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Pete F.
12-19-2022, 06:41 AM
“Should I step down as head of Twitter? I will abide by the results of this poll.”

A billionaire losing a “do you like me” poll on a service he paid $44 billion for is just an objectively funny way for his Twitter purchase to end.

Before he steps down I’d just like to thank Elon Musk for shattering the myth that billionaires are smarter, more hard working, or simply any better than anyone else in the most public way imaginable.

Jim in CT
12-19-2022, 09:16 AM
boy you guys never stop going after anyone who doesn’t tow the line. So much for being an environmental hero, which Musk probably is.

What does it say Pete, that the left is so scared of removing politically-motivated censorship?

He may be a good guy, maybe not, i have no clue nor do i especially care. But he challenged woke lefties, therefore you’re all obsessed with destroying him.

Pete F.
12-19-2022, 09:54 AM
Poor victim
Am I the only person who thinks Elon is in reality being FORCED to step down as the CEO of Twitter?
Besides you should be ecstatic, Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law, is rumored to be Elon Musk’s pick for Twitter’s CEO.
I’ll bet it’s just a coincidence that links to Post, Mastadon, and Tribel are banned but links to Parler, Gab, and Gettr are not.
“Remember the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed”
MTG?
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Jim in CT
12-19-2022, 10:25 AM
Poor victim
Am I the only person who thinks Elon is in reality being FORCED to step down as the CEO of Twitter?
Besides you should be ecstatic, Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law, is rumored to be Elon Musk’s pick for Twitter’s CEO.
I’ll bet it’s just a coincidence that links to Post, Mastadon, and Tribel are banned but links to Parler, Gab, and Gettr are not.
“Remember the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed”
MTG?
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yup, elon musk is a victim!!!

Pete, it’s a private company, they can do what they want. You didn’t have chit to say when they were obsessed with silencing conservatives. Now that conservatives can tweet as long as they follow the rules, you’re losing whatever was left of your mind

Pete, is there a single republican out there who you think is a really good person, but who just happens to disagree with you? Or are we all Sith lords?

Another made up quote? i googled MTG and that quite, found nothing. Wouldn’t have been shocked if she said it, nor would anyone be shocked if you made it up.

PaulS
12-19-2022, 11:22 AM
Another made up quote? i googled MTG and that quite, found nothing. .

You just get caught lying about what I said in the Pelosi thread and you have the nerve to talk about made up quotes.

spence
12-19-2022, 12:08 PM
You didn’t have chit to say when they were obsessed with silencing conservatives.
#doubleduped

Pete F.
12-19-2022, 01:41 PM
yup, elon musk is a victim!!!

Pete, it’s a private company, they can do what they want. You didn’t have chit to say when they were obsessed with silencing conservatives. Now that conservatives can tweet as long as they follow the rules, you’re losing whatever was left of your mind

Pete, is there a single republican out there who you think is a really good person, but who just happens to disagree with you? Or are we all Sith lords?

Another made up quote? i googled MTG and that quite, found nothing. Wouldn’t have been shocked if she said it, nor would anyone be shocked if you made it up.

Poor victim

You’ve already proven yourself to be a RINO, but you’ll never get the Trump stink off.

The funniest part of this $44 Billion blunder is since he started alienating leftists, who just so happen to be the biggest purchasers of electric vehicles, his Tesla stock has lost half its value and on top of that he’s had to sell Billions worth just to keep Twitter afloat 😂

As far as your latest hero efforts on censorship, yes I’m sure the Saudis and Qataris who are famously deeply invested in the civilization-defining battle at Twitter are renowned for their defense of free public speech.

You’ll have to decide for yourself what (MTG?) means, I’m sure most could figure that out.
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wdmso
12-19-2022, 03:10 PM
Pete, it’s a private company, they can do what they want.

Under musk?

Unless they suppress the Hunter laptop story then you’re outraged crying foul , like the rest of the right wing

So when is ok for this private company ? When they Do what they want or do what you want?
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Jim in CT
12-19-2022, 03:51 PM
You just get caught lying about what I said in the Pelosi thread and you have the nerve to talk about made up quotes.

sorry you said it was a republican insult to be called gay. don’t backpedal now, own it. you’re being very very defensive. just own it.

Jim in CT
12-19-2022, 03:54 PM
Pete, it’s a private company, they can do what they want.

Under musk?

Unless they suppress the Hunter laptop story then you’re outraged crying foul , like the rest of the right wing

So when is ok for this private company ? When they Do what they want or do what you want?
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see your inability to read is off again. i said many times that if fox news can be biased, so can twitter. The issue with twitter is that the fbi. was trying to get them ( and facebook) to censor a story for political reasons, and that’s not the FBIs job. Twitter can do whatever it wants


How many times do i have to say “if fox news can be biased, so can twitter, they can do whatever they want”, before you understand?

you really are quite stupid.

PaulS
12-19-2022, 03:54 PM
sorry you said it was a republican insult to be called gay. don’t backpedal now, own it. you’re being very very defensive. just own it.

That is not what I said.

You are a scummy liar.

wdmso
12-19-2022, 05:36 PM
Another stable Genius

New York GOP leader calls accusation of faked bio for new GOP House member "serious"

Did this guy think no one check

And if he lied will the GOP force him to resign?
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Jim in CT
12-19-2022, 08:08 PM
Another stable Genius

New York GOP leader calls accusation of faked bio for new GOP House member "serious"

Did this guy think no one check

And if he lied will the GOP force him to resign?
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Wayne, since you LOVE posting the misdeeds of obscure republicans no one has ever heard of, and assuming his actions speak for all Republicans...

Well sir, here is Bidens senior nuclear energy official, a man arrested for multiple thefts of ladies luggage. Please tell me if you are on the hook for how this man conducts himself. I assume you'll admit his actions speak for you, since you constantly say all Republicans are responsible for what every single Republican does.

I'll wait.

Jim in CT
12-19-2022, 08:10 PM
That is not what I said.

You are a scummy liar.

You lumped "gay" in with "other republican insults".

Sorry if the truth hurts.

You also lied (no refuting it) when you said only republicans are talking about alternative theories of what happened, when the NBC affiliate in San Francisco also did so. Also the NBC news national reporter.

It ain't just republicans.

Pete F.
12-19-2022, 09:52 PM
You lumped "gay" in with "other republican insults".

Sorry if the truth hurts.

You also lied (no refuting it) when you said only republicans are talking about alternative theories of what happened, when the NBC affiliate in San Francisco also did so. Also the NBC news national reporter.

It ain't just republicans.

The reality is most media is either right or centrist. Calling it "left media" to make people reject it and fear it is what the fascists have done, and it has worked. There is no mainstream left media.
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PaulS
12-19-2022, 10:03 PM
You lumped "gay" in with "other republican insults".

Sorry if the truth hurts.

You also lied (no refuting it) when you said only republicans are talking about alternative theories of what happened, when the NBC affiliate in San Francisco also did so. Also the NBC news national reporter.

It ain't just republicans.

You're a scummy liar
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Jim in CT
12-20-2022, 06:11 AM
The reality is most media is either right or centrist.
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If you say it, it must be true.

How about college professors? Also a bunch of right wingers?

PaulS
12-20-2022, 09:45 AM
Another stable Genius

New York GOP leader calls accusation of faked bio for new GOP House member "serious"

Did this guy think no one check

And if he lied will the GOP force him to resign?
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Don't know what is more unbelievable, that he thought he could get away with it or that his opponent didn't check his resume.

wdmso
12-20-2022, 10:05 AM
Wayne, since you LOVE posting the misdeeds of obscure republicans no one has ever heard of, and assuming his actions speak for all Republicans...

Well sir, here is Bidens senior nuclear energy official, a man arrested for multiple thefts of ladies luggage. Please tell me if you are on the hook for how this man conducts himself. I assume you'll admit his actions speak for you, since you constantly say all Republicans are responsible for what every single Republican does.

I'll wait.
I’ll wait really Jim as if your having a gotcha moment lol


Man you’re desperate

A ) she’s appointed not elected

B) she admits she stole the items and did it prior in a separate airport reports show

C) Department of Energy spokesperson says Brinton Sam Brinton is no longer a DOE employee, case closed

D) now she waits for her court date and punishment . As expected


So far the person I highlighted is

A) elected
B) admitted nothing
C) hasn’t resigned

And my original question what if anything will the GOP do if what he did is True

The democrat administration fired their petty criminal
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wdmso
12-20-2022, 10:17 AM
This was the prevailing response towards Musk’s Twitter poll. If he should say or Go . On newsmax he’s their newest hero

I suspect many of the votes against where bots anyway. Elon has to stay, the free world needs him.

Classic response witch hunts bots or fake news
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Jim in CT
12-20-2022, 10:28 AM
I’ll wait really Jim as if your having a gotcha moment lol


Man you’re desperate

A ) she’s appointed not elected

B) she admits she stole the items and did it prior in a separate airport reports show

C) Department of Energy spokesperson says Brinton Sam Brinton is no longer a DOE employee, case closed

D) now she waits for her court date and punishment . As expected


So far the person I highlighted is

A) elected
B) admitted nothing
C) hasn’t resigned

And my original question what if anything will the GOP do if what he did is True

The democrat administration fired their petty criminal
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"she’s appointed not elected "

I'm aware. What does that say about the judgment of the people that appointed him? A transvestite kleptomaniac? Terrific!

Yes I'm very desperate. You're posting comments from readers of a conservative site, looking for the most radical ones you can find, and claiming that speaks for all republicans.

Fine.

Then the most radical, stupid, immoral liberals, speak for your whole side. Right? Or do you only apply that logic to the right?

Oh, so you don't like lies from elected politicians? So what's your opinion on CT Senator Richard Blumenthal? Or Bidens many lies, such as getting arrested with Nelson Mandela? Are those lies disqualifying? Or is it only bad when Republicans do it?

wdmso
12-20-2022, 11:27 AM
"she’s appointed not elected "

I'm aware. What does that say about the judgment of the people that appointed him? A transvestite kleptomaniac? Terrific!

Yes I'm very desperate. You're posting comments from readers of a conservative site, looking for the most radical ones you can find, and claiming that speaks for all republicans.

Fine.

Then the most radical, stupid, immoral liberals, speak for your whole side. Right? Or do you only apply that logic to the right?

Oh, so you don't like lies from elected politicians? So what's your opinion on CT Senator Richard Blumenthal? Or Bidens many lies, such as getting arrested with Nelson Mandela? Are those lies disqualifying? Or is it only bad when Republicans do it?



You go back to your old stale canned arguments shocking.


What does that say about the judgment of the people that appointed him? A transvestite kleptomaniac?

Jim she wasn’t arrested so there’s no issues in her background check.. but for you Tranny is was warning sigh. Not being qualified .. we get it


You're posting comments from readers of a conservative site, looking for the most radical ones you can find, and claiming that speaks for all republicans.

Sorry Jim no looking no searching at all their right on the site .

They do speak for all Republicans and all Republicans speak for them or even worse don’t say anything against them . But keep convincing yourself the GOP is on steady ground

So you still dodged the question is it ok to lie to get elected?

And there’s yours and the GOPs ethics problem . You and them don’t have any.. that’s why Trump’s running for office again members of the house of refuse subpoenas you’re all just so ethical
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Pete F.
12-20-2022, 01:29 PM
"she’s appointed not elected "

I'm aware. What does that say about the judgment of the people that appointed him? A transvestite kleptomaniac? Terrific!

Yes I'm very desperate. You're posting comments from readers of a conservative site, looking for the most radical ones you can find, and claiming that speaks for all republicans.

Fine.

Then the most radical, stupid, immoral liberals, speak for your whole side. Right? Or do you only apply that logic to the right?

Oh, so you don't like lies from elected politicians? So what's your opinion on CT Senator Richard Blumenthal? Or Bidens many lies, such as getting arrested with Nelson Mandela? Are those lies disqualifying? Or is it only bad when Republicans do it?

Since when did character matter to you?
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wdmso
12-20-2022, 03:52 PM
This is his lawyers response classic GOP victim hood

lawyer for Mr Santos hit back at the claims, describing them as "defamatory" and a "shotgun blast of attacks".
"George Santos represents the kind of progress that the Left is so threatened by - a gay, Latino first generation American and Republican,"

How about if they just address the discrepancy’s

It’s not like their accusing him of being a Muslim and claiming his birth certificate is fake
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Jim in CT
12-20-2022, 05:16 PM
They do speak for all Republicans
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So, the kooks on the right speak for everyone on the right. But the kooks on the left don't speak for the whole left, you just ignore the kooks on the left because, well they're kooks.

Wayne, that approach must make life very easy for you. But it has zero principle to it.

wdmso
12-21-2022, 09:06 AM
So, the kooks on the right speak for everyone on the right. But the kooks on the left don't speak for the whole left, you just ignore the kooks on the left because, well they're kooks.

Wayne, that approach must make life very easy for you. But it has zero principle to it.

Jim when the Republican Party it’s leaders and representatives remain silent or actively support Trump and his lies. Refuse subpoenas. Call Jan 6th a witch hunt . Censures members who for voting to impeach Trump ..

Then yes it’s that easy! They are afraid of the crazy and want and search for their support and vote and amplify their madness .

Jim your in denial once again doing what you do best ! pushing bogus comparisons , in another attempt to suggest everyone does it
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wdmso
12-22-2022, 12:16 PM
Incoming GOP Rep.’s family Holocaust claims challenged

Megan Smolenyak, an author and professional genealogist who helped research Santos’ family tree said in email, “There’s no sign of Jewish and/or Ukrainian heritage and no indication of name changes along the way.”

And some think this is just because he’s a Republican

Seems lying is a Republican trait which most support if they can get a win by lying
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Pete F.
12-22-2022, 03:54 PM
George Santos also hid a marriage and divorce to a woman, with the divorce coming weeks before he filed for his first congressional campaign. Yet he ran for Congress claiming he’d been openly gay for a decade.

More lies and secrets from Santos. The man is a fraud.
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wdmso
12-27-2022, 09:55 AM
Rep.-elect George Santos acknowledges ‘résumé lies he calls embellishment’

And used Jim’s logic as his defense . Claiming what he did wasn’t illegal
So it’s ok.
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Jim in CT
12-27-2022, 10:01 AM
Rep.-elect George Santos acknowledges ‘résumé lies he calls embellishment’

And used Jim’s logic as his defense . Claiming what he did wasn’t illegal
So it’s ok.
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when did i use that as a defense of politicians lying to get elected? i think he should be impeached. You shouldn’t benefit from lying.

Hearing those voices again, eh?

But you only care when republicans do it. Biden lies, richard blumenthal lies, those are ok. but when a republican does it, THAT is when you care.

Pete F.
12-27-2022, 01:19 PM
Prediction: Kevin McCarthy will let George Santos be seated because he’s weak and desperately needs his vote. By spring, the real scandal will be the origins of Santos’ money, a scandal McCarthy could have averted but didn’t. And it’ll be big. Because where’s the money from?
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Pete F.
12-27-2022, 01:34 PM
From the HOW LOW CAN ONE GO Department: On George Santos’ claims that his family was Jewish and fled Nazis during WWII: “‘I never claimed to be Jewish,’ he said. ‘I am Catholic. Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background, I said I was “JEW-ish.”’”
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wdmso
12-27-2022, 04:48 PM
when did i use that as a defense of politicians lying to get elected? i think he should be impeached. You shouldn’t benefit from lying.

Hearing those voices again, eh?
Biden lies, richard blumenthal lies, those are ok. but when a republican does it, THAT is when you care.



Claiming what he did wasn’t illegal
So it’s ok.

That was your statement to defend Trump paying his taxes

Aka in support un ethical behavior

Republican won’t vote to remove him . Kevin needs his vote and House Republicans are to cowardly to put Honesty and integrity before Party

And of course you deflect

But you only care when republicans do it.

Again you confuse telling a lie and being a lie that’s Santos a complete fabrication


Senior House Republicans were so keenly aware of alleged inaccuracies and embellishments in U.S. Rep.–elect George Santos’s professional biography, that the topic became a “running joke,” multiple insiders close to House GOP leadership reportedly told the New York Post.

Such honor and integrity
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Pete F.
12-28-2022, 06:59 AM
Santos is the defacto face of today's Republican Party. A pathological liar who justifies his actions with more lies and is proud of what he did. Proof that Republicans have no shame and will cheat and lie at any cost just to win.
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Jim in CT
12-28-2022, 09:26 AM
Claiming what he did wasn’t illegal
So it’s ok.

That was your statement to defend Trump paying his taxes

Aka in support un ethical behavior

Republican won’t vote to remove him . Kevin needs his vote and House Republicans are to cowardly to put Honesty and integrity before Party

And of course you deflect

But you only care when republicans do it.

Again you confuse telling a lie and being a lie that’s Santos a complete fabrication


Senior House Republicans were so keenly aware of alleged inaccuracies and embellishments in U.S. Rep.–elect George Santos’s professional biography, that the topic became a “running joke,” multiple insiders close to House GOP leadership reportedly told the New York Post.

Such honor and integrity
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so Trump should pay more in federal income tax than what the law requires? Why the hell would he do that? Do you pay one cent more than you have to? Nobody does.

no, republicans won’t vote to remove that congressman, just as democrats won’t vote to impeach biden for his numerous outrageous lies, nor will they vote to impeach senator Blumenthal for lying about serving in Vietnam. Nor did they punish Himary for lying about coming under sniper fire.

Why would the GOP be expected to do what you don’t expect democrats to do?

politicians lie. if you think liberals don’t lie, have fun with that.

Jim in CT
12-28-2022, 11:34 AM
also wayne, on the tucker carlson show last night, that lying republican congressman-elect was taken out to the woodshed by guest host Tulsi Gabbard. She gutted him like a fish, which he deserved.

Pete F.
12-28-2022, 11:52 AM
Congressman-elect George Santos: “I’ve been to Moscow many times during my career..”
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wdmso
12-28-2022, 03:11 PM
also wayne, on the tucker carlson show last night, that lying republican congressman-elect was taken out to the woodshed by guest host Tulsi Gabbard. She gutted him like a fish, which he deserved.

But Republicans still wont do a thing... thats been my stance all along



a bit off topic but funny guess who said this and about who


I absolutely cannot stand this guy. Nothing but petty insults for everyone who disagrees with him. He's challenging their courage, for God's sake. Have we ever in our history, had a president so juvenile, so petty, so vindictive? THIS is the guy that was supposed to unite us?

Jim in CT
12-28-2022, 04:56 PM
But Republicans still wont do a thing... thats been my stance all along



a bit off topic but funny guess who said this and about who


I absolutely cannot stand this guy. Nothing but petty insults for everyone who disagrees with him. He's challenging their courage, for God's sake. Have we ever in our history, had a president so juvenile, so petty, so vindictive? THIS is the guy that was supposed to unite us?

no, the republicans won’t do a thing.

how come you don’t care that democrats didn’t do a thing about lies told by Biden, Blumenthal, Hilary?

Why is it only concerning to you, when republicans lie to look better to voters?

That’s a key question. One you can’t answer.

wdmso
12-28-2022, 08:01 PM
no, the republicans won’t do a thing.

how come you don’t care that democrats didn’t do a thing about lies told by Biden, Blumenthal, Hilary?

Why is it only concerning to you, when republicans lie to look better to voters?

That’s a key question. One you can’t answer.

I already answered that

Only you see lies as some how equal

You should learn what a white is

a harmless or trivial lie,

And what lying to voters to create a candidate that doesn’t exist
Most people call that Being a Fraud

a person or thing intended to deceive others, typically by unjustifiably claiming or being credited with accomplishments or qualities.
"mediums exposed as tricksters and frauds"

And the elephant in the room Jim
Biden and Blumenthal were not elected or re elected on because of their lie people were aware

With Santos that isn’t the case those who voted for him were unaware of his lies

However in the future if he last to re election and his constituents vote him back in . That’s their choice
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Pete F.
12-29-2022, 04:35 AM
All things are equal in right wing politics

George Santos pretended to be a gay Afro-Latino Ukrainian Brazilian Catholic Jew whose mother died on 9/11, whose ancestors survived the Holocaust, whose employees died in the Pulse club mass shooting, and whose net worth rose by millions overnight.

Am I missing anything?
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Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 07:24 AM
I already answered that

Only you see lies as some how equal

You should learn what a white is

a harmless or trivial lie,

And what lying to voters to create a candidate that doesn’t exist
Most people call that Being a Fraud


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you’re saying lies are ok if voters knew about them before the election. But how do YOU know what voters actually know, and what they don’t know? Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of? Of course, somehow, you are aware that they all knew. You miraculously have insight into what voters knew when they voted.

And, since you’re saying lies don’t matter if voters knew about them beforehand, then you’re not saying this guy should get kicked out, right? you’re saying there should be another election so that voters, now aware of his lies, can decide if those lies matter?

“everything is ok when democrats do it.”

liberal hypocrisy, always something to behold.

Got Stripers
12-29-2022, 08:12 AM
you’re saying lies are ok if voters knew about them before the election. But how do YOU know what voters actually know, and what they don’t know? Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of? Of course, somehow, you are aware that they all knew. You miraculously have insight into what voters knew when they voted.

And, since you’re saying lies don’t matter if voters knew about them beforehand, then you’re not saying this guy should get kicked out, right? you’re saying there should be another election so that voters, now aware of his lies, can decide if those lies matter?

“everything is ok when democrats do it.”

liberal hypocrisy, always something to behold.

Jim trapped in his bubble restricting his view of the true political landscape is always something to behold. The republicans, the democrats and the media should have all been looking at this con man long before the election. It's now looking like election laws were probably violated and if and when he gets taken down by the courts the ruling republican party will have egg on their faces for the silence.

wdmso
12-29-2022, 08:42 AM
you’re saying lies are ok if voters knew about them before the election. But how do YOU know what voters actually know, and what they don’t know? Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of? Of course, somehow, you are aware that they all knew. You miraculously have insight into what voters knew when they voted.

And, since you’re saying lies don’t matter if voters knew about them beforehand, then you’re not saying this guy should get kicked out, right? you’re saying there should be another election so that voters, now aware of his lies, can decide if those lies matter?

“everything is ok when democrats do it.”

liberal hypocrisy, always something to behold.

No Jim he should get the boot or agree to have a special election

And let the voters vote on the actual candidate. I doubt many Republicans care they did vote in a no Christian multiple divorce adulterer p u s s y grabbing tax evading lier all read. So he has a chance



Seems you just can’t accept that all lies are not created equal

And you sound like a child with your canned response it’s ok when democrats do it.

So in Jim’s world

Biden claimed gas prices were lower than they were

Or Hillary said sniper shot at her plane

And Santos saying vote for me the candidate that I 100% made up.



Are the same ! just shoes how much of intellectual dishonest person. You can be

If you can’t see the differences


And Jim even with Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years. You’ll still vote for him
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wdmso
12-29-2022, 08:43 AM
Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats

Get out of the cult Jim
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wdmso
12-29-2022, 08:54 AM
I am Catholic," he told the Post. "Because I learned my maternal family had a Jewish background I said I was 'Jew-ish.'"

You can’t make this up.


Nassau County District Attorney Anne T. Donnelly, a Republican, said the fabrications and inconsistencies were "nothing short of stunning."

"The residents of Nassau County and other parts of the third district must have an honest and accountable representative in Congress," she gets it


As a candidate in 2020, in a filing to the U.S. House clerk, George Santos disclosed no assets or income — just that he’d been compensated in excess of $5,000 by LinkBridge Investors.

Two years later, in a filing ahead of a race he’d go on to win, Santos disclosed an apartment in Rio de Janeiro, checking and savings accounts and dividends from his eponymous Devolder Organization of between $1 million and $5 million.

That, in addition to a salary of three-quarters of a million dollars.
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Pete F.
12-29-2022, 09:02 AM
you’re saying lies are ok if voters knew about them before the election. But how do YOU know what voters actually know, and what they don’t know? Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of? Of course, somehow, you are aware that they all knew. You miraculously have insight into what voters knew when they voted.

And, since you’re saying lies don’t matter if voters knew about them beforehand, then you’re not saying this guy should get kicked out, right? you’re saying there should be another election so that voters, now aware of his lies, can decide if those lies matter?

“everything is ok when democrats do it.”

liberal hypocrisy, always something to behold.

If allegations are true (and Santos has not even denied them), there are at least two possible federal crimes at play:

1) conspiracy to defraud the US (same as Mueller with Russians in 16 and Trump in 20), and:

2) filing false statements to FEC.

Time to add a third potential federal crime: campaign finance fraud.

In 2021, Santos incorporated the Devolder Org in FL, which has no known assets.

In 2022, he reports income of $750k, all from Devolder. He then gives $700k to his campaign.

Where did that money come from?
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PaulS
12-29-2022, 10:13 AM
I don't believe a business can loan a campaign money.

What will be a bridge too far that will cause the Rs to disown Santos? I think the only thing would be a video of him saying he believes Trump lost.

Pete F.
12-29-2022, 10:21 AM
I don't believe a business can loan a campaign money.

What will be a bridge too far that will cause the Rs to disown Santos? I think the only thing would be a video of him saying he believes Trump lost.

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Doover
12-29-2022, 10:42 AM
Pete, it’s a private company, they can do what they want.

Under musk?

Unless they suppress the Hunter laptop story then you’re outraged crying foul , like the rest of the right wing

So when is ok for this private company ? When they Do what they want or do what you want?
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So youse agree cake bakers must not be forced to bake queers cakes.


Simpatico, sweet sweet simpatico.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 10:53 AM
This is where Trump has taken much of the R party:

When Rep.-Elect George Santos admitted that he “embellished” his “résumé” during his 2022 campaign, the New Yorker’s critics were quick to respond that his fabrications went way beyond embellishment. Santos (whose district includes parts of Queens and Long Island) claimed that his grandparents were Ukrainian Jews and Holocaust survivors, that he had an abundance of real estate assets, and that his mother was killed on 9/11 — none of which was true.

Regardless, some Republicans have been rushing to Santos’ defense, including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. And Senate Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy has been in no hurry to throw Santos under the bus, as he knows he will need Santos’ vote if he is going to be chosen as House speaker in 2023.

In a scathing column published by The Bulwark on December 28, Never Trump conservative Charlie Sykes emphasizes that the Santos scandal is not only an indictment of the congressman-elect, but underscores the GOP’s overall dysfunction.

“Embellished? I do not think that word means what the Talented Mr. Santos thinks it means,” Sykes explains. “To ‘embellish’ is to adorn, decorate, enhance, gild, beautify, and festoon — and on occasion, it means to ‘exaggerate.’ This Santos did not do. He just made s**t up out of whole cloth. He did not place doodads on his résumé: He lied about his schooling, his degrees, his background, his criminal history, his employment, and about the non-existent properties he claimed to own.”

The conservative columnist continues, “He lied that his employees were killed in the Pulse nightclub shooting. He lied about his Jew-ishness and about his grandparents escaping the Holocaust. He used fake quotes from Winston Churchill. He lied about his money, probably lied on financial disclosure forms — which is actually a crime — and lied about his lying. And then, having constructed this Babel of Fabulism, he turned to the playbook of disingenuous non-apologies.”

Sykes laments that because Santos is a Republican, he is getting a pass from other members of his party.

“Of course, a political party with any sort of intact immune system would move quickly to send this sociopath back to ScamLand, whence he came,” Sykes argues. “But this is the GOP circa 2022, and so, it faces a painful dilemma. With a narrow majority in the House, Republicans — and especially Kevin McCarthy — need his vote, of course. But that’s not the real problem here, is it?”

Sykes continues, “After years of ignoring, enabling and rationalizing Big Lies and small ones, it will now be exceedingly difficult for the GOP to find their misplaced conscience that might morph into outrage and something like a moral standard. As Nick Catoggio writes, ‘Anyone willing to set aside their qualms about Trump for the sake of holding executive power logically should be willing to set aside their qualms about Santos for the sake of holding legislative power.’ So, not surprisingly, GOP leaders are either silent, or in a forgiving mood.”

Greene, Sykes observes, is “all in” for Santos. After former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (an ex-Democrat turned independent) asked Santos some tough questions when filling in for Tucker Carlson on Fox News, Greene attacked her for showing “zero grace.” The far-right Georgia congresswoman tweeted, “I think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is.”

Sykes laments, “The responsibility for this entire goat-rope lies with Santos and the GOP, but it’s worth noting that all of this should have been exposed before the election by the local media and Dem oppo research. Balls were dropped.”

The Dad Fisherman
12-29-2022, 11:31 AM
So youse agree cake bakers must not be forced to bake queers cakes.


Simpatico, sweet sweet simpatico.

Oh Great, just what we needed, a “Hold My Beer” moment :rolleyes:
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wdmso
12-29-2022, 11:35 AM
So youse agree cake bakers must not be forced to bake queers cakes.


Simpatico, sweet sweet simpatico.

I read your old posts .. already know you are a loser . But please keep the bigoted remarks coming. showing us your lack of character lol
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wdmso
12-29-2022, 11:37 AM
Rep.-elect George Santos, R-N.Y., said his mother died in the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks, but later said she died in December 2016.

Conservatives love that kind of stuff
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Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 12:52 PM
This is where Trump has taken much of the R party:

When Rep.-Elect George Santos admitted that he “embellished” his “résumé” during his 2022 campaign, the New Yorker’s critics were quick to respond that his fabrications went way beyond embellishment. Santos (whose district includes parts of Queens and Long Island) claimed that his grandparents were Ukrainian Jews and Holocaust survivors, that he had an abundance of real estate assets, and that his mother was killed on 9/11 — none of which was true.

Regardless, some Republicans have been rushing to Santos’ defense, including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. And Senate Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy has been in no hurry to throw Santos under the bus, as he knows he will need Santos’ vote if he is going to be chosen as House speaker in 2023.

In a scathing column published by The Bulwark on December 28, Never Trump conservative Charlie Sykes emphasizes that the Santos scandal is not only an indictment of the congressman-elect, but underscores the GOP’s overall dysfunction.

“Embellished? I do not think that word means what the Talented Mr. Santos thinks it means,” Sykes explains. “To ‘embellish’ is to adorn, decorate, enhance, gild, beautify, and festoon — and on occasion, it means to ‘exaggerate.’ This Santos did not do. He just made s**t up out of whole cloth. He did not place doodads on his résumé: He lied about his schooling, his degrees, his background, his criminal history, his employment, and about the non-existent properties he claimed to own.”

The conservative columnist continues, “He lied that his employees were killed in the Pulse nightclub shooting. He lied about his Jew-ishness and about his grandparents escaping the Holocaust. He used fake quotes from Winston Churchill. He lied about his money, probably lied on financial disclosure forms — which is actually a crime — and lied about his lying. And then, having constructed this Babel of Fabulism, he turned to the playbook of disingenuous non-apologies.”

Sykes laments that because Santos is a Republican, he is getting a pass from other members of his party.

“Of course, a political party with any sort of intact immune system would move quickly to send this sociopath back to ScamLand, whence he came,” Sykes argues. “But this is the GOP circa 2022, and so, it faces a painful dilemma. With a narrow majority in the House, Republicans — and especially Kevin McCarthy — need his vote, of course. But that’s not the real problem here, is it?”

Sykes continues, “After years of ignoring, enabling and rationalizing Big Lies and small ones, it will now be exceedingly difficult for the GOP to find their misplaced conscience that might morph into outrage and something like a moral standard. As Nick Catoggio writes, ‘Anyone willing to set aside their qualms about Trump for the sake of holding executive power logically should be willing to set aside their qualms about Santos for the sake of holding legislative power.’ So, not surprisingly, GOP leaders are either silent, or in a forgiving mood.”

Greene, Sykes observes, is “all in” for Santos. After former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (an ex-Democrat turned independent) asked Santos some tough questions when filling in for Tucker Carlson on Fox News, Greene attacked her for showing “zero grace.” The far-right Georgia congresswoman tweeted, “I think we Republicans should give George Santos a chance and see how he legislates and votes, not treat him the same as the left is.”

Sykes laments, “The responsibility for this entire goat-rope lies with Santos and the GOP, but it’s worth noting that all of this should have been exposed before the election by the local media and Dem oppo research. Balls were dropped.”

why does santos deserve more than the punishment you’d give to democrats who lied/embellished, like our esteemed senator blumenthal, Biden, Princess Liz Warren, etc? Hilary lying about coming under sniper fire, that wasn’t a problem for democrats…

look, i’d say kick the guy out and have another election. but your side would never, ever agree that they need to be held to the same standard

Is there a specific reason why republican lies are more problematic than democrat lies?

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 12:54 PM
Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats

Get out of the cult Jim
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just explain why it’s ok when democrats lie to get elected, but a worse offense when a republican does it

accusing me of being in a cult, isn’t explaining the hypocrisy.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 12:58 PM
No Jim he should get the boot or agree to have a special election

And let the voters vote on the actual candidate. I doubt many Republicans care they did vote in a no Christian multiple divorce adulterer p u s s y grabbing tax evading lier all read. So he has a chance



Seems you just can’t accept that all lies are not created equal

And you sound like a child with your canned response it’s ok when democrats do it.

So in Jim’s world

Biden claimed gas prices were lower than they were

Or Hillary said sniper shot at her plane

And Santos saying vote for me the candidate that I 100% made up.



Are the same ! just shoes how much of intellectual dishonest person. You can be

If you can’t see the differences


And Jim even with Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years. You’ll still vote for him
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i never said every lie is equal. but the political party of the person telling the lie, shouldn’t be the factor that determines if the liar is punished or not. And that’s the i it factor you care about.

Blumenthal lied for years about serving in Vietnam. Biden got caught plagiarizing and telling god knows how many whoppers. Liz warren. Hilary Clinton.

Not one of those bothers you one bit.

Partisan politics is always the deciding factor for you. always

just have a rule that gets allied evenly to both sides. That sounds reasonable to me, but scares the living sh*t out of you.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 01:00 PM
why does santos deserve more than the punishment you’d give to democrats who lied/embellished, like our esteemed senator blumenthal, Biden, Princess Liz Warren, etc? Hilary lying about coming under sniper fire, that wasn’t a problem for democrats…

look, i’d say kick the guy out and have another election. but your side would never, ever agree that they need to be held to the same standard

Is there a specific reason why republican lies are more problematic than democrat lies?
Well you use the same old few D lies and embelishments over and over and over again. The level of those same lies you use to try to tarnish Ds are not even close to the level and # of Trump or Santos. Trump/Santos have told dozens (Trump thousands) while the D lies you use are so few that you have to repeatedly use them. In addition, Trump, Biden, Warren and Blumenthal have all apologized. Trump prob. did but I must have missed it.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 01:04 PM
Well you use the same old few lies and embelishments over and over and over again. The level of those same lies you use to try to tarnish Ds are not even close to the level of Trump or Santos.

why is the list of lies i cite not valid paul? because i’ve cited them more than once?

so using that logic, if you and wayne cite santos’ lies the same number of times, those lies no longer matter?

Blumenthals lie is far worse worse than anything santos said, which is exactly why today that lie is a crime. unless a democrat tells it, apparently. Gimme a break.

Trump is in a category all by himself. We’re taking about santos.

the reason why i bring those lies up, is because you guys get all twisted in knots in a pathetic, humorous attempt to explain why those lies are so much more benign.

“everything is ok when democrats do it.”

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 01:07 PM
Well you use the same old few D lies and embelishments over and over and over again. The level of those same lies you use to try to tarnish Ds are not even close to the level and # of Trump or Santos. Trump/Santos have told dozens (Trump thousands) while the D lies you use are so few that you have to repeatedly use them.

so “a few lies”, at least when told by democrats, is acceptable.

What’s the maximum number of lies that are allowed, before we should start caring? do democrats get a larger number?

PaulS
12-29-2022, 01:09 PM
Since most of the media ignores anything wrong done by democrats, how are we to know what voters are actually aware of?

Big article in the NY Times today about politicians lying. Both D and R mentioned.

I bet you will continue to repeat that same line hundreds of times though.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 01:12 PM
so “a few lies”, at least when told by democrats, is acceptable.

What’s the maximum number of lies that are allowed, before we should start caring? do democrats get a larger number?

Show me a D how "gets a larger number?"

Keep trying to comparing hundreds/thousands of lies with 1 or an embellishment and that is why we (I) can't take you seriously.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 01:18 PM
Show me a D how "gets a larger number?"

Keep trying to comparing hundreds/thousands of lies with 1 or an embellishment and that is why we (I) can't take you seriously.

Biden.

Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 01:29 PM
paul this is just like the kids in cages at the border. it was totally ok when obama did it, but a crime against humanity when trump did the same exact thing, because according to you guys, trump did it more often. i asked 50 times how many times it’s ok to lock kids in cages before it’s evil, none of you even tried to answer.

wdmso
12-29-2022, 01:31 PM
Biden.

Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?

And here it is again Jim’s logic

if they are not crimes what’s the problem

Jim give up . You defend this clown right off the bat. But know since you committed yourself to his cause

You decide to do what you always do try to make some false equivalences. And in double down because you can’t win the argument.

And the only argument I made was if his lies were proven truth would Republicans make him resign?

And it’s looking like they won’t hopefully they’ll come to their senses
But now they are proving that they are not the party of integrity, honesty, truthfulness they’re only interested in keeping his seat at any cost.
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Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 01:32 PM
And here it is again Jim’s logic

if they are not crimes what’s the problem

Jim give up . You defend this clown right off the bat. But know since you committed yourself to his cause

You decide to do what you always do try to make some false equivalences. And in double down because you can’t win the argument.

And the only argument I made was if his lies were proven truth would Republicans make him resign?

And it’s looking like they won’t hopefully they’ll come to their senses
But now they are proving that they are not the party of integrity, honesty, truthfulness they’re only interested in keeping his seat at any cost.
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defend him? i said to kick him out.

you really, really are stupid.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 01:51 PM
Biden.

Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?

Santos has told dozens (on the way to hundreds) of lies. Trump thousands.

The D lies or embellishments you post are not crimes and that is why both Santos and Trump are being investigated by federal and local authorities.

Blumenthal was a reservist and said he served in vietnam - which he didn't. How is Blumenthal's a crime?

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 01:52 PM
And here it is again Jim’s logic

if they are not crimes what’s the problem

Jim give up . You defend this clown right off the bat. But know since you committed yourself to his cause

You decide to do what you always do try to make some false equivalences. And in double down because you can’t win the argument.

And the only argument I made was if his lies were proven truth would Republicans make him resign?

And it’s looking like they won’t hopefully they’ll come to their senses
But now they are proving that they are not the party of integrity, honesty, truthfulness they’re only interested in keeping his seat at any cost.
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Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...

"false equivalences"

Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is Blumenthal's lie not worse that Santos'?

They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?

I'll wait.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 02:10 PM
Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...

"false equivalences"

Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is Blumenthal's lie not worse that Santos'?

They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?

I'll wait.

So I'll ask again, what did Blumenthal do that is a crime? I'll wait.

Pete F.
12-29-2022, 02:25 PM
So I'll ask again, what did Blumenthal do that is a crime? I'll wait.

If you do something before the law is passed to make it a crime you didn’t commit a crime.
The law in this country is not retroactive.
Jim’s thinking of his dream, a totalitarian country run by an authoritarian who will make everyone he doesn’t like behave correctly and control the branches of government to make it happen.
Like his hero
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Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 02:47 PM
So I'll ask again, what did Blumenthal do that is a crime? I'll wait.

stolen valor is a crime. he lied for years about serving in vietnam.

i’m still waiting. paul, how many pies is ok? and how many is too many?

I’m still waiting. I answered your question.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 02:57 PM
stolen valor is a crime. he lied for years about serving in vietnam.

i’m still waiting. paul, how many pies is ok? and how many is too many?

I’m still waiting. I answered your question.

You either don't know what you are talking about or you are intentionally lying. Blumenthal said he served in vietnam in 2003 and there was no law against saying that. He said he misspoke and other times said he did not serve. The law says he has to receive a benefit and he did not.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 03:04 PM
You either don't know what you are talking about or you are intentionally lying. Blumenthal said he served in vietnam in 2003 and there was no law against saying that. He said he misspoke and other times said he did not serve.

sorry, i assumed you could read, my bad. I said here in this thread, , that “today”, his lie is a crime. It wasn’t then, but is is today. true or false?

any special reason why you’re too cowardly to defend your statement that it’s about the number of lies? what’s the magic number paul? how many lies are ok?

the answer is, “how ever many the democrat tells, that number is ok. however many the republican tells. is too many”.

Right?

biden was caught plagiarizing and had told plenty of whoppers to puff himself up. And I don’t really care as many of them do it. but all of a sudden you guys are saying that lying disqualifies yiu from federal government. at least when republicans do it, that is.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying. and he’s an enormously popular hero to the left.

Must be convenient to cloak yourself in such hypocrisy.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 03:22 PM
Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...

"false equivalences"

Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is Blumenthal's lie not worse that Santos'?

They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?

I'll wait.

Biden.

Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?

stolen valor is a crime. he lied for years about serving in vietnam.

i’m still waiting. paul, how many pies is ok? and how many is too many?

I’m still waiting. I answered your question.

sorry, i assumed you could read, my bad. I said here in this thread, , that “today”, his lie is a crime. It wasn’t then, but is is today. true or false?If it wasn't a crime then why are you still accusing Blumenthal of committing a crime? It is bc you are a scummy person who lies all the time. You lied here even though you admit he did not commit a crime you say he committed a crime but clearly know it is not a crime. How scummy is that? You keep saying he committed a crime which is a lie. He wasn't a crime when he said it and he received no benefit from it which is a part of the law and yet you intentionally lie about it. He didn't "lie for years". He said it and then admitted it was wrong and other times he clearly said he was not in Vietnam. Isn't that what you just did? You said something and then later said something else. So who is the liar here?

any special reason why you’re too cowardly to defend your statement that it’s about the number of lies? what’s the magic number paul? how many lies are ok?

the answer is, “how ever many the democrat tells, that number is ok. however many the republican tells. is too many”.

Right?

biden was caught plagiarizing and had told plenty of whoppers to puff himself up. And I don’t really care as many of them do it. but all of a sudden you guys are saying that lying disqualifies yiu from federal government. at least when republicans do it, that is.

Bill Clinton was disbarred for lying. and he’s an enormously popular hero to the left.

Must be convenient to cloak yourself in such hypocrisy.

So you just got caught lying again! It seems to be a common theme with you. I'll bump up that other thread to show what a scummy liar you are.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 03:26 PM
So you just got caught lying again! It seems to be a common theme with you. I'll bump up that other thread to show what a scummy liar you are.

what lie didn’t tell paul? i said that what blumenthal did then, is a crime today.

you said it’s about the number of lies, but you flatly refuse to go into any detail about how that makes any sense at all.

i’m answering your questions, you’re dodging mine, because even you know you can’t respond without looking foolish.

go ahead an insult me again instead of answering.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 03:33 PM
what lie didn’t tell paul? i said that what blumenthal did then, is a crime today.If it wasn't a crime then why are you still accusing Blumenthal of committing a crime? It is bc you are a scummy person who lies all the time. You lied here even though you admit he did not commit a crime you say he committed a crime but clearly know it is not a crime. How scummy is that? You keep saying he committed a crime which is a lie. He wasn't a crime when he said it and he received no benefit from it which is a part of the law and yet you intentionally lie about it. He didn't "lie for years". He said it and then admitted it was wrong and other times he clearly said he was not in Vietnam. Isn't that what you just did? You said something and then later said something else. So who is the liar here?


you said it’s about the number of lies, but you flatly refuse to go into any detail about how that makes any sense at all.

i’m answering your questions, you’re dodging mine, because even you know you can’t respond without looking foolish.

go ahead an insult me again instead of answering.Funny how you constantly insult people then complain when they insult you back.

I did answer earlier. I assumed you could read, my bad.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 03:36 PM
I did answer earlier. I assumed you could read, my bad.

YOU guys said the severity of the lies matter. Therefore it’s worth pointing out that blumenthals lie is so bad, it’s now a crime. i asked you guys many times, on what basis you’d conclude santos lies are worse?

so how many lies are allowed?

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 03:37 PM
paul, i never claimed to be smart. so please point me to your post where you specified how many lies are allowed, and how you arrived at that number.

still waiting.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 04:20 PM
paul, i never claimed to be smartBut you CONSTANTLY insult people's intelligence by calling them stupid and saying their posts are gibberish. So what does this say about you?. so please point me to your post where you specified how many lies are allowed, and how you arrived at that number.

still waiting.

Is your reading comprehension that bad?

PaulS
12-29-2022, 04:20 PM
YOU guys said the severity of the lies matter. Therefore it’s worth pointing out that blumenthals lie is so bad, it’s now a crime. i asked you guys many times, on what basis you’d conclude santos lies are worse?

so how many lies are allowed?

How did he benefit since that is an important part of the law? What money or tangible benefit did he receive?

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 04:22 PM
How did he benefit since that is an important part of the law?

seriously? he was praised for it, and won elections after telling the lies

how can you say Santos benefitted?

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 04:27 PM
Is your reading comprehension that bad?

it must be. in post #60, i asked you how many lies are allowed? nowhere after that,,do I see that you answered. You asked questions which i answered, and you lobbed some insults. But i can’t see where you specified how many lies are allowed and how many is too many, and how you arrived at that threshold.

So either my reading comprehension is very poor, or you’re the liar. if you answered i apologize but i don’t see it. i’m squinting at my phone while watching my oldest play hoops so maybe i messed it and maybe you chose to dodge.

“everything is ok when democrats do it. “

PaulS
12-29-2022, 04:28 PM
seriously? he was praised for it, and won elections after telling the liesThat is another lie. He was not praised for it. and received no monetery benefit - which is what the law really was written for.

how can you say Santos benefitted?

He got elected bc it looks like he LIED about almost everything. Great college education, successful businessman, generous, founded charities, had ees killed, etc, etc. all lies. The truth is pretty much the exact opposite.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 04:32 PM
He got elected bc it looks like he LIED about almost everything. Great college education, successful businessman, generous, founded charities, had ees killed, etc, etc. all lies. The truth is pretty much the exact opposite.

paul why do YOU think blumenthal told the lie?

I’ll
wait. again. coward.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 04:33 PM
Paul, now you claim to know that Santos benefitted from his lies, and you also know that Blumenthal didnt. Impressive mind reading there.

Halftime is over, in my sons game, this is a waste as usual. dodge, insult, dodge, insult, repeat…

PaulS
12-29-2022, 04:33 PM
it must be. in post #60, i asked you how many lies are allowed? nowhere after that,,don’t see that you answered.

So either my reading comprehension is very poor, or you’re the liar.

“everything is ok when democrats do it. “

there are a few posts where I explained to you. So it looks like your reading comprehension is very poor or you are intentionally lying.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 04:36 PM
there are a few posts where I explained to you. So it looks like your reading comprehension is very poor or you are intentionally lying.

saying “the republican told too many, the democrat told less than the allied amount” is t explaining anything paul.
it’s an empty, self serving answer.

you never responded. but claimed you did. are you a scummy liar? or are you still below the allowable number?

this is fun.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 04:39 PM
paul why do YOU think blumenthal told the lie?

I’ll
wait. again. coward.:biglaugh: You are a scummy liar

He said he mispoke.

PaulS
12-29-2022, 04:42 PM
saying “the republican told too many, the democrat told less than the alliedIs that the gibberish you rudely accuse others of or is that just a typo? amount” is t explaining anything paul.
it’s an empty, self serving answer.

you never responded. but claimed you didYou just said it was an empty self serving answer and then in the very next sentence said the exact opposite - that I never responded. This is like arguing with a child.. are you a scummy liar? or are you still below the allowable number?

this is fun.

It is,, I point out where you know he didn't commit a crime yet say that anyways. Shows what a scummy person you are. Then I bump up another thread where you lied about what I said and that shows what a scummy person you are. Do you see a pattern here?

This is fun!

PaulS
12-29-2022, 04:49 PM
Paul, now you claim to know that Santos benefitted from his lies,Are the Rs that shallow that they would elect someone with the lack of credentials of Santos? and you also know that Blumenthal l didnt. He already had an impressive resume, unlike Santos Impressive mind reading there.

Halftime is over, in my sons game, this is a waste as usual. dodge, insult, dodge, insult, repeat…

I answered your questions and also pointed out how you are a scummy person who lies and accuses someone of committing a crime when they know there was no law against it at the time.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 05:04 PM
I answered your questions and also pointed out how you are a scummy person who lies and accuses someone of committing a crime when they know there was no law against it at the time.

Where did you tell me how many lies are acceptable, and how many are too many?

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 05:07 PM
you are a scummy person who lies and accuses someone of committing a crime when they know there was no law against it at the time.

my first mention of the law and Blumenthal's crime...



Blumenthals lie is far worse worse than anything santos said, which is exactly why today that lie is a crime. unless a democrat tells it, apparently. Gimme a break.

wdmso
12-29-2022, 06:05 PM
Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...

"false equivalences"

Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is lie not worse that Santos'?

They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?

I'll wait.

What law would that be can’t wait because you have no idea what you’re talking about

But Let me guess stolen valor act ?

You can’t even read the law correctly

federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.

a Congressional Medal of Honor,
a distinguished-service cross,
a Navy cross,
an Air Force cross,
a silver star,
a Purple Heart,
a Combat Infantryman's Badge,
a Combat Action Badge,
a Combat Medical Badge,
a Combat Action Ribbon,
a Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law

I have 2 on the list .

Blumenthal Never claimed he was awarded any of those awards.

But he did say this

Blumenthal responded to a question about Iran by saying, “Although I did not serve in Vietnam, I have seen firsthand the effects of military action, and no one wants it to be the first resort




yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never.

I have . you still can’t accept the difference . between a white lie
Or admit Santos behavior isn’t just a lie it’s totally fraudulent made up to misrepresent himself to voters
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PaulS
12-29-2022, 06:06 PM
my first mention of the law and Blumenthal's crime...

And then you repeatedly say it was a crime when you specifically know it was not a crime because there was no law at the time. And part of the law is that he has to benefit monetarily which he did not do.
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Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 06:23 PM
And then you repeatedly say it was a crime when you specifically know it was not a crime because there was no law at the time. And part of the law is that he has to benefit monetarily which he did not do.
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I said it "is" a crime. Today, it's a crime.

The proof is there in my first post on the topic, Paul, if that wasn't clear enough for you, then you need this stuff expressed in pop-up books.

I can argue Blumenthal did benefit from it. If you can assume Santos' lies helped his election, why can't I assume the same exact thing about Blumenthal? Just because Blumenthal is a democrat?

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 06:27 PM
What law would that be can’t wait because you have no idea what you’re talking about

But Let me guess stolen valor act ?

You can’t even read the law correctly

federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.

a Congressional Medal of Honor,
a distinguished-service cross,
a Navy cross,
an Air Force cross,
a silver star,
a Purple Heart,
a Combat Infantryman's Badge,
a Combat Action Badge,
a Combat Medical Badge,
a Combat Action Ribbon,
a Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law

I have 2 on the list .

Blumenthal Never claimed he was awarded any of those awards.

But he did say this

Blumenthal responded to a question about Iran by saying, “Although I did not serve in Vietnam, I have seen firsthand the effects of military action, and no one wants it to be the first resort




yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never.

I have . you still can’t accept the difference . between a white lie
Or admit Santos behavior isn’t just a lie it’s totally fraudulent made up to misrepresent himself to voters
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Let's be very clear...you're telling us, that Blumenthal never claimed he served in the Vietnam War? IS that what you're saying?

FFS, it was a huge story at the time. He said repeatedly that he served "in Vietnam", and made references to when we all came back from Vietnam.

If, in fact, he has to claim he won medals to break that law, then you are 100% correct he didn't break that law, and I'm 100% wrong. But you are 100% wrong if you say he never claimed to have served in that war. He absolutely made that claim. Many times.

Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 06:32 PM
What law would that be can’t wait because you have no idea what you’re talking about

But Let me guess stolen valor act ?

You can’t even read the law correctly

federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.

a Congressional Medal of Honor,
a distinguished-service cross,
a Navy cross,
an Air Force cross,
a silver star,
a Purple Heart,
a Combat Infantryman's Badge,
a Combat Action Badge,
a Combat Medical Badge,
a Combat Action Ribbon,
a Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law

I have 2 on the list .

Blumenthal Never claimed he was awarded any of those awards.

But he did say this

Blumenthal responded to a question about Iran by saying, “Although I did not serve in Vietnam, I have seen firsthand the effects of military action, and no one wants it to be the first resort




yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never.

I have . you still can’t accept the difference . between a white lie
Or admit Santos behavior isn’t just a lie it’s totally fraudulent made up to misrepresent himself to voters
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This is from the New York Times...

quotes from Blumenthal, as reported by the New York Times...

“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam"

In 2003, he addressed a rally in Bridgeport, where about 100 military families gathered to express support for American troops overseas. “When we returned, we saw nothing like this,”

Asked about the Bridgeport rally, when he told the crowd, “When we returned, we saw nothing like this,” Mr. Blumenthal said he did not recall the event.

But all you can do, is post a quote where he said he didn't serve...even Paul S knows what I'm referring to.

And this guy will keep getting re-elected in CT until he chooses not to run again. He can never be defeated, because the CT voters don't care about his lie.

But you have zero complaint when democrat voters ignore lies told by democrat politicians.

Wayne, I'd love for you to explain why you posted the Blumenthal quote which you chose to post (also in the NYT story I posted), yet you ignored the other quotes which prove he explicitly lied. What was yoru motive, if not just to serve your narrative as always?

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal.html

wdmso
12-29-2022, 08:04 PM
This is from the New York Times...

quotes from Blumenthal, as reported by the New York Times...

“We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam"

In 2003, he addressed a rally in Bridgeport, where about 100 military families gathered to express support for American troops overseas. “When we returned, we saw nothing like this,”

Asked about the Bridgeport rally, when he told the crowd, “When we returned, we saw nothing like this,” Mr. Blumenthal said he did not recall the event.

But all you can do, is post a quote where he said he didn't serve...even Paul S knows what I'm referring to.

And this guy will keep getting re-elected in CT until he chooses not to run again. He can never be defeated, because the CT voters don't care about his lie.

But you have zero complaint when democrat voters ignore lies told by democrat politicians.

Wayne, I'd love for you to explain why you posted the Blumenthal quote which you chose to post (also in the NYT story I posted), yet you ignored the other quotes which prove he explicitly lied. What was yoru motive, if not just to serve your narrative as always?

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal.html


Wayne, I'd love for you to explain why you posted the Blumenthal quote which you chose to post

Very simple Jim he is admitting he was never in Vietnam regardless of previous comments aka setting the record straight . not doubling down

And seem he was almost as bad as a draft dodger as Trump was (almost)

So there is no law. I figured as much
Who’s lying now. Or perhaps you miss spoke.
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Jim in CT
12-29-2022, 08:40 PM
Wayne, I'd love for you to explain why you posted the Blumenthal quote which you chose to post

Very simple Jim he is admitting he was never in Vietnam regardless of previous comments aka setting the record straight . not doubling down

And seem he was almost as bad as a draft dodger as Trump was (almost)

So there is no law. I figured as much
Who’s lying now. Or perhaps you miss spoke.
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so, if he admits he was never in vietnam, only after getting caught about lying that he was in vietnam…then to you, he never lied in the first place?

that’s some serious logic there wayne.

and then you pivot to trump in order to change the subject…

liz warren lied about native american heritage on a job application to harvard, after that lie she was rewarded with a job paying, i believe, $400k a year. that’s not fraud?

and we all know you continue to vote for her.

Pete F.
12-29-2022, 10:21 PM
Now it’s back to hit # 27 on Jimmy’s playlist, Senator Warren

He does this even though he believes that character doesn’t matter, apparently he only finds fault with people he calls demeaning names, much like his hero.

A classic example of a false equivalence has been described by author Isaac Asimov:

“…when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together.”
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