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wdmso 12-20-2023, 03:30 PM So here is my dilemma 2021 Ram 1500 push button start suddenly
will no start no click no nothing . the remotes will not lock of unlock the truck or auto start the truck
charged the battery 100% no change . however I have headlights, 4 ways interior lights .. still no start
Went to walmart installed brand new battery. truck started as Normal
being happy with myself i started to put away my tools . 3 mins running maybe! then it it turns off $#%$%.. go to start again.. nope back to square one Nothing ! but I know it's not my old battery... i guess that's something ...
My only idea is I had or have water intrusion from the storm somewhere involving the ignition or the starter ?
However no water in the truck on the mats or rugs and the trunk wasn't facing into the wind ... no windows open nothing
have an appointment next week via tow truck... :crying:
That sucks. I bet you are right. Water intrusion is usually what causes stuff like this.
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Redsoxticket 12-20-2023, 07:42 PM Try this.....place your foot on the brake then place FOB on the start button then push the start button all while keeping your foot on the brake.
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Guppy 12-21-2023, 08:26 AM Bummer … :-(
Did the new battery go low…
Leave the hood open daytime for the next several dry days…
Owners manual, fuse assignments, check the critical…..
Merry Christmas…. ;-)
pbadad 12-21-2023, 08:43 AM Check the connections at battery. There are multiple connectors sendingbvilkage to various systems. By possibly replacing the battery you temporally fixed the issue . Water may have got into a connector and created a insufficient connection.
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Rockfish9 12-21-2023, 09:26 AM I dont know much about your particular vehicle, I'm a Chevy guy, but I'm guessing, when you disconnected the battery to replace it you re-booted something. If you had a code reader, you could probably get a read from the OBC - try disconnecting the battery again and see what happens..
This new stuff is so hard to diagnose without the right diagnostics - I'm sure the weather played a part in it's demise.
Redsoxticket 12-21-2023, 10:46 AM I once had a similar problem where the main fuse that has the see thru window to view the fusible link was blown but enough to make contact intermittently. This fuse is hardwired and not your typical plug in so you would have to remove the fuse panel to get to the bolts that mount to the main fuse.
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JohnR 12-21-2023, 10:54 AM Most problems are common within specific models, I would Google the crap out of it and probably find a link to a video on YouTube or something that would have things to try.
That said are you able to jump the starter solenoid, obvious safety concerns strictly enforced particularly if Manual transmission and help localize where the problem is?
Obviously check all your fuses, and check your fusible links.
wdmso 12-21-2023, 12:00 PM Thanks for all the responses and I've tried everyone's suggestions
The issue that's got me is... nothing works with the remote not lock unlock or remote start . must have something to do with the keyless entry module
might try hitting the starter with a Hammer can't hurt :bl:
Redsoxticket 12-21-2023, 12:30 PM The FOB could be defective or the FOB battery needs replacement.
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Redsoxticket 12-21-2023, 12:31 PM Maybe reprogram the FOB
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wdmso 12-21-2023, 01:57 PM Maybe reprogram the FOB
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Thanks again yet I swapped each remote battery same story nothing
Redsoxticket 12-21-2023, 03:25 PM Thanks again yet I swapped each remote battery same story nothing
If you have an alarm system it is possible the system is locking down the FOB for entry and start, just a guess
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piemma 12-21-2023, 05:16 PM call the dealer. It's a 2021
JohnR 12-21-2023, 06:37 PM Go into system menu and disable Keyless Entry, Remote Start, and Door Fob?
Suburban 12-21-2023, 07:18 PM Bring the original battery to someone and have it load tested. The only way to know for sure. If it tests NG maybe the new battery is defective too.
JFigliuolo 12-22-2023, 08:37 AM Dealer. Def BCS/computer issue
Raider Ronnie 12-23-2023, 06:27 PM We are going through this all the time in the auto body shop.
We have to disconnect the battery while working on it for many reasons.
Re-connect and we have to plug in our $10,000+ scan tool to clear codes & or reprogram.
Besides spending that $10,000+ on the scan tool every few years we also pay subscription fees to different places to access their data and still not all car manufacturers allow access.
wdmso 12-24-2023, 10:50 PM Thanks again for all the suggestions
It’s getting towed next week
Hopefully the tow truck driver knows how to disengage the e brake with no power . Because I haven’t found any way to disable it. Online or in the owners manual
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wdmso 01-02-2024, 06:54 PM Update Truck went in yesterday via tow truck for 10am diagnostic today 5 pm get a text do you mind if it stays overnight we never got to it.
I text back. Sure seeing it was towed and doesn’t anyway
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Guppy 01-03-2024, 04:36 PM Update Truck went in yesterday via tow truck for 10am diagnostic today 5 pm get a text do you mind if it stays overnight we never got to it.
I text back. Sure seeing it was towed and doesn’t anyway
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Geeesh
Got Stripers 01-03-2024, 05:38 PM Time to find another service option, some dealers just s*ck, I hated the Toyota dealer service I got, been happy the last two have been Silverado’s.
piemma 01-03-2024, 07:32 PM You don't need a mechanic, you need a lawyer.
wdmso 01-03-2024, 08:21 PM Was updated today they claim they found and fixed the issue
The 3rd brake light leaked which fried the RF unit . So the water intrusion theory seems correct might have it back by Friday waiting for new 3rd light
Thankfully all under warranty
clambo 01-04-2024, 11:35 AM fingers crossed
nightfighter 01-04-2024, 12:58 PM Was updated today they claim they found and fixed the issue
The 3rd brake light leaked which fried the RF unit . So the water intrusion theory seems correct might have it back by Friday waiting for new 3rd light
Thankfully all under warranty
What is this RF unit that got fried? The third brake light seems a long distance from all your electrical systems and one would think it would be isolated enough to not shut down the whole system....
wdmso 01-04-2024, 01:12 PM What is this RF unit that got fried? The third brake light seems a long distance from all your electrical systems and one would think it would be isolated enough to not shut down the whole system....
yes the rf unit was Toast that's what i was told. that the water traveled an smoked the RF unit .
still waiting on the call to pick it up .. because if they leave it outside this weekend it will fry again
did a search of RF hub saw this in a ram forum .. from last year
Since it seems to be a very common problem to have the rear window leak and often soaking the rf hub making it so you can’t even start the truck, The rf hub is on the rear wall below the window.
Mopar cannot seem to keep water intrusion issues at bay. I had a 2015 Jeep Patriot and the first two years I had water leaks from various failure points. Four warranty claims and one Mopar water leak specialist later and they sealed the failure points....with clear silicone... Rear tailgate area, unsealed pinch welds under the roof rails, etc. etc..
I feel your pain and wish you luck. Maybe consider making this your last Mopar product. Document everything in the event it persists to a Lemon Law claim.
piemma 01-04-2024, 04:09 PM I would be wild. It's a 2021 for Christ sake. Come on, they should be jumping thru hoops.
Guppy 01-04-2024, 05:24 PM Get rid of it, go see Andy…. ;-)
fishgolf 01-04-2024, 09:45 PM Had the same issue with a 2015 Sierra Denali pickup a couple years ago and had to replace the gasket which was easy; and had another leak under the antenna module on the roof over the driver side. It throws all kinds of radio errors on a scanner. Now, torque converter issues. Traded it in today for a 2020 Navigator (because I never got my 12 ft Hobie Pro in the water this past season). Lifestyle changes :).
Can't live with them, can't live without them...
Clammer 01-04-2024, 10:53 PM Just watching .. at least when I had a Mopar . they worked
If Fishaholic 18 checks this tread he,ll be laughing his ass off
he was a Dodge mechanic {paid] because he could work on anything .
not BB wayne / but he had story after story plus the ones I heard myself ........ I crossed off them as even existing .
FYI Gale gets super service / she has a suburu
they know came out with a truck .., I always said if they had trucks id be interested. too late now ><< now if ya wanna talk about rush <>< :hidin:
wdmso 01-04-2024, 11:46 PM Picked it up last night. This is my 3rd Ram 1500. And to date very happy with all of them. Except this one. 1st one with a major issue .
Ray what does Andy sell. I am going to looking soon. This lease is about up.. but bang for the buck. It’s going to be hard to go Chevy or GM or even Toyota .. won’t do a ford just hate their look inside and out.
redlite 01-05-2024, 05:14 AM Been following this with interest. Glad it worked out for u.
Go see Andy for GMC
But still get ready to puke at cost of trucks these days. It is getting insane. My BIL just bought a new Yukon. 91k!!!!
I opted to put an engine in my '02 Silverado 2500 that I got 323000 miles out of the engine that Blew 2 cylinders last year. Picked it up today. My 3rd GM that got over 300k out of with minimal problems. Hemmed and hawed about doing it as it sat as a lawn ornament for the past year. Lucked into / worked it out got engine with 128k for free. 1200 to put it in. Most said worth it. My frame Solid and everything else good as I had just personally done a ton of work to before engine blew. Yes typical GM body rot but I don't care what it looks like. Just long term dependability and never had a car payment.
I had scoured for a GM and most I looked at in my 20k budget range were just as rusted or worse and need what I had just done
And who knows how solid drivetrains were/ beat on.
I have still been hearing about issues with the newer ('18 and up) GMs. 1 buddy got a '19 frame is rotted out. Buddy this summer bought a '20 from Marty's this summer with 60k on it that tranny blew 2000 miles into that he got jerked around on warranty replacement. When I picked up my truck today guy had a'20 with low miles on the lift that was horrifying under neath. Mechanic was telling me about a lot of the issues he been seeing with them and that's why even he had recommended a year ago to put an engine in mine. At least I know what I have.
My neighbors low mile '19 ford has been sitting there cause just like the explorers water pump issues. Get ready to sell a body part for that repair cost when they go as they seem to be an ongoing issue. Fords seem to have nicer bells and whistles/ ride more car like than the gms tho
Trucks these days are becoming more and more car like with all their gadgets and electronic gizmos and gremlins. Most will never have anything besides groceries put in the bed. My bosses 2 yr old GMC AT4 has HUD display which I fell in love with tho.
So all seem to have their different issues a lot on how long plan to have.
So roll the dice and pick your poison
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piemma 01-05-2024, 06:12 AM Been following this with interest. Glad it worked out for u.
Go see Andy for GMC
But still get ready to puke at cost of trucks these days. It is getting insane. My BIL just bought a new Yukon. 91k!!!!
I opted to put an engine in my '02 Silverado 2500 that I got 323000 miles out of the engine that Blew 2 cylinders last year. Picked it up today. My 3rd GM that got over 300k out of with minimal problems. Hemmed and hawed about doing it as it sat as a lawn ornament for the past year. Lucked into / worked it out got engine with 128k for free. 1200 to put it in. Most said worth it. My frame Solid and everything else good as I had just personally done a ton of work to before engine blew. Yes typical GM body rot but I don't care what it looks like. Just long term dependability and never had a car payment.
I had scoured for a GM and most I looked at in my 20k budget range were just as rusted or worse and need what I had just done
And who knows how solid drivetrains were/ beat on.
I have still been hearing about issues with the newer ('18 and up) GMs. 1 buddy got a '19 frame is rotted out. Buddy this summer bought a '20 from Marty's this summer with 60k on it that tranny blew 2000 miles into that he got jerked around on warranty replacement. When I picked up my truck today guy had a'20 with low miles on the lift that was horrifying under neath. Mechanic was telling me about a lot of the issues he been seeing with them and that's why even he had recommended a year ago to put an engine in mine. At least I know what I have.
My neighbors low mile '19 ford has been sitting there cause just like the explorers water pump issues. Get ready to sell a body part for that repair cost when they go as they seem to be an ongoing issue. Fords seem to have nicer bells and whistles/ ride more car like than the gms tho
Trucks these days are becoming more and more car like with all their gadgets and electronic gizmos and gremlins. Most will never have anything besides groceries put in the bed. My bosses 2 yr old GMC AT4 has HUD display which I fell in love with tho.
So all seem to have their different issues a lot on how long plan to have.
So roll the dice and pick your poison
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Mike, I am at 251,000 on an 03. Done about everything to the truck except engine. Still getting 17 mpg. New Y pipe, Cats, brakes, lines, wheel bearings, all the front end stuff. Rocker panels are gone and the frame is starting to rot out bu I'll drive it around town till it won't inspect.
Guppy 01-05-2024, 07:16 AM Picked it up last night. This is my 3rd Ram 1500. And to date very happy with all of them. Except this one. 1st one with a major issue .
Ray what does Andy sell. I am going to looking soon. This lease is about up.. but bang for the buck. It’s going to be hard to go Chevy or GM or even Toyota .. won’t do a ford just hate their look inside and out.
GMC…. Wareham
and he has a 300hp outboard for sale…. :-)
Got Stripers 01-05-2024, 08:13 AM My 18 Silverado turned 66,666 yesterday and runs great, very comfortable ride and I plan on it being my last truck.
wdmso 01-05-2024, 08:35 AM GMC…. Wareham
and he has a 300hp outboard for sale…. :-)
You need a new outboard.. what could go wrong. :kewl:
wdmso 01-05-2024, 08:39 AM Been following this with interest. Glad it worked out for u.
Go see Andy for GMC
But still get ready to puke at cost of trucks these days. It is getting insane. My BIL just bought a new Yukon. 91k!!!!
I opted to put an engine in my '02 Silverado 2500 that I got 323000 miles out of the engine that Blew 2 cylinders last year. Picked it up today. My 3rd GM that got over 300k out of with minimal problems. Hemmed and hawed about doing it as it sat as a lawn ornament for the past year. Lucked into / worked it out got engine with 128k for free. 1200 to put it in. Most said worth it. My frame Solid and everything else good as I had just personally done a ton of work to before engine blew. Yes typical GM body rot but I don't care what it looks like. Just long term dependability and never had a car payment.
I had scoured for a GM and most I looked at in my 20k budget range were just as rusted or worse and need what I had just done
And who knows how solid drivetrains were/ beat on.
I have still been hearing about issues with the newer ('18 and up) GMs. 1 buddy got a '19 frame is rotted out. Buddy this summer bought a '20 from Marty's this summer with 60k on it that tranny blew 2000 miles into that he got jerked around on warranty replacement. When I picked up my truck today guy had a'20 with low miles on the lift that was horrifying under neath. Mechanic was telling me about a lot of the issues he been seeing with them and that's why even he had recommended a year ago to put an engine in mine. At least I know what I have.
My neighbors low mile '19 ford has been sitting there cause just like the explorers water pump issues. Get ready to sell a body part for that repair cost when they go as they seem to be an ongoing issue. Fords seem to have nicer bells and whistles/ ride more car like than the gms tho
Trucks these days are becoming more and more car like with all their gadgets and electronic gizmos and gremlins. Most will never have anything besides groceries put in the bed. My bosses 2 yr old GMC AT4 has HUD display which I fell in love with tho.
So all seem to have their different issues a lot on how long plan to have.
So roll the dice and pick your poison
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I can’t nor would I buy a 90k truck. Even if I could. Rams new thing is same body but V6 engine which doesn’t get very good gas mileage over the V8. If I didn’t tow the boat maybe
But then again I’ve seen people towing monsters with a Tacoma
I would consider a Tacoma if I didn’t feel like I was sitting on the floor
redlite 01-05-2024, 11:22 AM I can’t nor would I buy a 90k truck. Even if I could. Rams new thing is same body but V6 engine which doesn’t get very good gas mileage over the V8. If I didn’t tow the boat maybe
But then again I’ve seen people towing monsters with a Tacoma
I would consider a Tacoma if I didn’t feel like I was sitting on the floor
I have been known as "the Corolla carpenter " around town for past year driving our old Corolla that i resurrected
God I'm happy to have my truck back and be up in the clouds again but not looking forward to goin back to 10 mpg
The money I have saved in gas has been staggering
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Higgie 01-05-2024, 11:42 AM Transmission and diff went in my 15’ Sierra at 169,000k dumped it and grabbed a tundra with the v6 twin turbo and won’t look back. Good luck finding a Tacoma without having to out a down payment and waiting several months. The price point for the tundra sold me left over 23’ trd sr5. And the gas mileage I get towing my 17’ cc is unreal
wdmso 01-05-2024, 12:20 PM Transmission and diff went in my 15’ Sierra at 169,000k dumped it and grabbed a tundra with the v6 twin turbo and won’t look back. Good luck finding a Tacoma without having to out a down payment and waiting several months. The price point for the tundra sold me left over 23’ trd sr5. And the gas mileage I get towing my 17’ cc is unreal
Saw those v6 twin turbo models was a bit skeptical . Might have to take a look. Not a big fan of their look…. And do you still need a grabber to get stuff out of the bed.
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