https://www.foxnews.com/world/german-climate-change-activists-splash-mashed-potatoes-monet-painting

A lot of climate protesters aren’t too bright

https://www.greenmatters.com/climate-action/milk-pour-protest
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A lot of climate protesters aren’t too bright

https://www.greenmatters.com/climate-action/milk-pour-protest
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this is a sincere question…isn’t it bad for cows not to milk them? doesn’t it hurt them to not be milked?

this is a sincere question…isn’t it bad for cows not to milk them? doesn’t it hurt them to not be milked?

No idea, but I do know it’s idiotic to dump perfectly good food.
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No idea, but I do know it’s idiotic to dump perfectly good food.
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you’re saying pouring out milk won’t restore the glaciers?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/german-climate-change-activists-splash-mashed-potatoes-monet-painting

You do know the art is protected from just such an event. Or do you not understand or believe the link between the animal agriculture and global warming? This is the perfect set up for Scott, we will all be asked if we are driving our electric vehicles on the way to buy our all veggie diet requirements.

You do know the art is protected from just such an event. Or do you not understand or believe the link between the animal agriculture and global warming? This is the perfect set up for Scott, we will all be asked if we are driving our electric vehicles on the way to buy our all veggie diet requirements.

I didn't know the paintings were protected, until the environmental terrorists started doing this. The fact that the art is protected, makes their actions MORE stupid, if that's even possible.

you're right, I don't understand the link between animal agriculture and global warming, I know what your side is claiming, but I don't know what's fact.

Sorry if I'm not planning to become a vegan on the say-so of those who think the solution is to throw tomato soup on a Van Gough.

You do know the art is protected from just such an event.

but apparently not protected from miscreant leftists with soup....

https://www.foxnews.com/world/german-climate-change-activists-splash-mashed-potatoes-monet-painting

Your funny..

You didn’t start a single post about Jan6th ?

This is the 2nd soup incident this month aka peaceful protest

And apparently it got your goat.. to funny

FYI I searched Gen Flynn Re Awakening tour on Fox

Last story was 2 months ago

And it was reporting victim hood

New York pastor and ReAwaken tour host say they were harassed by prosecutors

Guess that’s why you never heard of them
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I didn't know the paintings were protected, until the environmental terrorists started doing this. The fact that the art is protected, makes their actions MORE stupid, if that's even possible.

you're right, I don't understand the link between animal agriculture and global warming, I know what your side is claiming, but I don't know what's fact.

Sorry if I'm not planning to become a vegan on the say-so of those who think the solution is to throw tomato soup on a Van Gough.


until the environmental terrorists Started doing This

Yep keep insisting you haven’t been radicalized


The fact that the art is protected, makes their actions MORE stupid, if that's even possible.

Your comment proves it is possible
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until the environmental terrorists Started doing This

Yep keep insisting you haven’t been radicalized


The fact that the art is protected, makes their actions MORE stupid, if that's even possible.

Your comment proves it is possible
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they’re attempting to destroy priceless art, unless we meet their political
demands. that’s a terrorist.

they’re attempting to destroy priceless art, unless we meet their political
demands. that’s a terrorist.

If they know the art has glass in front of it protecting it how are they attempting to destroy it?

I didn't know the paintings were protected, until the environmental terrorists started doing this. The fact that the art is protected, makes their actions MORE stupid, if that's even possible.



they’re attempting to destroy priceless art, unless we meet their political
demands. that’s a terrorist.

So you admit the painting was protected but you still believe that by throwing mashed pot. at the art they're attempting to destroy the art?

Seems like a contradictory statement.

So you admit the painting was protected but you still believe that by throwing mashed pot. at the art they're attempting to destroy the art?

Seems like a contradictory statement.

yes, i’m sure their intent was to destroy it. they’re not very bright, you see.

So you admit the painting was protected but you still believe that by throwing mashed pot. at the art they're attempting to destroy the art?

Seems like a contradictory statement.

not if they didn’t know the art was protected. the geniuses who threw tomato soup on a painting last week, yelled “what’s more important! life or art?”.

that suggests they believed they were destroying the art.

if they were rational, they’d be republicans.

Are the oil companies going to respond?
Are any people going to immediately halt using petroleum products because of this?
Are Investments going to shift away from oil investments?

Why is it so hard to just say they’re idiots? They threw potatoes at a painting and glued themselves to the wall…..there’s not a lot that’s more idiotic than that. :rolleyes:
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Are the oil companies going to respond?
Are any people going to immediately halt using petroleum products because of this?
Are Investments going to shift away from oil investments?

Why is it so hard to just say they’re idiots? They threw potatoes at a painting and glued themselves to the wall…..there’s not a lot that’s more idiotic than that. :rolleyes:
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you can look this up…the group doing this, is funded by an heiress to the Getty fortune! so she feels guilty. i bet not so guilty that she gave her inheritance away.

…..there’s not a lot that’s more idiotic than that. :rolleyes:

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well, there's chaining yourself to your friends across a highway....pulling a statue down on top of yourself or others.....setting yourself on fire....chasing someone with an AR who is a really good shot.....

well, there's chaining yourself to your friends across a highway....pulling a statue down on top of yourself or others.....setting yourself on fire....chasing someone with an AR who is a really good shot.....

You’ll notice I left a little wiggle room
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they’re attempting to destroy priceless art, unless we meet their political
demands. that’s a terrorist.

And that's what you think is actually happening> that is Amazing

Why is it so hard to just say they’re idiots?
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That is a very deep and key question, and gets to the heart of where the left is right now. None of them will ever just say "my god they're idiots". Because as Jordan Peterson says, they don't merely "believe" in liberalism. They are enslaved by it. The Narrative can never be wrong.

He calls it "the pathology of ideological possession", and he's right. They are literally possessed by liberalism.

And that's what you think is actually happening> that is Amazing

Ok, Einstein, how come you didn't tell us what's actually happening. The group that did this last week, as they threw tomato soup on priceless paintings, yelled "what's more important, art or life"?

Why did they yell that as they were doing what they did?

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:scream:

Are the oil companies going to respond?
Are any people going to immediately halt using petroleum products because of this?
Are Investments going to shift away from oil investments?

Why is it so hard to just say they’re idiots? They threw potatoes at a painting and glued themselves to the wall…..there’s not a lot that’s more idiotic than that. :rolleyes:
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jim thinks they are terrorist.. LOL but protesting in a state house armed is Freedom :kewl:

It's not something that's going to change what oil companies or Governments do or don't do .. and I doubt they think that was the objective .

But their stunt did what it was intended to do It drew some attention to an issue they clearly care about .. and call it dumb or smart it matters little to me
it's not like we haven't seen this style of protest before Across the planet

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And that's what you think is actually happening> that is Amazing

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because throwing stuff on priceless art is not trying to destroy priceless art?

jim thinks they are terrorist.. LOL but protesting in a state house armed is Freedom :kewl:



which one was a crime and which one wasn't?

I wish they glued their faces to the wall....

not if they didn’t know the art was protected. the geniuses who threw tomato soup on a painting last week, yelled “what’s more important! life or art?”.

that suggests they believed they were destroying the art. actually you are totally wrong as they said they knew they weren't destroying the art.

“I want to make one thing perfectly clear, we did no damage to the painting whatsoever,” Phoebe Plummer, a climate activist who, along with Anna Holland, threw the soup at the famous painting and then glued their hands to the gallery floor on October 14.

if they were rational, they’d be republicans. That is funny as the Rep. deny science and do nothing. Seems like they are smarter than most of the R party.

You can't help yourself?

Ok, Einstein, how come you didn't tell us what's actually happening. The group that did this last week, as they threw tomato soup on priceless paintings, yelled "what's more important, art or life"?

Why did they yell that as they were doing what they did?

But you're 100% wrong as they knew the art was protected

“We’re not asking the question, should everyone be throwing soup at paintings?” said Plummer. “What we’re doing is getting the conversation going so we can ask the questions that matter.”

You can't help yourself?

"“I want to make one thing perfectly clear, we did no damage to the painting whatsoever,”

Which again Paul, tells us nothing about what they set out to do. Real MENSA candidates.

They're clueless idiots, that's all they are.

The wussification and dumbing-down of todays kids, is going to serve my kids quite nicely. My kids work their butts off and know how to take "no" for an answer sometimes. These kids will have no chance against my kids in the real world. None.

But you're 100% wrong as they knew the art was protected

“We’re not asking the question, should everyone be throwing soup at paintings?” said Plummer. “What we’re doing is getting the conversation going so we can ask the questions that matter.”

"But you're 100% wrong as they knew the art was protected"

How do you know what they knew, when they threw soup on the painting.

"“We’re not asking the question, should everyone be throwing soup at paintings?” said Plummer."

No, the question we're asking is, "did the bedroom you grew up in, have lead paint on your walls"?

"What we’re doing is getting the conversation going"

That's self flattery. That conversation has been going for 40 years, this just makes that side look like laughing stocks.

Its classic was just watching Fox news show Outnumbered

Must be fox's answer to the view I guess

And one of the host referred to the Mashed potato Stunt as eco Terrorist ..

it just a coincidence Jim made the same claim :rotflmao:

[QUOTE=wdmso;1234476]

And that's what you think is actually happening> that is Amazing

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because throwing stuff on priceless art is not trying to destroy priceless art?

So you think thats was their plan Ya ok!! I bet you think there terrorist along with Jim

No, the question we're asking is, "did the bedroom you grew up in, have lead paint on your walls"?


.

heheh...that's pretty funny:kewl:

"“I want to make one thing perfectly clear, we did no damage to the painting whatsoever,”

Which again Paul, tells us nothing about what they set out to do. Real MENSA candidates.

They're clueless idiots, that's all they are.

The wussification and dumbing-down of todays kids, is going to serve my kids quite nicely. My kids work their butts off and know how to take "no" for an answer sometimes. These kids will have no chance against my kids in the real world. None.

Now you sound like your father and grandfather and mine .. who i bet laughed when these kids tried to change the world... Jim like it or not these Kids have commitment .

Now you sound like your father and grandfather

Well they said others can't compete because of their skin color, which is absurd because it says NOTHING. I say these kids can't compete because they're stupid, lazy, entitled, snowflakes, which is a lot more representative about future prospects, than skin color.

A liberal, saying it's wrong to judge people on skin color, that's a riot. It's all your side does.

Well they said others can't compete because of their skin color, which is absurd because it says NOTHING. I say these kids can't compete because they're stupid, lazy, entitled, snowflakes, which is a lot more representative about future prospects, than skin color.

A liberal, saying it's wrong to judge people on skin color, that's a riot. It's all your side does.

What power you must have, to know all there is about a protester you've never met and if you answered honestly (doubtful), you know absolutely nothing about. There have been and always will be, hard working, very successful young and old participating in non-violent civil protests. You are a mirror of the rhetoric that comes out of the far right, judgement by action, skin color, age, race yada yada yada.

What power you must have, to know all there is about a protester you've never met and if you answered honestly (doubtful), you know absolutely nothing about. There have been and always will be, hard working, very successful young and old participating in non-violent civil protests. You are a mirror of the rhetoric that comes out of the far right, judgement by action, skin color, age, race yada yada yada.


"to know all there is about a protester you've never met "

you never post assumptions or opinions about people you've never met? Hmmm?

"judgement by action, skin color, age, race yada yada yada"

Yes, the right is more concerned with race than the left. Please share more wisdom with us! The left NEVER thinks about race! NEVER!

"“I want to make one thing perfectly clear, we did no damage to the painting whatsoever,”

Which again Paul, tells us nothing about what they set out to do. Real MENSA candidates.

They're clueless idiots, that's all they are.

The wussification and dumbing-down of todays kids, is going to serve my kids quite nicely. My kids work their butts off and know how to take "no" for an answer sometimes. These kids will have no chance against my kids in the real world. None.

Not sure if you have been to a world class museum/gallery but you can see the glass in front of the paintings.

Totally agree it was stupid but they don't care about that. They want publicity - which they got. They prob. could care less about making $ and are more worried about saving the planet.

They prob. could care less about making $ working, and are more worried about saving the planet.


Fixed it for you...

Jim like it or not these Kids have commitment .



protestors who set themselves on fire have commitment....

these are just clowns looking for attention....:kewl:

protestors who set themselves on fire have commitment....

these are just clowns looking for attention....:kewl:

that is true.
However the person who started this thread is the only clown looking for Attention ... with his daily fox outrage

Yet it's you guys who are yelling they are terrorist! trying to destroy Art with a can of soup and some superglue Hard Logic to argue with:eyes:

"to know all there is about a protester you've never met "

you never post assumptions or opinions about people you've never met? Hmmm?

"judgement by action, skin color, age, race yada yada yada"

Yes, the right is more concerned with race than the left. Please share more wisdom with us! The left NEVER thinks about race! NEVER!




of course you can't comprehend the meaning of the photo I posted with these Kids sitting on that counter.. in response to your statement

the wussification and dumbing-down of todays kids (even though both incidents happened in england and germany not in the States )


"Now you sound like your father and grandfather and mine .. who I bet laughed when these kids tried to change the world..."

or is this just more the wussification and dumbing-down of today's kids or were the people in the photos protesting with the flowers also terrorists and enemies of America or would you just repeat your statement

"these kids can't compete because they're stupid, lazy, entitled, snowflakes,":doh:

you can look this up…the group doing this, is funded by an heiress to the Getty fortune! so she feels guilty. i bet not so guilty that she gave her inheritance away.

I did Jim

Aileen Getty has not personally worked in the oil industry and has poured much of her fortune into philanthropic ventures related to the climate crisis

its an actual foundation .. by the way not a fraguldent one that was Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Foundation Funds for you know who


She co-founded the non-profit Climate Emergency Fund (CEF) in 2019 and has reportedly donated $1m of her personal wealth to be used to support environmental activist groups, including Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion.

So with your logic she participated in the defacing of these art works


another little bit of information

Extinction Rebellion spokesperson Brad Homewood told the Guardian that they did it knowing it would not damage the artwork. "Our intention was always to glue on to the perspex protecting it," he said.

I did Jim

Aileen Getty has not personally worked in the oil industry and has poured much of her fortune into philanthropic ventures related to the climate crisis

its an actual foundation .. by the way not a fraguldent one that was Court-Ordered $2 Million For Illegally Using Foundation Funds for you know who


She co-founded the non-profit Climate Emergency Fund (CEF) in 2019 and has reportedly donated $1m of her personal wealth to be used to support environmental activist groups, including Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion.

So with your logic she participated in the defacing of these art works


another little bit of information

Extinction Rebellion spokesperson Brad Homewood told the Guardian that they did it knowing it would not damage the artwork. "Our intention was always to glue on to the perspex protecting it," he said.

"Aileen Getty has not personally worked in the oil industry"

Which is why I said "heiress" and not "CEO".

She's an oil billionaire paying people to cause unrest to get off fossil fuels. In other words, she's an unprincipled dingbat.

she's an unprincipled dingbat.?

Why

Just because she’s an heir to an oil industry fortune doesn't mean you necessarily approve of the family business.

If that’s your reason. It doesn’t make a lot of sense ?
Seems she does a lot with her money .. besides a million dollars to one foundation


Getty is HIV positive since 1985 and works for AIDS awareness causes, along with former mother-in-law Elizabeth Taylor. In November 2016, she joined the board of amfAR, the Foundation for AIDS Research.

2013, Getty founded Aileen Getty Foundation, of which she is currently the President. Earlier in 2005, she also founded Gettlove, a nonprofit organization created to acknowledge, house, and sustain housing for numerous homeless individuals who are part of the Los Angeles community.


Maybe I should accuse anyone who donated money to Trump . Or the republicans party That they should be considered accomplice’s . In his attempts to steal a national election
While also calling them unprincipled dingbats .

The unprincipled being True
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Maybe I should accuse anyone who donated money to Trump . Or the republicans party That they should be considered accomplice’s . In his attempts to steal a national election
While also calling them unprincipled dingbats .
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Then you'd sound like Pete

she's an unprincipled dingbat.?

Why

Just because she’s an heir to an oil industry fortune doesn't mean you necessarily approve of the family business.

If that’s your reason. It doesn’t make a lot of sense ?
Seems she does a lot with her money .. besides a million dollars to one foundation


Getty is HIV positive since 1985 and works for AIDS awareness causes, along with former mother-in-law Elizabeth Taylor. In November 2016, she joined the board of amfAR, the Foundation for AIDS Research.

2013, Getty founded Aileen Getty Foundation, of which she is currently the President. Earlier in 2005, she also founded Gettlove, a nonprofit organization created to acknowledge, house, and sustain housing for numerous homeless individuals who are part of the Los Angeles community.


Maybe I should accuse anyone who donated money to Trump . Or the republicans party That they should be considered accomplice’s . In his attempts to steal a national election
While also calling them unprincipled dingbats .

The unprincipled being True
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My god man, if you take (and keep) billions from oil, then donate it to environmental nuts to protest oil, then that's the definition of having no principles.

If she doesn't approve of the family business, and she actually holds that s a principle, she should turn down the money. If she takes the money, she should shut up.

You don't know what a "principle" is. You actually don't know.

Maybe I should accuse anyone who donated money to Trump . Or the republicans party That they should be considered accomplice’s . In his attempts to steal a national election
While also calling them unprincipled dingbats .

The unprincipled being True
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WHY ISN'T THAT WHATABOUT-ISM?

And stupid whatabout-ism, at that?

WHY ISN'T THAT WHATABOUT-ISM?

And stupid whatabout-ism, at that?

Keep running away from the Truth it’s like running away from your own shadow
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My god man, if you take (and keep) billions from oil, then donate it to environmental nuts to protest oil, then that's the definition of having no principles.

If she doesn't approve of the family business, and she actually holds that s a principle, she should turn down the money. If she takes the money, she should shut up.

You don't know what a "principle" is. You actually don't know.

Classic Jim it’s her fault she was born into a family who made money on oil . And somehow she’s a hypocrite for using that money to fight climate change.

I know one thing . Jim you’re not a principled person. Your twisted logic make that obvious

You do know the business was sold in 1984?
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Keep running away from the Truth it’s like running away from your own shadow
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can’t we just agree that if you can engage in what about-ism, others can too?

Classic Jim it’s her fault she was born into a family who made money on oil . And somehow she’s a hypocrite for using that money to fight climate change.

I know one thing . Jim you’re not a principled person. Your twisted logic make that obvious

You do know the business was sold in 1984?
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classic wayne missed the point. or lied

Never even hinted it’s her fault what family she was born into.

but either oil is ok, of its evil. it cannot be both. If it’s ok, it’s fine for her to enjoy her money. if oil is diabolical, she shouldn’t want the proceeds of that diabolical industry.

can’t have it both ways. Lefties always want it both ways.

if i inherited a billion dolllars from dogfighting, and have $100 a year to PETA while living in mansions and flying in a private jet, that would make me an unprincipled dingbat.

classic wayne missed the point. or lied

Not really you re enforced what I said

it’s fine for her to enjoy her money. if oil is diabolical, she shouldn’t want the proceeds of that diabolical industry.


Jim if you inherited millions from dog fighting Bad example but it happened to be legal when the money was made

Who cares . You inherited it. It would not be your responsibility to feel guilty or make amends For wealth you had no part in creating
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It would not be your responsibility to feel guilty or make amends For (something) you had no part in creating


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does this apply to white privilege etc.....?

does this apply to white privilege etc.....?

So white privilege is just about wealth? That’s news to me
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does this apply to white privilege etc.....?

Just shut your pie hole and send them their reparation checks. You know slavery is some how retroactively your fault
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Just shut your pie hole and send them their reparation checks. You know slavery is some how retroactively your fault
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In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim.

Iam sure a petty person like yourself and Scott would have cried about Reagan issuing an official apology and reparations but called it compensation from the United States Or if RI got rid of VJ Day

would you be outraged if America issued an apology for slavery

Seems you’ve bought into the right wing fantasy that your personally being blamed .. by people who have no idea who you are ..

Some of the most cited reasoning for white Americans’ opposition to reparations includes the fact that no one directly involved in the practice is still living,

polling data collected by Hunt and Reichelmann shows that about 45% of those polled are opposed to the idea of apologizing to Black Americans
even a simple apology is rejected I am shocked
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In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim.

Iam sure a petty person like yourself and Scott would have cried about Reagan issuing an official apology and reparations but called it compensation from the United States Or if RI got rid of VJ Day

would you be outraged if America issued an apology for slavery

Seems you’ve bought into the right wing fantasy that your personally being blamed .. by people who have no idea who you are ..

Some of the most cited reasoning for white Americans’ opposition to reparations includes the fact that no one directly involved in the practice is still living,

polling data collected by Hunt and Reichelmann shows that about 45% of those polled are opposed to the idea of apologizing to Black Americans
even a simple apology is rejected I am shocked
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Reagan gave the money to the same people
who suffered. If you can find anyone today who was a slave, they’ve got a good claim for reparations.

400,000 northern soldiers died to end slavery, that’s a hefty price paid . . shouldnt reparations be laid by the folks who advocated for slavery? namely, democrats?

if it weren’t for liberalism, blacks wouldn’t need reparations, they’d be doing fine.

In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim.

Iam sure a petty person like yourself and Scott would have cried about Reagan issuing an official apology and reparations but called it compensation from the United States Or if RI got rid of VJ Day

would you be outraged if America issued an apology for slavery

Seems you’ve bought into the right wing fantasy that your personally being blamed .. by people who have no idea who you are ..

Some of the most cited reasoning for white Americans’ opposition to reparations includes the fact that no one directly involved in the practice is still living,

polling data collected by Hunt and Reichelmann shows that about 45% of those polled are opposed to the idea of apologizing to Black Americans
even a simple apology is rejected I am shocked
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Even though not a single person in my family tree ever owned a single slave, I am sorry slavery existed.

There, can we move on now.
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There, can we move on now.

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it's fun when he tells you what you would do or think based on what kind of person he thinks you are....

Reagan gave the money to the same people
who suffered.

.

shhhhhhh....he thinks he's making a point

Two people literally burnt themselves alive in front of government buildings as an emblematic casualty of climate crisis, and it generated nothing compared against the simulated destruction of a thing of the past. Something incredibly to the point here that everyone should dwell with.
The out for the men who burned themselves is "they were crazy." The out for the painting protests is that "they look silly." The point is to not confront the depth of change required.
Because “#^&#^&#^&#^& the grandchildren, probably nothing will happen and we can’t afford it anyways.”
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Two people literally burnt themselves alive in front of government buildings as an emblematic casualty of climate crisis, and it generated nothing compared against the simulated destruction of a thing of the past.
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pretty sure the painting mischief will generate nothing as well....

pretty sure the painting mischief will generate nothing as well....

Pretty sure, The point is to not confront the depth of change required.
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Reagan gave the money to the same people
who suffered. If you can find anyone today who was a slave, they’ve got a good claim for reparations.

400,000 northern soldiers died to end slavery, that’s a hefty price paid . . shouldnt reparations be laid by the folks who advocated for slavery? namely, democrats?

if it weren’t for liberalism, blacks wouldn’t need reparations, they’d be doing fine.

You’re really are a ignorant clown aren’t you

that’s a hefty price paid . . shouldnt reparations be laid by the folks who advocated for slavery? namely, democrats?
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Next you'll be saying , the Republican nominee for governor of Michigan, claimed that Democrats want to “topple” the United States for losing the Civil War.

and She claimed people did not learn about major moments in Black history like the 1921 Tulsa race massacre because “Democrats don’t want you to know.”

who's running for Governor in Michigan Tudor Dixon

Republicans tried to claim their political ancestors at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night, casting back to Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican President, to argue they deserve more credit from Black voters.

The problem is that the Republicans and the politics of 1860 bear almost zero resemblance to the Republicans of today.


Yep Jim you follow the facts

Next you'll be saying , the Republican nominee for governor of Michigan, claimed that Democrats want to “topple” the United States for losing the Civil War.

and She claimed people did not learn about major moments in Black history like the 1921 Tulsa race massacre because “Democrats don’t want you to know.”

who's running for Governor in Michigan Tudor Dixon

Republicans tried to claim their political ancestors at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night, casting back to Abraham Lincoln, the first Republican President, to argue they deserve more credit from Black voters.

The problem is that the Republicans and the politics of 1860 bear almost zero resemblance to the Republicans of today.


Yep Jim you follow the facts

republicans believed in individual
freedom then. they believe in freedom now

the guy who said black plight isn’t his concern, doesn’t get to lecture anyone on ethics.

republicans believed in individual
freedom then. they believe in freedom now

the guy who said black plight isn’t his concern, doesn’t get to lecture anyone on ethics.

republicans believed in individual
freedom then. they believe in freedom now


Some do, but not Trumps And you’re GOP
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republicans believed in individual
freedom then. they believe in freedom now


Some do, but not Trumps And you’re GOP
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the gop today believes in lower taxes, school
choice, fewer federal regulations, all things that increase freedoms

Which states had the least severe covid lockdowns? which states opened up schools and businesses first?

You can’t win this debate. Liberals today want a massive federal government presence in our lives. republicans want less federal government intrusion.

the gop today believes in lower taxes, school
choice, fewer federal regulations, all things that increase freedoms

Which states had the least severe covid lockdowns? which states opened up schools and businesses first?

You can’t win this debate. Liberals today want a massive federal government presence in our lives. republicans want less federal government intrusion.

you do live in a fantasy ...... Guess you never hear of the patriot act

you do live in a fantasy ...... Guess you never hear of the patriot act

i didn’t say the gop wants zero federal government. But they want a whole lot less than you do. That’s fact whether you like it or not. i never said the gop are anarchists.

Jim’s all set with the GOP’s core issues: race, immigration, and COVID fanaticism.
Never mind that the GOP controlled the House, Senate and the Presidency from 2016 to 18 and did nothing about immigration and now are telling the world that we have open borders.
Red states Covid deaths increased as they “opened” up and the rights claim that “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.“ is akin to claiming that if we legalize criminal activities we'll become a crime-free society?
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Jim’s all set with the GOP’s core issues: race, immigration, and COVID fanaticism.
Never mind that the GOP controlled the House, Senate and the Presidency from 2016 to 18 and did nothing about immigration and now are telling the world that we have open borders.
Red states Covid deaths increased as they “opened” up and the rights claim that “The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.“ is akin to claiming that if we legalize criminal activities we'll become a crime-free society?
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"race"

Where I live, I've had a front-row seat to see what 40 years of unchecked liberalism have done for blacks in New Haven, Bridgeport, and Hartford. It ain't pretty. The left's view is to control black numbers through abortion, and keep those who survive stuck in horrific modern day plantations we call cities. I think these people deserve a lot better. Democrats call for more of the same.

Yes, I'm all set with my views on race.

"immigration"

I want reasonable numbers of legal immigration, and a secure border. I'm sure that's a radical concept to you, but it's what most Americans believe.

So yes I'm all set there.

"COVID fanaticism"

Not sure what you mean, I'm reacting to empirical results, which are very clear that the lockdowns especially in schools, were a huge, catastrophic over reaction. Liberals are not to quick to be persuaded by measurable results, they're quite skilled at ignoring any and all facts which don't support their religion.

You got caught making up quotes from MTG, and I'm the fanatic. Makes sense...

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Never mind that the GOP controlled the House, Senate and the Presidency from 2016 to 18 and did nothing about immigration"

Agreed. Which is why I've said 100 times they get a big fat F on that issue. But apparently they did something, because crossings are way higher now. Why are crossings so much higher now?

"Red states Covid deaths increased as they “opened” up "

Not as high as NY's rates. More freedom and lower death rates, is what you call "winning" in any kind of honest assessment.

"“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.“ is akin to claiming that if we legalize criminal activities we'll become a crime-free society?"

Idiotic.

Not a good post from you, I guess the looming midterms are weighing heavily on you. Your earlier prediction that the left was poised to win the midterms because of abortion, is looking pretty stupid right now.

"race"

Where I live, I've had a front-row seat to see what 40 years of unchecked liberalism have done for blacks in New Haven, Bridgeport, and Hartford. It ain't pretty. The left's view is to control black numbers through abortion, and keep those who survive stuck in horrific modern day plantations we call cities. I think these people deserve a lot better. Democrats call for more of the same.

Yes, I'm all set with my views on race.

"immigration"

I want reasonable numbers of legal immigration, and a secure border. I'm sure that's a radical concept to you, but it's what most Americans believe.

So yes I'm all set there.

"COVID fanaticism"

Not sure what you mean, I'm reacting to empirical results, which are very clear that the lockdowns especially in schools, were a huge, catastrophic over reaction. Liberals are not to quick to be persuaded by measurable results, they're quite skilled at ignoring any and all facts which don't support their religion.

You got caught making up quotes from MTG, and I'm the fanatic. Makes sense...

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Never mind that the GOP controlled the House, Senate and the Presidency from 2016 to 18 and did nothing about immigration"

Agreed. Which is why I've said 100 times they get a big fat F on that issue. But apparently they did something, because crossings are way higher now. Why are crossings so much higher now?

"Red states Covid deaths increased as they “opened” up "

Not as high as NY's rates. More freedom and lower death rates, is what you call "winning" in any kind of honest assessment.

"“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.“ is akin to claiming that if we legalize criminal activities we'll become a crime-free society?"

Idiotic.

Not a good post from you, I guess the looming midterms are weighing heavily on you. Your earlier prediction that the left was poised to win the midterms because of abortion, is looking pretty stupid right now.

Sorry victim you’re wrong
I grew up in the fastest growing place in the USA, a town that went from a single K-12 school where I went to kindergarten to 8 elementary, two middle and two high schools in 12 years.
There was less than a handful of kids that weren’t white in my class and today that town is still far whiter than most of the surrounding towns.
Redlining, realtors and banks played racist games and still do.
You just keep thinking systemic racism doesn’t exist.

Red states COVID curves were exactly the opposite of places that reacted to Covid with public health measures.
In blue states people died because they didn’t yet know, red states they died because of ignorance and greed.
Floriduh and NY are prime examples, NY had early high rates, Floriduh had most of their deaths in the latter stages of Covid, when DeathSantis claimed it was nothing and vaccines didn’t work.
Don’t worry Jim, Roevember is coming.
You claimed your hero was invincible also….
Remember most of your ilk claims they won the last election and Putin is good.
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Sorry victim you’re wrong
I grew up in the fastest growing place in the USA, a town that went from a single K-12 school where I went to kindergarten to 8 elementary, two middle and two high schools in 12 years.
There was less than a handful of kids that weren’t white in my class and today that town is still far whiter than most of the surrounding towns.
Redlining, realtors and banks played racist games and still do.
You just keep thinking systemic racism doesn’t exist.

Red states COVID curves were exactly the opposite of places that reacted to Covid with public health measures.
In blue states people died because they didn’t yet know, red states they died because of ignorance and greed.
Floriduh and NY are prime examples, NY had early high rates, Floriduh had most of their deaths in the latter stages of Covid, when DeathSantis claimed it was nothing and vaccines didn’t work.
Don’t worry Jim, Roevember is coming.
You claimed your hero was invincible also….
Remember most of your ilk claims they won the last election and Putin is good.
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maybe you made all
that up.

what’s not made up is how much worse life is for blacks in new haven,,bridgeport, and hartford. not
enough dads. but let’s not talk about that.

“So here’s, I think, the most important thing with the data: if you are vaccinated—fully vaccinated—the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero,” DeSantis said. “If you look at the people who are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.”

https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/vaccines-are-saving-lives-desantis-stresses-importance-of-shots-as-florida-covid-cases-spike-criticizes-mask-mandates/amp/
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“So here’s, I think, the most important thing with the data: if you are vaccinated—fully vaccinated—the chance of you getting seriously ill or dying from COVID is effectively zero,” DeSantis said. “If you look at the people who are being admitted to hospitals, over 95 percent of them are either not fully vaccinated or not vaccinated at all. These vaccines are saving lives. They are reducing mortality.”

https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/vaccines-are-saving-lives-desantis-stresses-importance-of-shots-as-florida-covid-cases-spike-criticizes-mask-mandates/amp/
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curious to hear the lefty response to that quote from Death-santis the science denier.

I'm just happy for wayne, he's apparently discovered colored font and size options...it's a whole new world of adventure....:hihi:

Well, (Doctor?) DeathSantis reversed course, allows state healthcare providers to order COVID vaccines for kids.
He also

FORT LAUDERDALE — In his first news conference since the omicron variant surged across Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis badmouthed vaccines while pushing for unproven treatments against the mutated pathogen.

“With omicron, you know, the vaccinations are not preventing infection,” DeSantis said Monday at Broward Health Medical Center.

But since the beginning of nationwide vaccine rollouts, doctors and scientists have emphasized that although the virus can infect inoculated people, they offer the best protection against severe illness and death, even for those who catch the heavily mutated omicron variant. Those with booster shots are the most protected, authorities say.

Statistics from Miami-Dade County hospitals confirmed Monday that the overwhelming majority of COVID-19 patients are unvaccinated — 79% of them, the county reported.

Infections have exploded statewide. Florida reported 536,748 new infections in the two weeks ended Sunday, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. That’s more than during the first two weeks of August, when the delta variant surged across the state.
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he's also going to win by double digits which is weird for someone you've labeled Death Santis who has killed all of his voters, I guess the people that actually live in his state have a much different view of him than you do....but you probably think they are all wrong and you are right:hihi:

In his first news conference since the omicron variant surged across Florida, Gov. Ron DeSantis badmouthed vaccines “

With omicron, you know, the vaccinations are not preventing infection,” DeSantis said Monday at Broward Health Medical Center.

Newsflash, stating a fact is not badmouthing.

But keep hammering away on that keyboard, Pete. You’re saving mankind one key stroke at a time.
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Well, (Doctor?) DeathSantis reversed course, allows state healthcare providers to order COVID vaccines for kids.
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Really not that big of a deal, Pete. But you keep that outrage machine churning, I'm sure you'll get the results you're looking for.

Really not that big of a deal, Pete. But you keep that outrage machine churning, I'm sure you'll get the results you're looking for.

Florida was the biggest exporter of Covid — remember the cellphone pings from **one beach party in Ft Lauderdale after other states took measures to protect citizens?

Democrat Charlie Crist is now leading Florida GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis in new poll
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I hope it ends well for you
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Florida was the biggest exporter of Covid — remember the cellphone pings from **one beach party in Ft Lauderdale after other states took measures to protect citizens?

Democrat Charlie Crist is now leading Florida GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis in new poll
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Oh man, Crist is leading! Desantis concedes!!!!!

You are precious.

Democrat Charlie Crist is now leading Florida GOP Gov. Ron DeSantis in new poll

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this is bidenesque...make sure you get one of those things to hang around your neck so they can find you if you go wandering off

this is bidenesque...make sure you get one of those things to hang around your neck so they can find you if you go wandering off

come on…all the data shows that FL is turning blue, and that Beto is now leading Abbott in TX!

no one will vote for the gop who want to beat all democrats to death and then cancel social
security and medicare. Biden just said so!

Beto is now leading Abbott in TX!



beto and abrams...the two biggest wastes of money in the history of politics...definitely democrat presidential contenders though....

beto and abrams...the two biggest wastes of money in the history of politics...definitely democrat presidential contenders though....

they need to learn that no means no.

beto and abrams...the two biggest wastes of money in the history of politics...definitely democrat presidential contenders though....

The New York gubernatorial election will probably be closer than Florida’s.

You might get what you want

Miami-Dade County has hired 3 former 'Proud Boys' as poll workers. One of them faces 6 federal charges for storming the U.S. Capitol. The other one made a video wearing a “F**k Biden” baseball cap, saying, “You heard it right, I’m working the polls...Cry some more, liberals. ”
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You might get what you want

Miami-Dade County has hired 3 former 'Proud Boys' as poll workers. One of them faces 6 federal charges for storming the U.S. Capitol. The other one made a video wearing a “F**k Biden” baseball cap, saying, “You heard it right, I’m working the polls...Cry some more, liberals. ”
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i want it easy to vote,,impossible to cheat. Is that a threat to democracy?

i want it easy to vote,,impossible to cheat. Is that a threat to democracy?

The only people making it harder to vote and seem to have convinced you cheating is a problem

Are the only people and Party to try to overturn a national election because they didn’t like who won . By actual trying to cheat!

Not sure Jim when you and other Maga supporters are going to accept this glaring Truth
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The only people making it harder to vote and seem to have convinced you cheating is a problem

Are the only people and Party to try to overturn a national election because they didn’t like who won . By actual trying to cheat!

Not sure Jim when you and other Maga supporters are going to accept this glaring Truth
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i don’t think showing an id is an unreasonable burden. And when jen side claims it is, it makes me think they want to do away with ids to make it easier to cheat. Requiring an id is the single
most obvious requirement that any sane person would suggest. and that includes having to show an id to get a mail in ballot. Mass mail in voting makes it ridiculously easy to cheat and should be avoided. In person voting if possible, and show a photo id. if you object to that, you’re the one who’s trying to get away with something, and if you say it’s racist, you’re stupid and also obviously trying to get away with something.

accept what? i’ve said a thousand times i don’t think cheating cost trump. but i do t trust mass mail in voting. Checking signatures is a joke. how many people
are trained to spot differences in signatures?

i don’t think showing an id is an unreasonable burden. And when jen side claims it is, it makes me think they want to do away with ids to make it easier to cheat. Requiring an id is the single
most obvious requirement that any sane person would suggest. and that includes having to show an id to get a mail in ballot. Mass mail in voting makes it ridiculously easy to cheat and should be avoided. In person voting if possible, and show a photo id. if you object to that, you’re the one who’s trying to get away with something, and if you say it’s racist, you’re stupid and also obviously trying to get away with something.

accept what? i’ve said a thousand times i don’t think cheating cost trump. but i do t trust mass mail in voting. Checking signatures is a joke. how many people
are trained to spot differences in signatures?

i don’t think showing an id is an unreasonable

I don’t either. Until it’s filled with lies


but i do t trust mass mail in voting.

Because that’s what they told you

Checking signatures is a joke. how many people
are trained to spot differences in signatures

None . their all volunteers again the only party casting doubt are Republicans

Yet the republicans who won on the same ballot trump lost on with the same mail in ballots

Seem to accept their victory. While claiming And supporting the Big lie

That’s the Truth Republicans can’t run from
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Several Metro Atlanta counties have been inundated with mass challenges to the eligibility of tens of thousands of registered voters, filed with the help of groups pushing baseless conspiracy theories about voter fraud.

While Georgia’s new election law SB-202 made it clear that individuals could challenge an “unlimited” number of voters in their county,

We did see over 300,000 voter challenges filed en masse in the state in December 2020,” says Vasu Abhiraman, senior policy counsel at the ACLU of Georgia.

I would love to see the racial and party beak down of these challenges



This is by design not concern


So is this , Right-wing groups spend millions of dollars on ads targeting transgender kids
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i don’t think showing an id is an unreasonable

I don’t either. Until it’s filled with lies


but i do t trust mass mail in voting.

Because that’s what they told you

Checking signatures is a joke. how many people
are trained to spot differences in signatures

None . their all volunteers again the only party casting doubt are Republicans

Yet the republicans who won on the same ballot trump lost on with the same mail in ballots

Seem to accept their victory. While claiming And supporting the Big lie

That’s the Truth Republicans can’t run from
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"i don’t think showing an id is an unreasonable

I don’t either. Until it’s filled with lies"

How does a photo id get filled with lies, exactly?

"but i do t trust mass mail in voting.

Because that’s what they told you "

No, not because it's what someone told me. Because common sense suggests it's not hard to give someone mail in ballots and have them fill them out for the candidate you want.

You're denying that cheating is easier with mass mail in balloting, than it is with in-person voting where you have to show an id?

That's just stupid, and why you're not taken seriously.

Neither of my kids live at home. Last election we received mail in ballots for them in the mail, twice. What was to stop me from filling them out and mailing them back? They both voted in person in their respective locations too. Knowing people, the honor system isn’t 100% effective
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Neither of my kids live at home. Last election we received mail in ballots for them in the mail, twice. What was to stop me from filling them out and mailing them back? They both voted in person in their respective locations too. Knowing people, the honor system isn’t 100% effective
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Who ever claimed it was 100% that’s an impossible system

It’s your child’s responsibility to change their address. And if did fill them out only 1 vote would have been counted

It’s all a republicans hoax

The example below proves it

There is no reason to stand near drop boxes in Arizona and monitor who is casting ballots. After all, there is no evidence at all that drop boxes are a vehicle for casting fraudulent votes. The Associated Press contacted election administrators across the country and found no significant examples of fraud being committed using drop boxes.

Yet there has been a movement to do precisely that.
Much of the concern about drop boxes, of course, derives from the film “2000 Mules,


If something is broken fix it but. When those who claim it’s broken elected and non elected people are just lying and have zero empirical proof .. it is clearly their fault why people have lost Trust in elections

And it’s only the Republicans making those claims

And democrats concerned about the elections issue are the lies . Not this mythical fraud that statistically barely exist

No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2103619118
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Neither of my kids live at home. Last election we received mail in ballots for them in the mail, twice. What was to stop me from filling them out and mailing them back? They both voted in person in their respective locations too. Knowing people, the honor system isn’t 100% effective
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Bingo...

I'm willing to bet that if Pete was in your shoes, he might not have thrown them in the garbage...after writing in Hugo Chavez as his preferred candidate.

their are tons of people on both sides who will do anything to stay in power. So if there are obviously simple ways to make it harder to cheat, why oppose them?

To me, opposing voter id is like opposing drug tests. I'm pretty sure i know what you're trying to hide, it's not hard to figure it out...

Saying voter id is racist, takes the dishonesty to a whole new level.

If you put some problem-solvers in a room who cared nothing about politics, and asked them how to ensure honest elections, the first thing every one of them would say, is "in-person voting with voter id". What else comes close to guaranteeing honest results? Nothing else even comes close.

Who ever claimed it was 100% that’s an impossible system

It’s your child’s responsibility to change their address. And if did fill them out only 1 vote would have been counted

It’s all a republicans hoax

The example below proves it

There is no reason to stand near drop boxes in Arizona and monitor who is casting ballots. After all, there is no evidence at all that drop boxes are a vehicle for casting fraudulent votes. The Associated Press contacted election administrators across the country and found no significant examples of fraud being committed using drop boxes.

Yet there has been a movement to do precisely that.
Much of the concern about drop boxes, of course, derives from the film “2000 Mules,


If something is broken fix it but. When those who claim it’s broken elected and non elected people are just lying and have zero empirical proof .. it is clearly their fault why people have lost Trust in elections

And it’s only the Republicans making those claims

And democrats concerned about the elections issue are the lies . Not this mythical fraud that statistically barely exist

No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2103619118
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TDF just proved it's not a hoax.

"And it’s only the Republicans making those claims"

Is TDF a Republican?

Neither of my kids live at home. Last election we received mail in ballots for them in the mail, twice. What was to stop me from filling them out and mailing them back? They both voted in person in their respective locations too. Knowing people, the honor system isn’t 100% effective
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Signature verification is one.

They did change their addresses, as referenced by the fact they could go and vote at their current locations by having their names bounced against the voter rolls there. Yet I could have just filled out their ballots at my house and just mailed them in. Do you see how this could give someone pause to go “hmmm, this might be of concern”

Other than you saying it wouldn’t happen, what proof do you have that it couldn’t happen?

Wouldn’t ID and in person voting be a possible solution to preventing it from happening?

I also didn’t say the voting system wasn’t a 100%, I said humans working on an honor system isn’t 100%, I was being facetious
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Signature verification is one.

I don’t ever sign anything when I vote in person, they don’t even check ID.

And do you really think they verify every signature on every ballot that comes in? Do you really think the government is that efficient?
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TDF just proved it's not a hoax.

"And it’s only the Republicans making those claims"

Is TDF a Republican?

Un-Enrolled.

As Groucho Marx said “I wouldn’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member”

Before I was that, I used to be a registered Democrat.
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TDF just proved it's not a hoax.

"And it’s only the Republicans making those claims"

Is TDF a Republican?

And I didn’t “Prove” anything. I just said that there are concerns out there that don’t give people the warm and fuzzies on election integrity.
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Signature verification is one.

And that's very very reliable, because we're all trained to spot signature fakes.

And I didn’t “Prove” anything. I just said that there are concerns out there that don’t give people the warm and fuzzies on election integrity.
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Sorry to disagree, but you did prove that concerns about integrity are not a republican hoax. You didn't prove there was cheating and I didn't mean to imply that you did. You did prove that there are vulnerabilities.

You provided a case of exactly why we need safeguards, and you're not a republican.

They did change their addresses, as referenced by the fact they could go and vote at their current locations by having their names bounced against the voter rolls there. Yet I could have just filled out their ballots at my house and just mailed them in. Do you see how this could give someone pause to go “hmmm, this might be of concern”

Other than you saying it wouldn’t happen, what proof do you have that it couldn’t happen?

Wouldn’t ID and in person voting be a possible solution to preventing it from happening?

I also didn’t say the voting system wasn’t a 100%, I said humans working on an honor system isn’t 100%, I was being facetious
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"They did change their addresses, as referenced by the fact they could go and vote at their current locations"

So he was 100% wrong on that.

"Wouldn’t ID and in person voting be a possible solution to preventing it from happening?"

Yes.

And the best argument the left can make against id laws, is that they're racist.

69% of blacks support voter id. So I can't help but notice that blacks don't buy into the liberal argument that id laws are racist. Interesting...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/poll-75-percent-americans-support-voter-id

Changing Your Address
You must update your voter registration every time you move. If you have moved, you may update your registration by filling out a new voter registration form. If you move after the deadline to register to vote in a state election or primary, you should wait to update your registration until after the date of the election or primary, and return to vote at your previous polling place in Massachusetts. State law allows you to vote from a previous address in a state election for up to six month after you have moved, as long as you have not registered elsewhere

Now if you’re Taking 3 years after they moved to a different town you’re getting their mail in ballots that’s an issue

Do you see how this could give someone pause to go “hmmm, this might be of concern”

Nope. Unless of course you think that’s what’s happened and is happening

And it’s a crime and again statistically if it were to happen

like the woman who sent in her dead husbands ballot . which I am sure happens all the time

Is not the rampant Fraud Republicans claims exist

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Wouldn’t ID and in person voting be a possible solution to preventing it from happening?"


Nope .. why because it been getting done for years

Eight states—California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont and Washington—allow all elections to be conducted by mail.

Two states—Nebraska and North Dakota—permit counties to opt into conducting elections by mail.

Republicans only see fairness when they win but only fraud when they lose. Because they have no standards
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Wouldn’t ID and in person voting be a possible solution to preventing it from happening?"


Nope .. why because it been getting done for years

Eight states—California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont and Washington—allow all elections to be conducted by mail.

Two states—Nebraska and North Dakota—permit counties to opt into conducting elections by mail.

Republicans only see fairness when they win but only fraud when they lose. Because they have no standards
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wayne, is there one, single, policy issue, on which you think the democrats have done a crappy job ovet the last two years? And meaningful agenda items on which guys give them a bad grade? Anything?

Or have they done everything well?

Tim Michels: "Republicans will never lose another election in Wisconsin after I'm elected governor."

He’s saying the quiet part out loud.
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Tim Michels: "Republicans will never lose another election in Wisconsin after I'm elected governor."

He’s saying the quiet part out loud.

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I like his enthusiasm for his team....probably make a great football coach too!