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Jim in CT 07-08-2022, 04:18 PM Will anyone in the left apologize for the way these guys were smeared?
President Biden? Will he correct the record? he went on and i. about the racist injustice of whipping these poor folks.
Duke lacrosse case, officer wilson, the covington catholic kids, UVA rape case, Kyle Rittenhouse, and in, and on, and on.
It’s dangerous to be in a position where The Narrative will benefit from calling you a loathsome racist.
Paul is saying people move to FL because it’s essentially one big Klan rally.
When you know you can’t even pretend to say that your guy’’s results aren’t a disaster, you fall back in calling everyone a racist. For small-minded insecure people, that’s easier than just admitting your side blew it.
PaulS 07-08-2022, 04:45 PM Did I say that or was in jest. But I forgot I was dealing with angry Jim. I bet if I wanted I could keep you up until midnight tonight just by continuing to post but alas you remind me of the Doctor Who treated a friend's son many years ago. My friend's son asked the doctor a question and he ignored him and when my friend's wife asked him why he is not answering the 5-year-olds question he said because he'll just ask another one. When that happens with you and people just stop responding to you you claim they don't have an answer. In fact it's they get tired of dealing with angry Jim
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Jim in CT 07-08-2022, 04:57 PM Did I say that or was in jest. But I forgot I was dealing with angry Jim. I bet if I wanted I could keep you up until midnight tonight just by continuing to post but alas you remind me of the Doctor Who treated a friend's son many years ago. My friend's son asked the doctor a question and he ignored him and when my friend's wife asked him why he is not answering the 5-year-olds question he said because he'll just ask another one. When that happens with you and people just stop responding to you you claim they don't have an answer. In fact it's they get tired of dealing with angry Jim
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you’ve said it at least 5 times, i can’t read minds.
you’re calling everyone who disagrees with you a racist. but i’m
angry.
lobbing baseless insults is what weak people do who know they’re losing, Paul. Just sayin’. It’s all you’ve got right now.
you can stop responding any time. It’s a free country. Who’s stopping you?
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wdmso 07-09-2022, 08:06 AM Jim and fox left out this part
Of the
report released Friday , found the agents did not strike the migrants, but did use unnecessary force.
Their headline and all other right wing sites are selling more victim hood. Because they weren’t seen as hero’s
And upset they still may get discipline .
No accountability for Jan 6th ring leaders no accountability for refusing legal subpoenas no accountability for the officer who stood still as children were gunned down or an unarmed man gunned down shot 60 times..
The party of law and order focuses on Hunters Biden claiming all his wrong doing . While useing a lop top that’s been in multiple peoples hands with an agenda that’s not Truth .. this is what a witch hunt looks like .. all for the base not the For the benefit of the Republic
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Jim in CT 07-09-2022, 08:38 AM Jim and fox left out this part
Of the
report released Friday , found the agents did not strike the migrants, but did use unnecessary force.
Their headline and all other right wing sites are selling more victim hood. Because they weren’t seen as hero’s
And upset they still may get discipline .
No accountability for Jan 6th ring leaders no accountability for refusing legal subpoenas no accountability for the officer who stood still as children were gunned down or an unarmed man gunned down shot 60 times..
The party of law and order focuses on Hunters Biden claiming all his wrong doing . While useing a lop top that’s been in multiple peoples hands with an agenda that’s not Truth .. this is what a witch hunt looks like .. all for the base not the For the benefit of the Republic
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i post about cops. you go right to january 6. isn’t that what about-ism?
But it’s ok when YOU do it.
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wdmso 07-09-2022, 03:14 PM i post about cops. you go right to january 6. isn’t that what about-ism?
But it’s ok when YOU do it.
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Are you that simple? It was about accountability ..
Zsomething Republicans are afraid of if it involves those I groups I listed to include those involved in Jan 6th
Laws don’t apply to republicans but the sure demand they apply to everyone else
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Jim in CT 07-09-2022, 04:06 PM Are you that simple? It was about accountability ..
Zsomething Republicans are afraid of if it involves those I groups I listed to include those involved in Jan 6th
Laws don’t apply to republicans but the sure demand they apply to everyone else
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so whataboutism is ok when you do it.
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Pete F. 07-10-2022, 05:24 AM Will anyone in the left apologize for the way these guys were smeared?
President Biden? Will he correct the record? he went on and i. about the racist injustice of whipping these poor folks.
Duke lacrosse case, officer wilson, the covington catholic kids, UVA rape case, Kyle Rittenhouse, and in, and on, and on.
It’s dangerous to be in a position where The Narrative will benefit from calling you a loathsome racist.
Paul is saying people move to FL because it’s essentially one big Klan rally.
When you know you can’t even pretend to say that your guy’’s results aren’t a disaster, you fall back in calling everyone a racist. For small-minded insecure people, that’s easier than just admitting your side blew it.
An iron rule of the Trump era is that people who want to distract from what is indisputably true and damning like to focus on unimportant details or contrived disputes—they do it every single time
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wdmso 07-10-2022, 09:06 AM so whataboutism is ok when you do it.
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First Amendment advocates respond to a new Arizona law limiting recording of police
The law, which was signed on Wednesday by Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey, states that people can be charged with a misdemeanor if they record police from less than 8 feet away after getting a verbal warning, as they are conducting law enforcement activity like arrests, questioning suspicious individuals, and handling those who are emotionally disturbed.
another example of Republicans trying to hold others accountable while trying to shield what they see as their personal enforcement Units
yep more whataboutism
wdmso 07-10-2022, 10:25 AM Will anyone in the left apologize for the way these guys were smeared?
yep Jim keep thinking thats what happened..
not sure why you defend bad behaviour .. or push back against police accountability as they were smeared
Seems you a ken Paxton texas AG and avid law breaker are on the same page
it's really unfortunate that these border agents who've given their lives to securing our border and defending Americans [sic]," he added. "And here they are being punished; they should be rewarded."
no surprise seeing He thinks laws don't apply to him either
even the BBC headline
US border agents' horseback charge on Haiti migrants 'unnecessary'
In its findings released on Friday, CBP did not recommend any of its officers be fired but acknowledged "failures to make good decisions at multiple levels of the organisation".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62102019
its telling you haven't started a thread on the Cops shooting an unarmed black man in Ohio 60 times , let me guess you think they to are victims of a Bias media and cop haters
Jim in CT 07-10-2022, 04:02 PM Will anyone in the left apologize for the way these guys were smeared?
yep Jim keep thinking thats what happened..
not sure why you defend bad behaviour .. or push back against police accountability as they were smeared
Seems you a ken Paxton texas AG and avid law breaker are on the same page
it's really unfortunate that these border agents who've given their lives to securing our border and defending Americans [sic]," he added. "And here they are being punished; they should be rewarded."
no surprise seeing He thinks laws don't apply to him either
even the BBC headline
US border agents' horseback charge on Haiti migrants 'unnecessary'
In its findings released on Friday, CBP did not recommend any of its officers be fired but acknowledged "failures to make good decisions at multiple levels of the organisation".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62102019
its telling you haven't started a thread on the Cops shooting an unarmed black man in Ohio 60 times , let me guess you think they to are victims of a Bias media and cop haters
wayne, has a powerful, prominent democrat ever done anything immoral?
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wdmso 07-10-2022, 05:10 PM wayne, has a powerful, prominent democrat ever done anything immoral?
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Stay on topic
And get back to me when you find a current democrat AG under several active criminal indictments Who was re elected by a base who ignore such things ..
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Pete F. 07-10-2022, 08:48 PM Jim has a prominent Trumplican ever been driven by moral imperatives to do anything positive for the American people?
Or do they just adopt victomhood because they have no rational alternative?
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Jim in CT 07-11-2022, 06:49 AM Stay on topic
And get back to me when you find a current democrat AG under several active criminal indictments Who was re elected by a base who ignore such things ..
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“stay on topic”
from the guy who’s response to everything, is but trump!
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wdmso 07-11-2022, 09:44 AM “stay on topic”
from the guy who’s response to everything, is but trump!
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Odd how your fascination with with wrong doing and outrage over the most simplistic topics . Never involve the actual real threats to our nation . From those you support and would vote for again . No matter the evidence of their lies and deceit .
Gas prices are down like 25 cents good job numbers and the GOP is stuck on Hunters laptop and brown people invasion. When there’s been no change of border policy since the election..
Current restrictions at the U.S. border have not changed: single adults and families encountered at the Southwest Border will continue to be expelled, where appropriate, under Title 42,” said CBP Commissioner Chris Magnus. “As temperatures start to rise in the summer, human smugglers will continue to exploit vulnerable populations and recklessly endanger the lives of migrants for financial gain.
June 6th 2022
But to the gullible faithful it’s all a lie by the media and the government
That’s the response to everything factual
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Jim in CT 07-11-2022, 10:40 AM Odd how your fascination with with wrong doing and outrage over the most simplistic topics . Never involve the actual real threats to our nation . From those you support and would vote for again . No matter the evidence of their lies and deceit .
Gas prices are down like 25 cents good job numbers and the GOP is stuck on Hunters laptop and brown people invasion. When there’s been no change of border policy since the election..
Current restrictions at the U.S. border have not changed: single adults and families encountered at the Southwest Border will continue to be expelled, where appropriate, under Title 42,” said CBP Commissioner Chris Magnus. “As temperatures start to rise in the summer, human smugglers will continue to exploit vulnerable populations and recklessly endanger the lives of migrants for financial gain.
June 6th 2022
But to the gullible faithful it’s all a lie by the media and the government
That’s the response to everything factual
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so going in national tv and saying that cops were whipping black people when they didnt, and not apologizing, is no biggie.
you don’t think this is a reason why there’s so much violence against cops?
fortunately it doesn’t matter what you think. it matters what america thinks, and they’ll make their voices heard in a few months. i like my sides chances. how about you?
your whole party and the entire media, is demonizing cops, who then have a target on their backs.
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Pete F. 07-11-2022, 11:03 AM "Why do Republicans hate police officers?" he asked. "Why won't Republicans stand up for police officers and stand up for cops when they're getting the hell beaten out of them? In Congress, they love yapping about how they support the blue when they go on the House floor, but when police officers are getting eviscerated, getting brutalized, when they're getting beaten to death, suddenly, they love the rioters, they love the thugs, they love the people that are beating them up and beating them to death."
"These Republicans who are calling these people tourists, these Republicans that don't want to get to the truth," he continued. "They don't want to really understand why police officers were brutalized that day, the same liars who said that they love cops, they're the ones that are stopping everybody who is responsible for the beating of and the eventual death of these police officers."
"They're stopping justice from happening," he added. "So they don't love cops. -- they hate cops if cops are actually doing their job and trying to stop their party from not being able to steal an election."
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Pete F. 07-11-2022, 11:18 AM Albuquerque SWAT team raids house looking for an alleged robbery suspect. Using nuisance Flashbangs to get the suspect out ignited and engulfed the home in flames. After the fire, police find the body of a 14-year-old boy. He was not the suspect.
The police attacked the wrong house, flash-banged it, burned it up, stopped firefighters from putting out fire, then found out they burned alive a 14 year old child who was in home.
But if you criticize them for this, then you're personally responsible for any subsequent increase in crime anywhere in America, because how can cops possibly be expected to do their jobs if any of them are criticized, ever?
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The Dad Fisherman 07-11-2022, 11:43 AM Yeah, except it was the right house and they caught the suspect fleeing out the back while fire fighters were extinguishing the fire.
https://www.kob.com/new-mexico/apd-one-dead-one-detained-following-overnight-swat-operation/
“The suspect reportedly exited the home as Albuquerque Fire Rescue was extinguishing the fire. He was taken into custody and then transported to a local hospital for burn injuries.”
Little details that completely change the narrative, not a surprise
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Jim in CT 07-11-2022, 12:06 PM Albuquerque SWAT team raids house looking for an alleged robbery suspect. Using nuisance Flashbangs to get the suspect out ignited and engulfed the home in flames. After the fire, police find the body of a 14-year-old boy. He was not the suspect.
The police attacked the wrong house, flash-banged it, burned it up, stopped firefighters from putting out fire, then found out they burned alive a 14 year old child who was in home.
But if you criticize them for this, then you're personally responsible for any subsequent increase in crime anywhere in America, because how can cops possibly be expected to do their jobs if any of them are criticized, ever?
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you’re hearing voices, cuckoo. i didn’t say cops are above question. but after all. the times your side has jumped to conclusions and humiliated themselves ( duke lacrosse, nick sandman, ,officer darren wilson) why not wait until the facts are in before saying cops are racist killers?
shouldn’t we be sure we have the story straight, before we ruin someone’s life? is that too much to ask?
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PaulS 07-11-2022, 12:14 PM you’re hearing voices, cuckoo. i didn’t say cops are above question. but after all. the times your side has jumped to conclusions and humiliated themselves ( duke lacrosse, nick sandman, ,officer darren wilson) why not wait until the facts are in before saying cops are racist killers?
shouldn’t we be sure we have the story straight, before we ruin someone’s life? is that too much to ask?
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How about every person who has been convicted bc a prosecuter or police lied or withheld evidence and now many years later are being let go bc of DNA. Are those most liberal also?
Pete F. 07-11-2022, 12:19 PM Yeah, except it was the right house and they caught the suspect fleeing out the back while fire fighters were extinguishing the fire.
https://www.kob.com/new-mexico/apd-one-dead-one-detained-following-overnight-swat-operation/
“The suspect reportedly exited the home as Albuquerque Fire Rescue was extinguishing the fire. He was taken into custody and then transported to a local hospital for burn injuries.”
Little details that completely change the narrative, not a surprise
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You can’t always trust the little details released by police
Meanwhile, the family that lived in the house is now homeless – and says they were innocent victims in all of this.
KOB 4 spoke with a woman whose sister and her family lived there. She said the people involved in the SWAT standoff weren’t related to her family and did not live there, but were acquaintances of her nephew who stopped by to pick up a bike. Now, she’s questioning how police and the SWAT team handled the situation.
The family is also blaming police for starting the fire, claiming flash bang grenades ignited it.
Police confirmed that multiple “munitions” were used at the scene – they’re used in SWAT situations to get suspects to surrender. They are working with AFR to determine if one caused the fire.
And after the police initially claimed the target of the raid was wanted for robbery and other violent crimes, it turns out the warrants were for a probation violation.
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Pete F. 07-11-2022, 12:26 PM you’re hearing voices, cuckoo. i didn’t say cops are above question. but after all. the times your side has jumped to conclusions and humiliated themselves ( duke lacrosse, nick sandman, ,officer darren wilson) why not wait until the facts are in before saying cops are racist killers?
shouldn’t we be sure we have the story straight, before we ruin someone’s life? is that too much to ask?
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A SWAT team is by function a killer team, so why do PD’s keep using them in non lethal situations? Once again, no deescalation, just the opposite, resulting in a dead kid, homeless family and a lawsuit the city will lose costing taxpayers millions.
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wdmso 07-11-2022, 04:13 PM so going in national tv and saying that cops were whipping black people when they didnt, and not apologizing, is no biggie. they used excessive force Jim with their horses so because they didn't hit them with the reins its ok got it
you don’t think this is a reason why there’s so much violence against cops?
Shocking another conservative Lie .. Policing is a dangerous job during al capone days and still is in 2022 but of course criticisms are seen as violence
fortunately it doesn’t matter what you think. it matters what america thinks, and they’ll make their voices heard in a few months. i like my sides chances. how about you? still living the fantasy that somehow these mind terms are different than what happens historically... and will it be fraud if your big red wave never materializes
your whole party and the entire media, is demonizing cops, who then have a target on their backs. more radicalized nonsense from the party wishing to use the police against their political enemies and the public
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many conservative commentators and organizations have pushed a pro-police, law-and-order narrative. Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) declared, “The president should use the Insurrection Act to deploy active-duty military forces to these cities to support local law enforcement many of them reflexively defend the police, and see them as the armed servants of the state?
Militarization of the police goes back to the Reagan-era war on drugs when one program informally began giving surplus military equipment from the Pentagon to police departments across the U.S. The initiative, known as the 1033 program, was formally implemented when Congress passed a law in the 1990s.
Post 9/11, the Department of Homeland Security enabled anti-terror grants that police departments across the U.S. could tap into to purchase new military-grade equipment such as armored trucks, ballistics gear and armored personnel carriers. These grants provide even more than the Pentagon surplus program
Departments that received military gear were supposed to use it to prevent terror attacks, but instead, Balko says officers often ended up using the equipment for everyday policing duties. When police officers dress, train or are armed like a military soldier, he says some officers will start to see themselves as such.
and we see this daily in America
yet House Republicans began Tuesday morning by calling the upcoming inaugural hearing of the chamber’s investigation into the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol a “sham” and a “political charade
this was their response to police testimony
House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said he was “booked in all these different meetings.”
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) told reporters he was tied up with a committee hearing.
Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), who rose to her position after her predecessor was sacked for criticizing Trump’s role in the attack, declined to say whether she watched.
Rep. Matthew M. Rosendale (R-Mont.) said he did watch — but only the opening statement from Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) “I was quite disappointed,” he told ABC News.
they only want to support police when it suits them classic
wdmso 07-11-2022, 04:17 PM still waiting on our resident Cop can do no wrong Fans. have to say about shooting an unarmed man 60 times while he ran away from them
Jim in CT 07-11-2022, 05:21 PM still waiting on our resident Cop can do no wrong Fans. have to say about shooting an unarmed man 60 times while he ran away from them
i say that’s murder.
duh.
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Pete F. 07-11-2022, 10:42 PM Will anyone in the left apologize for the way these guys were smeared?
President Biden? Will he correct the record? he went on and i. about the racist injustice of whipping these poor folks.
Duke lacrosse case, officer wilson, the covington catholic kids, UVA rape case, Kyle Rittenhouse, and in, and on, and on.
It’s dangerous to be in a position where The Narrative will benefit from calling you a loathsome racist.
Paul is saying people move to FL because it’s essentially one big Klan rally.
When you know you can’t even pretend to say that your guy’’s results aren’t a disaster, you fall back in calling everyone a racist. For small-minded insecure people, that’s easier than just admitting your side blew it.
Horse Patrol investigation that was released. The thing that causes doubt is that the head of CBP, thinks a transparent & independent investigation includes not interviewing 1 single victim & redacting even the investigators’ names. How many are ex-BP?
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Jim in CT 07-11-2022, 10:47 PM wdmso, what do you say about how the left handled the duke lacrosse case, nick sandman, officer darren wilson, kyle rittenhouse?? any comment?
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Pete F. 07-12-2022, 05:09 AM Didn’t they all become Faux Patriots and keynote speakers at CPAC?
Meanwhile you attempt to falsely paint all protesters as criminals, all Democrats as far left and teachers as groomers.
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Jim in CT 07-12-2022, 07:15 AM Meanwhile you attempt to falsely paint all protesters as criminals, all Democrats as far left and teachers as groomers.
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when did i do any of that?
that tin foil hat gets tighter and tighter.
I taught public school. i know many many great teachers.
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scottw 07-12-2022, 08:17 AM when did i do any of that?
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you didn't....but pete routinely paints with a very broad brush
wdmso 07-12-2022, 08:49 AM wdmso, what do you say about how the left handled the duke lacrosse case, nick sandman, officer darren wilson, kyle rittenhouse?? any comment?
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Jim you use examples that are years apart and fit your nonsense of that the media is bias . Mantra
The duke team was exonerated and the DA was punished for misconduct and debarred 2006
Nick incident 2019 settled a law suit And had his day in court
Wilson was never charged and hid behind qualified immunity
And Rittenhouse please! the rights boy hero. And now BPA who used excessive force
OJ was found not guilty by a jury don’t see you using him in your list of white people victims greatest hits .
You forgot Derek Chauvin, and his 22 years sentence..
But conservatives who champion those on your list have this to say
Floyd got EXACTLY the justice he deserved! Thank you for your service Officer Chauvin!
Criminal George Floyd committed suicide with drug overdose and that is a fact. His Black victims are glad he's gone.
At least you see 60 shots for what it is..
However the core of your party see it differently
Get out of the car with your hands in the air! On another note, the magazine changes done by the officers went flawless.
Cops understand what these people are like...
And my favorite
Where are the riots? Oh , thats right, you only care about dead black men when there's a presidential election to steal.
Yep from the mouths of the current GOP faithful
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Pete F. 07-13-2022, 03:10 PM wdmso, what do you say about how the left handled the duke lacrosse case, nick sandman, officer darren wilson, kyle rittenhouse?? any comment?
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Congratulations to every Republican and pundit who called a 10 year old rape victim a liar.
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Pete F. 07-14-2022, 06:30 AM She is 10-years old. She was raped, impregnated, refused an abortion in Ohio after Roe was overturned. Her story was reported, GOP leaders called it a hoax. The story has been confirmed. Will we see at least one apology? One display of decency, civility, anything?
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scottw 07-14-2022, 09:07 AM She is 10-years old. She was raped, impregnated, refused an abortion in Ohio after Roe was overturned. Her story was reported, GOP leaders called it a hoax. The story has been confirmed. Will we see at least one apology? One display of decency, civility, anything?
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the people that should apologize are the doctor who violated HIPAA laws and the people who used the tragic story to further their political agenda(that would include you pete)...and the rapist should be shot but will probably just get deported
Pete F. 07-14-2022, 12:02 PM the people that should apologize are the doctor who violated HIPAA laws and the people who used the tragic story to further their political agenda(that would include you pete)...and the rapist should be shot but will probably just get deported
There’s nothing wrong if everyone ignores it, is the solution?
Re: The OH case. How will mandatory reporting laws work in states with abortion bans w/ no rape exception? Seems there’s real risk that reporting rape of a minor may trigger criminal investigations or monitoring of reporter/minor’s family to stop/punish out of state travel.
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wdmso 07-14-2022, 03:45 PM the people that should apologize are the doctor who violated HIPAA laws and the people who used the tragic story to further their political agenda(that would include you pete)...and the rapist should be shot but will probably just get deported
Should the following apologize for doing what they do constantly to their viewers. LIE
Fox’s most high-profile hosts — Tucker Carlson, Jesse Watters, Laura Ingraham — suggested this week that the account of the 10-year-old rape victim was a “hoax” and “politically timed disinformation,” and claimed that the Biden administration was “lying” about the case after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.
Republican AG says he'll investigate Indiana doctor who provided care to 10-year-old rape victim
GOP Rep. Jim Jordan deletes tweet calling the story of a 10-year-old girl being raped 'another lie'
And HIPAA will not protect people from Republicans trying to charge them for getting abortions out of state or taking the morning after pill
federal laws will shield their reproductive health data from state law enforcement, or legal action more broadly. The answer, currently, is no.
If there’s a warrant, court order, or subpoena for the release of those medical records, then a clinic could be required to hand them over.
Republicans marching America backwards in time . Meanwhile Abortion laws in Colombia are now among the most liberal in the Americas. LOL
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scottw 07-14-2022, 04:11 PM try being a little bit honest....
the story was run with no corroboration and parroted by the likes of pete and the leftist and the muppet posing as president to claim that pregnant 10 year olds were now no longer able to get abortions thanks to the Supreme Court...
the timing and the release of the info by the doctor was purely political with little regard for the little girl....which is shameful
the Ohio AG has said she would have fallen under his state's exceptions and could get an abortion which means she wasn't forced to travel to Indiana..."Attorney General Dave Yost said Monday night that Ohio law would have allowed the girl to have an abortion in the state."
the Indiana AG is investigating the doctor because it doesn't appear she reported the rape as she is required to...
the Ohio doctor is being referred by her clinic for violation of HIPAA laws.....“A source familiar to the situation” said Indiana abortionist Bernard’s employer “has filed a HIPAA violation against her for sharing details about the young patient,”
Imagine thinking that not killing babies is "marching America backwards in time"...
"Bernard has even sued to block an Indiana law prohibiting dismemberment abortions."
wdmso 07-14-2022, 07:17 PM try being a little bit honest....
the story was run with no corroboration and parroted by the likes of pete and the leftist and the muppet posing as president to claim that pregnant 10 year olds were now no longer able to get abortions thanks to the Supreme Court...
the timing and the release of the info by the doctor was purely political with little regard for the little girl....which is shameful
the Ohio AG has said she would have fallen under his state's exceptions and could get an abortion which means she wasn't forced to travel to Indiana..."Attorney General Dave Yost said Monday night that Ohio law would have allowed the girl to have an abortion in the state."
the Indiana AG is investigating the doctor because it doesn't appear she reported the rape as she is required to...
the Ohio doctor is being referred by her clinic for violation of HIPAA laws.....“A source familiar to the situation” said Indiana abortionist Bernard’s employer “has filed a HIPAA violation against her for sharing details about the young patient,”
Imagine thinking that not killing babies is "marching America backwards in time"...
"Bernard has even sued to block an Indiana law prohibiting dismemberment abortions."
This photo sums up republicans faux outrage about killing babies
Ps Jesse waters never admitted he was wrong he went were right were you went Scott his immigration status..or like you he deflected about hipaa laws! As if the right cares about privacy! he went just were his viewership loves to go.. as if an American could be a child rapist … But an illegal now your talking
Jim in CT 07-14-2022, 08:16 PM This photo sums up republicans faux outrage about killing babies
Ps Jesse waters never admitted he was wrong he went were right were you went Scott his immigration status..or like you he deflected about hipaa laws! As if the right cares about privacy! he went just were his viewership loves to go.. as if an American could be a child rapist … But an illegal now your talking
the photo doesn’t do that.
would you rather be in foster care, or slaughtered in the womb?
simple question.
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Pete F. 07-15-2022, 06:00 AM Jim
What penalty do you want for abortion?
Simple question
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wdmso 07-15-2022, 06:48 AM National Right to Life official: 10-year-old should have had baby
She would have had the baby, and as many women who have had babies as a result of rape, we would hope that she would understand the reason and ultimately the benefit of having the child,” Bopp said
Wake people I only see one side using using her rape to forward their agenda ! The other side told you this would happen and sadly they were correct
Tyranny of the Minority
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wdmso 07-15-2022, 06:56 AM the photo doesn’t do that.
would you rather be in foster care, or slaughtered in the womb?
simple question.
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Jim unlike you I live in what’s called reality. And understand a fetus is not self aware with the ability to choose either or !
Next it will be a crime to make knuckle babies in the shower . Suggesting they should have a choice
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wdmso 07-15-2022, 07:25 AM Doctor told the state she performed abortion on 10-year-old girl, document shows
The release of the document comes after Indiana's attorney general said he would investigate the physician, claiming without providing evidence that she has a history of failing to report abortions as required under Indiana law.
With out evidence we see that a lot from Republicans and conservatives accuser’s
Seems Republicans AG have problems with the Truth and who seem to want to use the office against people they don’t agree with!
Wasn’t aware that was the Job of a State AG
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wdmso 07-15-2022, 07:33 AM Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) Thursday refused to apologize for a tweet he deleted that branded as “another lie” the story about a 10-year-old Ohio girl who had to travel out of state to get an abortion after being raped.
He excuse. I was commenting on a news story,” We never questioned the child,” Jordan said.
What happened was we found out ...this heinous crime (did happen),” Jordan said. “So we deleted the tweet.”
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wdmso 07-15-2022, 10:10 AM from the Texas Freedom Caucus
A law firm in Texas pledged to reimburse the travel costs of employees who leave Texas to murder their unborn children. We are putting them and others on notice of the illegality and consequences of their actions
More examples Of how the Texas only respect the freedoms they agree with
scottw 07-15-2022, 01:11 PM Jim unlike you I live in what’s called reality.
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this is one of the funniest things ever written here....
PaulS 07-15-2022, 02:10 PM Will anyone in the left apologize for the way these guys were smeared?
President Biden? Will he correct the record? he went on and i. about the racist injustice of whipping these poor folks.
Duke lacrosse case, officer wilson, the covington catholic kids, UVA rape case, Kyle Rittenhouse, and in, and on, and on.
Did you see the Indiana AG vowed to investigate the Ind. Dr. suggesting the doctor may have even engaged in criminal misconduct?
Turns out the Dr. filed a terminated pregnancy report and filed the report within the required timeframe. This was determined through a routine public records request — a step the Indiana attorney general’s office could’ve taken before he started accusing the doctor of wrongdoing. I wonder if he'll apologize for smearing the Dr or does he not have to bc he is on the right?
The Dad Fisherman 07-15-2022, 05:12 PM this is one of the funniest things ever written here....
He’s a regular Walter Mitty
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scottw 07-15-2022, 07:13 PM I wonder if he'll apologize for smearing the Dr or does he not have to bc he is on the right?
smearing the doctor? that's funny
creating a story during the confirmation process that a Supreme Court nominee ran rape trains is smearing someone....
saying that your office will make sure all of the reporting, paperwork, HIPAA was done properly regarding a 10 year old transported across state lines for an abortion in what is now national news thanks to a couple of political activists is ....doing your job....
you can see the difference...right?
Pete F. 07-15-2022, 10:05 PM Are parents now going to need identity cards and negative pregnancy tests to cross state lines?
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wdmso 07-16-2022, 07:56 AM smearing the doctor? that's funny
creating a story during the confirmation process that a Supreme Court nominee ran rape trains is smearing someone....
saying that your office will make sure all of the reporting, paperwork, HIPAA was done properly regarding a 10 year old transported across state lines for an abortion in what is now national news thanks to a couple of political activists is ....doing your job....
you can see the difference...right?
Ya Scott that’s all he was saying,and doing he was searching for the truth ..
seems your version of reality is also questionable
Try looking up what HIPAA actually means
Ps the doctor stating they preformed an abortion on a 10 year old is not a HIPAA violation
But criminal charges against people who travel outside of their state ! Is actually the real threat to privacy and HIPPA ..
But keep deflecting Your good at it
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Pete F. 07-16-2022, 04:07 PM smearing the doctor? that's funny
creating a story during the confirmation process that a Supreme Court nominee ran rape trains is smearing someone....
saying that your office will make sure all of the reporting, paperwork, HIPAA was done properly regarding a 10 year old transported across state lines for an abortion in what is now national news thanks to a couple of political activists is ....doing your job....
you can see the difference...right?
You’re wrong
1. “The people telling you the 10-year-old could get an abortion in Ohio are ignorant or lying,” White wrote, noting Ohio allowed no exceptions for rape, incest, or age of the mother. Doctors might conclude a pregnant girl so young met the statute’s exceptions for risk to the mother’s life or “serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function,” but, he argued, it was far from clear legally, and a lawyer would be a “fool” to advise a doctor to go forward and risk the loss of their license, lawsuits, and prison.
2. “If so-called doctors are covering up child rape, they need to be prosecuted,” Watters declared, as Bernard’s photo was displayed with the label, “FAILURE TO REPORT?”
“So, is a criminal charge next and will Dr. Bernard lose her license?” he eagerly asked Rokita.
Rokita assured Watters that his office did indeed plan to burn the witch.
“We’re gathering the information, we’re gathering the evidence as we speak and we’re going to fight this to the end — including looking at her licensure, if she failed to report” the child’s abuse, the attorney general vowed. “I’m not letting it go.”
“DOC FAILED TO REPORT ABORTION OF ABUSE VICTIM,” the Fox News chyron declared Bernard guilty while her picture split the screen with Rokita.
Rokita made good on his pledge Thursday, issuing a statement declaring his office’s investigation into Bernard with potential criminal prosecution, action against her medical license, and a HIPAA violation.
The Washington Post’s Radley Balko, who frequently covers criminal justice issues, tweeted that Fox News was “either actively trying to get [Bernard] killed, or just don’t give a damn that they’re putting her in danger.”
3. Ryan Mears, the chief prosecutor for Marion County, Indiana, was highly critical of Rokita investigating Bernard when it was known that the rape had already been reported in Ohio, telling Sarnoff that the state law requires abuse to be reported, but “does not particularly state that Indiana law enforcement has to be notified.”
“It’s unfortunate that a doctor who provides legal medical treatment to a victim who needs help is now subject to this level of intimidation,” he added, which “erodes trust and the public’s confidence in institutions.”
4. Bernard did make a timely report.
On Thursday, various Indiana media outlets began posting documents they had obtained in response to public records requests, showing Barnard had filed her report on July 2, two days after the girl’s June 30 abortion (Indiana law required her to report by July 3).
Watters has yet to acknowledge that the witch hunt announced and promoted on his show was a sham.
“Bernard did no more than identify the girl’s age,” wrote Sarnoff, not her name, exact birthdate, physical description, address, date of treatment, or other identifying detail. “t would be nearly impossible to identify a patient by their age alone…the sharing of an anonymized vignette about a patient’s medical treatments generally does not offend HIPAA.”
There are still unanswered questions about this case, but the witch hunts did nothing to spare the girl further suffering, nor did they alter the reality that we cannot morally or ethically demand that a 10-year-old give birth.
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scottw 07-16-2022, 07:29 PM There are still unanswered questions about this case
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yes, it is very sad that a doctor made this public for political reasons....
wdmso 07-17-2022, 10:43 AM Ted Cruz, R-Texas, says he believes the Supreme Court was "clearly wrong" when it decided in a 2015 ruling that same-sex marriage was legal under the Constitution.
Surprise surprise who didn’t see this coming,
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scottw 07-17-2022, 11:13 AM .
The Washington Post’s Radley Balko, who frequently covers criminal justice issues, tweeted that Fox News was “either actively trying to get [Bernard] killed, or just don’t give a damn that they’re putting her in danger.”
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ummmm.....Lizzy Warren is calling for all of the abortion crisis centers in the country to be shut down for torturing pregnant women,,,,,and she sounded pretty angry so she's probably advocating violence.....well...more violence than they are already experiencing
Pete F. 07-17-2022, 11:56 AM yes, it is very sad that a doctor made this public for political reasons....
When Republicans are trying to block interstate travel for women and girls seeking reproductive healthcare, you need to believe they want a police state version of Handmaid’s Tale and vote blue.
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Pete F. 07-17-2022, 12:01 PM ummmm.....Lizzy Warren is calling for all of the abortion crisis centers in the country to be shut down for torturing pregnant women,,,,,and she sounded pretty angry so she's probably advocating violence.....well...more violence than they are already experiencing
Here is a brief look at the history of deadly violence against abortion clinics, their staff members, patients and their guests in the United States and Canada.
The First Abortion Doctor Killed: David Gunn
Dr. David Gunn was shot and killed by an opponent of abortion during a protest outside his clinic in Pensacola, Fla. His death was the first known killing of an abortion provider in the United States, according to the National Abortion Federation, an advocacy group.
The gunman, Michael F. Griffin, shot Dr. Gunn three times in the back as he approached the rear entrance of the clinic, and Mr. Griffin turned himself over to the police just moments later, telling them, “I’ve just shot Dr. Gunn.”
Mr. Griffin was convicted of the murder in March 1994 and was sentenced to life in prison.
The murder of Dr. Gunn was not the first time that Pensacola had been the site of anti-abortion violence, and it would not be the last. On Christmas Day in 1984, two doctors’ offices and a clinic were bombed by opponents of abortion who were later arrested, convicted and jailed.
I can go on for years about the domestic terrorism conducted against womens healthcare providers
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scottw 07-17-2022, 12:22 PM I can go on for years ....
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I'm sure you will...
Pete F. 07-17-2022, 01:11 PM I'm sure you will...
The anti abortion killers did
George Tiller, Twice a Target, Is Killed in 2009
Dr. George Tiller, one of the few doctors in the United States who provided abortions late in pregnancy, was a frequent target of anti-abortion violence and was killed in 2009 by Scott Roeder as he stood in the foyer of his church.
A witness who was serving as an usher alongside Dr. Tiller at the church that day told the court that Mr. Roeder entered the foyer, put a gun to the doctor’s head and pulled the trigger.
At trial, Mr. Roeder admitted to killing Dr. Tiller and said he did it to protect unborn babies. He was convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison. At his sentencing, he told the court that God’s judgment would ”sweep over this land like a prairie wind.”
Dr. Tiller was shot once before, in 1993, by Shelley Shannon, an anti-abortion activist who compared abortion providers to Hitler and said she believed that “justifiable force” was necessary to stop abortions.
Ms. Shannon was sentenced to 10 years in prison for the shooting of Dr. Tiller and later confessed to vandalizing and burning a string of abortion clinics in California, Nevada and Oregon.
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wdmso 07-17-2022, 04:37 PM ummmm.....Lizzy Warren is calling for all of the abortion crisis centers in the country to be shut down for torturing pregnant women,,,,,and she sounded pretty angry so she's probably advocating violence.....well...more violence than they are already experiencing
And of course you left this critical part of the story
U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren is calling for the state and federal government to crack down on “crisis pregnancy centers,” which she says pretend to offer legitimate abortion services, but instead gather personal information and then harass pregnant women seeking the procedure.
And of course if a women gets angry she’s out of control
she sounded pretty angry so she's probably advocating violence
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scottw 07-17-2022, 05:54 PM which she says pretend to offer legitimate abortion services, but instead gather personal information and then harass pregnant women seeking the procedure.
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must be hard to stay in business with that business model, I'm surprised there are any....and...we know Lizzy likes to make stuff up and spin tales...and is often angry and indignant
Pete F. 07-17-2022, 08:03 PM She can be
Asked whether a 12-year-old child molested by a family member should carry a pregnancy to term, Mississippi Speaker Philip Gunn replied, “That is my personal belief.”
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scottw 07-18-2022, 04:59 AM I can't keep track of all of the state laws, is it true that in Mississippi you can still get an abortion through nearly the first 4 months of pregnancy(15 weeks)?
wdmso 07-18-2022, 07:34 AM must be hard to stay in business with that business model, I'm surprised there are any....and...we know Lizzy likes to make stuff up and spin tales...and is often angry and indignant
Of course you heard She wanted to close all crisis centers… seems you and Fox. Ran this story minus the details was for as you say “made this public for political reasons...”.
It’s funny you call out warren for making things up, and the Jan 6th committee are of course are also making things up, but you seem to skip over what conservatives make up
See a pattern ?
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The Dad Fisherman 07-18-2022, 07:50 AM See a pattern ?
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Yes, it always comes back to Jan. 6th and Trump.......ALWAYS :rolleyes:
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scottw 07-18-2022, 07:51 AM Of course you heard She wanted to close all crisis centers… seems you and Fox. Ran this story minus the details was for as you say “made this public for political reasons...”.
It’s funny you call out warren for making things up, and the Jan 6th committee are of course are also making things up, but you seem to skip over what conservatives make up
See a pattern ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPNmD0fGa9U
she's upset that they out number the serious abortion centers in Mass 3 to 1...."shut them down in Massachusetts and shut them down all across the country"
listening to her is torture....:laughs:
scottw 07-18-2022, 07:52 AM “made this public for political reasons...”.
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she's speaking in front of a bunch of microphones...I believe that is public
scottw 07-18-2022, 07:53 AM Yes, it always comes back to Jan. 6th and Trump.......ALWAYS :rolleyes:
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cult-like....:btu:
The Dad Fisherman 07-18-2022, 08:53 AM listening to her is torture....:laughs:
Still, she persisted.....
Kinda wish she'd stop persisting
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Pete F. 07-18-2022, 09:04 AM Still, she persisted.....
Kinda wish she'd stop persisting
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Well, she is an elected official.
And apparently the majority of her constituents disagree with you.
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scottw 07-18-2022, 09:27 AM Well, she is an elected official.
And apparently the majority of her constituents disagree with you.
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she can try to shut down all of these rogue clinics in Mass that somehow outnumber her favored legitimate clinics 3 to 1 and apparently continue operating unregulated and in violation of the Geneva Convention if she wants to try and her constituents agree......when it comes to other states she should stfu...nobody there(other states) elected her to anything
The Dad Fisherman 07-18-2022, 09:32 AM Well, she is an elected official.
And apparently the majority of her constituents disagree with you.
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And still…..you persisted
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Pete F. 07-18-2022, 09:38 AM she can try to shut down all of these rogue clinics in Mass that somehow outnumber her favored legitimate clinics 3 to 1 and apparently continue operating unregulated and in violation of the Geneva Convention if she wants to try and her constituents agree......when it comes to other states she should stfu...nobody there(other states) elected her to anything
And did they ask you?
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wdmso 07-18-2022, 03:39 PM Yes, it always comes back to Jan. 6th and Trump.......ALWAYS :rolleyes:
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Keep rolling those eyes still upset he didn’t succeed in his coup ..
But But Warrens voice and OMG someone trying to protect women from fraud For you and Scott Shea the real danger to America …
But of course I am imagining things again
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The Dad Fisherman 07-18-2022, 03:43 PM You’re an idiot
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wdmso 07-19-2022, 07:20 AM You’re an idiot
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Is that a denial ? Our one your usual substantive responses
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scottw 07-19-2022, 08:20 AM Our one your usual substantive responses
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never fails....:rotf2:
The Dad Fisherman 07-19-2022, 08:35 AM Is that a denial ? Our one your usual substantive responses
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Just stating a fact :rolleyes:
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Pete F. 07-19-2022, 11:09 AM I see the retarded faction of imbeciles and morons is now feeling superior by calling others idiots.
Impressive
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scottw 07-19-2022, 11:21 AM I see the retarded faction of imbeciles and morons is now feeling superior by calling others idiots.
Impressive
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Impressive
Pete F. 07-19-2022, 11:45 AM Impressive
Ya know, I could easily Trump that😀
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The Dad Fisherman 07-19-2022, 11:46 AM I see the retarded faction of imbeciles and morons is now feeling superior by calling others idiots.
Impressive
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Just calls 'em like i sees 'em.
Stop saying idiotic things and I'll stop pointing it out, it's really that simple.
wdmso 07-19-2022, 12:18 PM [QUOTE=The Dad Fisherman;1229544]Just calls 'em like i sees 'em.
As long as it’s not a response to the topic .. Mostly you just conduct what you see as heroic drive by’s…. Owing the libs.
Such bravery
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The Dad Fisherman 07-19-2022, 12:46 PM As long as it’s not a response to the topic ..
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yet in a thread titled "CBP admits agents never whipped Haitian immigrants" you obviously managed to Stay the Course on the topic
No accountability for Jan 6th ring leaders no accountability for refusing legal subpoenas no accountability for the officer who stood still as children were gunned down or an unarmed man gunned down shot 60 times..
Zsomething Republicans are afraid of if it involves those I groups I listed to include those involved in Jan 6th
It’s funny you call out warren for making things up, and the Jan 6th committee are of course are also making things up, but you seem to skip over what conservatives make up
See a pattern ?
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.....my response seems to ring true
Yes, it always comes back to Jan. 6th and Trump.......ALWAYS :rolleyes:
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and your comeback was.....as expected.....January 6th
Keep rolling those eyes still upset he didn’t succeed in his coup ..
Jim in CT 07-19-2022, 01:24 PM yet in a thread titled "CBP admits agents never whipped Haitian immigrants" you obviously managed to Stay the Course on the topic
.....my response seems to ring true
and your comeback was.....as expected.....January 6th
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TDS in all
it’s glory.
PaulS 07-19-2022, 03:17 PM TDS - funny
So we should all just ignore the biggest threat to democracy in our country in our life time
Jim in CT 07-19-2022, 03:29 PM TDS - funny
So we should all just ignore the biggest threat to democracy in our country in our life time
it is funny.
who said ignore? but you’re all endlessly obsessed. You never stop
thinking about him.
paul, it’s possible to be concerned about something, without being obsessed. Perhaps that’s news to you. It’s not news to most of us.
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PaulS 07-19-2022, 03:36 PM it is funny.
who said ignore? but you’re all endlessly obsessed. You never stop
thinking about him.
paul, it’s possible to be concerned about something, without being obsessed. Perhaps that’s news to you. It’s not news to most of us.
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The attempted coup deserves to be spoken about every day until all the perps are in jail.
scottw 07-19-2022, 04:22 PM The attempted coup deserves to be spoken about every day until all the perps are in jail.
When he wins in 2024 he will have the house, senate, supreme court and a majority of state governorships. That will be a coup 😂
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wdmso 07-19-2022, 05:54 PM yet in a thread titled "CBP admits agents never whipped Haitian immigrants" you obviously managed to Stay the Course on the topic
yet in a thread titled "CBP admits agents never whipped Haitian immigrants" you obviously managed to Stay the Course on the topic
.....my response seems to ring true
and your comeback was.....as expected.....January 6th
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Classic as if I changed the topic
You do not pay attention do you
Stop being a obtuse and take a position
It’s not hard.
You either support seditious behavior Or you don’t!
There is no gray area
The Dad Fisherman 07-19-2022, 07:08 PM This thread isn't about seditious behavior, it's about whipping Haitians, try to keep up and stop trying to change the topic.
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Jim in CT 07-19-2022, 08:01 PM This thread isn't about seditious behavior, it's about whipping Haitians, try to keep up and stop trying to change the topic.
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but what if the topic makes democrats look bad?
The topic is actually about NOT whipping Haitians. Try to keep up TDF.
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Pete F. 07-20-2022, 08:05 AM “As a result of a lack of command, control, and communication, (horse patrol unit) personnel carried out an operation at the request of (Texas Department of Public Safety) which directly contravened (U.S. Border Patrol) operational objectives and resulted in the unnecessary use of force against migrants who were attempting to reenter the United States with food,” the investigation’s 511-page report said.
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Jim in CT 07-20-2022, 08:10 AM “As a result of a lack of command, control, and communication, (horse patrol unit) personnel carried out an operation at the request of (Texas Department of Public Safety) which directly contravened (U.S. Border Patrol) operational objectives and resulted in the unnecessary use of force against migrants who were attempting to reenter the United States with food,” the investigation’s 511-page report said.
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the left said they whipped haitian immigrants. They didn’t. As always, you had a narrative you liked and ran with it. the fact that it never took place, somehow doesn’t matter.
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wdmso 07-20-2022, 08:57 AM the left said they whipped haitian immigrants. They didn’t. As always, you had a narrative you liked and ran with it. the fact that it never took place, somehow doesn’t matter.
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Look up the term excessive force
Oh so because they didn’t whip them .. everything else they did was acceptable…
You’re just in that conservative conspiracy camp that their just victims and they made up the excessive use of force. Because Biden told them to!
Do you hear yourself everything’s a conspiracy or done on purpose by the media to make conservatives look bad … from duke to this incident
But as usual the incident in uvalde and search for accountability crickets from you Scott and Dad
But mention trans gays abortion or Jan 6th you guys can’t help yourself’s defending the party line
With the usual canned responses
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Jim in CT 07-20-2022, 09:05 AM Look up the term excessive force
Oh so because they didn’t whip them .. everything else they did was acceptable…
You’re just in that conservative conspiracy camp that their just victims and they made up the excessive use of force. Because Biden told them to!
Do you hear yourself everything’s a conspiracy or done on purpose by the media to make conservatives look bad … from duke to this incident
But as usual the incident in uvalde and search for accountability crickets from you Scott and Dad
But mention trans gays abortion or Jan 6th you guys can’t help yourself’s defending the party line
With the usual canned responses
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did they whip anybody?
i’ve seen the videos, and there’s no excessive force, or whipping, shown. so your side had no reason then, to say anyone was whipped
Lied again, and america saw.
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The Dad Fisherman 07-20-2022, 09:19 AM But as usual the incident in uvalde and search for accountability crickets from you Scott and Dad
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I’m going to go slow in the hope you can follow along.
There is not a single person here defending the Uvalde Police
Not
A
Single
Person
The Entire Department should be fired, stripped of their pensions, and never allowed to work in law enforcement ever again.
But of course you’ll comprehend this in your own “Special” way and read it as advocating for a ticker tape parade to celebrate their heroism :rolleyes:
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Pete F. 07-20-2022, 09:46 AM did they whip anybody?
i’ve seen the videos, and there’s no excessive force, or whipping, shown. so your side had no reason then, to say anyone was whipped
Lied again, and america saw.
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From the report
“resulted in the unnecessary use of force against migrants”
Kinda like “ When you guys put somebody in the car and you're protecting their head, you know, the way you put their hand over, like, don't hit their head and they've just killed somebody. Don't hit their head. I said, you can take the hand away, okay?”
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