20 points underwater according to Quinnipiac ( not Foxnews). that’s before the recession.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-approval-rating-reaches-lowest-of-presidency-poll

Trump Fatigue Syndrome is setting in. Trumps numbers are falling. GOP talking points will now focus on ‘moving on’

Don’t take the bait.

If the focus of the mid-terms is on Trump, Democrats can hold back the historical off year trend and keep Congress.
The generic ballot is much stronger for Democrats than a mid-year cycle would suggest.

Inflation & the economy are huge weaknesses.

The J6 hearings are breaking through with voters.

Using the term ‘MAGA Republicans’ is working with undecideds.

19% of Republicans believe Trump committed a ‘crime’.

Trumps endorsement is no longer determinative in GOP primaries.

Trump supporter DeSantis is starting to outperform Trump in state polls.

Indictments are coming.

Presumably, so is a sustained communications drill to keep the focus on J6

It’s a long way to go until November but the Trump Fatigue among GOP voters is real.

No, not all of them will come back into the fold.

But the lines of the seditionists are cracking. It’s time to advance on them.

Texas seems to be closing ranks to protect Trump. The MAGA GOP controls the TX GOP.

Expelling the Log Cabin Republicans.

Violence against Crenshaw who supported gun control reforms.

Declaring Biden illegitimate as part of the party platform.

How can the GOP simply "move on"?

Everything Trump touches dies
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Do you feel better? :rolleyes:
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Trump Fatigue Syndrome is setting in. Trumps numbers are falling. GOP talking points will now focus on ‘moving on’

Don’t take the bait.

If the focus of the mid-terms is on Trump, Democrats can hold back the historical off year trend and keep Congress.
The generic ballot is much stronger for Democrats than a mid-year cycle would suggest.

Inflation & the economy are huge weaknesses.

The J6 hearings are breaking through with voters.

Using the term ‘MAGA Republicans’ is working with undecideds.

19% of Republicans believe Trump committed a ‘crime’.

Trumps endorsement is no longer determinative in GOP primaries.

Trump supporter DeSantis is starting to outperform Trump in state polls.

Indictments are coming.

Presumably, so is a sustained communications drill to keep the focus on J6

It’s a long way to go until November but the Trump Fatigue among GOP voters is real.

No, not all of them will come back into the fold.

But the lines of the seditionists are cracking. It’s time to advance on them.

Texas seems to be closing ranks to protect Trump. The MAGA GOP controls the TX GOP.

Expelling the Log Cabin Republicans.

Violence against Crenshaw who supported gun control reforms.

Declaring Biden illegitimate as part of the party platform.

How can the GOP simply "move on"?

Everything Trump touches dies
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Biden could shoot someone dead on live tv and you would still be spewing…….. But Trump…….
Pathetic
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Trump Fatigue Syndrome is setting in. Trumps numbers are falling. GOP talking points will now focus on ‘moving on’

Don’t take the bait.

If the focus of the mid-terms is on Trump, Democrats can hold back the historical off year trend and keep Congress.
The generic ballot is much stronger for Democrats than a mid-year cycle would suggest.

Inflation & the economy are huge weaknesses.

The J6 hearings are breaking through with voters.

Using the term ‘MAGA Republicans’ is working with undecideds.

19% of Republicans believe Trump committed a ‘crime’.

Trumps endorsement is no longer determinative in GOP primaries.

Trump supporter DeSantis is starting to outperform Trump in state polls.

Indictments are coming.

Presumably, so is a sustained communications drill to keep the focus on J6

It’s a long way to go until November but the Trump Fatigue among GOP voters is real.

No, not all of them will come back into the fold.

But the lines of the seditionists are cracking. It’s time to advance on them.

Texas seems to be closing ranks to protect Trump. The MAGA GOP controls the TX GOP.

Expelling the Log Cabin Republicans.

Violence against Crenshaw who supported gun control reforms.

Declaring Biden illegitimate as part of the party platform.

How can the GOP simply "move on"?

Everything Trump touches dies
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fortunately for trump isnt on the ballot in november.

2 years later, and all you got is but trump. if he runs again, that’s a totally valid strategy. Today, it’s beyond pathetic.
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Republican leadership KNEW that the Jan 6th hearings will have this effect (= massive damage to GOP into 2022 midterms & 2024 election cycles)

Which is why they tried to block or sabotage the hearings

Fox knew this damages THEIR audience, credibility & tried to hide hearings

Keep dreaming

Everything Trump touches dies
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Republican leadership KNEW that the Jan 6th hearings will have this effect (= massive damage to GOP into 2022 midterms & 2024 election cycles)

Which is why they tried to block or sabotage the hearings

Fox knew this damages THEIR audience, credibility & tried to hide hearings

Keep dreaming

Everything Trump touches dies
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I hear that Chester A Arthur isnt polling well either, why not go with that.
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I hear that Chester A Arthur isnt polling well either, why not go with that.
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The Justice Department subpoenas the head of the Georgia Republican Party. Looks like federal prosecutors are getting serious about Trump’s fake elector scheme. The name in the subpoena is David Shafer. He was the go-to guy for the Trump campaign.
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Biden could shoot someone dead on live tv and you would still be spewing…….. But Trump…….
Pathetic
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Thousands of people marched through London on Saturday to protest the soaring cost of living. Strangely, they did not blame it on Biden.
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FBI agents have served a search warrant on Nevada’s top GOP official as part of the investigation into the fake elector scheme
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Do you feel better? :rolleyes:
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Do you?

It seems that people fail to understand that we are looking at the biggest and most profound scandal in American history which involves many of the leaders of one of our two political parties and hundreds of its elected officials.

The scale and scope of this fraud is enormous.

Among the 84 people who signed bogus documents claiming that Donald Trump won the 2020 election are dozens of local Republican Party leaders, seven current candidates for public office, eight current office holders and at least five previous state and federal office holders.
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No, I just don't want to listen to you incessantly babble on about Trump, can't have a single thread on here without you going on a Trump rant, you're nothing but white noise as far as I'm concerned.
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Pete, you’re fond of saying that everything Trump touches, dies.

Is the GOP dead? The GOP has 50 US Senators, a few seats shy of 50% of the house, and a majority of state legislatures and governorships. Is that a dead party? Really?

Biden inherited a 12 year run of zero inflation and ridiculous economic expansion ( until covid). Looks like that died on Bidens watch. That doesn’t mean it’s all his fault, but stock market run ups and zero inflation died on his watch. And america saw it.

And of all the polling data, of all the zillions of statistics out there, the most potentially impactful is the rightward shift of Hispanics. Is Biden killing the democrat ownership of the hispanic vote?

His monumental ineptitude could literally be causing a seismic shift in the political
landscaoe.

At the national level, we like moderate politicians in both parties, not radical extremists. The trump
administration, for all the legitimate. ethical scandals that should be addressed, governed as centrists. The biden administration governs like the whole country is San francisco. America doesn’t like it.
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The only people who think Trump is a centrist are on the far right
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The trump
administration, governed as centrists

Didn’t know centrists had to try to steal an election
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Quinnipiac poll

How much of the responsibility, if any, do you think Trump bears for the storming of the Capitol on Jan 6, 2021?

Voters
A lot 44%
Some 14%
Not much 14%
None 26%

Following Jan 6 congressional committee news “very closely”
A lot 67%
Some 8%
Not much 6%
None 18%
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The trump
administration, governed as centrists

Didn’t know centrists had to try to steal an election
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well, since congressional democrats also tried to steal an election in 2026, and some of them are still in congress and you won’t criticize them, maybe that is centrist….

what i meant, obviously, was policy. He did things which conservatives like ( tax cuts) and he did things liberals were begging for ( criminal
justice reform, which its worth noting obama chose not to deliver, even though he had a democrat congress to start off. It took Trump to do it).

that pesky Gallup poll, where an all time record number of americans said they were better off after 4 years of his policies. Why do YOU suppose Trump holds the all time
record in that poll?

This is why Desantis terrifies you. Hell advocate for policies that americans actually like, and he won’t make constant ethical
lapses to give you easy fodder. He’s the upside of Trump without the downside, with an unbelievable proven track record as governor to boot, Ivy League, Navy veteran, young…a ton can change between now and then, who knows what mistakes he could
make or already have made. But as of right now, the entire left is scared sh*tless of him. Who’s going to run against him, best bet is probably Gavin Newsom.
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Well apparently you think Trump will easily give up his grift to “Fat” Ron.
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Well apparently you think Trump will easily give up his grift to “Fat” Ron.
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When did i say tru p would go away easily? I’m all
seriousness, you hear a lot of things which nobody says. Why do you constantly do that? it’s non stop.
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Damn Biden has screwed the entire world because as we all know he is responsible.

Biden to Erdogan: “You're doing a great job, I just want to thank you” for working to get grain out of Ukraine and for striking the deal to allow Finland and Sweden to join NATO
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Damn Biden has screwed the entire world because as we all know he is responsible.

What would you be saying if Trump was president right now? Be honest!

Sorry, I remember the ENTIRE left saying Bush caused the subprime mortgage crisis, because it happened on his watch, even though he did nothing to cause it. Every single democrats said he did it, and that helped Obama win.

If a president is responsible for all bad things that happen on his watch, then so be it. But it can't only apply to Republicans.

What would you be saying if Trump was president right now? Be honest!

Sorry, I remember the ENTIRE left saying Bush caused the subprime mortgage crisis, because it happened on his watch, even though he did nothing to cause it. Every single democrats said he did it, and that helped Obama win.

If a president is responsible for all bad things that happen on his watch, then so be it. But it can't only apply to Republicans.

I’ve already posted enough on this so you should know my answer, but if not scroll back, Trumps browmance buddy Putin has really screwed the global economy at a time we should have and needed a break. See I just saved you from scrolling back, to easy.

I’ve already posted enough on this so you should know my answer, but if not scroll back, Trumps browmance buddy Putin has really screwed the global economy at a time we should have and needed a break. See I just saved you from scrolling back, to easy.

(1) you didn’t comment on Bush and the subprime mortgage crisis, so you didn’t save me from scrolling back which i’m not doing anyway because i know what your position would have been.

(2) inflation was a problem before the war. America isn’t buying the “Putin price hike” garbage.

(3) i’m old enough to remember when Romney said russia was a threat, Obama mocked him, and everyone in the left almost fainted because it made them love obama so much. the left only cares about russia as a byproduct of their deranged obsession with trump.
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Explain why you place blame for the 48 migrants that just died on President Biden, but felt then-President Trump was blameless for the 2017 incident where 10 people died.
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Explain why you place blame for the 48 migrants that just died on President Biden, but felt then-President Trump was blameless for the 2017 incident where 10 people died.
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i’ll explain that, right after you can point to where I blamed Buden for it.
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i’ll explain that, right after you can point to where I blamed Buden for it.
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One of your MAGA heroes, Governor Abbot did
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One of your MAGA heroes, Governor Abbot did
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So I’m responsible for Greg Abbott?

Fine. I’ll explain what Abbott said, right after you explain Democrat Rep Hank Johnson expressing concern that the island of Guam might tip over if we build on it. Fair enough?

that’s your style. I’m responsible for everything that kooky conservatives do, but you’d never say you’re responsible for the stuff that kooky liberals do. Never.

Why is that?
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(1) you didn’t comment on Bush and the subprime mortgage crisis, so you didn’t save me from scrolling back which i’m not doing anyway because i know what your position would have been.

(2) inflation was a problem before the war. America isn’t buying the “Putin price hike” garbage.

(3) i’m old enough to remember when Romney said russia was a threat, Obama mocked him, and everyone in the left almost fainted because it made them love obama so much. the left only cares about russia as a byproduct of their deranged obsession with trump.
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You didn’t ask me about Bush, you asked if I’d blame Trump for the price of gas, which was I posted about. If you don’t think Putin’s war hasn’t been a major influence on gas, which in turn impacts the price of goods, I guess your grasp on things is a bit loose.

So I’m responsible for Greg Abbott?

Fine. I’ll explain what Abbott said, right after you explain Democrat Rep Hank Johnson expressing concern that the island of Guam might tip over if we build on it. Fair enough?

that’s your style. I’m responsible for everything that kooky conservatives do, but you’d never say you’re responsible for the stuff that kooky liberals do. Never.

Why is that?
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So far you’ve labeled at least Pence, Abbot and Jordan as kooky….
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You didn’t ask me about Bush, you asked if I’d blame Trump for the price of gas, which was I posted about. If you don’t think Putin’s war hasn’t been a major influence on gas, which in turn impacts the price of goods, I guess your grasp on things is a bit loose.

ok. and you would all be blaming trump. you guys are acting like gas and inflation weren’t a thing until putin invaded. it’s a flat out lie, and everyone knows it. why not blame sarah palin?

if bush owned the subprime mortgage crisis, then i’m sorry, biden owns this.

Russia made it worse, without question. But it was already bad. That might be a very inconvenient fact for you guys come november, but it’s still a fact. And putin had zilch to do with Afghanistan withdrawal, crime, the border is a mess, drug deaths are up, suicides are way up, etc…
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I know you love polls, almost 50% of Americans think Trump should be charged and you obviously feel that, plus the Supreme Court stripping women of control of their bodies won’t impact the mid terms. I don’t think the red wave you have been predicting is a given.

I know you love polls, almost 50% of Americans think Trump should be charged and you obviously feel that, plus the Supreme Court stripping women of control of their bodies won’t impact the mid terms. I don’t think the red wave you have been predicting is a given.

so a minority of americans think he should be charged, and you want me you believe that’s a huge help to the democrats in november?

If he broke the law, charge him. But this hearing is a joke, it’s not a fact finding team when every single person there hates Trump. Not when they rely on hearsay instead of asking secret service agents who were in the car. that’s called a smear campaign.

women have never had total
control of their bodies. They can’t use their bodies to harm anyone else, for example female teachers can’t get involved with make students. There are all kinds of laws that limit what women can do with their bodies.

If you believe women can do what they want with their own bodies, presumably you’re ok with abortion through the 9th month? after all, it’s her body.

i’m sure you don’t think it’s a given. Roe will help democrats, it has to, question is how much. We’ll see. I don’t hear anyone who’s more serious than Joy Behar say it’s not coming. But who knows.
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so a minority of americans think he should be charged, and you want me you believe that’s a huge help to the democrats in november?

If he broke the law, charge him. But this hearing is a joke, it’s not a fact finding team when every single person there hates Trump. Not when they rely on hearsay instead of asking secret service agents who were in the car. that’s called a smear campaign.

women have never had total
control of their bodies. They can’t use their bodies to harm anyone else, for example female teachers can’t get involved with make students. There are all kinds of laws that limit what women can do with their bodies.

If you believe women can do what they want with their own bodies, presumably you’re ok with abortion through the 9th month? after all, it’s her body.

i’m sure you don’t think it’s a given. Roe will help democrats, it has to, question is how much. We’ll see. I don’t hear anyone who’s more serious than Joy Behar say it’s not coming. But who knows.
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so a minority of americans think he should be charged,

Love to see that poll


Poll: Nearly 60% of Americans say Trump should be charged for Jan. 6


More than 60% of independents polled say that the former president should be charged.


Just proves you don’t pay attention
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so a minority of americans think he should be charged,

Love to see that poll


Poll: Nearly 60% of Americans say Trump should be charged for Jan. 6


More than 60% of independents polled say that the former president should be charged.


Just proves you don’t pay attention
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"so a minority of americans think he should be charged,

Love to see that poll "

Then ask Got Stripers, I was responding to his post when he said:

"almost 50% of Americans think Trump should be charged"

I suggest you ask him where he's getting his faulty data...

"Just proves you don’t pay attention can't read, you just always assume liberal=good and conservative=bad, regardless of what actually took place."

Fixed it for you.

The only one not paying attention is you apparently, because if you were watching all these republicans testify and now hear two very conservative lawyers (one defending Trump during the impeachment) say Trump likely will be charged, you couldn’t say this is just a smear campaign.

My statement was before the last hearing and it was 48%, after the latest……..In the poll, which was conducted by Ipsos in partnership with ABC News using Ipsos' KnowledgePanel, 58% of Americans think Trump should be charged with a crime for his role in the riot

The only one not paying attention is you apparently, because if you were watching all these republicans testify and now hear two very conservative lawyers (one defending Trump during the impeachment) say Trump likely will be charged, you couldn’t say this is just a smear campaign.

i’ve said 1000 times he may well have broken the law. that doesn’t mean this isn’t a smear campaign. Why haven’t the secret service agents testified about what happened in the car? is there a single person on the committee who doesn’t openly hate trump? the two republicans can’t stand him.

I am rooting for him to be sufficiently smeared by this that he can’t run again. Because democrats have shown they can defeat trump. i don’t think they have a prayer against Desantis. not a prayer.

the left has been out to get him
since he won. That doesn’t mean there aren’t legitimate crimes here. But the left has shown a willingness to fabricate charges against him
as well, like the russia hoax you were all obsessed with for two years and nothing was there.

i have no doubt Trump is dirty, and at the same time, the left is crazed with hate for him. Two things can be true at the same
time.
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i’ve said 1000 times he may well have broken the law. that doesn’t mean this isn’t a smear campaign. Why haven’t the secret service agents testified about what happened in the car? is there a single person on the committee who doesn’t openly hate trump? the two republicans can’t stand him.

I am rooting for him to be sufficiently smeared by this that he can’t run again. Because democrats have shown they can defeat trump. i don’t think they have a prayer against Desantis. not a prayer.

the left has been out to get him
since he won. That doesn’t mean there aren’t legitimate crimes here. But the left has shown a willingness to fabricate charges against him
as well, like the russia hoax you were all obsessed with for two years and nothing was there.

i have no doubt Trump is dirty, and at the same time, the left is crazed with hate for him. Two things can be true at the same
time.
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he may well have broken the law. that doesn’t mean this isn’t a smear campaign


What he did or didn’t do in the suv only shows his state of mind.. and he wanted to be with the mob at the capital

But keep ignoring his word his actions his lack of actions his supporters request for pardons the emails all those who who refused to testify or pleaded the 5th and keep convincing yourself it’s just a smear campaign. All those who did testify and were dismissed by the cult as Rinos or never trumpers

He was poison the minute he came down the escalator and every one knew it to include the GOP. But then then they put Trump before the nation seeing he was a useful idiot whom they lost control over who attacked American democracy with lies and a conspiracy to steal the election via Fraud he conveniently blamed others of doing. and that’s why we are we’re we are today.

You can’t smear a person by telling the Truth and presenting Facts

Only Trump loyalist think that’s a smear campaign
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i’ve said 1000 times he may well have broken the law. that doesn’t mean this isn’t a smear campaign. Why haven’t the secret service agents testified about what happened in the car? is there a single person on the committee who doesn’t openly hate trump? the two republicans can’t stand him.

I am rooting for him to be sufficiently smeared by this that he can’t run again. Because democrats have shown they can defeat trump. i don’t think they have a prayer against Desantis. not a prayer.

the left has been out to get him
since he won. That doesn’t mean there aren’t legitimate crimes here. But the left has shown a willingness to fabricate charges against him
as well, like the russia hoax you were all obsessed with for two years and nothing was there.

i have no doubt Trump is dirty, and at the same time, the left is crazed with hate for him. Two things can be true at the same
time.
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The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.
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The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie.
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if you cared about the truth at all, why not let secret service agents who were in the car, testify about what happened in the car? rather than relying on hearsay testimony? You brought up the truth, fine, please tell me why hearsay testimony from someone who wasn’t there, is more likely to
lead to the truth than testimony from people who were actually there?
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if you cared about the truth at all, why not let secret service agents who were in the car, testify about what happened in the car? rather than relying on hearsay testimony? You brought up the truth, fine, please tell me why hearsay testimony from someone who wasn’t there, is more likely to
lead to the truth than testimony from people who were actually there?
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You claim that they don’t have the opportunity to testify under oath?
Nobody understood that the Secret Service had been compromised by Donald Trump better than Mike Pence.
Two Secret Service sources confirm that Trump DID angrily "demand" to be taken to join his violent insurrectionist mob at the Capitol and "berated" his protective detail when they refused — confirming the bombshell testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson.
I would be glad to see them testify
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