Just raided mar-largo.

:lurk:

Who will Trump throw under the buss for taking boxes of national archive and potentially sensitive information? He is the best at getting others to do his dirty work, so someone is about to get tire treads down their backs.

Who will Trump throw under the buss for taking boxes of national archive and potentially sensitive information? He is the best at getting others to do his dirty work, so someone is about to get tire treads down their backs.

I bet he hired Sandy Berger...he's an expert

Just raided mar-largo.

:lurk:

I hope pete doesn't have a stroke.....

The tone over on NEWSMAX MAGA
heads are exploding

Here’s a good one. From the cult

If you don't fertilize the tree of Liberty from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots, how do you expect that tree to continue living? Quit being afraid and do what must be done!

Clearly not talking about What Trump did


Hannity is going deep on whataboutism and of course Hunter

2 tiered justice system

And Ron run to Trumps defense

The raid of MAL is another escalation in the weaponization of federal agencies against the Regime’s political opponents, while people like Hunter Biden get treated with kid gloves. Now the Regime is getting another 87k IRS agents to wield against its adversaries? Banana Republic.

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If you think that this is a nothing burger, do you know how much evidence it takes to sign off on a no-knock raid at the home of a former President?
😎
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Kevin threatened the AG
This was funny he said Follow the Facts :rotf3:

Best thing about 18 USC 2071 is it bars you from holding any office ever again
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Mark levin on Hannity just said this was the biggest attack on the republic LOL. ( and jan 6th a hoax ) And the DOJ is corrupt since Biden took office

And of course Ingram This attack on Trump is an attack on you! And used banana republic like 5 times and the usual victim hood And deep state mentioned like 5 times and all federal agency are corrupt. And of course Hillary and Hunter bla bla bla And of course Jim Jordan , 85 irs agents will be hired to harass Americans
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Who are the snowflakes now? :hihi:
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Pure speculation:

1) Taking a run at a former President for classified document mishandling is extremely high risk, but super low payoff.

2) Taking a run at a former President for selling access to documents in a private office is extremely high risk, but very high payoff.
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It’s just a courtesy check.

2) Taking a run at a former President for selling access to documents in a private office is extremely high risk, but very high payoff.
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probably selling stuff to the russians....

Mark levin on Hannity just said

And of course Ingram

And of course Jim Jordan ,

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see...most fox viewers are deranged leftists......

probably selling stuff to the russians....

Do you know how guilty you have to be for a federal judge that you appointed to sign off on a search warrant issued by an FBI director that you also appointed and executed by a DOJ attorney that you also appointed?
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Do you know how guilty you have to be for a federal judge that you appointed to sign off on a search warrant issued by an FBI director that you also appointed and executed by a DOJ attorney that you also appointed?
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I'm excited for you...it's a great start to your week, I wonder what is so bad that the dems need this distraction?

I'm excited for you...it's a great start to your week, I wonder what is so bad that the dems need this distraction?

Probably a Monkeypox outbreak at Disneyland.

You can think it’s a joke, I am NOT happy a former President’s residence was raided by the FBI. I’m appalled. I’m ashamed.

I’m appalled and ashamed that it was necessary.

Appalled and ashamed that the future of my country requires it.

But it does.
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I am NOT happy a former President’s residence was raided by the FBI.


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funniest thing ever written here....hall of fame

Best thing about 18 USC 2071 is it bars you from holding any office ever again
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Mini Me Ron is certainly hoping he gets charged, so he can pick up the baton.

I’m shocked whataboutism Jim hasn’t posted but, but Hillary by now on this thread; Jim are you OK?

I'm excited for you...it's a great start to your week, I wonder what is so bad that the dems need this distraction?

Odd how enforcement of the law and getting to the bottom to the only American President to conspire to steal an election

Is dumbed down by the faithful as a a Distraction
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Part of trumps statement about the raid.

Hillary Clinton was allowed to delete and acid wash 33,000 E-mails AFTER they were subpoenaed by Congress. Absolutely nothing has happened to hold her accountable. She even took antique furniture, and other items from the White House.? Which were returned a week later

Trumps refused to return these documents not Gifts for 2 years

I stood up to America’s bureaucratic corruption, I restored power to the people, and truly delivered for our Country, like we have never seen before. The establishment hated it. Now, as they watch my endorsed candidates win big victories, and see my dominance in all polls, they are trying to stop me



“See my Dominance “. Just those 3 words should raise the hair on the back of your neck
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Do you know how guilty you have to be for a federal judge that you appointed to sign off on a search warrant issued by an FBI director that you also appointed and executed by a DOJ attorney that you also appointed?
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Prob. all RINOs

What’s sad is republicans elected and sitting in congress and statehouse and governor seats

Are attacking the FBI and the DOJ
Just to support their re election or election campaigns.

None have defended due process or the legal base for such an action..

They jump to defend a Man over the nation and it’s institutions .

They even use the term banana republic wrong. Lol

I doubt the White House embraced or approved the timing of the raid .

Why give the Maga dog a bone prior to the midterms
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Best thing about 18 USC 2071 is it bars you from holding any office ever again
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Not so sure of that.

Not so sure of that.

don't dash his hopes...he's having a big day

I doubt the White House embraced or approved the timing of the raid .


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this is comical.....

Specifically, the law in question — Section 2071 of Title 18 of the United States Code — makes it a crime if someone who has custody of government documents or records “willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies or destroys” them.

If convicted, defendants can be fined or sentenced to prison for up to three years. In addition, the statute says, if they are currently in a federal office, they “shall forfeit” that office, and they shall “be disqualified from holding any office under the United States.”

On its face, then, if Mr. Trump were to be charged and convicted of removing, concealing or destroying government records under that law, he would seem to be ineligible to become president again.

But there was reason for caution: The law briefly received a close look in 2015, after it came to light that Hillary Clinton, then widely anticipated to be the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, had used a private email server to conduct government business while secretary of state.

Some Republicans were briefly entranced with whether the law could keep Mrs. Clinton out of the White House, including Michael Mukasey, a former attorney general in the administration of George W. Bush. So was at least one conservative think tank.

But in considering that situation, several legal scholars — including Seth B. Tillman of Maynooth University in Ireland and Eugene Volokh of the University of California, Los Angeles — noted that the Constitution sets eligibility criteria for who can be president, and argued that Supreme Court rulings suggest Congress cannot alter them. The Constitution allows Congress to disqualify people from holding office in impeachment proceedings, but grants no such power for ordinary criminal law.

Mr. Volokh later reported on his blog that Mr. Mukasey — who is also a former federal judge — wrote that “upon reflection,” Mr. Mukasey had been mistaken and Mr. Tillman’s analysis was “spot on.” (Mrs. Clinton was never charged with any crime related to her use of the server.)

On Monday, one of the most prominent voices pointing to Section 2071, the Democratic lawyer Marc Elias — who served as general counsel for Mrs. Clinton’s campaign — initially cited the law’s disqualification provision in a Twitter post as “the really, really big reason why the raid today is a potential blockbuster in American politics.”

He followed up with another Twitter post acknowledging that any conviction under Section 2071 might not ultimately bar Mr. Trump from seeking the presidency again — but arguing that a legal fight over it would still be important.

“Yes, I recognize the legal challenge that application of this law to a president would garner (since qualifications are set in Constitution),” he wrote. “But the idea that a candidate would have to litigate this is during a campaign is in my view a ‘blockbuster in American politics.’”

Fox News has been unable to spin this Mar-a-Lago story in their favor. Trump’s home was searched by 30 FBI Agents with a Warrant. Tucker Carlson was so embarrassed & confused that he skipped his own show. Jim’s gone to Maine to tan his testicles with Tuck. Trump supporters can’t face the cold-reality of what is about to happen:
Trump is their MAGA messiah. Their God. And now, all the lies he told them are unraveling at the seams. Get ready for mass psychosis to set in.

What happens next. Jonestown? Or worse?
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Snarky boy Scott will have fun with that one Pete, he just can’t help himself, he is sort of like Trump; his true self is right out in the open for everyone to see.

Snarky boy Scott will have fun with that one Pete, he just can’t help himself, he is sort of like Trump; his true self is right out in the open for everyone to see.

there was nothing intelligent nor of value in his rant or your reply to him which not surprising....

I'm glad pete is having fun...he's dedicated considerable time to hating trump....this is not the first time he's promised and celebrated the end for trump:hihi:....I guess we'll wait and see.....

I’d guess the wait and see part has shortened up considerably and considering how many fronts Trump is facing legal problems, I see him probably announcing soon. That way he can play the victim, which is his strong suit, ah the old witch hunt mantra we love to hate.

Latest over on cult center Newsmax

Judge Who Approved FBI Raid on Mar-a-Lago Once Linked To Jeffrey Epstein.

But he was Appointed by Trump

Yep right back to groomer’s

Pence statement

No former President of the United States has ever been subject to a raid of their personal residence in American history," he noted.

To bad he’s still to cowardly to say
No former President of the United States has ever Conspired to steal a US election and stay in power
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Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) suggested in a tweet Tuesday that presidents — and presumably former presidents — should not be subject to criminal searches.
“If the FBI can raid a U.S. President, imagine what they can do to you,”

Republicans just do not care about anything but their base


Make no mistake,” Hannity said, “if you are associated with Donald Trump in any way, you better cross all your i’s and dot all your t’s, because they’re coming for you with the full force of the federal government.”

He’s right and that’s what happens to those who conspired against the United States of America

Now hannity is afraid ! good
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Rep. Greene urges Congress to ‘DEFUND THE FBI!’ and fight ‘the enemy within’


“What is happening will NOT be tolerated!!!” Green added in her own words. “We are coming.”
On Tuesday, she said the “tyrannical” search of Trump’s residence by the FBI was unifying Republicans


A text message sent to supporters Tuesday morning announces that “MAR-A-LAGO was raided” and provides a link to donate to Save America, Trump’s PAC.


Only Republicans and Conservatives have been threatening violence and retribution for this search

All in defense of a man who clearly conspired to stay in power by any means Necessary .

But their not authoritarian minded
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The FBI raid on Trump's home tells us one thing.

Failure is not an option.

We must destroy the FBI.

We must save America.

I stand with Donald J. Trump.

Paul Gosar
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Rep. Greene urges Congress to ‘DEFUND THE FBI!’ and fight ‘the enemy within’


“What is happening will NOT be tolerated!!!” Green added in her own words. “We are coming.”
On Tuesday, she said the “tyrannical” search of Trump’s residence by the FBI was unifying Republicans


A text message sent to supporters Tuesday morning announces that “MAR-A-LAGO was raided” and provides a link to donate to Save America, Trump’s PAC.


Only Republicans and Conservatives have been threatening violence and retribution for this search

All in defense of a man who clearly conspired to stay in power by any means Necessary .

But their not authoritarian minded
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She will be either serving wings at hooters , pole dancing at some random truck stop strip club or be on porn hub in a few years…
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Trump signed a law in 2018 making removal of classified documents a felony. I'm sure it slipped his mind when he tried it himself.
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Trump signed a law in 2018 making removal of classified documents a felony. I'm sure it slipped his mind when he tried it himself.
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:rotfl:
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don't forget the Trump admin. set a record for referring the most cases concerning leaks to the DOJ ever.

The use of Words matter …. Just look a Republican language across the spectrum

Here’s the latest accusations of the FBI conspiracy

It raises the question of why and potentially the "planting" of some type of evidence, Trump warned.
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The reason Donald Trump is the first former president to be treated like a criminal is that he is the first former president who is a criminal.
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He has been dodging the law his entire life, pays the settlements and moves on to the next caper.

I'm sure he will answer all the questions at his deposition today since he has said in the past only guilty people take the fifth.

I'm sure he will answer all the questions at his deposition today since he has said in the past only guilty people take the fifth.

Just in

Former US President Donald Trump has said he declined to answer questions as part of a New York investigation into his family's business practices.
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Just in

Former US President Donald Trump has said he declined to answer questions as part of a New York investigation into his family's business practices.
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I guess he is guilty according to his past statements about people taking the fifth.
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I don't understand why Republicans are so upset? Don't they value their own advice to Black & brown people?
•If you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to worry about.
•Maybe if you respected law enforcement, they wouldn't bother you?
•Stop resisting and simply comply!
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I guess he is guilty according to his past statements about people taking the fifth.
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I am 100% certain that the more we look at Trump, the more dirt we'll find. There's no chance that's not true.

DO you really believe there's nothing to the Joe/Hunter Biden thing? Hunter earned all that money legitimately? Joe saying he never spoke to Hunter or his associates about business, that passes the common sense test? The FBI director says it's "very disturbing" the way agents downplayed that story, and obviously the media and big tech conspired to bury that story before the election. None of that concerns you?

Again, I believe Trump is one of the most flawed people in politics today. But when no one ever stops looking into him, and no one begins to look into the Bidens, that sort of predetermines that Trump will look worse, doesn't it?

It's my hope Trump never runs again. Id prefer any one of a handful of Republicans who aren't as insane. But any of them will get the same exact treatment from the media that Trump got. Ask Brett Kavanaugh or the racist Amy Barrett, who adopted 2 black orphans from Haiti, yet somehow she's still a white supremacist.

We never talk remotely honestly about issues anymore, just slinging mud about who is more disgusting.

I presume you're going to say "false equivalence" as always. But I'm on your side and rooting that they get some real dirt on Trump, although we're rooting for that for very different reasons.

I wonder when the loons will hit peak Trump Derangement?

I wonder when the loons will hit peak Trump Derangement?

They already have.

Camped out at Mar-a-Lago Club

With profound statements. “ Trump has never lied”

I wonder when the loons will hit peak Trump Derangement?

Which loons, the same people saying Trump getting raided at Mar-a-Lago will consolidate GOP voters and result in higher turnout are the same people who said that about Roe being overturned and about Trump's first impeachment. Then Trump lost by 7 million votes.
But people were happy……..
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I wonder when the loons will hit peak Trump Derangement?

If he runs in 2024 and wins, that will be the apex of TDS.

I wonder when the loons will hit peak Trump Derangement?

Easy answer, when this crazy mother fu*ker who the GOP worships as their savior, either gets convicted of the crimes he has committed or he decides he won’t run in 24. You may be a sarcastic and snarky bastard, but even you can understand that. Unless of course you are in the crazy camp, thinking Trump actually won and the FBI and DOJ are part of the deep state out to get him.

Unless of course you are in the crazy camp, thinking Trump actually won and the FBI and DOJ are part of the deep state out to get him.

Is former governor Andrew Cuomo in that crazy camp? Because he said that the DOJ better show it had a good reason for the raid, otherwise they have no credibility.

https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-cuomo-demands-explanation-trump-mar-lago-raid-1732207

Really Jim, in this fu*ked up political environment, you think the FBI, the DOJ and certainly the AG, would raid a former president without cause?

Really Jim, in this fu*ked up political environment, you think the FBI, the DOJ and certainly the AG, would raid a former president without cause?

I don't think they did. And I hope they didn't. But I wouldn't rule it out either. You're saying Andrew Cuomo is a crackpot? Or is he still a hero and I'm the only crackpot, even though I'm saying the same exact thing he's saying?

The reason why the environment is f*cked up, is hate. They hate Trump. They lied to a FISA court to spy on Carter Page because they hated Trump. They swept the Hunter story under the rug (according to the current FBI director, not according to me), because they hate Trump/

Stay on point Jim your whataboutism crap is old and moldy, time to throw it out. Trump lost his security clearance when he left office, he basically illegally took government documents, some supposedly highly classified and refused to give them back, he called the DOJ’s bluff and they took what they wanted back. The right wing conspiracy theory generation machine has sparked your interest, what a shocker.

Stay on point Jim your whataboutism crap is old and moldy, time to throw it out. Trump lost his security clearance when he left office, he basically illegally took government documents, some supposedly highly classified and refused to give them back, he called the DOJ’s bluff and they took what they wanted back. The right wing conspiracy theory generation machine has sparked your interest, what a shocker.

5 minutes ago, your point was that only right wing nuts questioned the validity of the raid.

Are democrats ever guilty of naked hypocrisy? Or is it always invalid whatabouitism?

Not sure why it's not valid to say "what about the time when democrats did something similar and that was OK?"

You never actually justify the lefts behavior, you just accuse me of whataboutism as if that's the end of it. If my comparisons are nonsense, explain why? We all see that you never, ever explain why.

"The right wing conspiracy theory generation machine has sparked your interest, what a shocker."

So you're saying that Governor Andrew Cuomo is part of the right wing conspiracy machine?

Donald Trump has a copy of the warrant and should release the reason it was authorized.
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Easy answer, when this crazy mother fu*ker who the GOP worships as their savior, either gets convicted of the crimes he has committed or he decides he won’t run in 24. You may be a sarcastic and snarky bastard, but even you can understand that. Unless of course you are in the crazy camp, thinking Trump actually won and the FBI and DOJ are part of the deep state out to get him.

wow...cranky little man:hihi:

Really Jim, in this fu*ked up political environment, you think the FBI, the DOJ and certainly the AG, would raid a former president without cause?

leftist like raids....especially with lots of military style assault weapons and when really old people are their target....

wow...cranky little man:hihi:

Were you looking in the mirror, step up on a stool fool it will make you look bigger; at least in your own eyes.

Were you looking in the mirror, step up on a stool fool it will make you look bigger; at least in your own eyes.

cranky internet tough guy :rotflmao:

Donald Trump has a copy of the warrant and should release the reason it was authorized.
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why?...the pressure is on garland & co to explain this,,, I heard brandon still doesn't know anything about it, he's still trying to shake hands with schumer again

Today, federal, state and local law enforcement will execute thousands of search warrants based on probable cause at people’s homes and businesses. Not one Republican elected official will say a word about any of them.
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leftist like raids....especially with lots of military style assault weapons and when really old people are their target....

Policy not age determines what’s required

Ps get back to us when they shoot said old person

I thought military assault weapons weren’t scary.

It’s odd only Republicans and conservatives feel they should be searched and arrested differently then the citizens around them.
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why?...the pressure is on garland & co to explain this,,, I heard brandon still doesn't know anything about it, he's still trying to shake hands with schumer again


No it’s not on Garland to explain anything. It’s called an investigation

Trump won’t release the warrant because he’s already fund raising off the search 5 mins after it the news . And he know his faithful will shower him with cash

Eric Trump boasts of record fundraising for ex-president after FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago residence

MAR-A-LAGO was RAIDED,” Trump texted his supporters on Tuesday morning. “The Radical Left is corrupt. Return the power to the people! Will you fight with me? Donate.”

Trump’s pick for Senate in Ohio, JD Vance, offered: “This is NOT a DRILL. Joe Biden is ATTACKING President Trump for STANDING UP for US, It’s time we show we have President Trump’s back! Act here.” The message provided a link to donate.

It all sounds l
very dystopian

Buy the faithful don’t reside in reality
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wdmso you’re right, they have no obligation to reveal anything.

But this is an organization that has gone out of its way to get americans to distrust them. AG Eric Holder said “I’m Obama’s wingman”, which is an explicit, overt statement that the DOJ is now politicized. The IRS targeted conservatives. The FBI lied to a FISA court to kick off the russian hoax. They threatened to go after parents who speak up at school board meetings. They buried the Hunter Biden facts.

If your goal was to stir up the crazies on the right, this is exactly how i’d do it. It’s precisely how i’d do it.

This doesn’t mean that they didn’t have perfectly legitimate reasons to search trumps home. But there’s a pattern here of using the DOJ as a club against the right. America doesn’t care if you refuse to concede that pattern.
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The Trump appointed Wray agrees with Hillary:

Christopher Wray, who was appointed as the agency’s director in 2017 by Trump, called threats circulating online against federal agents and the Justice Department “deplorable and dangerous.”

The Trump appointed Wray agrees with Hillary:

Christopher Wray, who was appointed as the agency’s director in 2017 by Trump, called threats circulating online against federal agents and the Justice Department “deplorable and dangerous.”

threats are indeed deplorable
And dangerous. has anyone disagreed?

That same Christopher Wray, said he finds it “deeply troubling” the way FBI agents swept the hunter biden affair under the rug.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/08/04/wray-allegations-troubling-about-fbi-agent-covering-up-hunter-biden-information-00049922

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What did Hillary say 1/2 of the Repub. are in a basket of deplorables?

What did Hillary say 1/2 of the Repub. are in a basket of deplorables?

yeah she did say it, and many say it cost her the election.

summer of love, who committed all that violence? republicans? the tea party?

no shortage of extremists on either side paul.
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yeah she did say it, and many say it cost her the election.

summer of love, who committed all that violence? republicans? the tea party?

no shortage of extremists on either side paul.
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Hmmm last I heard every single mass shooting was done by a white male alt right conservative.
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Then you may want to pay attention to the news a little more
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Hmmm last I heard every single mass shooting was done by a white male alt right conservative.
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(1) are those the only crimes in the world? the people burning cities in the summer of 2020, those weren’t liberal lunatics?

(2) as TDF said, your facts are wrong.
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yeah she did say it, and many say it cost her the election.

summer of love, who committed all that violence? republicans? the tea party?

no shortage of extremists on either side paul.
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How do you know it was all Dems? BC a lot of them were Black?

The far right has taken control of the Republican Party
They use terror to do it, for instance.

Michigan Rep. Peter Meijer wrote shortly after the attack about a fellow representative who bowed to the terrorists’ demands (and “terrorist” is the right word for someone who uses or threatens violence to influence politics):

My colleague told me that efforts to overturn the election were wrong, and that voting to certify was a constitutional duty. But my colleague feared for family members, and the danger the vote would put them in. Profoundly shaken, my colleague voted to overturn. An angry mob succeeded in threatening at least one member of Congress from performing what that member understood was a constitutional responsibility.

This domestic terrorist threat has increased over the past years, starting from the Oklahoma bombing it’s continually grown.
From this thread content I can see that people know about Wray’s statement.
The suggestion that the DOJ and FBI should be driven by terrorist’s demands is comical.
What other terrorist group has the US government conceded to?

Here’s the FBI definition of domestic terrorism

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

If you want to claim “they didn’t do it yet” the act of threatening is a crime and for good reason.

A violent crime, violent felony, crime of violence or crime of a violent nature is a crime in which an offender or perpetrator uses or threatens to use harmful force upon a victim. This entails both crimes in which the violent act is the objective, such as murder, assault, rape and assassination, as well as crimes in which violence is used as a method of coercion or show of force, such as robbery, extortion and terrorism. Violent crimes may, or may not, be committed with weapons.

But Hunter, Hillary and race riots…..🤡s
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Trump is the person who revealed MAL had been searched.

The FBI went in plainclothes, after informing the SS.

Trump has a copy of the search warrant that lists the crimes they are investigating.
He has the inventory of what was seized.

Trump is the one withholding that information.

Why won't Trump tell us if he's under investigation for violating the Espionage Act?

Did the warrant list 18 USC 793? Yes, or no.

Your leader is a crook, a conman and you’re his marks.
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How do you know it was all Dems? BC a lot of them were Black?

So you don't concede that BLM and Antifa are mostly on the left. Yet you know that everyone threatening the FBI is a conservative.

I forgot what a treat it is to talk to you.

In June 2020, the think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) assembled a database of 893 terrorism incidents in the United States beginning in 1994.[19][58][259] An analysis of the database conducted by The Guardian in July 2020 found no murders linked to antifa or anti-fascism since 1994. According to The Guardian, the only death resulting from an anti-fascist attack recorded in the database was that of Willem van Spronsen, who was shot dead by police while allegedly firebombing a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention center in Tacoma, Washington. In contrast, the study highlighted the fact that 329 people were killed by American white supremacists or other right-wing extremists during the same period. The Guardian quoted Heidi Beirich, a co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, as saying that "Antifa is not going around murdering people like rightwing extremists are. It's a false equivalence. I've at times been critical of antifa for getting into fights with Nazis at rallies and that kind of violence, but I can't think of one case in which an antifa person was accused of murder." Seth Jones, a counter-terrorism expert who led the creation of the CSIS's database, told The Guardian that "[l]eftwing violence has not been a major terrorism threat" and that "the most significant domestic terrorism threat comes from white supremacists, anti-government militias and a handful of individuals associated with the 'boogaloo' movement that are attempting to create a civil war in the United States."[19]

The CSIS database was updated in October 2020 to include the suspected killing of Aaron Danielson by Michael Reinoehl.[260] In September 2020, when the investigation was still ongoing, Brian Levin said that if Reinoehl was implicated, it would mark the first case in recent history of an antifa supporter being charged with homicide.[261] Reinoehl was charged by Portland police with second-degree murder and was later was shot and killed by a federally led fugitive task force near Lacey, Washington.[262][263] Reinoehl was not associated with Rose City Antifa or the Portland-based anti-fascist organization Popular Mobilization.
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(1) are those the only crimes in the world? the people burning cities in the summer of 2020, those weren’t liberal lunatics?

(2) as TDF said, your facts are wrong.
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Your facts are wrong

Man who helped ignite George Floyd riots identified as white supremacist: Police

https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536
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So you don't concede that BLM and Antifa are mostly on the left. Yet you know that everyone threatening the FBI is a conservative.

I forgot what a treat it is to talk to you.

Then don't respond. I am clear in voicing what I think of you.

In June 2020, the think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) assembled a database of 893 terrorism incidents in the United States beginning in 1994.[19][58][259] An analysis of the database conducted by The Guardian in July 2020 found no murders linked to antifa or anti-fascism since 1994. According to The Guardian, the only death resulting from an anti-fascist attack recorded in the database was that of Willem van Spronsen, who was shot dead by police while allegedly firebombing a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention center in Tacoma, Washington. In contrast, the study highlighted the fact that 329 people were killed by American white supremacists or other right-wing extremists during the same period. The Guardian quoted Heidi Beirich, a co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, as saying that "Antifa is not going around murdering people like rightwing extremists are. It's a false equivalence. I've at times been critical of antifa for getting into fights with Nazis at rallies and that kind of violence, but I can't think of one case in which an antifa person was accused of murder." Seth Jones, a counter-terrorism expert who led the creation of the CSIS's database, told The Guardian that "[l]eftwing violence has not been a major terrorism threat" and that "the most significant domestic terrorism threat comes from white supremacists, anti-government militias and a handful of individuals associated with the 'boogaloo' movement that are attempting to create a civil war in the United States."[19]

The CSIS database was updated in October 2020 to include the suspected killing of Aaron Danielson by Michael Reinoehl.[260] In September 2020, when the investigation was still ongoing, Brian Levin said that if Reinoehl was implicated, it would mark the first case in recent history of an antifa supporter being charged with homicide.[261] Reinoehl was charged by Portland police with second-degree murder and was later was shot and killed by a federally led fugitive task force near Lacey, Washington.[262][263] Reinoehl was not associated with Rose City Antifa or the Portland-based anti-fascist organization Popular Mobilization.
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"The Guardian in July 2020 found no murders linked to antifa or anti-fascism since 1994."

5 Dallas cops killed at a BLM rally by a shooter who admitted he hwas mad that cops routinely kill black men (which side spews that bile, remind me?).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

NOBODY was murdered during the ANTIFA riots of 2020? Not one person?

Then don't respond. I am clear in voicing what I think of you.

"Then don't respond"

I can both respond and point out the absurdity.

"I am clear in voicing what I think of you"

It seems like you care enough to respond to pretty much every post.

It seems like you care enough to respond to pretty much every post.

i care about pointing out lies. Not one person here cares what you think about me. Not a one.
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i care about pointing out lies. Not one person here cares what you think about me. Not a one.
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How did I lie?

Tough week for the orange man, FBI raid and then having to sit for eight hours and take the fifth 440 times, I’m sure his team is working on some new catchy hat slogans because you can never have enough clever ways to cash grab from the faithful fools.

"The Guardian in July 2020 found no murders linked to antifa or anti-fascism since 1994."

5 Dallas cops killed at a BLM rally by a shooter who admitted he hwas mad that cops routinely kill black men (which side spews that bile, remind me?).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

NOBODY was murdered during the ANTIFA riots of 2020? Not one person?

Now race riots are Antifa?

Following the murder of Floyd, unrest broke out in the Minneapolis–Saint Paul area on May 26, and quickly spread across the country and the world. Polls have estimated that between 15 million and 26 million people have participated at some point in the demonstrations in the United States, making them the LARGEST protests in United States history. It was also estimated that between May 26 and August 22, around 93% of protests were "peaceful and nondestructive". According to several studies and analyses, protests have been overwhelmingly peaceful.

So of the roughly 20 MILLION protesters, 14,000 were arrested, 19 people died and between 400 and 2000 police officers and a unknown number of civilians were injured.

Tell me how Trumplicans support our men and women in uniform — unless you’re a Capitol Police officer, a veteran exposed to burn pits, or a police officer having to face teenagers with AR-15s, or an FBI agent, or . . .
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How did I lie?

Quite simply, in Jim’s world everything is black and white and all truth is known by Jim, therefore if you disagree you are lying.
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How did I lie?

you implied that the threats against the FBI are from the right ( a very logical assumption, obviously) but deny that BLM/antifa thugs are left wing extremists. Ridiculous.
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Quite simply, in Jim’s world everything is black and white and all truth is known by Jim, therefore if you disagree you are lying.
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no, you could fill the oceans with what i don’t know.

What i do know, is that if you assume people making threats against the. FBI are right wing nuts, but deny that BLM/antifa thugs are left wing nuts, then you’re an unserious, partisan hack.

Pete, we can’t all be as tolerant of
differing opinions as you clearly are. Right?
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Tough week for the orange man, FBI raid and then having to sit for eight hours and take the fifth 440 times, I’m sure his team is working on some new catchy hat slogans because you can never have enough clever ways to cash grab from the faithful fools.

I saw a picture of him with a new red hat, had a 5 on it.

Realize Trump would like to know who revealed the documents and their locations. However, he does not want anyone to know details of the warrant because that would kill the current fundraising campaign.
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no, you could fill the oceans with what i don’t know.

What i do know, is that if you assume people making threats against the. FBI are right wing nuts, but deny that BLM/antifa thugs are left wing nuts, then you’re an unserious, partisan hack.

Pete, we can’t all be as tolerant of
differing opinions as you clearly are. Right?
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Silly victim,

Trumpists were explicit: “‘Civil War 2.0 just kicked off,’ one user wrote on Twitter, with another adding, ‘One step closer to a kinetic civil war.’ Others said they were ready to take part: ‘I already bought my ammo.’” Steve Bannon, who was pardoned for bilking Trump supporters who thought they were building a wall, declared that “This is war” and called the FBI the “Gestapo.”

Trump is a sick soul who cannot imagine a world in which people act on principle or think about the welfare of others. While in power, Trump wanted to use the FBI to punish his political opponents (“Lock her up”) and reward his friends (“Go easy on Michael Flynn”). He projects his own corrupt motives onto others and assumes that the FBI investigation is nothing but a Democratic power grab. It would be pathetic if he had not dragged an entire political party into the fever swamps with him.

This experiment in self-government requires a minimum amount of social trust to succeed. With every tweet that spreads cynicism and lies, with every call to arms that welcomes civil conflict, Trumpist Republicans are poisoning the nation they so ostentatiously claim to love.
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Attack on the FBI building in Cincinnati:
Interstate I71 North is shut down after suspect drove toward Waynesville Ohio. Unconfirmed reports say he’s now firing at police from a corn field.

Meanwhile Marjorie Taylor Greene released an ad for her new line of “enemy of the state” t-shirts and hats targeting the FBI.

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you implied that the threats against the FBI are from the right ( a very logical assumption, obviously) but deny that BLM/antifa thugs are left wing extremists. Ridiculous.
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I did no such thing.

How do you know it was all Dems? BC a lot of them were Black?

I asked 2 questions.

So you're a scummy liar.

I did no such thing.



I asked 2 questions.

So you're a scummy liar.

Right. You followed the reference to the FBI threats with a reference to Hilary saying that half of the countrys republicans are deplorable, and that was just a coincidence. Sure Paul.

If you want to deny that BLM and Antifa are left-leaning, it's a free country.

Attack on the FBI building in Cincinnati:
Interstate I71 North is shut down after suspect drove toward Waynesville Ohio. Unconfirmed reports say he’s now firing at police from a corn field.

Meanwhile Marjorie Taylor Greene released an ad for her new line of “enemy of the state” t-shirts and hats targeting the FBI.

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that violence is disgusting. i can readily admit that.

but when pro abortion groups release the names and addresses of the school that judge amy barrett’s kids attend,,you’re silent.

when the left publishes judges home addresses, and someone shows up to kill one of them,,you have nothing to say.

because it’s ok when the left does it.
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Right. You followed the reference to the FBI threats with a reference to Hilary saying that half of the countrys republicans are deplorable, and that was just a coincidence. Sure Paul.

BC Wray used the same word

If you want to deny that BLM and Antifa are left-leaning, it's a free country.

I'm sure BLM is but doubt antifa cares about any political group other than being anti facist.

I'm sure BLM is but doubt antifa cares about any political group other than being anti facist.

yes because nothing says “I’m anti fascist” quite like wearing a black ski mask and beating to a pulp those who disagree with me.

Antifa isn’t liberal, even though they’re anti trump and anti police. Whatever you say.
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yes because nothing says “I’m anti fascist” quite like wearing a black ski mask and beating to a pulp those who disagree with me.

Antifa isn’t liberal, even though they’re anti trump and anti police. Whatever you say.
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Somehow being anti trump or anti police means their liberal:rollem:

Somehow being anti trump or anti police means their liberal:rollem:

well, i don’t see conservative people saying police are a bunch of racist assassins. That comes pretty much from one direction , the left. Ask Al Sharpton. And it may be news to you, republicans tend to like trump. so being anti trump and anti cop, is indicative of a liberal. in the case of being anti cop, it also strongly implies one is very, very stupid. because the data could not be more clear, that what the left is saying about cops, is bullsh*t.
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Sorry Jim your the stupid one who for some crazed right of the road mindset, thinks anyone left of center or liberal is anti cop or thinks cops are racist. Now had you said most left of center, some right of center and all liberals, think there are a lot of racists hiding behind badges, well then I’d agree with you.

Sorry Jim your the stupid one who for some crazed right of the road mindset, thinks anyone left of center or liberal is anti cop or thinks cops are racist. Now had you said most left of center, some right of center and all liberals, think there are a lot of racists hiding behind badges, well then I’d agree with you.

i never ever said that everyone on the left is anti cop.

I said that if you’re anti trump AND anti cop, you’re almost certainly a liberal. And i stand by that.

Not all liberals hate cops. But most people who hate cops are liberal.

That’s crazy? Really? show me some data that shows i’m way off.

You responded to something i never even came close to saying. But i’m crazy.
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your the stupid one



this is gold....belongs on a tee shirt:laugha:

Plot Thickens. Per a grand jury subpoena, national security docs were seized from Mar-a-Lago back in June. So looks like this week's raid seized docs that were hidden in June, after someone in Trump's inner circle dropped a dime. Things are heating up.
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:humpty:

Plot Thickens. Per a grand jury subpoena, national security docs were seized from Mar-a-Lago back in June. So looks like this week's raid seized docs that were hidden in June, after someone in Trump's inner circle dropped a dime. Things are heating up.
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your fantasy narratives usually disappoint you....there have been many

So when trump is exposed for attempting to sell nuclear weapons information to Saudi Arabia, do you think he will get the death penalty?
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So when trump is exposed for attempting to sell nuclear weapons information to Saudi Arabia, do you think he will get the death penalty?
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Definitely…he should get two death penalties actually…one for peeing on Russian hookers and one for selling nuclear weapons to other countries…might not be enough punishment to satisfy Pete though
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https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2022-08-11/fbi-sought-nuclear-documents-in-search-of-trumps-home-washington-post
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My jaw just about hit the floor…
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So when trump is exposed for attempting to sell nuclear weapons information to Saudi Arabia, do you think he will get the death penalty?
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Some people are concerned about why the Saudis gave his son in law Jared 2 BILLION dollars.
Some people were also concerned that Jaredvcouldn’t get a security clearance.
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What’s Trump going to do now that Garland has called his bluff?

"I would just LOVE to release it all but my lawyers tell me I just can't until the tax department has finished the audit" Oops, sorry wrong scandal!
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“Surely, Donald Trump stealing nuclear secrets will be enough to break away Republicans from him.”

if you haven’t learned this lesson now you never will.

The man could eat a live baby on national television and not a single Republican voter would give a #^&#^&#^&#^&, a fetus, ehh maybe.
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FLASHBACK (FEBRUARY 2019): "Whistleblowers Raise Grave Concerns with Trump Administration’s Efforts to Transfer Sensitive Nuclear Technology to Saudi Arabia"
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What’s Trump going to do now that Garland has called his bluff?

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I don’t know. Let’s ask Raider Ronnie what he thinks … :rotfl:
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Armed man who tried to breach FBI's Cincinnati office killed following police standoff

And of course the GOP leadership will deny they had any influence in his actions even with their statements all in print.

The Republican response to the search also sought to instill fear in ordinary people by suggesting that they too could be targeted by federal agents.


again without evidence, much less justification — that maybe the agents planted evidence as they combed through Mar-a-Lago. Because, it seems, any opponent of Trump’s must be cast in the most nefarious terms possible.

The Department of Justice has reached an intolerable state of weaponized politicization," said McCarthy.

FBI's Trump Informants Are Traitors, Marjorie Taylor Greene Says

Little Marco. After todays raid on Mar A Lago what do you think the left plans to use those 87,000 new IRS agents for?


It’s all lies fear and division from those who wish to cash in on the incident

And nothing about what if . what Trump did was in fact illegal which has a high probability.. we know their response just more lies
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Between Hillary emailing risotto recipes from a private server and Trump selling our nuclear secrets, neither side seems to care much about protecting important information.
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Trump selling our nuclear secrets,

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you getting a little ahead of yourself....

Armed man who tried to breach FBI's Cincinnati office killed following police standoff

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was that the guy with the AR-15 style nail gun? We should ban those......

was that the guy with the AR-15 style nail gun? We should ban those......

We should ban those who motivate people to act on their behalf. and dismiss those who ignore it happening

You guys are to hard on Trump. Obama took 30,000,000 docs. from the White House.

We should ban those who motivate people to act on their behalf. and dismiss those who ignore it happening

So when Obama (and many democrats) say that cops are involved in a plot to kill blacks, and people hear that and then go out and murder police officers...using your logic, why isn't Obama responsible?

Because everything is OK when democrats do it!!

When the left publishes the home address of Kanavaugh and someone then shows up to assassinate him, why don't you say the pro-abortion kooks are responsible?

Because everything is OK when the left does it??

Thousands and thousands of posts, and every single one of them is identical.

More lies shot down:

Former President Donald Trump and his lawyers have baselessly peddled a conspiracy theory that the FBI may have "planted" evidence during its raid on Mar-a-Lago because "nobody" was allowed to watch. But Trump's lawyer admitted on Thursday that Trump and his family watched the "whole thing" go down from New York through CCTV footage from the resort.

Trump and his attorneys, Christina Bobb and Alina Habba, immediately claimed that the FBI may have "planted" damning evidence during the Mar-a-Lago raid on Monday without any proof, citing only the fact that Bobb was prevented from observing the search as is standard in such FBI operations. Trump, Bobb and Habba in numerous statements speculated about what the FBI may have done while "nobody" was watching.

"The FBI and others from the Federal Government would not let anyone, including my lawyers, be anywhere near the areas that were rummaged and otherwise looked at during the raid on Mar-a-Lago," Trump ranted on Truth Social on Tuesday. "Everyone was asked to leave the premises, they wanted to be left alone, without any witnesses to see what they were doing, taking or, hopefully not, 'planting.' Why did they STRONGLY insist on having nobody watching them, everybody out?"

Bobb acknowledged on Thursday that while surveillance cameras at Mar-a-Lago were shut off for a "very short period of time" while FBI agents spoke to Trump's legal team, the former president and his family were able to view the entire raid through surveillance video.

"I think the folks in New York — President Trump and his family — they probably had a better view than I did. Because they had the CCTV, they were able to watch," Bobb told the right-wing outlet Real America's Voice.

Bobb said that she was busy speaking with investigators during the search but the Trump family saw "the whole thing."

"So they actually have a better idea of what took place inside," Bobb said.

Channel 5 just reported Trump is being investigated for more than just some sloppy document handling, they used the term espionage. Maybe he was hoping to set up a trade for the pee tapes.
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So when Obama (and many democrats) say that cops are involved in a plot to kill blacks, and people hear that and then go out and murder police officers...using your logic, why isn't Obama responsible?

Because everything is OK when democrats do it!!

When the left publishes the home address of Kanavaugh and someone then shows up to assassinate him, why don't you say the pro-abortion kooks are responsible?

Because everything is OK when the left does it??

Thousands and thousands of posts, and every single one of them is identical.

when Obama (and many democrats) say that cops are involved in a plot to kill blacks, and people hear that and then go out and murder police officers...using your logic, why isn't Obama responsible?

Can’t you ever post something That actually happened and was actually spoken

President Obama critics say all he does is "hate on cops," like Jim your a broken record

He did say President Obama Says Police Killings 'Symptomatic of ... Racial Disparities'. Truth hurts ?

And also said

Not long after three police officers were shot dead Sunday in Baton Rouge, La., President Obama condemned the attack. "For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault," he said. "These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop."

Republicans or Trump have said no such thing regarding the FBI of the man who tried to kill FBI agents

Ps no one tried to kill Brett or even came close Only you call a guy in a car who called the cops on himself who claimed he wanted to kill Brett and assignation attempt

Your revisionist history is tiring
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when Obama (and many democrats) say that cops are involved in a plot to kill blacks, and people hear that and then go out and murder police officers...using your logic, why isn't Obama responsible?

Can’t you ever post something That actually happened and was actually spoken ..


when Obama (and many democrats) say that cops are involved in a plot to kill blacks, and people hear that and then go out and murder police officers...using your logic, why isn't Obama responsible?

President Obama critics say all he does is "hate on cops," Jim your a broken record

He did say President Obama Says Police Killings 'Symptomatic of ... Racial Disparities'. Truth hurts ?

And also said

Not long after three police officers were shot dead Sunday in Baton Rouge, La., President Obama condemned the attack. "For the second time in two weeks, police officers who put their lives on the line for ours every day were doing their job when they were killed in a cowardly and reprehensible assault," he said. "These are attacks on public servants, on the rule of law, and on civilized society, and they have to stop."

Republicans or Trump have said no such thing regarding the FBI of the man who tried to kill FBI agents

Your revisionist history is tiring
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that did happen. obama
said that the cases of cops
killing blacks aren’t isolated incidents. That’s what obama said, and there only one way to interpret that, he’s saying that cops are engaged in a plot.

here…go ahead and deny what CBS news reported…

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/obama-police-shootings/

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I bet pete is drinking all weekend.....

that did happen. obama
said that the cases of cops
killing blacks aren’t isolated incidents. That’s what obama said, and there only one way to interpret that, he’s saying that cops are engaged in a plot.
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and there only one way to interpret that,

Yes your right there is only 1 way to interpret. and it’s not even close to your misinterpretation .

That Obama said that cops are involved in a plot to kill blacks,

Like I said revisionist
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What he actually said was


President Barack Obama called on American law enforcement to root out bias in its ranks and said all Americans should be troubled by frequent police shootings of blacks and Hispanics, insisting that fatal incidents in Minnesota and Louisiana are not isolated.

Adding his voice to a growing public outcry, Obama said the shootings were symptoms of a "broader set of racial disparities" in the justice system that aren't being fixed quickly enough.

And yet again we see conservatives using back the blue only as a campaign slogan

Yet when the rubber meets the road just like veterans and people with medical needs need their backing they throw them under the bus for political expediency
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that did happen. obama
said that the cases of cops
killing blacks aren’t isolated incidents. That’s what obama said, and there only one way to interpret that, he’s saying that cops are engaged in a plot.

here…go ahead and deny what CBS news reported…

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/newyork/news/obama-police-shootings/

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No that’s your way of interpreting a news report and not his actual words, because that’s the narrative you want to push now. And the records would prove black and browns have been profiled for years by law enforcement.

No that’s your way of interpreting a news report and not his actual words, because that’s the narrative you want to push now. And the records would prove black and browns have been profiled for years by law enforcement.

Jims been told white supremacy and the radicalized right has killed more Americans then Than Terrorist

His response what about Antifa or BLM
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I bet pete is drinking all weekend.....

Ahh, silly troll
Why would I drink, I’m not the one under investigation for federal statute violations of 793 (Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information): law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18…
2071 (concealment, removal of docs): law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18…
1519 (destruction of records or obstruction.of Fed investigation):
law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18…
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Ahh, silly troll
Why would I drink,

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celebrating....:buds:

As much as we and even Jim if you can believe him despise Trump, none feel the need to celebrate learning someone elected to the highest office, was taking top secret highly classified documents illegally from the White House. I’d be more more concerned about why he took them, these aren’t mementos of his time there, these are potentially highly damaging to our national security if this traitor (yet to be determined) had plans to profit from his possession of said documents.

I wonder if ketchup comes off the paint at Mara lago easily?
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U.S. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) today issued the following statement regarding the FBI’s decision in the Hillary Clinton email probe:

“The FBI concluded what many Americans have known for quite some time, which is that Hillary Clinton’s conduct as Secretary of State and her mishandling of classified information was disgraceful and unbecoming of someone who aspires to the presidency. There is simply no excuse for Hillary Clinton's decision to set up a home-cooked email system which left sensitive and classified national security information vulnerable to theft and exploitation by America’s enemies. Her actions were grossly negligent, damaged national security and put lives at risk.

"Hillary Clinton's actions have sent the worst message to the millions of hard-working federal employees who hold security clearances and are expected to go to great lengths to secure sensitive government information and abide by the rules. They don't take their oaths lightly, and we shouldn't expect any less of their leaders.

"Hillary Clinton’s reckless and thoughtless mishandling of classified information is not the end of the story however. It’s only a matter of time before the next shoe drops and the nexus of corruption and controversy that has surrounded Hillary Clinton throughout her time in public office produces yet another scandal for the American people to endure. Given the consequential and challenging times in which we live, America simply cannot afford any more Clinton drama."


Same guy MARCO RUBIO’S MOUTH REFUSES TO FORM THE WORDS “TRUMP WAS WRONG”
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As much as we and even Jim if you can believe him despise Trump, none feel the need to celebrate learning someone elected to the highest office, was taking top secret highly classified documents illegally from the White House. I’d be more more concerned about why he took them, these aren’t mementos of his time there, these are potentially highly damaging to our national security if this traitor (yet to be determined) had plans to profit from his possession of said documents.


All he had to do was give them up when asked .and say just like Clinton they weren’t aware their were classified documents on her server or in his home

But there was no benefit in Truth and honesty and Trump did what’s natural to him he goes full blown subversion against the government and all America’s agency’s with lies divisions .. with hopes his supporters will act accordingly and they did to including elected officials nation wide



Roger Marshall
United States Senator

These raids and seizures are a fishing expedition and a fascade” (sic) he tweeted. In an interview: “You know, friends texted me things like, is the FBI turned into the Gestapo?” The casual hypocrisy of politicians such as Roger Marshall is easy to see, and to mock. One minute they “back the blue.” The next minute, the FBI is the Nazi secret police.

But he said this prior

A year ago, Sen. Roger Marshall of Kansas seemed pretty clear: An uptick in national crime rates was the Democrats’ fault. “Socialist Democrats created this crisis,” he wrote. “They defunded the police. They created the anti-police mobs. They turned their back on and, quite frankly, destroyed the integrity of the police.”


They lie because they know their supporters don’t pay attention
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Same guy MARCO RUBIO’S MOUTH REFUSES TO FORM THE WORDS “TRUMP WAS WRONG”
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how is that any different from all the lefties here, obviously including you, who are incapable of admitting biden has ever been wrong? how is it any different?
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how is that any different from all the lefties here, obviously including you, who are incapable of admitting biden has ever been wrong? how is it any different?
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Poor victim
You’re still Trump’s buttboy at heart.

Just a reminder, the “it’s not big deal to steal nuclear secrets” crowd tried to sell us all that kneeling at a football game was anti-American. Over and over and over and over.

As far as Biden he’s quietly amassing a record of historic wins on infrastructure, guns, manufacturing--& now maybe Rx pricing, climate & energy.
Not a new New Deal but pretty damned impressive in a 50/50 Congress.

You think others should be willing to compare him to a man who’s at minimum an:

Adulterer.

Draft dodger with a dubious medical diagnosis.

Bully.

Trump is no traditional man. He’s a traditional coward.

He’s exactly the kind of man honorable men hold in contempt.
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how is that any different from all the lefties here, obviously including you, who are incapable of admitting biden has ever been wrong? how is it any different?
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You really don’t get it do you Jim.

Once again making comparison on topics with zero connections. To the topic on hand.

Why am I not surprised

Ps get back to me when Biden’s wrongs are illegal or the FBI feels the need to get a search warrant due to his lack of cooperation


FYI Trumps excuse for those documents were just as I predicted

He claims he de classified them

Ya know the ones he said he didn’t have
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So telling that after we all now know how serious this is, potentially more dangerous to our national security than we might never know, yet for Snarky boy it’s pushing Pete’s buttons and Jim it’s whataboutism about the Biden’s. No concern about how serious this is, no questions about WTF Trump intended to do with these compartmentalization documents that are at the highest levels of top secret.

You really don’t get it do you Jim.

Once again making comparison on topics with zero connections. To the topic on hand.

Why am I not surprised

Ps get back to me when Biden’s wrongs are illegal or the FBI feels the need to get a search warrant due to his lack of cooperation


FYI Trumps excuse for those documents were just as I predicted

He claims he de classified them

Ya know the ones he said he didn’t have
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Biden has a rape allegation against him. And and his loser son made zillions in ukraine when VP Joe was obama’s point man there. And that’s just a coincidence.

it’s kind of easy to say bidens wrongs aren’t that bad, when we refuse to look into any of them. isn’t it?

Bidens lies, his sexual
impropriety, his shady financial deals, none of that is worth discussing, because itjeyre not as severe as those of trump. So there’s a certain amount of unethical
behavior that’s acceptable,,and shockingly you say Biden is below the limit, therefore you can’t discuss. any of it even for a second.

so your synopsis of biden is, “hey, he’s not as bad as Trump.”
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No concern about how serious this is, no questions about WTF Trump intended to do with these compartmentalization documents that are at the highest levels of top secret.

you actually don't know that much at this point, there are leaked details from unnamed sources....those always work out for you:jester:

Hillary would have just cut the top secret label off the top and said .."what does it matter?"....and I don't think she ever had the ability to declassify stuff

if he's really done something so seriously wrong I'm sure he'll be in handcuffs shortly....or worse

‘Sounds about Right’: Ex-CIA Chief Michael Hayden Implies Trump Should Be Executed for Taking Classified Docs

Ivanka’s Trademark Requests Were Fast-Tracked In China After Trump Was Elected

On March 29, 2017, Ivanka Trump, the eldest daughter of President Trump, became an official government employee, joining her husband, Jared Kushner, as an adviser to her father.

The day before that appointment, Ivanka applied for 17 new trademarks with the Chinese government.

Jared and Ivanka made up to $640 million in the White House

One major factor in their outside profits came from Ivanka Trump’s ownership stake in the Trump Hotel in DC, just blocks from the White House and the locus of influence peddling in the Trump administration.

Then Jared scores Gee, Wonder Why Mohammed Bin Salman Personally Intervened to Give Jared Kushner $2 Billion
Advisers for the Saudi Arabian foreign wealth fund didn’t want to infuse Kushner’s private equity firm with cash. Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman did it anyway

But but Biden’s financial deals really he provided his tax returns Trump did not

But but Hunter yet while trump was in office and Republicans owned the house no Hunter probe no lap top not a finger lifted to address his supposed Crimes ? Until Biden got the democratic nomination . Coincidence?

FYI Hunter Biden is an American lawyer and lobbyist who has a net worth of $1 million. let that soak in the conservatives bubble want you to think Hunter is the Napoleon of Crime !
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Biden has a rape allegation against him. And and his loser son made zillions in ukraine when VP Joe was obama’s point man there. And that’s just a coincidence.

it’s kind of easy to say bidens wrongs aren’t that bad, when we refuse to look into any of them. isn’t it?

Bidens lies, his sexual
impropriety, his shady financial deals, none of that is worth discussing, because itjeyre not as severe as those of trump. So there’s a certain amount of unethical
behavior that’s acceptable,,and shockingly you say Biden is below the limit, therefore you can’t discuss. any of it even for a second.

so your synopsis of biden is, “hey, he’s not as bad as Trump.”
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The master of whataboutism strikes again.
Nothing of substance was found is not that nobody looked.
Now do Trump Corps current court case, Ivankas china deals, Jared’s Saudi billions and the Stable Genius’s 20+ sexual assault allegations, some of which he admitted on tape.

“Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”

You compare near beer to moonshine and convince yourself you’re drunk.

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if he's really done something so seriously wrong I'm sure he'll be in handcuffs shortly....or worse

‘Sounds about Right’: Ex-CIA Chief Michael Hayden Implies Trump Should Be Executed for Taking Classified Docs

Edward Snowden, the man at the heart of the NSA information leaks, is nothing but a “traitor” — and America ought to recreate history in dealing with him, real estate mogul Donald Trump said on a “Fox & Friends” interview.

In other words, execute him, Mr. Trump implied.

“I think Snowden is a terrible threat, I think he’s a terrible traitor, and you know what we used to do in the good old days when we were a strong country — you know what we used to do to traitors, right?” Trump said, Politico reported.

“Well, you killed them, Donald,” said fill-in host, Eric Bolling.

Mr. Trump’s response: Well, he is damaging America.

“This guy is really doing damage to this country, and he’s also making us look like dopes,” he said, Politico reported. “We can’t allow this guy to go out there and give out all our secrets and also embarrass us at every level. We should get him back and get him back now.”
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it’s kind of easy to say bidens wrongs aren’t that bad, when we refuse to look into any of them. isn’t it?

Jim you only want these things looked into to because your trying to defend trump with your fanatical what about isms based on a feeling

Talk about witch hunts . You have no evidence of wrong doing.. yet conservatives want investigations to support their feelings and their made up versions of events.

Just look at Hillary’s emails they just ignored the investigation conclusion. Because it didn’t lock her up
The same with Benghazi years of looking and they found nothing but still conservatives insist their feeling were correct not the investigation

Jan 6th hearings sworn testimony over and over from Republicans! Dismissed by conservatives and Republicans who’s intelligent response to counter the testimony is just yell or type RINOS

You can go all they back to Clinton and white water Ken star. And don’t forgot The idea that Bill and Hillary Clinton secretly kill their political enemies has circulated in right-wing fever swamps for decades.

Now those right wing conspiracys are GOP mainstream And it seem they have influenced you as well
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it’s kind of easy to say bidens wrongs aren’t that bad, when we refuse to look into any of them. isn’t it?

Jim you only want these things looked into to because your trying to defend trump with your fanatical what about isms based on a feeling

Talk about witch hunts . You have no evidence of wrong doing.. yet conservatives want investigations to support their feelings and their made up versions of events.

Just look at Hillary’s emails they just ignored the investigation conclusion. Because it didn’t lock her up
The same with Benghazi years of looking and they found nothing but still conservatives insist their feeling were correct not the investigation

Jan 6th hearings sworn testimony over and over from Republicans! Dismissed by conservatives and Republicans who’s intelligent response to counter the testimony is just yell or type RINOS

You can go all they back to Clinton and white water Ken star. And don’t forgot The idea that Bill and Hillary Clinton secretly kill their political enemies has circulated in right-wing fever swamps for decades.

Now those right wing conspiracys are GOP mainstream And it seem they have influenced you as well
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i want thinks looked into, because things should be looked into. I want trump looked into. i want biden looked into.

You only care when republicans misbehave. let’s be honest for a second here.

i have demonstrated the ability to criticize my side when they deserve it. You can’t do it.

7,500 posts wayne. And every single one of them says the same
exact thing. Democrats are pure, republicans are evil. Every single post says the same exact thing. Show me one that doesn’t.
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i want thinks looked into, because things should be looked into. I want trump looked into. i want biden looked into.

You only care when republicans misbehave. let’s be honest for a second here.

i have demonstrated the ability to criticize my side when they deserve it. You can’t do it.

7,500 posts wayne. And every single one of them says the same
exact thing. Democrats are pure, republicans are evil. Every single post says the same exact thing. Show me one that doesn’t.
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Question: How do we know that you haven’t kidnapped Dalmatian puppies and are holding them to make yourself a coat?

(Same level of reality as your question; I assume we are playing “what if” games today.)
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Since whataboutism is so popular

What about the time when the GOP bought into the “broken window” theory of crime: that if smaller offenses are accepted, it leads to serious crime. So when Kellyanne breaks the law in WH & taunts “arrest me” to cheers from GOP, is it a surprise that now GOP defends stealing nuclear secrets?

Of course, the “broken window” theory only applies to black and brown people.
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Question: How do we know that you haven’t kidnapped Dalmatian puppies and are holding them to make yourself a coat?

(Same level of reality as your question; I assume we are playing “what if” games today.)
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so the chances that the bidens were selling influence, is no higher than the chances that i slaughter dogs to make coats. one is no more likely than the other.

well,,if the gop takes the house, we will see what happened with the bidens, and we will see whether or not it was appropriate for the fbi to ignore it.

i can live with either outcome. You can’t.
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so the chances that the bidens were selling influence, is no higher than the chances that i slaughter dogs to make coats. one is no more likely than the other.

well,,if the gop takes the house, we will see what happened with the bidens, and we will see whether or not it was appropriate for the fbi to ignore it.

i can live with either outcome. You can’t.
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Poor victim
You’ve ignored the evidence for the past five years about Trump, praised and defended him, his family and administration.
Now you claim to have seen the truth and what you were lead to say and believe is not so bad because whatabout.

And you’re pinning your hopes on Gym Jordan and his ilk.
SAD
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Poor victim
You’ve ignored the evidence for the past five years about Trump, praised and defended him, his family and administration.
Now you claim to have seen the truth and what you were lead to say and believe is not so bad because whatabout.

And you’re pinning your hopes on Gym Jordan and his ilk.
SAD
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i’ve also criticized trump
plenty. but you left that out. you can’t admit, because you cannot admit a single thing that doesn’t serve your agenda. There cannot be one syllable that doesn’t promote liberalism. you guys are by far, the most rabid, partisan, close minded guys here

I never said i’m a victim. my party currently has 47% of the house, 50% of the senate, and more than half the state governorships and legislatures. There’s a 95% chance we expand upon that in november. can’t be a victim if you’re about to
win. but you think the democrats are going to hold the house. because you cannot process a single thing which doesn’t support liberalism.
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Biden has a rape allegation against him. And and his loser son made zillions in ukraine when VP Joe was obama’s point man there. And that’s just a coincidence.


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I hadn't read that Joe Biden made zillions off of Ukraine do you have a link to that?
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I hadn't read that Joe Biden made zillions off of Ukraine do you have a link to that?
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he made a ton of money from a ukrainian energy company at the same time that daddy was obama’s point man in , guess which country? ukraine. there’s no connection there?

the media said the laptop was russian information. until the election. them after the election, they admitted it was legit.

same to you, assuming the gop wins the house, no more burying that story. Hearings and hopefully impeachment’s if they have any spine at all. what’s good for the goose.
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Since whataboutism is so popular


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I think you invented it...congratulate yourself and have another drink:buds:

the trump cult radicalized extremists are really out of control....


Former Democratic presidential candidate Andrew Yang has condemned the FBI’s recent raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, saying the decision “seems political” in nature.

In a series of tweets on Tuesday, Yang, 47, wrote that although he is “no Trump fan,” the raid on the former U.S. president’s Palm Beach residence could be viewed as “unjust persecution” by millions of Americans.

I’m no Trump fan. I want him as far away from the White House as possible. But a fundamental part of his appeal has been that it’s him against a corrupt government establishment. This raid strengthens that case for millions of Americans who will see this as unjust persecution.

Former Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard criticized the FBI’s raid on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence, saying it “changed the country that we grew up in.”

“Now, whatever your views are on Donald Trump, there is no denying that the unprecedented raid on his Palm Beach home earlier this week has set our country on a dangerous new course, and there’s no turning back. The FBI’s raid on Mar-a-Lago changed the country that we grew up in,”

he made a ton of money from a ukrainian energy company at the same time that daddy was obama’s point man in , guess which country? ukraine. there’s no connection there?

the media said the laptop was russian information. until the election. them after the election, they admitted it was legit.

same to you, assuming the gop wins the house, no more burying that story. Hearings and hopefully impeachment’s if they have any spine at all. what’s good for the goose.
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Joe Biden?

Joe Biden?

not sure what you’re asking.
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Joe Biden?

I think hunter refers to him a "the big guy"...and "pedo"

not sure what you’re asking.
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I thought you were saying Joe B made $ off Ukr?

I thought you were saying Joe B made $ off Ukr?

i’m saying his son did. Common sense suggests that there’s some connection between Hunter getting rich there, and joe being obama’s point man there. there are hundreds of countries around the globe, hunter had to get rich in ukraine, , and at that exact time?

those hearings will occur unless the dems keep the house, which is not as unlikely as i’d like, but still unlikely.
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Ok, Yes Hunter is sleazy and used his name to get $ from UKR.

I have never seen any evidence that Joe had anything to do with it.

Ok, Yes Hunter is sleazy and used his name to get $ from UKR.



I thought this was a conspiracy theory?

Ok, Yes Hunter is sleazy and used his name to get $ from UKR.

I have never seen any evidence that Joe had anything to do with it.

Hunters worth a Million dollars! and he made Bazzilons of dollars ya ok

Selling influence really? because he's in a Photo with people


Influence peddling is the practice of using one's influence in government or connections with authorities to obtain favours or preferential treatment for another, usually in return for payment. It is also called traffic of influence or trading in influence.

where Are these payments Biden released his taxes and hunter paid his back taxes and what did these people Buy or receive from the Bidens an audience?

But trump owing the DC hotel where those wishing to influence and gain favors stayed and paid above market rates for Trump rooms

Republicans were good with that

But trump



boom!:tm:

i’m saying his son did. Common sense suggests that there’s some connection between Hunter getting rich there, and joe being obama’s point man there. there are hundreds of countries around the globe, hunter had to get rich in ukraine, , and at that exact time?

those hearings will occur unless the dems keep the house, which is not as unlikely as i’d like, but still unlikely.
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Jim you have no understand of probable cause or innocent until proven guilty.. why is that ?

why do conservatives now demand a hunter investigation

when they had the white house and congress the could have investigated Hunter But the did not


And when the republicans try to investigate Hunter it will no be for the rule of law or seeking the Truth . it will be done because they think they can influence the 2024 election expecting Biden will be running again

its the same reason and play book used during the benghazi hearings
it wasn't about truth or they cared about the 4 americans killed

it was to discredit Hillary because they knew she was going to get the Democratic nomination..

a 1st grader could see it for what it was :cheers:

News Alert: Cincinnati FBI shooter was prolific contributor to Trump’s Truth Social website

Shocking
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Documents show how Trump landed Lincoln Memorial for Fox News event
Trump’s 2020 ‘town hall’ was held inside the memorial, an area where events have long been barred by federal regulations

I guess no influence peddling going on with That
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Documents show how Trump landed Lincoln Memorial for Fox News event
Trump’s 2020 ‘town hall’ was held inside the memorial, an area where events have long been barred by federal regulations

I guess no influence peddling going on with That
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dig deep baby:kewl:

Jim you have no understand

it will no be for the rule of law


a 1st grader could see it for what it was :cheers:



:hihi: what color tee shirt would you like?

i’m saying his son did. Common sense suggests that there’s some connection between Hunter getting rich there, and joe being obama’s point man there. there are hundreds of countries around the globe, hunter had to get rich in ukraine, , and at that exact time?

those hearings will occur unless the dems keep the house, which is not as unlikely as i’d like, but still unlikely.
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Perfect, Gym can demonstrate his commitment to honesty and the rule of law.

Say what you will about President Biden, but there's no question how much he loves America and he'll never commit espionage with our nuclear secrets
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"It doesn't matter what damn lie we tell, so long as we all tell the same damn lie." Trump World this weekend seems to have forgotten that ancient piece of underworld advice ...
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The fact that a Trump lawyer misrepresented something to the DOJ may explain why Trump is having a hard time finding a lawyer on this issue.

He'll be pro se or repped by John Pierce before this is done, just like all the other insurrectionists.
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The fact that a Trump lawyer misrepresented something to the DOJ may explain why Trump is having a hard time finding a lawyer on this issue.

He'll be pro se or repped by John Pierce before this is done, just like all the other insurrectionists.
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Can’t he bring back Rudy, oh yeah the Trump lies cost him his license.

I hope this works out for you guys....I'd hate to see how disappointed you'll be if....well...

Garland didn't sound like a confident person the other day....sounded like someone who knew he'd really stepped in it..

that said....I'm sure trump was selling nuclear secrets that no one had missed from the time he left office till now......

No president has the right to retain presidential records after he or she leaves office," Baron said. "And so it is an extraordinary circumstance if presidential records are found in a former president's residence or anywhere else under his control."

Only conservatives see anything short of a conviction as Trump being vindicated .

Such twisted logic
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Only conservatives see anything short of a conviction as Trump being vindicated .

Such twisted logic

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I thought he was going to be executed?

Have any prominent Republicans—in the Senate, the House, governors—stepped up to remind their supporters, who are also overwhelmingly Trump supporters, to reject lawlessness and violence, and indeed to report disturbing any threats of which they become aware to law enforcement?
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Have any prominent Republicans—in the Senate, the House, governors—stepped up to remind their supporters, who are also overwhelmingly Trump supporters, to reject lawlessness and violence, and indeed to report disturbing any threats of which they become aware to law enforcement?
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so when pro-abortion lefties published the name and address of the schools that Amy Barrett’s kids attend, did you step up to remind us to reject threats and violence against little
kids? Or did you not care, because it’s ok when democrats do it?
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The "law and order" party is spouting some pretty dangerous rhetoric, but when you have a president telling supporters to smack the sh*t out of someone and offering to pay the legal bills what to you expect. When your president suggests he could kill someone on 5th avenue and not be charged, what do you expect from his loyal supporters. When the DOJ tried for months to get everything back, stepping up to issuing subpoena's only to get a Trump lawyer signing a statement stating all documents had been returned, your pretty much left with one option if you want those highly classified documents back. Yet the Talking heads at Fox and in the GOP see this as overstepping and weaponizing the FBI.

so when pro-abortion lefties published the name and address of the schools that Amy Barrett’s kids attend, did you step up to remind us to reject threats and violence against little
kids? Or did you not care, because it’s ok when democrats do it?
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What about……you’re lost in the taint again


Some of us are wannabe oligarchs and others are Major General Smedley Butler’s
Once again we pick sides, it’s obvious which one you would pick.
You would be all in on a Wall Street putsch.
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so when pro-abortion lefties published the name and address of the schools that Amy Barrett’s kids attend,

Not sure how you compare ^^^ above

To elected officials outlandish rhetoric

GOP Trump Loyalists Are Literally Invoking the "Gestapo," “Tyranny” To Discredit FBI

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), another close Trump ally, called the search “totally un-American” and “Gestapo cr*p,” as she called for the DOJ to be “cleaned out.”

Don’t forget about attacking the IRS

Imagine IRS agents descending upon America like a swarm of locusts," Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, warned in an interview with Fox Business. "And by the way, these IRS agents aren't there to go after billionaires. They're there to go after you. They're there to go after your small business. They're there to go after your family."




Oh wait I do because know why !

you do it all the Time comparing things that are not remotely the same.

You can’t control what private citizens say or do. No matter how wrong it is

But we should expect more from our elected officials. Who clearly are looking for votes from those who are actually making and commenting these threats and attacks
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Armed Trump supporters protest outside of FBI office in Phoenix following Mar-a-Lago probe

Yep I said you can’t control what people do on their own

But these people can’t think on their own . They actually think their intimidating the FBI. Because Trump wants them to. With their Cosplay outfit

But conservatives claim men women with a standard picket sighs yell slogans . We’re trying to intimidate SC justices..
It’s comical

Armed Trump supporters protest outside of FBI office in Phoenix following Mar-a-Lago probe

Yep I said you can’t control what people do on their own

But these people can’t think on their own . They actually think their intimidating the FBI. Because Trump wants them to. With their Cosplay outfit

maybe they'll take over a section of Phoenix and call it Chaz or Chop or something....

The "law and order" party is spouting some pretty dangerous rhetoric, .

they need to be silenced and arrested, reeducated it that's even possible,,,,

Well there is no cure for stupid, Trump of course being the most glaring example. He even loves to inadvertently of course, show the public how stupid he truly is. I love his excuse for taking these classified documents, everyone takes work home and like magic anytime anything leaves the Oval Office it’s magically de-classified. Trump never actual ever worked or took national security serious, but maybe his loyal band of followers will buy it. If you can buy Trump won in a landslide, you certainly will accept this BS.

Well there is no cure for stupid, Trump of course being the most glaring example. He even loves to inadvertently of course, show the public how stupid he truly is. I love his excuse for taking these classified documents, everyone takes work home and like magic anytime anything leaves the Oval Office it’s magically de-classified. Trump never actual ever worked or took national security serious, but maybe his loyal band of followers will buy it. If you can buy Trump won in a landslide, you certainly will accept this BS.

^^^this is pretty stupid....

I have heard many defenses of Trump, many excuses for Trump, regarding classified materials at Mar-a-Lago. What I have not heard is, ‘You know? It just doesn’t sound like him. That’s not a violation he would commit.’
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It is amazing to see how bad of a liar he is.

Demanding the FBI return the evidence you said they planted that you declassified. That's some 5 dimensional tic tac toe he’s playing.
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Sen. Rand Paul wants to repeal the Espionage Act amid an investigation into Trump

Seems the chemicals from his years of getting Perms . Have gotten to his Brain
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the trump deranged getting the week off to a great start....:kewl:

Demanding the FBI return the evidence you said they planted that you declassified. That's some 5 dimensional tic tac toe he’s playing.
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you need to stop stealing bad memes....didn't you also state trump appointed the judge that signed his search warrant which must make him guilty?

"Legal experts told USA TODAY judges on the federal district court select magistrate judges. That's how Reinhart was appointed, according to a press release from the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida. The president does not play a role in this process. "

"Magistrate judges are typically appointed "by majority vote of the U.S. district judges" of a court, according to the United States Courts website. They are not appointed by the president, Stephen Saltzburg, professor of law at George Washington University, told USA TODAY in an email.

There is no evidence Trump played a role in Reinhart's appointment."

USA Today Our rating: False
Based on our research, we rate FALSE the claim that Trump appointed Reinhart as a magistrate judge in 2018. Federal district judges in Florida's Southern District appointed Reinhart. Trump had no involvement.

you need to stop stealing bad memes....didn't you also state trump appointed the judge that signed his search warrant which must make him guilty?

"Legal experts told USA TODAY judges on the federal district court select magistrate judges. That's how Reinhart was appointed, according to a press release from the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida. The president does not play a role in this process. "

"Magistrate judges are typically appointed "by majority vote of the U.S. district judges" of a court, according to the United States Courts website. They are not appointed by the president, Stephen Saltzburg, professor of law at George Washington University, told USA TODAY in an email.

There is no evidence Trump played a role in Reinhart's appointment."

USA Today Our rating: False
Based on our research, we rate FALSE the claim that Trump appointed Reinhart as a magistrate judge in 2018. Federal district judges in Florida's Southern District appointed Reinhart. Trump had no involvement.


I'll raise you 1 TDS from Fox news

Judge who green-lit raid at Trump's Mar-a-Lago home donated thousands to Obama
Bruce Reinhart, who reportedly signed off on the raid of Trump's Mar-a-Lago home, previously donated to Obama's campaign and victory fund

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-green-lit-raid-trumps-mar-a-lago-home-donated-thousands-obama

I'll raise you 1 TDS from Fox news



.......?

Trump Says FBI 'Stole' His Passports,

The story will change again in 5 4 3 2 1

Not sure which version this is.

From Trumps team

As we can all relate to, everyone ends up having to bring home their work from time to time,” Solomon read. “American presidents are no different. President Trump, in order to prepare the work for the next day, often took documents, including classified documents, to the residence. He had a standing order … that documents removed from the Oval Office and taken to the residence were deemed to be declassified the moment he removed them.”

Lol
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USA passports are property of the US government.
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A sign that DOJ's MAL search was not solely about getting dox back, but also about potential criminal prosecution will be if DOJ assigns a criminal AUSA to the case, not only a Washington Nat Sec Division lawyer. Bonus points if from Florida US Attorney's Office, which has venue.
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Looks like American’s Mayor now has a bulls eye on is head and he must have known it was coming. Will he take his own advice and follow his leader’s example and just admit guilt by sitting for hours taking the fifth, or will he decide maybe he’d rather avoid some jail time and set himself up for that big book deal by being the guy bringing down the head of the Trump crime family?

On top of Rudy having to appear in GA Court Wednesday, by car or train, he’s also broke. His last check to his ex- bounced. Judith don’t play and took his drunk ass to the cleaners. He’s basically in some version of ‘Midnight Run’ now.

So when interrogated, Rudy will drink the Fifth.
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Don’t for get Graham who also feels he to is above the law that governs all citizens


With claims of. Graham’s lawyers had argued a provision in the Constitution gave him absolute protection against being probed about legislative efforts, but a judge said the provision did not cover the grand jury’s probe. ( he wasn’t calling about legislative efforts )

The judge also rejected Graham's claims “sovereign immunity” protected him from being forced to testify by a state prosecutor.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/madelinehalpert/2022/08/15/lindsey-graham-must-testify-before-georgia-grand-jury-investigating-trump-judge-says/
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USA passports are property of the US government.
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why did the US Government return the US Government property?

I bet he hired Sandy Berger...he's an expert

I hope pete doesn't have a stroke.....

probably selling stuff to the russians....

see...most fox viewers are deranged leftists......

I'm excited for you...it's a great start to your week, I wonder what is so bad that the dems need this distraction?

funniest thing ever written here....hall of fame

don't dash his hopes...he's having a big day

this is comical.....

there was nothing intelligent nor of value in his rant or your reply to him which not surprising....

I'm glad pete is having fun...he's dedicated considerable time to hating trump....this is not the first time he's promised and celebrated the end for trump:hihi:....I guess we'll wait and see.....

I wonder when the loons will hit peak Trump Derangement?

wow...cranky little man:hihi:

leftist like raids....especially with lots of military style assault weapons and when really old people are their target....

cranky internet tough guy :rotflmao:

why?...the pressure is on garland & co to explain this,,, I heard brandon still doesn't know anything about it, he's still trying to shake hands with schumer again

this is gold....belongs on a tee shirt:laugha:

:humpty:

your fantasy narratives usually disappoint you....there have been many

Definitely…he should get two death penalties actually…one for peeing on Russian hookers and one for selling nuclear weapons to other countries…might not be enough punishment to satisfy Pete though
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you getting a little ahead of yourself....

was that the guy with the AR-15 style nail gun? We should ban those......

I bet pete is drinking all weekend.....

celebrating....:buds:

you actually don't know that much at this point, there are leaked details from unnamed sources....those always work out for you:jester:

Hillary would have just cut the top secret label off the top and said .."what does it matter?"....and I don't think she ever had the ability to declassify stuff

if he's really done something so seriously wrong I'm sure he'll be in handcuffs shortly....or worse

‘Sounds about Right’: Ex-CIA Chief Michael Hayden Implies Trump Should Be Executed for Taking Classified Docs

I think you invented it...congratulate yourself and have another drink:buds:

I think hunter refers to him a "the big guy"...and "pedo"

I thought this was a conspiracy theory?

boom!:tm:

dig deep baby:kewl:

:hihi: what color tee shirt would you like?

I hope this works out for you guys....I'd hate to see how disappointed you'll be if....well...

Garland didn't sound like a confident person the other day....sounded like someone who knew he'd really stepped in it..

that said....I'm sure trump was selling nuclear secrets that no one had missed from the time he left office till now......

I thought he was going to be executed?

maybe they'll take over a section of Phoenix and call it Chaz or Chop or something....

they need to be silenced and arrested, reeducated it that's even possible,,,,

the trump deranged getting the week off to a great start....:kewl:

you need to stop stealing bad memes....didn't you also state trump appointed the judge that signed his search warrant which must make him guilty?

"Legal experts told USA TODAY judges on the federal district court select magistrate judges. That's how Reinhart was appointed, according to a press release from the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida. The president does not play a role in this process. "

"Magistrate judges are typically appointed "by majority vote of the U.S. district judges" of a court, according to the United States Courts website. They are not appointed by the president, Stephen Saltzburg, professor of law at George Washington University, told USA TODAY in an email.

There is no evidence Trump played a role in Reinhart's appointment."

USA Today Our rating: False
Based on our research, we rate FALSE the claim that Trump appointed Reinhart as a magistrate judge in 2018. Federal district judges in Florida's Southern District appointed Reinhart. Trump had no involvement.

.......?

why did the US Government return the US Government property?

^^^this is pretty stupid....

Don't worry Scott, you're always at your best............

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMRX-Wj2WOk

^^^B for effort :bl:

hey, now that trump has called Garland's bluff and asked for the release of the affidavit....I wonder what Garland will do?

hey, now that trump has called Garland's bluff and asked for the release of the affidavit....I wonder what Garland will do?

Wow you think that’s calling garlands Bluff.

Trump just said it . he filed no legal motion to have it released

Asked whether the former president would file a motion to release the affidavit, in opposition to federal prosecutors,

Trump attorney Christina Bobb told Fox News host Laura Ingraham that she wasn't "aware of any effort to oppose" unsealing the affidavit.

That’s not what was Asked. She asked if the former president would file a motion to release the affidavit,


There is a huge difference but the faithful take the bait again
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Wow you think that’s calling garlands Bluff.


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sounds like Garland is afraid :laugha:...probably lots of nuclear secret info in there


(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that the Biden Department of Justice opposes its request that the court unseal the affidavit used to justify the controversial raid on the home of former President Trump. The Justice Department was ordered by Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart to respond by 5:00 pm today to Judicial Watch’s Motion to Unseal the warrant and supporting materials behind the FBI raid of President Donald Trump’s home in Mar-a-Lago. In its filing, the Justice Department alleged that releasing the affidavit would “cause significant and irreparable damage” to its ongoing criminal investigation.

sounds like Garland is afraid :laugha:...probably lots of nuclear secret info in there


(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that the Biden Department of Justice opposes its request that the court unseal the affidavit used to justify the controversial raid on the home of former President Trump. The Justice Department was ordered by Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart to respond by 5:00 pm today to Judicial Watch’s Motion to Unseal the warrant and supporting materials behind the FBI raid of President Donald Trump’s home in Mar-a-Lago. In its filing, the Justice Department alleged that releasing the affidavit would “cause significant and irreparable damage” to its ongoing criminal investigation.

When the DOJ writes something in a court filing, you pay attention to every word.

Court filing yesterday, re: Mar-a-Lago search: "This investigation implicates highly classified materials"

We know you think national security is a joke, why would we worry about a guy who hauled off a horde of top secret documents who:

1. Disclosed to the president of the Philippines on the phone the location of our nuclear subs off N. Korea.

2. Blabbed to the press UK classified info about the Manchester bombing.

3. Confiscated and kept his interpreter’s notes after his private meeting with Putin.

4. Posted a video on twitter of Seal Team from Al Asad airbase revealing their faces and location.

5. Tweeted a classified photo of Iran’s Imam Khomeini Spaceport.

6. Disclosed sources and methods of ally’s intel (Israel) to Russian diplomats HIS VERY FIRST MONTH in office.

What possible reason would he have to think stealing and storing classified documents at his house is a good thing for America?
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Scott is really only concerned about when he can slap what he thinks is a funny one liner.

The right is more outrage over the FBI taking his passport and then Returning it as evidence of FBI overreach

Than they are he had classified documents when he said he didn’t have any then claimed stuff was planted then claimed he declassified them and he is still lying about the election being stolen ..

Thats him being dishonest as usual and his followers being equal dishonest

Convinced it’s the deep state hard at work
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We know you think national security is a joke, why would we worry about a guy who hauled off a horde of top secret documents who:


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this is not what happened....trump and melania did not load a bunch of boxes full of sensitive documents into the back of their station wagon and head off florida....I guess this was what was left after trump flushed boxes of other sensitive and incriminating information down what must have been a very large toilet....

those boxes were transported to florida by????

Court filing yesterday, re: Mar-a-Lago search: "This investigation implicates highly classified materials"


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thursday

Bogus defense # (can’t count them all): my chief of staff bungled the packing process in January 2021, which totally explains why I refused to give back the documents for 18 months. And gave back some and lied that I had given back all marked classified. Get it?
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Bogus defense # (can’t count them all): my chief of staff bungled the packing process in January 2021, which totally explains why I refused to give back the documents for 18 months. And gave back some and lied that I had given back all marked classified. Get it?
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It is amazing to see how bad of a liar he is.

Yet his supporters believe him.

Yet his supporters believe him.

have they arrested him yet?

have they arrested him yet?

Did you know there is a process and laws that have to be followed?

I would have thought you know that.

Did you know there is a process and laws that have to be followed?

I would have thought you know that.

I’m pretty sure they could arrest him if he was committing espionage
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I’m pretty sure they could arrest him if he was committing espionage
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Gathering evidence is obviously the first step, in light of this involving a former president, it’s got to be a lock regardless of any charges coming.

Former president Donald Trump and close aides have spent the eight days since the FBI searched his Florida home rushing to assemble a team of respected defense lawyers.

But the answer they keep hearing is “no.”

“Everyone is saying no,” said a prominent Republican lawyer, who like some others spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss confidential conversations.

How many lawyers for Trump have been convicted, disbarred, or are currently being investigated for their crimes?

The former president’s current legal team includes a Florida insurance lawyer who’s never had a federal case, a past general counsel for a parking-garage company and a former host at far-right One America News

Maybe Scott will represent him
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said a prominent Republican lawyer, who like some others spoke on the condition of anonymity


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:musc::kewl:

:musc::kewl:

Do you even believe those who testify under oath against you know who ..

Or is it all anti Thumpers and lies
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Do you even believe those who testify under oath against you know who ..

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oh absolutely.....I believe that chick that said trump choked out a couple of secret service people than tried to take over the limo....that was definitely true

It’s a con.

Twice impeached angry old Floridian bombarded his supporters with more than 100 emails asking for money based on the FBI’s search of his Florida Mar-a-Lago Club for classified materials last week.

They paid off.
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It’s a con.

Twice impeached angry old Floridian bombarded his supporters with more than 100 emails asking for money based on the FBI’s search of his Florida Mar-a-Lago Club for classified materials last week.

They paid off.
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If there were legit reasons for the raid, and if it leads to a criminal prosecution (I don't think the left ever stops until they get exactly that, and there's probably grounds for one if they never stop digging), it's a win for them in terms of killing off Trump. If it can reasonably be construed to be politically motivated (and let's be honest, the left has done that with the DOJ a few times since 2009), it's a huge win for the GOP, and a stupid move by democrats.

If there were legit reasons for the raid, and if it leads to a criminal prosecution (I don't think the left ever stops until they get exactly that, and there's probably grounds for one if they never stop digging), it's a win for them in terms of killing off Trump. If it can reasonably be construed to be politically motivated (and let's be honest, the left has done that with the DOJ a few times since 2009), it's a huge win for the GOP, and a stupid move by democrats.

You consider it a stupid move to keep a lawless power hungry autocratic want-to-be dictator out of the White House. I applaud Liz Chaney for having the backbone lacking from the current GOP leadership in condemning Trumps attempts to hold on to power by illegal means. I hope she succeeds in her statement saying she will do everything in her power to keep Trump from ever getting back in the White House, I wouldn’t count her out if she decides to run. I doubt she would pull enough votes from Trumps crazy base, but the debates alone will be worth the price of admission.

You consider it a stupid move to keep a lawless power hungry autocratic want-to-be dictator out of the White House. I applaud Liz Chaney for having the backbone lacking from the current GOP leadership in condemning Trumps attempts to hold on to power by illegal means. I hope she succeeds in her statement saying she will do everything in her power to keep Trump from ever getting back in the White House, I wouldn’t count her out if she decides to run. I doubt she would pull enough votes from Trumps crazy base, but the debates alone will be worth the price of admission.

You guys are amazing...

Do you know how to read? Read my post. I said it was a win for the left it was legit, and a stupid move "IF it was politically motivated".

Can you not grasp what I'm saying there? Is that going too fast for you?

If any Republican said "one plus one equals two", I think some of you would reflexively say he was wrong.

Put down the Kool Aid, take a few breaths, and THINK.

You guys are amazing...

Do you know how to read? .



reading, writing and arithmetic are clearly a struggle for these geniuses...but we can trust their opinions on important and often complex matters :spin:

If any Republican said "one plus one equals two", I think some of you would reflexively say he was wrong.

.

that's a fact....Jack!

reading, writing and arithmetic are clearly a struggle for these geniuses...but we can trust their opinions on important and often complex matters :spin:

Jim: if the raid was legit, it's a win for the Democrats. If it was purely politically motivated, it's a stupid move for the democrats.

GS: Oh, so you're saying it's a stupid move to keep a lawless power hungry autocratic want-to-be dictator out of the White House

He's claiming I said something, which I never, ever came close to saying. FFS I said I agree with the raid, as long as there was legitimate just cause. Even when I agree with them, I'm wrong. It's really, really something to behold.

Jim: if the raid was legit, it's a win for the Democrats. If it was purely politically motivated, it's a stupid move for the democrats.

GS: Oh, so you're saying it's a stupid move to keep a lawless power hungry autocratic want-to-be dictator out of the White House

He's claiming I said something, which I never, ever came close to saying. FFS I said I agree with the raid, as long as there was legitimate just cause. Even when I agree with them, I'm wrong. It's really, really something to behold.

it's because they are following the narrative pumped into their little brains on a daily basis...regardless of what you say..they are going to repeat whet they've been programmed to say....:bl:....

.regardless of what you say..they are going to repeat whet they've been programmed to say....:bl:....

Exactly. They constantly do exactly that. They never respond to what you say, but to what CNN tells them we're saying...

not only that....how is it that they are worried that trump can somehow get elected again...maybe they know they are full of.....you know...

not only that....how is it that they are worried that trump can somehow get elected again...maybe they know they are full of.....you know...

as of right now, i do believe there’s a chance he could. if he wants to run, i don’t think anyone would beat him in the primary, do you?

and while i don’t think he could
win a general
election again, you never know. i didn’t think he had a prayer in 2016, i was certain the stock market would be far lower then it is right now, so i often feel like i don’t know anything anymore.
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as of right now, i do believe there’s a chance he could. if he wants to run, i don’t think anyone would beat him in the primary, do you?

and while i don’t think he could
win a general
election again, you never know. i didn’t think he had a prayer in 2016, i was certain the stock market would be far lower then it is right now, so i often feel like i don’t know anything anymore.
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don't honestly know but if you listen to the left.. the only people who would vote for him are a crazed right wing fanatics...can't possibly be enough of them to possibly get him elected but for some reason they are working very hard to ensure he can't run, you'd think they'd be begging for him to run....Brandon supposedly got more that 80 million votes last time and he is and was a complete dud....any democrat should be able to trounce trump but for some reason they are afraid

don't honestly know but if you listen to the left.. the only people who would vote for him are a crazed right wing fanatics...can't possibly be enough of them to possibly get him elected but for some reason they are working very hard to ensure he can't run, you'd think they'd be begging for him to run....Brandon supposedly got more that 80 million votes last time and he is and was a complete dud....any democrat should be able to trounce trump but for some reason they are afraid

Im with you, if i was a democrat, i want trump to run way more then i want someone like desantis.

He is literally the antichrist to them.
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Look at the candidates Trump and the Trumplican party have supported for Secretary of State in states.
All election deniers.
States that have given their legislatures the ability to disregard the popular vote.
You think our experiment will survive a organized attack?
It’s dependent on honorable people playing by the rules.
Once that’s gone it’s over.
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Trump Organization: Allen Weisselberg pleads guilty to tax crimes

these are the people the IRS will be going after unless you listen to republicans

You guys are amazing...

Do you know how to read? Read my post. I said it was a win for the left it was legit, and a stupid move "IF it was politically motivated".

Can you not grasp what I'm saying there? Is that going too fast for you?

If any Republican said "one plus one equals two", I think some of you would reflexively say he was wrong.

Put down the Kool Aid, take a few breaths, and THINK.


do you ever read your own posts its like you wear flip flops when you type you make one statement then cancel it in your next

I don't think the left ever stops until they get exactly that, and there's probably grounds for one if they never stop digging.. then you move on to another republican talking point " and let's be honest, the left has done that with the DOJ a few times since 2009)" yep that's a honest statement LOL


the left or the DOJ hasn't had to dig once!

trumps dug his own Holes and the democrats are looking in all of them ...

it's only the cult and closet supporters who think. he's the victim:kewl:

do you ever read your own posts its like you wear flip flops when you type you make one statement then cancel it in your next

I don't think the left ever stops until they get exactly that, and there's probably grounds for one if they never stop digging.. then you move on to another republican talking point " and let's be honest, the left has done that with the DOJ a few times since 2009)" yep that's a honest statement LOL


the left or the DOJ hasn't had to dig once!

trumps dug his own Holes and the democrats are looking in all of them ...

it's only the cult and closet supporters who think. he's the victim:kewl:

i’ve said the same thing twice. if there was just cause for the raid, good for the left. if it was a politically motivated hit job, bad for the left.

do you even disagree with what i just said?

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then you move on to another republican talking point " and let's be honest, the left has done that with the DOJ a few times since 2009)" yep that's a honest statement LOL


m:kewl:

Right wing talking points?

Obamas IRS targeted conservative groups until they got caught

The FBI knowingly deceived the FISA court to get surveillance on Carter Paige. Who, it turns out, didn't do anything wrong. But they didn't tell the court that the Steele dossier was debunked, nor that it was political opposition research. The texts between FBI agents (Strzok and what's her name) showed a clear personal hatred of Trump.

And now Bidens own FBI director, says he deeply concerned with the way the FBI handled the Hunter Biden laptop events.

That doesn't mean that they didn't have every reason in the world to raid Trumps home. But the DOJ has a recent history of allowing itself to be used as a political weapon against the out of power party.

You think it's flip flopping when I say two things can be true at the same time. It's possible that the DOJ has made politically motivated mistakes, and at the same time, it's possible Trump deserved this.

Why do you assume that's flip flopping? Why can't they both be true at the same time? Please explain...

And now Bidens own FBI director, says he deeply concerned with the way the FBI handled the Hunter Biden laptop events.
..

That is not what Wray said.
From a politico article, which has a bunch of quotes. Wray was concerned about a particular agents social media tweets NOT the FBI investigation.



Wray seemed to raise doubts that Thibault was working at any recent time on issues related to Hunter Biden. The FBI chief said that investigation, reportedly focused on tax issues and potential foreign influence related to Hunter Biden’s business ties, is being run by the Bureau’s Baltimore Field Office, which handles matters related to Delaware.

The Biden administration has permitted Trump’s appointee as U.S. attorney for Delaware, David Weiss, to stay on to complete the probe of the president’s son.

That is not what Wray said.
From a politico article, which has a bunch of quotes. Wray was concerned about a particular agents social media tweets NOT the FBI investigation.



Wray seemed to raise doubts that Thibault was working at any recent time on issues related to Hunter Biden. The FBI chief said that investigation, reportedly focused on tax issues and potential foreign influence related to Hunter Biden’s business ties, is being run by the Bureau’s Baltimore Field Office, which handles matters related to Delaware.

The Biden administration has permitted Trump’s appointee as U.S. attorney for Delaware, David Weiss, to stay on to complete the probe of the president’s son.

WHen did Wray say Thibault had no connection whatsoever to Hunter Biden? He was the assistant special agent in charge of the DC office until recently, now he's on leave. Shocker.

Bryan, what does it say to you, that all of big tech and the lefty media buried this story until the election (saying that anyone who discussed it was spreading Russian disinformation), and then after the election, they all said "oh by the way, it was legit". Is that all a random coincidence? Or was it obviously an attempt to help Biden win?

WHen did Wray say Thibault had no connection whatsoever to Hunter Biden? He was the assistant special agent in charge of the DC office until recently, now he's on leave. Shocker.

Bryan, what does it say to you, that all of big tech and the lefty media buried this story until the election (saying that anyone who discussed it was spreading Russian disinformation), and then after the election, they all said "oh by the way, it was legit". Is that all a random coincidence? Or was it obviously an attempt to help Biden win?

Flip flop
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Flip flop
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I don't think you know what flip flop means.

seems Trump is more interested in looking like he wants the affidavit released — or more aptly, in making the Justice Department, which regularly opposes releasing documents in ongoing investigations, look like it’s hiding something.

Yet. Trump: Release the full affidavit! Trump’s lawyers in court: Meh.

Classic Trump
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I don't think you know what flip flop means.

You flip flop from one topic to the next or just insert a topic that’s no one is even talking about would hop scotch be a better comparison


Ps Carter Page was the only one of four initial suspects in the Russia investigation who was never charged or convicted.

Wow that’s how the system supposed to work
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