ce you can show me the same courtesy? Has Biden commented on the fact that someone showed up at Kavanaughs house planning to murder him?
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Has Biden commented on Kavanaugh almost getting assassinated?
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I said there was an attempt on his life. who knows if he “almost” got assassinated, maybe it was never any closer to happening than the January 6 knuckleheads came to overthrowing the government.


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NM

On man I missed this. Did he use a gun and did the gun misfire? or did he miss? Did a SS agent take a bullet for the Pres?



No
Joe was busy fighting in WW1 & when that war ended he was accepted at the Naval Accademy
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And here I thought you were referring to Raider Ronnie, who made a point to say he wasn't going to put his boat in the water due to the cost of gas under the Biden administration, then goes and says in a Weekend Plans thread that he was doing a charter.........So what was it, Ronnie? In the water or up on the hard?






Hey jackass
What’s the matter, no reply ???
You waiting for pictures also ???
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NM

so you won’t answer my question. Didn’t expect so.
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I said there was an attempt on his life. who knows if he “almost” got assassinated, maybe it was never any closer to happening than the January 6 knuckleheads came to overthrowing the government.

now, i answered your questions directly and clearly. Any cha ce you can show me the same courtesy? Has Biden commented on the fact that someone showed up at Kavanaughs house planning to murder him?
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Do you think it is wise to give people with issues attention from important public figures?
How will this work out when the next person who wants to go out with a bang and be famous shoots...........

he came closer to killing kavanaugh than anyone did of toppling o government in jail day 6.


I fell off my chair on that one ....

Talk about fabricating a story .. A he turned himself in B) no one even know his proximity to to his house please define near the Maryland home

and I love this one Biden and Democrats 'complicit' after attempted attack on Justice Brett Kavanaugh ..

sitting in a car thinking about something isn't an attempted attack

but you always have Conservatives

Fox's Jesse Watters suggests Joe Biden ordered an assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh
Watters: “Did the orders come all the way from the top?”

NM

the guy was charged with attempted murder. not threatening or trespassing.
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And now Ron D from FLA has a new friend

who Might be a drag queen herself?

And now Ron D from FLA has a new friend

who Might be a drag queen herself?

if the voters don’t like desantis, he’s up for re election in november, that’s the remedy. His approval ratings are pretty healthy in his state, which lets be honest, is why you’re scared sh*tless about the prospect of any democrat running against him in 2024, because he’s a very effective governor.

no state income tax, yet the state creates a landscape where huge numbers of americans want to live.

No state income tax, yet his public universities cost a ton less than what UCONN costs, and i pay enormous state taxes. ant that a good thing? to offer low cost college education?

His state didn’t shut down like others, and his state has a huge elderly population, yet his covid death rate was lower than that of NY, where the governor was called the “gold standard” by Biden, got book deals and Hollywood awards tossed at his feet. And Desantis did better by any conceivable
measure, despite having more elderly folks.

People and businesses are moving to his state. There’s a reason why. And it’s not just weather, or people
would also be moving to southern CA, and they aren’t.
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sitting in a car thinking about something isn't an attempted attack
?”

he was charged with attempted murder.
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he was charged with attempted murder.
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Yes Jim and as I’ve said even Allen Dershowitz said he was over charged . DAs overcharge all the time it’s not a shocking concept it’s a well know tactic
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Yes Jim and as I’ve said even Allen Dershowitz said he was over charged . DAs overcharge all the time it’s not a shocking concept it’s a well know tactic
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do you know the gunmen knew his address?
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Yes Jim and as I’ve said even Allen Dershowitz said he was over charged . DAs overcharge all the time it’s not a shocking concept it’s a well know tactic
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so if i said, correctly, that “even Alan Dershowitz” said the impeachment charges against Trump
were wrong, would that convince you?

you say “even Dershowitz” as if his conclusions are proof of what’s right. Fine. I can cite his opinions all day where he sided with the gop in a way where guys say he was a moron.
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so if i said, correctly, that “even Alan Dershowitz” said the impeachment charges against Trump
were wrong, would that convince you?

you say “even Dershowitz” as if his conclusions are proof of what’s right. Fine. I can cite his opinions all day where he sided with the gop in a way where guys say he was a moron.
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No, actually he said “even Alan Dershowitz” as someone you had cited as a reference to try and prove a point.
Apparently you don’t find Dershowitz a reliable source even though you cite him, do you?
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States that pre-ordered COVID vaccines for children:

AL, AK, AZ, AR, CA, CO, CT, DE, GA, HI, ID, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, MS, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NJ, NM, NY, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, RI, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, VA, WA, WV, WI, WY

States that refused:

FL

Because the State will tell you what to do and how to think
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States that pre-ordered COVID vaccines for children:

AL, AK, AZ, AR, CA, CO, CT, DE, GA, HI, ID, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, MS, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NJ, NM, NY, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, RI, SC, SD, TN, TX, UT, VT, VA, WA, WV, WI, WY

States that refused:

FL

Because the State will tell you what to do and how to think
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states where 800 people
a day are moving to? FL.

Dr Faucci testified before the senate that there is literally zero data that kids under 5 benefit from the vaccines.

you failed to mention that what they failed to more order, is vaccines for kids under 5. Who according to Dr Faucci, have nothing to gain from faking the vaccine

You left that out. Innocent slip I’m
sure


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states where 800 people
a day are moving to? FL.

Dr Faucci testified before the senate that there is literally zero data that kids under 5 benefit from the vaccines.

you failed to mention that what they failed to more order, is vaccines for kids under 5. Who according to Dr Faucci, have nothing to gain from faking the vaccine

You left that out. Innocent slip I’m
sure


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Now you’re quoting Fauci, the man who you demonize, to support your belief that the government should control your choices as long as it makes your narrative work.
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Now you’re mis-quoting Fauci, the man who you demonize, to support your belief that the government should control your choices as long as it makes your narrative work.
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Fixed

Fixed

Paul
asked Faucci for the data showing that kids under 5 benefit from the vaccines. He had nothin’.

Republicans are the ones who think the government should
control choices?

That’s a good one. Stick with that, that’ll save you in November!
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Paul
asked Faucci for the data showing that kids under 5 benefit from the vaccines. He had nothin’.


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do you ever read beyond a headline


During a Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee hearing, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., asked Fauci if he was aware of any studies that showed a reduction in deaths or hospitalizations for children who had received boosters.

"Right now, there's not enough data that has been accumulated, Senator Paul, to indicate that that's the case," Fauci
stated.


you have a loose relationship with the definition of Truth don't you !!



Jim keep thinking Republicans are not the ones who think the government should control choices?

when faced with all the evidence that's exactly what they want to do !

Ask gay families ask Trans families Ask Drag queens . ask women seeking an abortion ask the families of the murdered children Ask the people of AMERICA who watched the GOP AKA Trump try to steal their votes and then see that same GOP refuse ! and actually Admit it actually happened..

then try to tell me and other Republicans want Americans to Have choices :rotflmao::rotflmao:

do you ever read beyond a headline


During a Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee hearing, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., asked Fauci if he was aware of any studies that showed a reduction in deaths or hospitalizations for children who had received boosters.

"Right now, there's not enough data that has been accumulated, Senator Paul, to indicate that that's the case," Fauci
stated.


you have a loose relationship with the definition of Truth don't you !!



Jim keep thinking Republicans are not the ones who think the government should control choices?

when faced with all the evidence that's exactly what they want to do !

Ask gay families ask Trans families Ask Drag queens . ask women seeking an abortion ask the families of the murdered children Ask the people of AMERICA who watched the GOP AKA Trump try to steal their votes and then see that same GOP refuse it Admit actually happened

then try to tell me and other Republicans want Americans to Have choices :rotflmao::rotflmao:

you basically confirmed what i claimed Faucci said….there’s zero evidence that kids younger then 5 need this.

do you really think desantis doesn’t care about little kids?

i’m not relying on any headline, I saw Fauccis testimony.

If, two years from now, FL has a high mortality rate among kids younger than 5, i’ll be the first to admit Desantis was wrong. But with all the things Fesantis was shown to be right about, have you ever co ceded a single
one?

No. because all you care about is The Narrative. The Narrative is going to check itself into rehab in November.
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Jim has a serious reading comprehension issue.

Jim has a serious reading comprehension issue.

Oh this just the tip of the issue iceberg with Jim, I think he might have issues sleeping at night, tossing and turning in anticipation of his next daily SB political board session.

Number of children sexually assaulted by Catholic priests: 4,228
Number of children sexually assaulted in the Boy Scouts: 82,000
Number of children sexually assaulted by drag queens during library story time: 0
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Jim has a serious reading comprehension issue.

read this…Desantis’ approval
ratings are a tick under 60%, he didn’t impose lockdowns on his citizens that even John’s Hopkins said didn’t change mortality rates, his state has no income tax, and 800 people a day are moving there from other states.

That’s called winning. And Desantis debating any prominent democrat would be as close a contest as Mr T getting in a wresting match with Don Knotts.
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Oh this just the tip of the issue iceberg with Jim, I think he might have issues sleeping at night, tossing and turning in anticipation of his next daily SB political board session.

yet it’s all you guys who lob baseless insults then scurry off. Why is that?
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yet it’s all you guys who lob baseless insults then scurry off. Why is that?
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Because I like to get a rise out of you, it’s fun and I don’t take life so seriously and this forum I learned a long time back is just a complete waste of time.

Dr Faucci testified before the senate that there is literally zero data that kids under 5 benefit from the vaccines.

you failed to mention that what they failed to more order, is vaccines for kids under 5. Who according to Dr Faucci, have nothing to gain from faking the vaccine
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No he didn’t.

he didn’t impose lockdowns on his citizens that even John’s Hopkins said didn’t change mortality rates,
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No they didn’t.

No they didn’t.

yes they did. here it is. not ambiguous at all.

800 americans a day are moving to FL. there’s a reason for that. I know how much you can’t bear to say out loud, what the reason is, your central nervous system would implode.

https://padailypost.com/2022/02/07/johns-hopkins-study-finds-lockdowns-didnt-work-should-be-rejected-out-of-hand-in-the-future/



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Breaking News: Elon Musk has confirmed that he will, in fact, be purchasing Ron DeSantis.
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yes they did. here it is. not ambiguous at all.

800 americans a day are moving to FL. there’s a reason for that. I know how much you can’t bear to say out loud, what the reason is, your central nervous system would implode.

https://padailypost.com/2022/02/07/johns-hopkins-study-finds-lockdowns-didnt-work-should-be-rejected-out-of-hand-in-the-future/



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Jim, is this where you’re getting your info from?
Marjorie Taylor Greene just said that Republicans will leave Georgia in a mass exodus if Stacey Abrams wins the governor’s race this year. “They’ll move to Alabama, Tennessee, or Florida.”
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Jim, is this where you’re getting your info from?
Marjorie Taylor Greene just said that Republicans will leave Georgia in a mass exodus if Stacey Abrams wins the governor’s race this year. “They’ll move to Alabama, Tennessee, or Florida.”
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Spence denied that JH concluded that lockdowns were useless. i posted a link that summarized the study, and the John’s Hopkins researchers said exactly what i aimed they said.

if you and spence don’t like
what John’s Hopkins concluded, take it up with them. I’m just posting what they said.

I didn’t say people
would flee if abrams won. i said people
are moving to FL in big numbers, because that’s what’s happening. Again, if you don’t like that fact, that’s on you, but it’s a fact.
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Here’s some facts for you

For years, the Census has published a more accurate poverty rate, taking account of the cost of living. Here are the latest figures:
California15.4%
Mississippi14.5
Florida 14.0
Louisiana13.9
New York13.3
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Here’s some facts for you

For years, the Census has published a more accurate poverty rate, taking account of the cost of living. Here are the latest figures:
California15.4%
Mississippi14.5
Florida 14.0
Louisiana13.9
New York13.3
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so does that mean that you think California Governor Newsom is worse than Desantis?

800 people a day are disagreeing with you.
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us: left govt, high inflation
uk: right govt, high inflation
germany: centrist govt, high inflation
italy: everyone in govt, high inflation

wild guess it’s not the govt
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Ted Cruz gets heckled and harassed by a right winger at TX State GOP Convention, who calls him a coward and a globalist, asks him how he can like Trump after he called his wife ugly, then finished with Cancun.

Ted is among those who created this monster.
Chummed the waters.
Whipped the mob into a frenzy.
Told them to “fight like hell!!”
Told them that violence was not only ok, it was EXPECTED if they didn’t want to “lose their freedoms”.

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yes they did. here it is. not ambiguous at all.

https://padailypost.com/2022/02/07/johns-hopkins-study-finds-lockdowns-didnt-work-should-be-rejected-out-of-hand-in-the-future/



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Why I stopped mostly posting here, besides the time sink factor, is that we rehash the same #^&#^&#^&#^& every other week (on both sides).

Jim, this article came out in February. There was a thread on it when you posted it then. It was a non-reviewed paper by a trio of economists. This was not a John Hopkins study, it was a #^&#^&#^&#^&tily done literature review that got crucified by actual public health and epidemiologists. Read some of the reviews of this work and how seriously flawed it was.

From one article reviewing the referenced piece
'For starters, experts commenting for the U.K. Science Media Centre warned about the paper's questionable definition of "lockdown." Samir Bhatt, DPhil, a professor of statistics and public health at Imperial College London, said in that statement that the study's "most inconsistent aspect is the reinterpreting of what a lockdown is."

"The authors define lockdown as 'the imposition of at least one compulsory, non-pharmaceutical intervention [NPI].' This would make a mask-wearing policy a lockdown," Bhatt stated.'

I am not saying lockdowns should have been done, or shouldn't have been done. In the first months of the pandemic there were A LOT of unknowns of this thing. Clearly there were innumerous negative consequences, but hindsight is 2020, and that is not the direction things went later in the pandemic.

back to :hidin:

so does that mean that you think California Governor Newsom is worse than Desantis?

800 people a day are disagreeing with you.
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You do realize that the 1200 people a day moving to California disagree with you
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You do realize that the 1200 people a day moving to California disagree with you
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hang on there… you posted murder rates by state as evidence Desantis is a bad governor. CA has higher murder rates. So why isn’t Newsom worse?

and growth rates are much higher in FL than CA…

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/fastest-growing-states

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the far-right Proud Boys crashed a children's drag queen storytelling event and shouted homophobic and transphobic slurs, in what Alameda, Calif.,

Who inspired the idea to attack drag queens

Who’s the leader and who’s the followers?
. Ron or the proud boys
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the 10 states with the fastest growth rates:

Idaho Is 1st

Florida is 9th on the list

But Fla is a conservatives utopia brought to you By Ron D and anyone moving there is escaping liberalism according to Jim
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hang on there… you posted murder rates by state as evidence Desantis is a bad governor. CA has higher murder rates. So why isn’t Newsom worse?

and growth rates are much higher in FL than CA…

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/fastest-growing-states

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Little difference between DeathSantis or Trump

The fact that the GOP is trying to sell DeSantis as “Trump, but smarter” should be a giant red flag.

Ron DeSantis appointed a QAnon conspiracy theorist, who believes there was fraud in the 2020 election & Trump' won. He's Florida's new Secretary of State, a position that oversees elections.
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the 10 states with the fastest growth rates:

Idaho Is 1st

Florida is 9th on the list

But Fla is a conservatives utopia brought to you By Ron D and anyone moving there is escaping liberalism according to Jim
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well it’s a bit easier for a teeny state to have a high growth rate, right?

how many states with the top ten growth rates, are blue? half?
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the far-right Proud Boys crashed a children's drag queen storytelling event and shouted homophobic and transphobic slurs, in what Alameda, Calif.,

Who inspired the idea to attack drag queens

Who’s the leader and who’s the followers?
. Ron or the proud boys
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so it’s “attacking drag queens”, to say they shouldn’t do their thing in front of little
kids?

i don’t think america agrees with you on that.

there’s a reason why bedrooms have doors. How about we stop shoving certain sexualities in everyone’s face, and keep
it private like it’s supposed to be.

I was pro gay marriage before you i bet ( because i was pro gay marriage when Hilary and Obama were adamantly opposed to it, which we all know means you were also opposed to it), just don’t shove it in my face, leave me out of it. Consenting adults can do whatever they want between themselves, just have some modesty about it.
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I think it’s time you came out of the closet
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Why I stopped mostly posting here, besides the time sink factor, is that we rehash the same #^&#^&#^&#^& every other week (on both sides).

Jim, this article came out in February. There was a thread on it when you posted it then. It was a non-reviewed paper by a trio of economists. This was not a John Hopkins study, it was a #^&#^&#^&#^&tily done literature review that got crucified by actual public health and epidemiologists. Read some of the reviews of this work and how seriously flawed it was.

From one article reviewing the referenced piece
'For starters, experts commenting for the U.K. Science Media Centre warned about the paper's questionable definition of "lockdown." Samir Bhatt, DPhil, a professor of statistics and public health at Imperial College London, said in that statement that the study's "most inconsistent aspect is the reinterpreting of what a lockdown is."

"The authors define lockdown as 'the imposition of at least one compulsory, non-pharmaceutical intervention [NPI].' This would make a mask-wearing policy a lockdown," Bhatt stated.'

I am not saying lockdowns should have been done, or shouldn't have been done. In the first months of the pandemic there were A LOT of unknowns of this thing. Clearly there were innumerous negative consequences, but hindsight is 2020, and that is not the direction things went later in the pandemic.

back to :hidin:

It’s just a never ending circle jerk. I post when Jim gets outrageous and I feel the need to poke him. Or if the foil hat conspiracy theory RR needs to be poked fun at, so he can start pounding away with ####&&&$$$((( hahahahaha.

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Your so deep in denial it’s scary

That you think it’s just people
saying they shouldn’t do their thing in front of little
kids?

And conservatives are protecting children from Groomers at Disney saving transgender 5 year olds from abusive liberal parents

Love how you show your support of gays

just don’t shove it in my face, and stay in the closet
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Your so deep in denial it’s scary

That you think it’s just people
saying they shouldn’t do their thing in front of little
kids?

And conservatives are protecting children from Groomers at Disney saving transgender 5 year olds from abusive liberal parents

Love how you show your support of gays

just don’t shove it in my face, and stay in the closet
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i don’t think anyone wants me shoving my heterosexuality in their face. and i don’t consider myself a victim because of that. having a speck of
modesty isn’t the same as getting shoved back into the closet. not even close.

where were the charges that hilary and obama were bigots when they opposed gay marriage very recently


it’s ok when they do it.
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Texas GOP goes full MAGA at 2022 convention

the new party platform would include declaring homosexuality “an abnormal lifestyle choice,

Texas Republicans approved a resolution declaring that President Biden "was not legitimately elected,

The platform also calls for the abolishment of the 1965 Voting Rights Act

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), who has been taking part in bipartisan gun control negotiations, was booed by the crowd

Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas) and members of his staff were physically attacked at the convention, with the assailants saying Crenshaw should be hung and calling him "eyepatch


The Fort Worth chapter of the Log Cabin Republicans, a national Republican LGBTQ organization, was excluded from the event after they were not allowed to set up a booth at the convention


Keep thinking the GOP is the GOP of old
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Texas GOP goes full MAGA at 2022 convention

the new party platform would include declaring homosexuality “an abnormal lifestyle choice,

Texas Republicans approved a resolution declaring that President Biden "was not legitimately elected,

The platform also calls for the abolishment of the 1965 Voting Rights Act

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), who has been taking part in bipartisan gun control negotiations, was booed by the crowd

Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texas) and members of his staff were physically attacked at the convention, with the assailants saying Crenshaw should be hung and calling him "eyepatch


The Fort Worth chapter of the Log Cabin Republicans, a national Republican LGBTQ organization, was excluded from the event after they were not allowed to set up a booth at the convention


Keep thinking the GOP is the GOP of old
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today’s gop is poised to make historic gains in november.
who said it’s the gop of old?
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Jim is really confused about what sexuality really means.

Jim is really confused about what sexuality really means.

I’m pretty sure you don’t know what tolerance really means.

Like wayne, i know for a certain that i was pro gay marriage before you. I know this, because i was pro gay marriage when obama was adamantly opposed to it, and we all know it’ll be a cold day before you ever disagreed with him on anything.

I’ll tolerate that all day long and happily explain why. But i don’t want it shoved in my face every time i turn around, i dont want to see parades celebrating any kind of sexuality, and i really don’t want my little kids seeing it.

There’s a big, big difference between tolerating something and celebrating something. I don’t think anyone’s homosexuality is any more of an accomplishment than my heterosexuality.

What is a cause for celebration, is that we’ve all evolved from the very recent close-minded opinions of people like Hilary and Obama ( and nearly everyone in the GOP obviously).

The fact that one person is attracted to another person, isn’t anything to celebrate or be proud of, it’s something that’s nobody else’s business.
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Better be careful, you might think your contrarian views would be acceptable

US Senate candidate Eric Greitens says he is going “RINO hunting.” The 2022 Republican Party.
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In his new post on Truth Social, Gavin Newsom posts a clip that CA had a higher GDP growth than any red state last year, and the Top 3 were all blue states.
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In his new post on Truth Social, Gavin Newsom posts a clip that CA had a higher GDP growth than any red state last year, and the Top 3 were all blue states.
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so murder rates by state matter to criticize Desantis, but the fact that murder rates are higher in CA, doesnt say anything about Newsom? Will you ever explain why that is? I’m curious.
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Jim midterms historically flip not sure why you think this some Nostradamus moment
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Jim midterms historically flip not sure why you think this some Nostradamus moment
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because it’s not looking to be an average midterm shift.

you think this is just going to be average?

all the polls, the elections that have happened recently, all points to a massacre.

If the gop gets over 40% of the hispanic vote, the left will get almost wiped out. That’s a very very big if, but piling suggests it’s possible. who knows if polling is accurate.




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In their platform, the Texas Republicans invoked “God” or the “Creator” 18 times and “sovereignty” or sovereign power 24 times. And the word “democracy”? Only once — in reference to China.

Guess your off to Texas
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In their platform, the Texas Republicans invoked “God” or the “Creator” 18 times and “sovereignty” or sovereign power 24 times. And the word “democracy”? Only once — in reference to China.

Guess your off to Texas
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texas republicans don’t t like
democracy, that’s what you’re saying? you’ve really got your fingers on the pulse.

texas republicans are in favor of big government.
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Here is a list of Republicans who spoke out against U.S. Senate candidate and former Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens's violent terrorist video yesterday:
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texas republicans don’t t like
democracy, that’s what you’re saying? you’ve really got your fingers on the pulse.

texas republicans are in favor of big government.
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Ask them

Texas GOP wants to vote on whether to secede from US

Republicans say Texas “should reassert its status as an independent nation” and hold referendum in 2023
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Ask them

Texas GOP wants to vote on whether to secede from US

Republicans say Texas “should reassert its status as an independent nation” and hold referendum in 2023
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if you don’t know how Texans feel about freedom, you are clueless.

i think o splitting the country in two is a great idea. there’s absolutely nothing that unites us anymore, zip.
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The Faux is strong in you.

I don't think people realize just how insanely dangerous it is that right wing media can literally make up a story and it is taken as fact by millions.

This is how Nazism rose. It's the essence of totalitarianism. Orwell was more concerned about it than war itself.
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if you don’t know how Texans feel about freedom, you are clueless.

i think o splitting the country in two is a great idea. there’s absolutely nothing that unites us anymore, zip.
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If you’re speaking for MAGA, you might be right

The January 6 Select Committee just unveiled footage of RNC Chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel saying that the Republican National Committee was “helping” the Trump campaign to illegally assemble fake electors to steal the election from American voters.

Everything Trump touches dies
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Just like the Truth you have a loose meaning of Freedom in a constitutional sense

Texas Republicans version of freedom is masked in oppression of those who won’t get in line and march to the same music !


Let them leave . It will be just another 3rd world nation and back to being part of Mexico in 10 years .
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Hate to see any state go but since they seem to hate democracy so much maybe it is for the better.

I assume that since it will be all R states, my taxes will go down now that we don't have to carry them.

Texas Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
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Louisiana Gov. Edwards Signs Bill Making Mailing of Abortion Pills a Crime

Yep conservatives sure have a funny way of supporting freedom
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Democratic Florida frontrunner Charlie Crist is polling one point higher than Ron DeSantis.

DeathSantis can be DeFeated.
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Louisiana Gov. Edwards Signs Bill Making Mailing of Abortion Pills a Crime

Yep conservatives sure have a funny way of supporting freedom
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conservatives like freedom, but aren’t keen on what we’d consider to be murder of the unborn.

The fact that you think
opposing abortion is inconsistent with conservative ideals, shows the depths of your complete ignorance.

Conservatives believe there are two sides to the abortion issue, two people involved.

You’ve said that you oppose
abortion after “viability” - right? does that mean you oppose freedom after that point?

conservatism isnt the same
as anarchy.
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“Conservatism isn’t the same as anarchy”

Today 6 SCOTUS justices who go to work every day in one of the most well-guarded buildings in the country ruled against commonsense gun control laws to protect students, teachers, grocery store clerks, and doctors that go to school and work every day without such a privilege.
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“Conservatism isn’t the same as anarchy”

Today 6 SCOTUS justices who go to work every day in one of the most well-guarded buildings in the country ruled against commonsense gun control laws to protect students, teachers, grocery store clerks, and doctors that go to school and work every day without such a privilege.
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and your side is publishing the names of the schools where their kids go. so spare me the civics lesson.

saying a proposed law is popular, is t a reason. why SCOTUS should vote for it. They are supposed to be guided by the constitution, not public opinion.

“Gimme what i want” isnt a legal
argument.
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Neither is make up #^&#^&#^&#^&

It’s interesting that it’s called ‘originalism’ when the Second Amendment ORIGINALLY was interpreted entirely differently than it is now.
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Neither is make up #^&#^&#^&#^&

It’s interesting that it’s called ‘originalism’ when the Second Amendment ORIGINALLY was interpreted entirely differently than it is now.
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so tell us why they made the wrong legal argument.
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so tell us why they made the wrong legal argument.
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You can feel free to read the dissent

SCOTUS is now a hard right-wing Federalist Society majority-Catholic court

with 3 or 4 of the Justices in the extremist Catholic sect Opus Dei.

So now, as I understand the Supreme Court, the government can arrest and jail you without Miranda rights, execute you even if your lawyer screws up, force you to have a baby, and use tax dollars to support religion.

But it can't protect your right to vote or keep you safe from guns.
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You can feel free to read the dissent

SCOTUS is now a hard right-wing Federalist Society majority-Catholic court

with 3 or 4 of the Justices in the extremist Catholic sect Opus Dei.

So now, as I understand the Supreme Court, the government can arrest and jail you without Miranda rights, execute you even if your lawyer screws up, force you to have a baby, and use tax dollars to support religion.

But it can't protect your right to vote or keep you safe from guns.
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sure i can read the dissent. i asked you.

do you can’t tell me why you think they made the wrong argument, you just know you’re supposed to side with the liberals.

The court has been liberal since Warren Burger was on it. elections have consequences.
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You can feel free to read the dissent

SCOTUS is now a hard right-wing Federalist Society majority-Catholic court

with 3 or 4 of the Justices in the extremist Catholic sect Opus Dei.

So now, as I understand the Supreme Court, the government can arrest and jail you without Miranda rights, execute you even if your lawyer screws up, force you to have a baby, and use tax dollars to support religion.

But it can't protect your right to vote or keep you safe from guns.
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the right to own guns is explicitly guaranteed. The right to kill your unborn baby was invented out of thin air by judges who thought it was their job to be activists.

Activists play a very important role. But they make terrible
judges. I guess you have no idea what the blindfold represents on every statue of lady justice in every courthouse in the country.
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the right to own guns is explicitly guaranteed. The right to kill your unborn baby was invented out of thin air by judges who thought it was their job to be activists.

Activists play a very important role. But they make terrible
judges. I guess you have no idea what the blindfold represents on every statue of lady justice in every courthouse in the country.
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“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Actually activist judges have now interpreted this to mean citizens, not militia and overturned a hundred year old state law.

Generations of Supreme Court and academic opinion held that the amendment did not confer on individuals a right “to keep and bear Arms” but, rather, referred only to the privileges belonging to state militias. This was not a controversial view. The late Chief Justice Warren E. Burger said, in 1991, that the idea that the Second Amendment conferred a right for individuals to bear arms was “a fraud on the American public.” Burger was no liberal, and his view simply reflected the overwhelming consensus on the issue at the time.

But hopefully you’ll get the results you wished for.

Over 20,000 civilians have been killed by gun violence in the US in 2022 so far.

Compare that with 4,662 verified civilian war deaths in Ukraine.
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For 108 years, New York has said that anyone who wants to carry a gun in public must apply for a license that shows a demonstrated need to carry the gun beyond average public safety fears. This is known as “proper cause.”

Then conservatives started twisting the constitution.. in the 80s shocking

Now they will be filing lawsuits stating requirements of a permit or license is unconstitutional. And their hand picked justices will do as they are told
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A demonstrated need is protection, you don’t get to decide that it’s not legitimate. SCOTUS did that for you.
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A demonstrated need is protection, you don’t get to decide that it’s not legitimate. SCOTUS did that for you.
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In any event, it’s not called the Bill Of Needs.
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And the second amendment is not included in the bill of rights

Originalism is great because it means whatever my headcanons are about the founding fathers, who were obviously a hive mind, is the basis of all law.
Yea, sure
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Republicans have only won one popular vote in the last 34 years. Democratic Senators represent 40 million more voters than Republican Senators. Doesn’t matter. We have 6 conservative Supreme Court monarchs who call all the shots. This is not what functional democracy looks like.
How dare anyone suggest the court was loaded by the right wing
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since the left has decided we can't count on the police, I think they've demonstrated that we all have a legitimate need :rotf2:



A demonstrated need is protection, you don’t get to decide that it’s not legitimate. SCOTUS did that for you.

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Seems the Truth Has made the case that we can’t count in the police.

since the left has decided we can't count on the police, I think they've demonstrated that we all have a legitimate need :rotf2:

exactly, exactly, exactly.

they want it both ways.
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Republicans have only won one popular vote in the last 34 years. Democratic Senators represent 40 million more voters than Republican Senators. Doesn’t matter. We have 6 conservative Supreme Court monarchs who call all the shots. This is not what functional democracy looks like.
How dare anyone suggest the court was loaded by the right wing
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they don’t have to win the popular vote. why would
they waste energy in CA and NY?

Maybe if your side didn’t go
out of their way to show disdain and contempt for flyover country.

If your side can’t figure out the mathematical realities of the electoral college, maybe that’s their fault.
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since the left has decided we can't count on the police, I think they've demonstrated that we all have a legitimate need :rotf2:

Classic you couldn’t figure out the comments were about uvalde

Let me guess if that was your kids school . You would be out shaking their hands for their hard work and dedication to the community..

It’s odd how conservatives demand accountability from everyone but themselves and those they support

Then try to twist that accountable as some form of plot for discrediting the police or the POTUS

But claiming Biden took showers with his daughter is what exactly ?accountability or Discrediting

Or just the usual Childlike like lies and. Name calling and pedo obsession the right is famous for?
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Classic you couldn’t figure out the comments were about uvalde

Let me guess if that was your kids school . You would be out shaking their hands for their hard work and dedication to the community..

It’s odd how conservatives demand accountability from everyone but themselves and those they support

Then try to twist that accountable as some form of plot for discrediting the police or the POTUS

But claiming Biden took showers with his daughter is what exactly ?accountability or Discrediting

Or just the usual Childlike like lies and. Name calling and pedo obsession the right is famous for?
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because the left wasn’t demonizing the police before Uvalde. Nope.
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because the left wasn’t demonizing the police before Uvalde. Nope.
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https://www.newsmax.com/platinum/school-shooting-police-reputation/2022/06/23/id/1075701/

School shooting errors damaging cops reputation nationwide

See Jim I live in reality not a bubble of excuses and made up lies that the left is demonizing cops or religion or Trump or Ron . But I am the one with a narrative that’s funny

Seems you only want accountability with those you disagree with not based on the merits of why people or groups should be held accountable .. big difference
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There will be high fives all around at the GOP coke orgies tonight.
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There will be high fives all around at the GOP coke orgies tonight.
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And much complaining about the threats from liberal activist judges.

https://www.newsmax.com/platinum/school-shooting-police-reputation/2022/06/23/id/1075701/

School shooting errors damaging cops reputation nationwide

See Jim I live in reality not a bubble of excuses and made up lies that the left is demonizing cops or religion or Trump or Ron . But I am the one with a narrative that’s funny

Seems you only want accountability with those you disagree with not based on the merits of why people or groups should be held accountable .. big difference
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yes you live in reality all right. Nothing screams “real world” like a public sector unionized job.

You claim you live in reality, then deny that your side is painting cops as a bunch of racist assassins

Whatever wayne.

You are inadvertently making a spectacular argument for everyone carrying a. gun.

Enjoy what’s coming in November.
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There will be high fives all around at the GOP coke orgies tonight.
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absolutely. been hoping for 50
years. indescribably rejoicing.

although, i’m not sure what the practical effect is. abortion will still be available, just not everywhere.

for all his many many faults, Trump will go down as, by far, the best friend the unborn ever had in the Oval Office.

liberals wanted criminal justice reform for decades. Conservatives wanted Roe overturned for decades. Trump delivered both. Amazing.
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yes you live in reality all right. Nothing screams “real world” like a public sector unionized job.

You claim you live in reality, then deny that your side is painting cops as a bunch of racist assassins

Whatever wayne.

You are inadvertently making a spectacular argument for everyone carrying a. gun.

Enjoy what’s coming in November.
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All those cops you claim to love all belong to a public sector unionized job. Like I was Lol

You want my retirement and my benefits do my job until then stop being a child and ps 32 years in law enforcement and 30 years in the military

I only paint those cops as racist assassins. When they are racist and assassins .. and some cops are just that

That’s reality not your TV version of law enforcement


Nothings coming in November Jim the Republicans won’t try to help Americans..

It will be hunter Biden 24x7 feeding the base and you with fantasy’s of owing the libs .


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You want my retirement and my benefits do my job until then stop being a child and ps 32 years in law enforcement and 30 years in the military

I only paint those cops as racist assassins. When they are racist and assassins .. and some cops are just that

That’s reality not your TV version of law enforcement



All those cops you claim to love all belong to like a public sector unionized job.
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i didn’t say your compensation is evil. i said it’s not how the real
world works.
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i didn’t say your compensation is evil. i said it’s not how the real
world works.
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Do you hear yourself because you don’t see the benefits of being in a union . It equals not how the real world works ! Sorry can’t follow that logic.

Blame Republicans for your real world they have been attacking unions heath care and the American workers for decades . For corporate donations and profits . And rural Americans have bought into the lie and still do aka Trump who told them just what they want to believe their situation was caused by democrats. When in reality their the ones who sent the jobs overseas and abandoned the working class
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Do you hear yourself because you don’t see the benefits of being in a union . It equals not how the real world works ! Sorry can’t follow that logic.

Blame Republicans for your real world they have been attacking unions heath care and the American workers for decades . For corporate donations and profits . And rural Americans have bought into the lie and still do aka Trump who told them just what they want to believe their situation was caused by democrats. When in reality their the ones who sent the jobs overseas and abandoned the working class
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confiscating money from
your customers through force of law, isn’t the real world works. especially when that money is confiscated by democrat politicians who your union gave huge $$ to.
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And you think the insurance industry has not set things up so they are indispensable and can charge whatever they want?
That people are not required to buy their product?
That they don’t find anyway possible to not pay claims?
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And you think the insurance industry has not set things up so they are indispensable and can charge whatever they want?
That people are not required to buy their product?
That they don’t find anyway possible to not pay claims?
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insurance companies don’t take one cent from customers, which the customer doesn’t choose to give them. competition. free market. Real world.

make that wrong.
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insurance companies don’t take one cent from customers, which the customer doesn’t choose to give them. competition. free market. Real world.

make that wrong.
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Are you telling me workmens compensation, proof of vehicle insurance, bonding for contractors, etc are not required by legislation?
Who lobbied for that coverage?
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Are you telling me workmens compensation, proof of vehicle insurance, bonding for contractors, etc are not required by legislation?
Who lobbied for that coverage?
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i’m telling you MY insurance company cannot take a penny of yours, which you dont freely choose to give to them.

you may have to buy insurance, but not from any one company. each company has to make its customers want to hand over their money. That’s very different from deducting it directly from everyone’s paycheck. Couldn’t be more different.

Make. That. Wrong.
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confiscating money from
your customers through force of law, isn’t the real world works. especially when that money is confiscated by democrat politicians who your union gave huge $$ to.
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Jim it’s called an agency fee only losers and Republicans want union pay and benefit with out paying for the representation and bargaining that got them the benefit

Your not required to be a union member but are required to pay for the service .

But I understand the truth doesn’t matter but the lie does
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Jim it’s called an agency fee only losers and Republicans want union pay and benefit with out paying for the representation and bargaining that got them the benefit

Your not required to be a union member but are required to pay for the service .

But I understand the truth doesn’t matter but the lie does
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i was a teacher and i was required to join the union and
pay dues.

that’s another way it’s not the real world. why should i have to join a political
organization if i want to serve the public?

we’re way off topic. and i deeply respect and appreciate corrections staff.
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i’m telling you MY insurance company cannot take a penny of yours, which you dont freely choose to give to them.

you may have to buy insurance, but not from any one company. each company has to make its customers want to hand over their money. That’s very different from deducting it directly from everyone’s paycheck. Couldn’t be more different.

Make. That. Wrong.
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Who lobbied to make coverage required?
Seen any new startups in insurance?
Everyone I know in the insurance industry does pretty well, of course compensation helps to justify the profit since it is cost based.
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Who lobbied to make coverage required?
Seen any new startups in insurance?
Everyone I know in the insurance industry does pretty well, of course compensation helps to justify the profit since it is cost based.
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if you’re talking about health insurance, democrats lobbied to make it mandatory.

All kinds of new startups! it’s constant. there’s tons of competition. So no clue what you’re referring to.

given your complete ignorance of how the industry works, we’re skeptical of how many pals
you have in it.
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if you’re talking about health insurance, democrats lobbied to make it mandatory.

All kinds of new startups! it’s constant. there’s tons of competition. So no clue what you’re referring to.

given your complete ignorance of how the industry works, we’re skeptical of how many pals
you have in it.
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Got a mouse in your pocket?

Health insurance isn’t mandatory yet, is it?

New carriers other than Insurtechs?
Or rebranded acquisitions?
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Got a mouse in your pocket?

Health insurance isn’t mandatory yet, is it?

New carriers other than Insurtechs?
Or rebranded acquisitions?
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yes it’s mandatory. you pay a fine if you don’t have it.

Why don’t insure techs count as new entrants?
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yes it’s mandatory. you pay a fine if you don’t have it.

Why don’t insure techs count as new entrants?
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The Mandate ended in 2018.

Hopefully the insuretechs will reduce the waste in traditional insurance carriers.

Seen a new traditional carrier?
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The Mandate ended in 2018.

Hopefully the insuretechs will reduce the waste in traditional insurance carriers.

Seen a new traditional carrier?
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i still have to provide proof of health insurance with my tax return to avoid paying a penalty.

why is a company that’s high tech, not a new entrant?

in the products i support, AIG and Coverys are now writing policies starting in 2022. they are new carriers and are traditional.

might not see many new entrants now during the recession.
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AIG started in 1919
Coverys isn’t quite that old but hardly a startup
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AIG started in 1919
Coverys isn’t quite that old but hardly a startup
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AIG can be a new entrant for insurance products they don’t currently sell. not every company sells every product.

you mean startups? all kinds of startups, mostly lean and high tech as you mentioned, and as you dismissed without stating why.
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confiscating money from
your customers through force of law, isn’t the real world works. especially when that money is confiscated by democrat politicians who your union gave huge $$ to.
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Jim you support stealing and receiving pay and benefits with out paying for those

A union is like a car wash you pay to get your car washed . But in your example it a crime to demand a form of payment for services only if it’s a Union and not wanting to pay for that service in your eyes isn’t stealing it’s freedom LOL

In Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, 431 U.S. 209 (1977), the Supreme Court unanimously ruled that no violation of the First and 14th Amendments existed in an arrangement under which nonunion government employees represented by a union had to pay a service fee equal in amount to union fees as a condition of their employment.


But On June 27, 2018, the United States Supreme Court ruled that mandated payment of so-called “agency fees” by non-union members in the public sector violated First Amendment principles protecting freedom of speech and association


By the same crowd who just overturned roe.

Majority: Alito, joined by Roberts, Kennedy, Thomas, Gorsuch

Wow another example of claiming the above unanimous decision was wrong .. and over turning precedents so the conservatives plan is to flood the SC with past cases they don’t like . Till they get sympthic judges like the have and hope
The Justices use the "Rule of Four” And get their case before the court

Now I know how the football coach prayer case made it .
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Jim you support stealing and receiving pay and benefits with out paying for those

A union is like a car wash you pay to get your car washed . But in your example it a crime to demand a form of payment for services only if it’s a Union and not wanting to pay for that service in your eyes isn’t stealing it’s freedom LOL

In Abood v. Detroit Board of Education, 431 U.S. 209 (1977), the Supreme Court unanimously ruled that no violation of the First and 14th Amendments existed in an arrangement under which nonunion government employees represented by a union had to pay a service fee equal in amount to union fees as a condition of their employment.


But On June 27, 2018, the United States Supreme Court ruled that mandated payment of so-called “agency fees” by non-union members in the public sector violated First Amendment principles protecting freedom of speech and association


By the same crowd who just overturned roe.

Majority: Alito, joined by Roberts, Kennedy, Thomas, Gorsuch

Wow another example of claiming the above unanimous decision was wrong .. and over turning precedents so the conservatives plan is to flood the SC with past cases they don’t like . Till they get sympthic judges like the have and hope
The Justices use the "Rule of Four” And get their case before the court

Now I know how the football coach prayer case made it .
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who do i support stealing from? you’re hearing a lot of voices in your head today wayne.

it’s a lot easier for you to respond to gibberish that i never said.

I don’t expect anything for free. but i recognize that the way the “real world” works, is accepting choice and competition. Public sector u jobs dont want that, they want a government mandates monopoly, that way they don’t have to be forced to try as hard as they have to try if there was competition.
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who do i support stealing from? you’re hearing a lot of voices in your head today wayne.

it’s a lot easier for you to respond to gibberish that i never said.

I don’t expect anything for free. but i recognize that the way the “real world” works, is accepting choice and competition. Public sector u jobs dont want that, they want a government mandates monopoly, that way they don’t have to be forced to try as hard as they have to try if there was competition.
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Your upset that if people are required to pay a fee for union bargaining for pay and benefits you considered that idea wrong,

So the logical view is you support people getting Aka stealing a benefit they want but are unwilling to pay for .

Or simply stealing?
How is it anything else
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