Trump admin is pushing IRS to agree to an MOU that would give DOGE access to granular data on every taxpayer, business and nonprofit in the country.
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Yep yet Trump won’t show Americans his tax returns or tax information..
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You sound angry....poor you...and you thought biden didn't have dementia. OK genius....when did you realize that or still in denial. Nice try at rebuttal. Going to protest tomorrow?

Swing and a miss
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When Trump took office, the National Labor Relations Board had 24 investigations into Musk's corporations for violating workers' rights. But presto... Trump fired three officials at that agency, effectively stalling the board's ability to rule on cases. See how this works?
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Over the last 24 hours, anti-Musk Tesla protests have been covered in the BBC, The Guardian, Fast Company, The Financial Times, and a whole slew of other media outlets around the world.

Word is clearly getting out.
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250 years of unconstitutional actions have led to a situation so dire that it can only rightly be corrected through radical, mostly illegal and insanely irresponsible unconstitutional action. WTF?

The unconstitutional federal regulatory agencies with plenary power didn't become an issue until the FDR Administration, so it has been more like 100 years, not 250.

Our past eight years of prosecuting and impeaching Trump, and investigating him for conspiring with an enemy should assure us that he will not be allowed to escape any "mostly illegal" activities. So rest easy on that.

For a time I actually thought Reagan Republicans would make a come back. Remember the shining city on a hill inclusive of everyone to be lifted up? Hell, old Ronny was the first DEI president!

Everyone is still included in the opportunity to lift themselves up. But even Reagan didn't believe that they should be lifted up simply by government decrees and mandates, but by true merit and self discipline.

“Accidentally” firing the people who keep our nuclear arsenal safe isn’t an “oops”

Why not?

it’s just another example of how they couldn’t give a crap about average Americans.

What does it have to do with "Average" Americans?

Just like cutting the CDC while we’re on the brink of another outbreak

I'm sure RFK jr will do a good job on all that.
Hope he fixes the incompetence that org. displayed during the Covid crisis.

or illegally eliminating USAid which keeps our troops out of harms way is equally illegal and dumb.

So we didn't keep our troops out of harms way before USAid existed? Why would we depend on USAid to keep our troops out of harms way? How about the Defense Department or State Department or the Pentagon doing their jobs re that. Or how about not putting the troops in harms way unless they have the sufficient ordnance, backup and communication capabilities to handle it.
Why depend on an unconstitutional agency that does all manner of other things, including:

Here are only a few examples of the WASTE and ABUSE of USAid:

$1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
$70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
$2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
$47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
$32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
$2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
$6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
“Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban
The list literally goes on and on — and it has all been happening for decades.


But no, let’s weaken our alliances, withdraw our influence and coddle authoritarians and dictators.

Trump's rhetoric and actions (influence) have caused our alliances to strengthen themselves militarily (or realize that they
have to do so) which actually overall will strengthen the total alliance. And which does not coddle any enemies. In the meantime, diplomatic relations with adversaries, backed by a stronger EU, is wisdom, not coddling. I would love to see a greater western economic pact which included Russia in its sphere of alliances.

While we’re at it flaunt the rule of law, suppress the media and eliminate government oversight.

See above for the flaunting rule of law nonsense.

The media doesn't seem to be "suppressed" except by its own realization that it has lost customers due to its own overly slanted "news" and opinion re Trump the past eight years. And that it needs to make some changes in order to continue existing.

This is all very “Constitutional” and by your reading just what the Founding Fathers envisioned, except it’s what they hoped would never come to be.

It is very Constitutional to change the nature of or eliminate federal regulatory agencies. If they must exist, they should be advisory, investigative, or procedural in nature, and should not have power to legislate in any way, and certainly should not have any judiciary power in matters of disputes with the public.

And yes, the Founding Fathers did hope such administrative agencies with plenary power that we now have "would never come to be."
As they noted in their Declaration of Independence regarding the Central power of the King whom they fervently were revolting against:
"He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance."

They would have seen this centralized administrative state with its multitude of new agencies and their swarms of officers to be the kind of tyranny they would fight to be free from.

Give me a break.

I'm sure you don't need my permission to take a break. But go ahead.

I'm sure you don't need my permission to take a break. But go ahead.

Waste of time debating with TDS patients.
But go ahead and entertain them.......they are desperate and need to vent their frustration over the crushing loss they have suffered.
Grieving lost souls. Thats why this thread was started.....for them.

Sort of hypocritical to be all about cutting government wasteful spending and then spend tens of millions of our tax dollars for a purely political stunt like the super bowl and Daytona productions.

Watched a segment of live liberty and Levine Who asked speaker Johnson why liberals loved George Soros. But hate Musk and what he is doing?

Johnson.Praised Musk for being in the belly of the beast. And helping bringing some government as the founders wanted. And fighting against the deep and administrative state. Then went on to say they the Dems were hypocrites for supporting Soros and not Musk.


That’s all these cowards do is lie and lie on Fox which is Trumps propaganda wing.

The only way Soros is like musk is their both billionaires and donors.. full stop

Of course the can’t show Soros having access to Americans personal information

Sort of hypocritical to be all about cutting government wasteful spending and then spend tens of millions of our tax dollars for a purely political stunt like the super bowl and Daytona productions.

Don’t forget 10 people died in floods while Trump took his victory lap


But critics, including conservative political commentator Tucker Carlson, GOP Sen. Marco Rubio, Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert and Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, in questioning the administration’s handling of the chemical disaster. In Ohio.

Remember the one where no one was killed. And no homes were lost.
That right wing manufacturer tragedy



You know you can’t post the Truth here.. some members might get upset.. you forget his week ending trips back to Florida

Biden, who has been heavily criticized by conservatives for the amount of time he has spent on vacation at his Delaware beach house over the years, faced backlash online from conservatives over his Friday comment.

In a related story, Biden will be taking another long weekend at the beach and has spent 40% of his presidency on vacation," Fox News contributor Joe Concha posted on X.

"REALITY CHECK: Joe Biden has spent 40% of his presidency on vacation," GOP strategist Steve Guest posted on X.

Republicans dishonestly is their bread and butter

Here’s a Brit looking at our current situation from outside our box.
He explains pretty well why the average MAGA supporter ain’t gonna be happy.
Now the Libertarian and the Cult member will disagree, oh well.
https://youtu.be/R8BQf7aM2gM?si=hqHelYyPmliaHL6F
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After all we've seen in the past 3.5wks, I cannot believe anyone is confused about this.

Musk. Owns. Trump.

Trump sold Musk the functions of the Presidency; in return, Musk spent $250M to ensure Trump won instead of dying in prison.

Trump just licenses his name to the deal: POTUS in name only.

He sits at his desk and signs EOs “That’s a big one”
Makes public appearances at events at a cost of millions each.
Issues Truths on his social media platform.
Sells MAGA stuff
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After all we've seen in the past 3.5wks, I cannot believe anyone is confused about this.

Musk. Owns. Trump.

Trump sold Musk the functions of the Presidency; in return, Musk spent $250M to ensure Trump won instead of dying in prison.

Trump just licenses his name to the deal: POTUS in name only.

He sits at his desk and signs EOs “That’s a big one”
Makes public appearances at events at a cost of millions each.
Issues Truths on his social media platform.
Sells MAGA stuff
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^^^^^^^^^^^^

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Protest starts in an hour..unless they cancelled.I will bring hot chocolate for you. LMK... Summer is better weather for protests.....if we still have a country.

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eliminating USAid which keeps our troops out of harms way is equally illegal and dumb.
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More on the the good work of USAid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmd0E8NH_lA

Here are only a few examples of the WASTE and ABUSE of USAid:

$1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
$70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
$2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
$47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
$32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
$2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
$6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
“Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban
The list literally goes on and on — and it has all been happening for decades.


What no links I am shocked. Half of what you posted is all BS.

Still where’s the fraud. ? When is Musk. Going to show us what Trumps. USAID funded and spent. During his 1st Term?

But we know you’ll never ask to see that.. it’s not convenient….

Earlier this month the Trump administration described a separate grant of $70,000 (£56,000) for a "DEI musical" in Ireland as "crap" that US taxpayer money was "wasted on

Now an examination of spending records shows that in October 2021 $24,000 (£19,000) of US taxpayer's money was given to the Institute of Art, Design and Technology (IADT) in Dun Laoghaire, Co Dublin, to "nurture and encourage equality, inclusion and diversity in storytelling, by facilitating self-generated narratives from diverse community groups through the medium of film".

Funny how reality never match’s with musk and trumps lies

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/us-taxpayers-spend-24-000-on-irish-colleges-dei-film-project-13309628..


FYI just because Trump considers it waste and abuse. Because he doesn’t like it.

Doesn’t make it so. The funding was passed by congress and signed by the POTUS

Making it a law. The ones republicans find so pesky .. when they get in their way

More on the the good work of USAid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmd0E8NH_lA

To funny you support a treasonous president Trump. With witness that conveniently try to suggest. Everything was a conspiracy against Trump

It’s a pattern with you and others. The election was rigged Covid was a hoax. USAID tried to get Trump. It’s a hoax. The list is endless

Even when we had the Hero General of Trump. Said this

Former Defense Secretary James Mattis once said, “If you don't fund the State Department fully, then I need to buy more ammunition ultimately.” ...
He became a RINO. Hero to zero…. Because he refused to bend the knee. …

More on the the good work of USAid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmd0E8NH_lA

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Wow that’s your evidence…. Talk about disinformation

Here are only a few examples of the WASTE and ABUSE of USAid:

$1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
$70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
$2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
$47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
$32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
$2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
$6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
“Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban
The list literally goes on and on — and it has all been happening for decades.

What no links I am shocked.

Half of what you posted is all BS.

Oh so half isn't?

Still where’s the fraud. ?

Who said anything about fraud?

When is Musk. Going to show us what Trumps. USAID funded and spent. During his 1st Term?

What does it matter? If you can show wasteful or abusive USAid funding during Trump's administration, how would that make the agency not wasteful or abusive?

But we know you’ll never ask to see that.. it’s not convenient….

It would just be further proof of the agency's wastefulness and abuse.

No doubt USAid wasted money during Trump's administration as well as during its tenure under the other Presidents.

Now an examination of spending records shows that in October 2021 $24,000 (£19,000) of US taxpayer's money was given to the Institute of Art, Design and Technology (IADT) in Dun Laoghaire, Co Dublin, to "nurture and encourage equality, inclusion and diversity in storytelling, by facilitating self-generated narratives from diverse community groups through the medium of film".

In my opinion giving taxpayer money to an art institute in Ireland, especially for a DEI project, is a waste of money for a country that is 30 trillion dollars in debt, and whose citizens are suffering inflationary prices for their necessities as well as an impending collapse of their Social Security investment.

FYI just because Trump considers it waste and abuse. Because he doesn’t like it. Doesn’t make it so.

Doesn't make it not.

The funding was passed by congress and signed by the POTUS

Making it a law. The ones republicans find so pesky .. when they get in their way

It is a very pesky and wasteful law--regardless which Congress passed it or which President signed it.

To funny you support a treasonous president Trump. With witness that conveniently try to suggest. Everything was a conspiracy against Trump

This is disinformation.

It’s a pattern with you and others. The election was rigged Covid was a hoax. USAID tried to get Trump. It’s a hoax. The list is endless

This is misinformation.

Even when we had the Hero General of Trump. Said this

Former Defense Secretary James Mattis once said, “If you don't fund the State Department fully, then I need to buy more ammunition ultimately.” ...
He became a RINO. Hero to zero…. Because he refused to bend the knee. …

This is malinformation

It is a very pesky and wasteful law--regardless which Congress passed it or which President signed it.

So, if someone disappeared Trump and Musk perhaps to Guantanamo and the majority of people thought they were pesky and wasteful and that it saved the country, would a law have been broken?
Who chooses which laws are enforced?
Why do we have the rule of law?
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So, if someone disappeared Trump and Musk perhaps to Guantanamo and the majority of people thought they were pesky and wasteful and that it saved the country, would a law have been broken?
Who chooses which laws are enforced?
Why do we have the rule of law?
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Hitler.

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Good to know.

Wow that’s your evidence…. Talk about disinformation

Is this referring to the video? WTF are you talking about?

Don’t forget that JD Vance went to Yale Law on a DEI program for veterans called Yellow Ribbon.
After women, veterans are the number two recipients of DEI benefits.
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Hitler.

“Is this referring to the video? WTF are you talking about?”
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“Is this referring to the video? WTF are you talking about?”
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fascist

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/02/17/elon-musk-x-target-critics-federal-employees/

Elon Musk ridiculed a blind person on X. Then a mob went to work.
Musk’s unparalleled online reach on X has given him a powerful tool to attack individuals who criticize DOGE.

First, Musk retweeted a post on X noting that the “blind director of watchdog group funded by George Soros testifies that he does not see widespread evidence of government waste” and added two laughing/crying emojis. The tweet garnered more than 21 million views, and sparked dozens of hateful messages to Hedtler-Gaudette’s account.

“He couldn’t see s--- … perfect excuse for being unable to perform your job,” one poster said. “The dei blind guy can’t see fraud. U can’t make up this garbage,” another wrote. One person even called for posters to surface Hedtler-Gaudette’s bank account.

Last week, he amplified baseless claims about the judge who overturned Trump’s funding freeze on federal grants that named his government employee daughter. Musk has called for the dismissal of journalists who have written about DOGE, calling their actions “possibly criminal.”

Republicans to cowardly to call this behavior wrong. they actually think they are holding Musks leash. LOL

fascist

Projecting again?
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/02/17/elon-musk-x-target-critics-federal-employees/

Elon Musk ridiculed a blind person on X. Then a mob went to work.
Musk’s unparalleled online reach on X has given him a powerful tool to attack individuals who criticize DOGE.

First, Musk retweeted a post on X noting that the “blind director of watchdog group funded by George Soros testifies that he does not see widespread evidence of government waste” and added two laughing/crying emojis. The tweet garnered more than 21 million views, and sparked dozens of hateful messages to Hedtler-Gaudette’s account.

“He couldn’t see s--- … perfect excuse for being unable to perform your job,” one poster said. “The dei blind guy can’t see fraud. U can’t make up this garbage,” another wrote. One person even called for posters to surface Hedtler-Gaudette’s bank account.

Last week, he amplified baseless claims about the judge who overturned Trump’s funding freeze on federal grants that named his government employee daughter. Musk has called for the dismissal of journalists who have written about DOGE, calling their actions “possibly criminal.”

Republicans to cowardly to call this behavior wrong. they actually think they are holding Musks leash. LOL

I have not heard the Musk version of this, if there is one. But, from what you've posted, it doesn't move me enough to really care in the grand political schemes of legislation that uphold or destroy the constitutional integrity of our system of government. It does appear, however, to be well below the high standard set by Democrats . . . so I'll go with the flow and say that his behavior is wrong. Sort of. Certainly not befitting of the constantly high quality vective that gushes daily from the lips of Democrats.

Ah, Musk . . . if only you were perfect . . . sort of like Biden, or Harris, or Schumer . . . et al.

Projecting again?
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Watch your tongue or you may get a visit from the Schutzstaffel.

Watch your tongue or you may get a visit from the Schutzstaffel.

But probably not from the IRS

The IRS represented a very simple test for the credibility of DOGE. Was it really interested in efficiency and state capacity? If so, you support tax enforcement, the biggest return on investment in government, generating somewhere between $5-9 for every additional $1 spent on enforcement.

Or did DOGE want to minimize parts of the state that bothered billionaires?

We have our answer. In the middle of tax season, the IRS was told to lay off thousands of workers hired as part of the rebuilding project.
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by Will Bunch

The newest dystopian thriller that everyone is talking about these days is a little hard to swallow, even by Hollywood standards. The supervillain is an almost cartoonish sort: The world’s richest man with a drug habit, 11 scattered kids, and a penchant for sleeping on couches (if at all). With his posse of young male tech groupies, he uses his billions to first buy the political discourse, then a greedy puppet president, and finally, through him, the levers of government.
It’s almost too late when the masses learn the villain’s real purpose: To replace the flawed humanity of democracy with machines designed by an unaccountable tech elite. And the heroes of our story — a gaggle of activists, outsider journalists and mid-level politicians who realize the truth — are running out of time.

This unbelievable plot line is our reality, now playing out in Washington, D.C., and coming soon to a closed federal office or downsized university near you. The blitzkrieg by Elon Musk and his small cult of 20-something dude-bro minions against the federal government — crushing foreign aid and consumer protection, threatening the Department of Education and seeking a chokehold over the entire federal payment system — has left everyday Americans dazed and confused. And we’re just three weeks into the Donald Trump presidency that has enabled the $400 billion man.

The rapid onslaught by Musk and his pseudo-government agency, the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, has happened in a scattershot, unpredictable way that has also left the Beltway media in the dust. Few, if any, seem to understand what Musk, DOGE, or their hands-off patron in Trump truly want. It’s true that massive cuts in the programs that empower middle-class Americans will mean more money for things that Musk, Trump and their allies want, including more tax cuts for the super-rich and a large deportation army. But a community of folks who pay attention to Silicon Valley — the new center of power, not Washington — says the bigger idea is darker and much more sinister.

“This isn’t a spontaneous coup — it’s the culmination of a dangerous ideology that has been meticulously developed since the 2008 financial crisis, one that sees democracy itself as obsolete technology ready to be ‘disrupted,’“ a veteran Silicon Valley executive, Mike Brock, wrote in a recent essay, The Plot Against America. He explained: ”DOGE is not about efficiency. It is about erasure. Democracy is being deleted in slow motion, replaced by proprietary technology and AI models. It is a coup, executed not with guns, but with backend migrations and database wipes."
That’s dangerous, because most of us — voters, but also the media, Congress and other watchdogs — are much better at understanding a violent coup where cops are beaten and attacked, as on Jan. 6, 2021, than “backend migrations.” But longtime watchers say the dangerous techno-fascism behind Musk’s DOGE has a long-time patron in Musk’s ally and fellow South Africa-raised billionaire, Peter Thiel, and a key inventor: Curtis Yarvin.

A 51-year-old computer engineer and blogger with a following going back to the 2000s, Yarvin is unknown to most Americans but his radical ideas have grown deep roots in some MAGA circles. In many ways, his views are deeply problematic on issues like race — telling the New York Times last month that Black people were worse off in their freed years right after the Civil War than when they were enslaved, for example. But Yarvin’s bigger ideas about the failure of democracy and the need for a kind of monarch, or a dictator, with the value system of technological elites — cemented after the 2008 financial crisis — have gained admirers that include Vice President JD Vance.

“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their dictator phobia,” Yarvin wrote under a pseudonym in 2012. Yarvin and a circle of “thought leaders” in Silicon Valley and other far-right communities believe that democracy is a kind of inefficient mob rule, broken beyond repair, but that a high-tech-flavored “creative destruction” could replace it with a notion of better government through computer engineering.

In explaining what Yarvin has also called “turbocapitalism,” Suzanne Schneider in the UK’s New European wrote: “The engineers...represent the triumph of instrumental reason in our new century. They fetishize efficiency and understand the democratic state as an impediment to the sort of ‘progress’ they desire.” Ultimately these ideas were adopted by billionaires with the power in an age of unlimited campaign spending to change America like Thiel, who notoriously wrote in 2009 that “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”
Ideas from this extreme-right intelligentsia spent the last 15 years morphing, remarkably, into reality. These include controlling the flow of information (Musk buying Twitter for $44 billion in 2022), a Yarvin 2022 proposal called “RAGE” for Retire All Government Employees (thus, the DOGE-led push for mass resignations and firings of the federal workforce), and the more recent Silicon Valley embrace of cryptocurrency as a tool to disrupt the institutions of a comatose democracy. Now, Musk’s DOGE team is racing to replace the fired or locked-out civil servants with generative artificial intelligence in what a TechPolicy Press writer calls “an AI Coup,” because it “concentrates power with those who understand and control this system’s maintenance, upkeep, and upgrades.”

Normally, these fringe ideas would have stayed about 3,000 miles west of Washington, quarantined in their wealthy California bubble, but a perfect storm put this nightmare on the brink. For one thing, a majority of rank-and-file voters also lost faith in government as well as the institutions that support civil society, if perhaps for different reasons. Even more importantly, the anti-democratic ideas of Yarvin and Thiel found both an even wealthier ally in Musk and also a front man in Trump, the bridge with an ability to seduce MAGA voters, even as he agreed to cede enormous power to billionaires, in a Faustian bargain to gain four more years in the White House.

Trump’s “red Caesar” techno-monarchy is actually just high-tech tyranny. Government by AI isn’t more efficient, just inhumane, and it’s also a lie, because the real decisions aren’t actually being made by computers, but by the corrupted humans who program them. And their unbridled faith in Silicon Valley elites is often an excuse to govern America with the same foundations of white supremacy and misogyny that thrive in the tech world. The humans who pretend in the ethical purity of AI really just want more obscene wealth for themselves and the same impunity for their crimes that Trump has granted himself.

The masses of American people need to understand that we are already pawns in their experiment, and that a small band of billionaires and their disciples played the cruelest hoax of using a democratic election on Nov. 5, 2024, to push the start button on their program to end democracy. Humanity needs to fight back quickly, before their AI algorithm decides that on Nov. 7, 2028, your vote doesn’t matter at all.
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But probably not from the IRS

The IRS represented a very simple test for the credibility of DOGE. Was it really interested in efficiency and state capacity? If so, you support tax enforcement, the biggest return on investment in government, generating somewhere between $5-9 for every additional $1 spent on enforcement.

Or did DOGE want to minimize parts of the state that bothered billionaires?

We have our answer. In the middle of tax season, the IRS was told to lay off thousands of workers hired as part of the rebuilding project.
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DOGE will Kristallnacht the IRS . . .macht uns frei!!

DOGE will Kristallnacht the IRS . . .macht uns frei!!

It’s not will, they already did

Here’s AIs view of the South Afrikaner
https://youtu.be/Zdsd522YzPQ?si=R1M18-OSCfkULp7L
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It’s not will, they already did

Worrrd . . .

by Will Bunch

The newest dystopian thriller that everyone is talking about these days is a little hard to swallow, even by Hollywood standards. The supervillain is an almost cartoonish sort: The world’s richest man with a drug habit, 11 scattered kids, and a penchant for sleeping on couches (if at all). With his posse of young male tech groupies, he uses his billions to first buy the political discourse, then a greedy puppet president, and finally, through him, the levers of government.
It’s almost too late when the masses learn the villain’s real purpose: To replace the flawed humanity of democracy with machines designed by an unaccountable tech elite. And the heroes of our story — a gaggle of activists, outsider journalists and mid-level politicians who realize the truth — are running out of time.

This unbelievable plot line is our reality, now playing out in Washington, D.C., and coming soon to a closed federal office or downsized university near you. The blitzkrieg by Elon Musk and his small cult of 20-something dude-bro minions against the federal government — crushing foreign aid and consumer protection, threatening the Department of Education and seeking a chokehold over the entire federal payment system — has left everyday Americans dazed and confused. And we’re just three weeks into the Donald Trump presidency that has enabled the $400 billion man.

The rapid onslaught by Musk and his pseudo-government agency, the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, has happened in a scattershot, unpredictable way that has also left the Beltway media in the dust. Few, if any, seem to understand what Musk, DOGE, or their hands-off patron in Trump truly want. It’s true that massive cuts in the programs that empower middle-class Americans will mean more money for things that Musk, Trump and their allies want, including more tax cuts for the super-rich and a large deportation army. But a community of folks who pay attention to Silicon Valley — the new center of power, not Washington — says the bigger idea is darker and much more sinister.

“This isn’t a spontaneous coup — it’s the culmination of a dangerous ideology that has been meticulously developed since the 2008 financial crisis, one that sees democracy itself as obsolete technology ready to be ‘disrupted,’“ a veteran Silicon Valley executive, Mike Brock, wrote in a recent essay, The Plot Against America. He explained: ”DOGE is not about efficiency. It is about erasure. Democracy is being deleted in slow motion, replaced by proprietary technology and AI models. It is a coup, executed not with guns, but with backend migrations and database wipes."
That’s dangerous, because most of us — voters, but also the media, Congress and other watchdogs — are much better at understanding a violent coup where cops are beaten and attacked, as on Jan. 6, 2021, than “backend migrations.” But longtime watchers say the dangerous techno-fascism behind Musk’s DOGE has a long-time patron in Musk’s ally and fellow South Africa-raised billionaire, Peter Thiel, and a key inventor: Curtis Yarvin.

A 51-year-old computer engineer and blogger with a following going back to the 2000s, Yarvin is unknown to most Americans but his radical ideas have grown deep roots in some MAGA circles. In many ways, his views are deeply problematic on issues like race — telling the New York Times last month that Black people were worse off in their freed years right after the Civil War than when they were enslaved, for example. But Yarvin’s bigger ideas about the failure of democracy and the need for a kind of monarch, or a dictator, with the value system of technological elites — cemented after the 2008 financial crisis — have gained admirers that include Vice President JD Vance.

“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their dictator phobia,” Yarvin wrote under a pseudonym in 2012. Yarvin and a circle of “thought leaders” in Silicon Valley and other far-right communities believe that democracy is a kind of inefficient mob rule, broken beyond repair, but that a high-tech-flavored “creative destruction” could replace it with a notion of better government through computer engineering.

In explaining what Yarvin has also called “turbocapitalism,” Suzanne Schneider in the UK’s New European wrote: “The engineers...represent the triumph of instrumental reason in our new century. They fetishize efficiency and understand the democratic state as an impediment to the sort of ‘progress’ they desire.” Ultimately these ideas were adopted by billionaires with the power in an age of unlimited campaign spending to change America like Thiel, who notoriously wrote in 2009 that “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”
Ideas from this extreme-right intelligentsia spent the last 15 years morphing, remarkably, into reality. These include controlling the flow of information (Musk buying Twitter for $44 billion in 2022), a Yarvin 2022 proposal called “RAGE” for Retire All Government Employees (thus, the DOGE-led push for mass resignations and firings of the federal workforce), and the more recent Silicon Valley embrace of cryptocurrency as a tool to disrupt the institutions of a comatose democracy. Now, Musk’s DOGE team is racing to replace the fired or locked-out civil servants with generative artificial intelligence in what a TechPolicy Press writer calls “an AI Coup,” because it “concentrates power with those who understand and control this system’s maintenance, upkeep, and upgrades.”

Normally, these fringe ideas would have stayed about 3,000 miles west of Washington, quarantined in their wealthy California bubble, but a perfect storm put this nightmare on the brink. For one thing, a majority of rank-and-file voters also lost faith in government as well as the institutions that support civil society, if perhaps for different reasons. Even more importantly, the anti-democratic ideas of Yarvin and Thiel found both an even wealthier ally in Musk and also a front man in Trump, the bridge with an ability to seduce MAGA voters, even as he agreed to cede enormous power to billionaires, in a Faustian bargain to gain four more years in the White House.

Trump’s “red Caesar” techno-monarchy is actually just high-tech tyranny. Government by AI isn’t more efficient, just inhumane, and it’s also a lie, because the real decisions aren’t actually being made by computers, but by the corrupted humans who program them. And their unbridled faith in Silicon Valley elites is often an excuse to govern America with the same foundations of white supremacy and misogyny that thrive in the tech world. The humans who pretend in the ethical purity of AI really just want more obscene wealth for themselves and the same impunity for their crimes that Trump has granted himself.

The masses of American people need to understand that we are already pawns in their experiment, and that a small band of billionaires and their disciples played the cruelest hoax of using a democratic election on Nov. 5, 2024, to push the start button on their program to end democracy. Humanity needs to fight back quickly, before their AI algorithm decides that on Nov. 7, 2028, your vote doesn’t matter at all.
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Maybe use your own thoughts and words........even if it's hard

[QUOTE=detbuch Certainly not befitting of the constantly high quality vective that gushes daily from the lips of Democrats.

Ah, Musk . . . if only you were perfect . . . sort of like Biden, or Harris, or Schumer . . . et al.[/QUOTE]

Sackless hypocrites says it all and cannot be repeated enough.:crying:
We may have to rename TDS....as it doesnt cover the complete emotional and mental breakdown of grown men.

Hitler.
This what they are reduced to.......sniveling crybabies...making hitler comparisons means they are idiots. They have tried everything else to stop him and nothing has worked. Its all they have left and makes them look stupider everytime.

This what they are reduced to.......sniveling crybabies...making hitler comparisons means they are idiots. They have tried everything else to stop him and nothing has worked. It’s all they have left and makes them look stupider everytime.
I guess then a simple question is, under Trump is the country moving more towards Hitler or a representative democracy.

I’ll wait.

I'm sure you don't need my permission to take a break. But go ahead.
Oh look, he can cut and paste misinformation. Most of those examples of “rampant waste” are either wrong or or simply policy decisions spun out of context. Nothing bad about investing to cultivate stability and western values. It makes the world safer and ensures American leadership.

Edit…it “did.”

If you really want to eliminate waste start with the hundreds of billions spent to service the debt on tax cuts for the top 1%.

I guess then a simple question is, under Trump is the country moving more towards Hitler or a representative democracy.

I’ll wait.


Towards Hitler? Are you really this stupid? Ill wait....nah ...nevermind.
Hitler is all you got left in your toolbag.:rotf2:

Towards Hitler? Are you really this stupid? Ill wait
You didn’t answer the question.

You didn’t answer the question.
Reading comprehension problem.......you are regressing fast

You didn’t answer the question.
Your question suggest you have no clue what hitler did......I dont answer stupid questions.

Your question suggest you have no clue what hitler did......I dont answer stupid questions.
I didn’t think you would answer.

You didn’t answer the question.

By the way..... You know that you are an embarrassment to the fine patriot in your avatar....dont you? Ill wait:wave:

By the way..... You know that you are an embarrassment to the fine patriot in your avatar....dont you? Ill wait:wave:
Are you flirting with me? :heybaby:

Are you flirting with me? :heybaby:
Yes....I think we could at least be friends...without benefits

You didn’t answer the question.

Marsh doesn’t grasp the irony as he says Hitler is all you have, when after a couple of threads and all these posts, he has only one thing to say. That one thing of course has nothing to do with the policy being discussed at the time, or the EA being stopped by the courts we are posting about, its only more of the same insults and venom. Like i said before he is a one trick pony, if only the weather was as predictable as his next response. Even if you pose a simple question he isn’t capable of an intelligent response, it’s insults, venom and deflection the mini me MO.

:wave:Marsh doesn’t grasp the irony as he says Hitler is all you have, when after a couple of threads and all these posts, he has only one thing to say. That one thing of course has nothing to do with the policy being discussed at the time, or the EA being stopped by the courts we are posting about, its only more of the same insults and venom. Like i said before he is a one trick pony, if only the weather was as predictable as his next response. Even if you pose a simple question he isn’t capable of an intelligent response, it’s insults, venom and deflection the mini me MO.

Heres GS trying to get his nose between my butcheeks again....didnt want to disapoint you:angel:

I have not heard the Musk version of this, if there is one. But, from what you've posted, it doesn't move me enough to really care in the grand political schemes of legislation that uphold or destroy the constitutional integrity of our system of government. It does appear, however, to be well below the high standard set by Democrats . . . so I'll go with the flow and say that his behavior is wrong. Sort of. Certainly not befitting of the constantly high quality vective that gushes daily from the lips of Democrats.

Ah, Musk . . . if only you were perfect . . . sort of like Biden, or Harris, or Schumer . . . et al.

doesn't move me enough to really care in the grand political schemes of legislation that uphold or destroy the constitutional integrity of our system of government.

So what did Trump do in his first term to fix the above?


I have not heard the Musk version of this … nice cop out

How about this one

Hegseth says Biden’s IRS targeted him for a#^&‘sham’ audit
The defense secretary posted an undated IRS notice on social media. He offered no evidence that it was politically motivated.


Yep, conveniently after musk gets access to the IRS database.. telegraph in the future

Ah, Musk . . . if only you were perfect . . . sort of like Biden, or Harris, or Schumer . . . et al.

Last time I checked they were elected

Trump and Musk having a joint circle jerk on Hannity. I’m starting to question which one was elected.. either way Hannity is gonna give both of them a hand job… they’re not gonna get any hard questions no, they’re gonna answer any are both gonna monologue and they found all this stuff without providing any information

Maybe use your own thoughts and words........even if it's hard

You have several
Sackless hypocrite
TDS (project much)
I haven’t seen an original thought from you in this thread, just claims that others are deranged about Trump while demonstrating that you’re deranged by him.
Kinda hypocritical, honestly I don’t care if you have a sack or not.

The felon and his co-president are currently engaged in a disassembly of the current government.
Claiming that it now consists of unelected bureaucrats
Hint pre Trump it had the fewest employees since the 70s
Their group of unelected bureaucrats are doing a number of things which are illegal and or unconstitutional.
They have now switched their claim to be that Musk is not in charge of DOGE.
So now we have a bunch of Musk followers and their bots installed in government led by who?
It’s been a little over three weeks that the FFOTUS and FElon have been in power and people are starting to realize what they are doing.
You might also figure it out, but you seem like that guy who’ll have a Trump tattoo on his back.
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You have several
Sackless hypocrite
TDS (project much)
I haven’t seen an original thought from you in this thread, just claims that others are deranged about Trump while demonstrating that you’re deranged by him.
Kinda hypocritical, honestly I don’t care if you have a sack or not.

The felon and his co-president are currently engaged in a disassembly of the current government.
Claiming that it now consists of unelected bureaucrats
Hint pre Trump it had the fewest employees since the 70s
Their group of unelected bureaucrats are doing a number of things which are illegal and or unconstitutional.
They have now switched their claim to be that Musk is not in charge of DOGE.
So now we have a bunch of Musk followers and their bots installed in government led by who?
It’s been a little over three weeks that the FFOTUS and FElon have been in power and people are starting to realize what they are doing.
You might also figure it out, but you seem like that guy who’ll have a Trump tattoo on his back.
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Tattoos are nonexistent in my family....a big family. But keep ass huming like the other fools

There is already a TDS support thread in the scuppers....they can't help themselves

Time for a wellness check on the TDS suckers. The TDS support group ward is growing. So another thread was necessary. Pete.. anonymous sources? Really? Tell us more.

More sackless hypocrites to see.......here and in Canada.

Just enjoying the clownshow you guys are making of yourselves. Where you been? Got worried about you.
Democrats have announced that it's time to take this fight to the streets :rotf2:.
You in?

Bunk beds?....no problem..
But I'm a little busy with a couple of million dollar homes right now. You don't sound to busy...and I see you’re just an amateur but something you could tackle. 😉

[QUOTE=spence;1247780]Million bucks buys you a spec home these days. Hell, are they even using clear trim? (When I say clear I mean with no knots)

Id be happy to answer your doityourselfer questions in the right forum/thread....this one is for the TDS support group. Check on each other often through these tough times ahead.

Maybe try more impeacments, indictments, convictions, assassinations, or since none of that garbage worked.....
take it to the streets. :rotflmao:

Keep crying. and making stupid ass umptions..nothing left for you. Happy to have helped set up this support group. Look to your comrades for sympathy...im laughing at you fools.

They call that voting......as in an election. An election he won. Are you unaware of this or just havent come to terms with the facts?


Are you suggesting that the American people didnt prefer him over the prosecutor.:jester:


Cry on.

You dont know me well at all......i have the will and the means to succeed ...anywhere anytime....and yes Im that confident.
I have gone it alone, refuted pessimism and understand that the American dream doesn't come easy.
If I had to start over it would be even easier. God blessed me with good health, and great parents. The land of opportunity is still alive and well and the last election has been a godsend to those who struggle and strive for success.

More ass umptions. Who is the president now? c'mon...you can say it. Hypocrite...cry some more

Ive come to the obvious conclusion that even when you rub your two remaining brain cells together you still got nothing.

So what. Nothing you or the rest of you TDS suckers can do about it. Is there?
Cry some more...that's about it.
I've heard some dems are suggesting taking the fight to the streets.:rotf3:
He's going to proclaim that he is supreme leader soon :conf:..... according to an anonymous source..... so you had better get the hell going.

^^^^^^These low IQ references to nazis, hitler, ss, etc. are what the American people rejected, and helped Trump win. Good job.
I understand it can be difficult for those whose intelligence abruptly stopped growing at age 15.
This support group was set up for just that purpose.

More crying from the sackless hypocrites. Fifteen pages of butthurt stupidity.
So ....what action will you take to stop this great president's agenda? Nothing....that is what you will do. Absolutely nothing.
That is what this support group is for....safe space for wounded libs to vent. This thread may ease your angst and keep me mildly entertained....with a few good laughs mixed in.
Four more years...losers.

Ive asked questions....several. Only one answered. Of course I believe in the Constitution. See how easy. As far as debates...i will pass.....waste of time with TDS patients.
Will you hypocrites be taking the fight to the streets ...as your elite democrat leaders....Maxine Waters and Chuck Shummer have suggested? I doubt it....sackless.

Keep guessing....you are clueless. If democrats protest....the midterms will complete their total ass whooping. I here there is going to be a protest in Fairhaven on president's day. Can we count on a few of you dimwits to show up?

Knowingly debating with TDS idiots is not productive. Nudging you clowns to expose youre hypocrisy is.

You have no points....and this is too freaking easy.
Pace yourselves...its going to be a long time before you feel well again. Im heading off for work....dont want you fools to think im hiding. Ill be back to see who #^&#^&#^&#^& themselves later.

Cry some more....then respond again and again. Precious

Nice part of getting older....not giving a rats sperm what others think. Don't need anyone's approval and say what I want ..when I want to.
You going to the massive protest in Fairhaven on president's day? It's going to be epic.

Maybe use your own thoughts and words........even if it's hard

Sackless hypocrites says it all and cannot be repeated enough.:crying:
We may have to rename TDS....as it doesnt cover the complete emotional and mental breakdown of grown men.

This what they are reduced to.......sniveling crybabies...making hitler comparisons means they are idiots. They have tried everything else to stop him and nothing has worked. Its all they have left and makes them look stupider everytime.

Towards Hitler? Are you really this stupid? Ill wait....nah ...nevermind.
Hitler is all you got left in your toolbag.:rotf2:

Reading comprehension problem.......you are regressing fast

Your question suggest you have no clue what hitler did......I dont answer stupid questions.

By the way..... You know that you are an embarrassment to the fine patriot in your avatar....dont you? Ill wait:wave:

Yes....I think we could at least be friends...without benefits

:wave:

Heres GS trying to get his nose between my butcheeks again....didnt want to disapoint you:angel:

Tattoos are nonexistent in my family....a big family. But keep ass huming like the other fools

Looking for an original thought.
Are these the sum total of your beliefs?

No i got tons more for you to stew about... i wrote it and stand by everything ...its not cut and paste like your original stuff.
I am your new obsession?
You guys hang on my every word...don't ya. Thanks for your thorough research...you sure you didn't miss one?

I guess then a simple question is, under Trump is the country moving more towards Hitler or a representative democracy.

I’ll wait.

This country's move to Lenin and Stalin and Hitler and Robespierre and the Kaiser started with the Progressive movement in the late 19th century and was put in high gear during the FDR administration and has dribbled, off and on, continuously since then with the rise of our administrative state.

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to begin dismantling that unelected administrative grip that has gotten a stranglehold on our representative democracy.

This country's move to Stalin and Hitler and Robespierre and the Kaiser started with the Progressive movement in the late 19th century and was put in high gear during the FDR administration and has dribbled, off and on, continuously since then with the rise of our administrative state.

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to dismantle that unelected administrative grip that has gotten a stranglehold on our representative democracy.

^^^^^this guy^^^^^
I'm bright enough to let him debate....he's mopping the floor......with common sense.
My approach has been less sensitive to.... feelings.

^^^^^this guy^^^^^
I'm bright enough to let him debate....he's mopping the floor......with common sense.
My approach has been less sensitive to.... feelings.

You two aren’t too bright are you?

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to dismantle that unelected Administrative state.

By using an unelected. musk. And questionable legal theories.

Even though republicans control the white house senate and the house..

And yet somehow, Republicans can’t seem to provide legislative ideas or solutions they resorted to the use of executive orders, which they all screamed were authoritarian and illegal and unconstitutional

Funny seeing people who claimed the they love the constitution but will fully ignore it when it’s convenient.


Hypocritical doesn’t even describe you 2. I’m going with delusional.
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In the Dark Ages if bad things happened and you had no wealth or land you had two choices, become a slave to a member of the ruling class or an outlaw.
Everything since then has been Progressive.
Musk and his fellow oligarchs would gladly reinstitute feudalism and be the ruling class, see Curtis Yarvin.
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You two aren’t too bright are you?

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to dismantle that unelected Administrative state.

By using an unelected. musk. And questionable legal theories.

Even though republicans control the white house senate and the house..

And yet somehow, Republicans can’t seem to provide legislative ideas or solutions they resorted to the use of executive orders, which they all screamed were authoritarian and illegal and unconstitutional

Funny seeing people who claimed the they love the constitution but will fully ignore it when it’s convenient.


Hypocritical doesn’t even describe you 2. I’m going with delusional.
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When did you realize biden had dementia? You haven't answered.....my expectations are very low in your case

This country's move to Lenin and Stalin and Hitler and Robespierre and the Kaiser started with the Progressive movement in the late 19th century and was put in high gear during the FDR administration and has dribbled, off and on, continuously since then with the rise of our administrative state.

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to begin dismantling that unelected administrative grip that has gotten a stranglehold on our representative democracy.

The Progressive movement was in response to the rise of corporations.
John D. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Company came to control 90-95% of oil refineries in the U.S.
Journalists, such as Ida Tarbell, exposed the nefarious methods used by John D. Rockefeller to push out honest competitors.
The government responded to harmful corporate behavior through the passage of the Sherman Antitrust Act, which sought to limit large corporations’ ability to fix prices and exclude competition. Under the administration of Theodore Roosevelt, the Sherman Act was vigorously enforced through over 40 antitrust suits.

Never mind that since the 1970s almost all of our small businesses have been decimated by corporate agglomeration to the detriment of our middle class, today we have Amazon, Tesla, Microsoft, Google….
And Musk has effective control of our government while FFOTUS with his obedient MAGA followers in Congress think they can control him.
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The mandate??

Gallup data from late January showed that Trump has historically high disapproval numbers for so early in the term (48 percent this year, and 45 percent disapproval in 2017).

No other president is close. (Biden was at 37 percent in 2021)

And if you add in his co-president it’s worse
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When did you realize biden had dementia? You haven't answered.....my expectations are very low in your case

You still think the guys got dementia? The guy who passed pass legislation in four years then Trump did.. and played republicans at every turn…. and now you’re a medical expert. Let media’s Fox told you and you believe it.

And for the record I never wanted Biden to Run. For a 2nd Term

And he was 82 years old. And walked like one. You and others need to make up your mind

Was he a Napoleon of crime? Ya know the crimes you claim existed but never found. Or a demented old fool. You and republicans just changed his diagnosis to fit your lie



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Kentucky’s underwater 12 people dead

Where are all the Republicans yelling where is FEMA or where is The President . Why is he ignoring Republicans.. hypocrisy at it’s finest..

This is why I called Republicans cowards and hypocrites they are unable to hold anybody to the same standard. They tend to hold other presidents of United States. Who aren’t republicans
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The mandate??

Gallup data from late January showed that Trump has historically high disapproval numbers for so early in the term (48 percent this year, and 45 percent disapproval in 2017).

No other president is close. (Biden was at 37 percent in 2021)

And if you add in his co-president it’s worse
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The mandate?? The house Republicans has a smallest margin in their history..

Republicans know their base anre idiots. all they have to do is be lied to then they believe every word that’s spoken . Even after they have been shown it’s a lie
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This country's move to Lenin and Stalin and Hitler and Robespierre and the Kaiser started with the Progressive movement in the late 19th century and was put in high gear during the FDR administration and has dribbled, off and on, continuously since then with the rise of our administrative state.

The DOGE kind of stuff is the only serious attempt to begin dismantling that unelected administrative grip that has gotten a stranglehold on our representative democracy.
Yeah, let’s go back to a time where four men controlled most of the wealth in this country. Maybe my youngest son can finally put down his Xbox controller and get that job in the mill he’s always been after :rollem::rollem::rollem:

For #^&#^&#^&#^&s sake

Article I, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution, according to Chuck Grassley and the other Republicans serving in the Congress:

"All Powers to complain but only to complain herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States."
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Yeah, let’s go back to a time where four men controlled most of the wealth in this country. Maybe my youngest son can finally put down his Xbox controller and get that job in the mill he’s always been after :rollem::rollem::rollem:

For #^&#^&#^&#^&s sake

Actually today’s population is roughly 3X what it was in 1910 so we could make it a dozen rather than 4.
Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Warren Buffett, Elon Musk, Steve Ballmer, Larry Ellison, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Jim Walton, Rob Walton, and Jensen Huang are worth 2 Trillion and that’s a greater concentration of wealth than at any time in American history.
In the past fifty years these same people have gained control of retail, housing, healthcare, media, heavy industry and manufacturing which they offshored.
Left alone they will set it up so our children will be born in a hospital they control, attend a for profit school, rent a home, get information from an entity they control, get food from a corporate farm they control, bank with an entity controlled by them but at least it won’t be socialism.
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I see that now Bannon is a RINO or would he be a MAGAINO?

Bronx bodegas are selling "loosie" eggs because of soaring MAGA prices

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The Progressive movement was in response to the rise of corporations.

It was a response to way more than that. The early Progressive theorists viewed the world of their time as too different in its nature to be suitable for "The People" to fully realize their potential as individuals or as groups or as a society under the political strictures imposed on government by the Founders Constitution of a different era.

And they did believe that government was the sole means for that People to be given some sort of functional freedom as opposed to the strictly legal freedom from government tyranny as outlined in our Constitution.

And so, government had to be freed from the old Constitutional constraints of separation of powers and restrictive enumerations of power. The Constitution, if not actually discarded, had to become a "living breathing" thing that evolved with every new generation of people with their particular niche in history, and so with new iterations of public policy. And Policy was the key. And government could not be hampered in its ability to create whatever new policies its experts deemed to be good and necessary.

It isn't necessarily that they had bad ideas that is the dispute. Rather it is the method they propose, and essentially have, of getting there.

And the key to that way is to rule not by "democracy," but by expert administration. So more and more regulatory agencies, now in the hundreds, had to be created to draft various regulations at will, not by public vote--and have the legal power proforma to do so, to execute with enforcement powers, and to have the internal power to adjudicate public challenges. That is, they have the tyrannical ability to legislate, execute, and adjudicate, all in one agency--the definition of tyranny.


John D. Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Company came to control 90-95% of oil refineries in the U.S.
Journalists, such as Ida Tarbell, exposed the nefarious methods used by John D. Rockefeller to push out honest competitors.
The government responded to harmful corporate behavior through the passage of the Sherman Antitrust Act, which sought to limit large corporations’ ability to fix prices and exclude competition. Under the administration of Theodore Roosevelt, the Sherman Act was vigorously enforced through over 40 antitrust suits.

Rockefeller made oil and its uses far cheaper for the public than if he had not existed. He was much more a good guy than a baddy. This is an interesting read: https://fee.org/articles/john-d-rockefeller-and-the-oil-industry/

Never mind that since the 1970s almost all of our small businesses have been decimated by corporate agglomeration to the detriment of our middle class, today we have Amazon, Tesla, Microsoft, Google….
And Musk has effective control of our government while FFOTUS with his obedient MAGA followers in Congress think they can control him.
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And this all under the regime of the Progressive trend in our political system. How can this be? Are Progressives actually human? And capable of being paid off? Are they hypocrites, power mongers, Pretenders who grow rich at the trough of political power? Some of the Progressive grunts that took to the streets and protested early on may have been poor, but I don't know of any Prominent Progressive ideologue, early or current, or Progressive politician who is poor or "middle class. They seem to do quite well, much better than most, in their quest for some unattainable human equity.

Beyond filling their pockets and accruing power, I don't know what these grand Progressives do for the "middle class", or even the poor other than barely functional gifts.

On the other hand, the Rockefeller and Amazon and Tesla types create actual affordable products and jobs and wealth which can all be taxed to enrich the Progressive types.

Russia makes Demands and the US delegation they got slapped around by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov..

and the US just bent over with no conditions of their own.


Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky looked visibly t upset when he gave his reaction to the meeting during a news conference in Turkey.

"We want everything to be fair and so that nobody decides anything behind our back," he said.

Sorry Z Trumps going to screw the people of Ukraine.. Republicans now love communists ... because they are defending western Values ... hint hint wink wink .. ask JD

Yeah, let’s go back to a time where four men controlled most of the wealth in this country. Maybe my youngest son can finally put down his Xbox controller and get that job in the mill he’s always been after :rollem::rollem::rollem:

For #^&#^&#^&#^&s sake

What's that got to do with your question--"I guess then a simple question is, under Trump is the country moving more towards Hitler or a representative democracy"?

the Justice Department cutting breaks to people who seem loyal to Trump?


In recent weeks, the department dropped a case against former Nebraska Republican Congressman Jeff Fortenberry. Prosecutors in Nashville withdrew from an investigation against Republican Congressman Andy Ogles, who introduced a bill that would clear the way for Trump to serve a third term in office. And last Friday, the Justice Department moved to dismiss the case against New York Mayor Eric Adams. Adams is a Democrat but has said he's open to cooperating with Trump's immigration policies, including on deportations.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/18/nx-s1-5299906/justice-department-trumps-allies-cases


detbuch I guess these things are just random occurrence......

GSA engineering lead resigns over DOGE ally’s request for access

The lead engineer for a government text-messaging service resigned Tuesday over a U.S. DOGE Service ally’s request for access to sensitive data, including personal identifying information,

so let review. they want bank records , medical records. , student records. and now government text messages

yep nothing to see

Youngkin promises help for federal workers but defends Trump job cuts

This is why Republicans are cowards

the Justice Department cutting breaks to people who seem loyal to Trump?


In recent weeks, the department dropped a case against former Nebraska Republican Congressman Jeff Fortenberry. Prosecutors in Nashville withdrew from an investigation against Republican Congressman Andy Ogles, who introduced a bill that would clear the way for Trump to serve a third term in office. And last Friday, the Justice Department moved to dismiss the case against New York Mayor Eric Adams. Adams is a Democrat but has said he's open to cooperating with Trump's immigration policies, including on deportations.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/18/nx-s1-5299906/justice-department-trumps-allies-cases


detbuch I guess these things are just random occurrence......

Yeah . . . I guess . . . I think some folks refer to it as politics. I heard that some folks think politics is dirty. Oh well . . . Nazi

GSA engineering lead resigns over DOGE ally’s request for access

The lead engineer for a government text-messaging service resigned Tuesday over a U.S. DOGE Service ally’s request for access to sensitive data, including personal identifying information,

so let review. they want bank records , medical records. , student records. and now government text messages

yep nothing to see

Wow . . . DOGE is truying to act like the CIA, or FBI, or DOJ, or something . . . Nazis

Youngkin promises help for federal workers but defends Trump job cuts

This is why Republicans are cowards

Yup, their fascists.

Yup, their fascists.

Wow you’re running out of content. Lol. Why are you afraid of the courts and the constitution?

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-blames-ukraines-zelenskiy-starting-war-with-russia-2024-10-17/


Trump blames Ukraine's Zelenskiy for starting war with Russia

Russia makes Demands and the US delegation they got slapped around by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov..

and the US just bent over with no conditions of their own.

Well, like you know, as you said, they are cowards. Or Nazis

Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky looked visibly t upset when he gave his reaction to the meeting during a news conference in Turkey.

Oh my! Zelensky got upset that Russia wasn't going to allow Ukraine to join NATO. Like, you think maybe he just didn't know that Putin might object?

"We want everything to be fair and so that nobody decides anything behind our back," he said.

Oh, that's right. Zelensky wants everything to be fair. Maybe he's not aware of that love and war fairness thing.

Sorry Z Trumps going to screw the people of Ukraine.. Republicans now love communists ... because they are defending western Values ... hint hint wink wink .. ask JD

Let's see . . . Russia didn't invade Ukraine when Trump was President the first time . . . (maybe because Trump was somehow screwing the people of Ukraine then) . . . During Biden, Russia destroyed Ukraine, took more land, killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, sent millions into exile . . . This time around Trump is bringing an end to destruction and massacre . . . in order to screw the Ukrainian people of course.

Wow you’re running out of content. Lol. Why are you afraid of the courts and the constitution?

You didn't like my content? How about Nazi?

Let's see . . . Russia didn't invade Ukraine when Trump was President the first time . . . (maybe because Trump was somehow screwing the people of Ukraine then) . . . During Biden, Russia destroyed Ukraine, took more land, killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, sent millions into exile . . . This time around Trump is bringing an end to destruction and massacre . . . in order to screw the Ukrainian people of course.


Putin invaded Ukraine because his puppet lost the election. And lost his back door deal with Trump. To keep Ukraine out of nato.. I bet you think he feared Trump. :jester:

Putin knew Biden was for Ukraine joining NATO or the EU.. so he invaded. Trump admit as much. And now he’s blaming Ukraine

I’m not surprised you can’t see the things that are happening right in front of you happening in real time. :faga: That seems to be infectious to all conservatives who conveniently :faga:

You didn't like my content? How about Nazi?

Are you calling yourself a nazi now? Are you suggesting you don’t support Trumps …. Actions.

How about letting us all know how Trumps actions are constitutional

Or is it only legal in your copy ?

And this all under the regime of the Progressive trend in our political system. How can this be? Are Progressives actually human? And capable of being paid off? Are they hypocrites, power mongers, Pretenders who grow rich at the trough of political power? Some of the Progressive grunts that took to the streets and protested early on may have been poor, but I don't know of any Prominent Progressive ideologue, early or current, or Progressive politician who is poor or "middle class. They seem to do quite well, much better than most, in their quest for some unattainable human equity.

Beyond filling their pockets and accruing power, I don't know what these grand Progressives do for the "middle class", or even the poor other than barely functional gifts.

On the other hand, the Rockefeller and Amazon and Tesla types create actual affordable products and jobs and wealth which can all be taxed to enrich the Progressive types.

After FDR and until Reagan the USA economy and the middle class grew at the fastest rate in the world, since Reagan productivity and profits have remained high but amazingly enough less and less has trickled down.
Meanwhile Republicans cut corporate tax rates, add to the deficit and reduce workers rights.
The current administration eliminated CFPB which directly returned Billions to taxpayers and more indirectly, cut NIH grants which act as multipliers to research etc.
The reasoning behind it has yet to be proven.
DOGE is proving to be as incompetent as everyone thought. An $8 million "saving" has been listed as an $8 BILLION saving.
That is 14.5% of their total claimed $55 billion in "savings" having been completely made up.
Meanwhile the FFOTUS has a presser and knows nothing
SWAN: DOGE and SpaceX employees are now working directly at the FAA and DoD, agencies that have billions of dollars of contracts with Musk's companies or regulate them. How is that not a conflict of interest?

TRUMP: Well I mean, I'm just hearing about it

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Putin invaded Ukraine because his puppet lost the election. And lost his back door deal with Trump. To keep Ukraine out of nato.. I bet you think he feared Trump. :jester:

Putin knew Biden was for Ukraine joining NATO or the EU.. so he invaded. Trump admit as much. And now he’s blaming Ukraine

I’m not surprised you can’t see the things that are happening right in front of you happening in real time. :faga: That seems to be infectious to all conservatives who conveniently :faga:
Pretty good summary. I’d note while Trump presided over his first term Russia was occupying Crimea and fighting in eastern Ukraine, not on the sideline fearful of a vengeful Trump.

FFOTUS really ought to see the corruption occurring on his watch.
FElon and his Nerd Reich youngsters are systematically targeting agencies. Each agency under assault by Elon Musk and the DOGE has a direct relationship to investigations of Musk‘s companies. At least 32 investigations at 11 agencies may now be shut down.
The richest man in the world, who controls more government contracts than anyone would never have a conflict of interest.
Remember it all trickles down and it’s golden too.
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After FDR and until Reagan the USA economy and the middle class grew at the fastest rate in the world, since Reagan productivity and profits have remained high but amazingly enough less and less has trickled down.
Meanwhile Republicans cut corporate tax rates, add to the deficit and reduce workers rights.
The current administration eliminated CFPB which directly returned Billions to taxpayers and more indirectly, cut NIH grants which act as multipliers to research etc.
The reasoning behind it has yet to be proven.
DOGE is proving to be as incompetent as everyone thought. An $8 million "saving" has been listed as an $8 BILLION saving.
That is 14.5% of their total claimed $55 billion in "savings" having been completely made up.
Meanwhile the FFOTUS has a presser and knows nothing
SWAN: DOGE and SpaceX employees are now working directly at the FAA and DoD, agencies that have billions of dollars of contracts with Musk's companies or regulate them. How is that not a conflict of interest?

TRUMP: Well I mean, I'm just hearing about it

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detbuch Is from that part of America where everything is a conspiracy.. and Republicans have never controlled the levers of power in the Government.. and every problem is caused by progressives..

Its the laziest argument they have been making for over 70 years
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Remember OTD in 2022 Putin denied any invasion would happen in Ukraine.

So you can believe his promises about peace now.

But remember Putin has never not resumed action after a ceasefire.

There will be a hot war in Europe before summer.
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Putin invaded Ukraine because his puppet lost the election.

OK . . . so we are considered idiots or conspiracists and must be censored if we say without proof that the 2020 election was stolen by the Dems, but it's OK to keep saying without proof that Trump is Putin's puppet. It gets very old. Nazi, fascist, racist, xenophobe, misogynist, racist, anti-gay, porn merchant, blah blah blah--no really solid evidence of any of that gibberish. But OK to keep repeating it all. And also to saying the puppet nonsense.

And lost his back door deal with Trump. To keep Ukraine out of nato.. I bet you think he feared Trump. :jester:

Is there an actual record of this back door deal? What exactly is it?

Putin knew Biden was for Ukraine joining NATO or the EU.. so he invaded. Trump admit as much. And now he’s blaming Ukraine

Apparently, you're saying that only Trump being President was stopping him from invading Ukraine. He did invade before Trump was elected . . . and after he was unelected. So the smart thing, for Ukraine's fate, was to elect Trump. But what happens in four years, or sooner if he is successfully removed from office or assassinated? Will someone have to make another back door deal?
What if Ukraine had made, or what's left of it did make a back door deal with Russia assuring it wouldn't join NATO.

Too much iffy maybe. It was understood that Russia did not want, and thought it had an agreement, that Ukraine would not be allowed to join NATO. That was not an if or maybe. And it must have been known that Russia would not allow it. And that there would be consequences, serious consequences, if it did try to join.

I’m not surprised you can’t see the things that are happening right in front of you happening in real time. :faga: That seems to be infectious to all conservatives who conveniently :faga:

Well, you certainly haven't proven any "real time things happening right in front of me that back up any of your conspiracies.

Well, you certainly haven't proven any "real time things happening right in front of me that back up any of your conspiracies.

President Donald Trump on Tuesday criticized the Associated Press’s continued use of “Gulf of Mexico” instead of “Gulf of America,” calling it “ridiculous” and underscoring his intent to restrict the agency’s access if it does not recognize the new designation.

So much for freedom of the press.

You can’t see when you’re not looking …. It’s an easy concept to understand.


Wow you actually brought up the stolen election. As a defense. Pathetic

Are you calling yourself a nazi now? Are you suggesting you don’t support Trumps …. Actions.

Nope it's just one of those words that's mindlessly injected into various conversations. Thought I'd try it. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, fascist, bigot, racist misogynist, blah blah. It is rather exhilarating to freely throw those words at somebody. You're a Nazi. I like it.

How about letting us all know how Trumps actions are constitutional

Or is it only legal in your copy ?

Your the one making the accusations. How are they unconstitutional?

President Donald Trump on Tuesday criticized the Associated Press’s continued use of “Gulf of Mexico” instead of “Gulf of America,” calling it “ridiculous” and underscoring his intent to restrict the agency’s access if it does not recognize the new designation.

So much for freedom of the press.

The Press is still free to call it whatever it wants.
They are free to call it the Gulf of Ca-ca if they choose. But it might confuse their audience. For clarity, it should probably use the proper name.

And Press access has always had various restrictions. Access has actually expanded under Trump since it allows access to internet media now at Press conferences.

You can’t see when you’re not looking …. It’s an easy concept to understand.

Sounds reasonable to me.

Wow you actually brought up the stolen election. As a defense. Pathetic

It wasn't a defense. It highlighted the hypocrisy of those who condemn and censor those who refer to a stolen election without proof, but freely resort to calling Nazi, fascist, racist, etc. without clear legitimate proof.

detbuch Is from that part of America where everything is a conspiracy..

I am not familiar with this part of America. I do know that leftists like to refer to opposing ideas as conspiracies. I suppose that righties also do. I don't know the part of America where everything is a conspracy.

and Republicans have never controlled the levers of power in the Government..

I disagree with you there, Republicans have at various times controlled those levers.

and every problem is caused by progressives..

I also disagree with you there also. Progressives cause more than their fair share of problems, but certainly not EVERY problem.

Its the laziest argument they have been making for over 70 years
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Well it's about time for you to stop making those lazy arguments.

Real time happening
Trump official announces that Trump has signed an executive order claiming that only the president can speak for “what the law is”
What’s next droit du seigneur, oh wait he already did that remember…If you’re rich you can….
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This administration is setting up as a perfect sitcom

Here’s the pitch:

They hire back the accidentally-fired bird flu folks *and* the accidentally-fired nuclear security guys BUT they put them in each other’s jobs — also by accident!

It’s TRADING PLACES meets FAILSAFE meets CONTAGION — and maybe also FREAKY FRIDAY!

Need a title.
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Pretty good summary. I’d note while Trump presided over his first term Russia was occupying Crimea and fighting in eastern Ukraine, not on the sideline fearful of a vengeful Trump.

Ugh those things started and were a fait au complete before Trump. And there didn't seem to be a threat of expanding beyond that into the total destruction of Ukraine and the ensuing millions of death mass exit of the population.

Here’s a better peace plan for Ukraine.

“Russia, you’ve already sustained twice as many casualties as the US did in ww2. Leave Ukraine or suffer four times more, and collapse as a country in the process”

Done
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It wasn't a defense. It highlighted the hypocrisy of those who condemn and censor those who refer to a stolen election without proof, but freely resort to calling Nazi, fascist, racist, etc. without clear legitimate proof.

Condemn those who refer to a stolen election without proof, Like you ? So all the court case and no evidence presented.. got it .. you should be condemn prove it or Move on. ..

Again people are referred to as Nazi, fascist, racist, Because of their word actions and Deeds …. You seem to think these comparisons are made in a vacuum

Here is. one I doubt you’ll have an issue with.

H.R.1395 - To amend title 5, United States Code, to designate Trump's Birthday and Flag Day as a legal public holiday.

Representative Claudia Tenney Is looking for a co sponsor. Care to. Help her out.

Nope it's just one of those words that's mindlessly injected into various conversations. Thought I'd try it. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, fascist, bigot, racist misogynist, blah blah. It is rather exhilarating to freely throw those words at somebody. You're a Nazi. I like it.

That’s odd I have never referred to you as any of those things. But please enjoy playing the victim

Trump's most genius lie has always been convincing people the Russia stuff was fake and to this day people tune out when you show them Trump and Russian #^&#^&#^&#^& happening to this very day
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Nope it's just one of those words that's mindlessly injected into various conversations. Thought I'd try it. Nazi, Nazi, Nazi, fascist, bigot, racist misogynist, blah blah. It is rather exhilarating to freely throw those words at somebody. You're a Nazi. I like it.

That’s odd I have never referred to you as any of those things. But please enjoy playing the victim

You don't like being called a Nazi?

It really is pathetic that the President of the United States and the richest man in the world are doing a joint interview together on Fox about how they’re running the country.
Meanwhile DOJ lawyers are claiming Musk is not doing that.
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Condemn those who refer to a stolen election without proof, Like you ? So all the court case and no evidence presented.. got it .. you should be condemn prove it or Move on. ..

Again people are referred to as Nazi, fascist, racist, Because of their word actions and Deeds …. You seem to think these comparisons are made in a vacuum

You're saying that Trump is acting like a Nazi?
So how, exactly does a Nazi act? I don't mean the things that Nazi's did that are similar to what most people do, but specifically what are the Trump actions those that only Nazi's did?

Here is. one I doubt you’ll have an issue with.

H.R.1395 - To amend title 5, United States Code, to designate Trump's Birthday and Flag Day as a legal public holiday.

Is this something that only Nazis did? Is this the kind of thing that existed well before the Nazis and well after? I don't see anything specifically and soley Nazi about it.

Representative Claudia Tenney Is looking for a co sponsor. Care to. Help her out.

Why would I . . . and honestly it's just too trifling for me to get my panties all in a bunch about. Is it something that's going to affect your quality of life. You gonna lose any money over it?

You don't like being called a Nazi?

Call me a nazi all you like. But of course you can’t say I’ve called you
Nazi, fascist, bigot, racist misogynist…. Like I said enjoy your victim hood

What’s up with the POTUS a press secretary.

Leavitt is married to Nicholas Riccio, a real estate developer 32 years her senior.

And here I thought the Republicans were a party of family values and did not like pedophiles or predators.. I guess I was wrong

Is this something that only Nazis did?

Wow that’s an amazing argument. To excuse Trump and his administrations behavior….

Why not say what about the Romans. Or how about Genghis Khan. . Pol pot Fidel Castro. Or his Besty, Vladimir Putin….

Well, now you’re a apologist? And a constitutional expert, who would have guessed

Actions of a true not Nazi

Elon Musk • X @elonmusk • 9h
One of the first things Hitler did upon gaining power was apply aggressive censorship

Elon Musk • X @elonmusk • 4h
60 Minutes are the biggest liars in the world! They engaged in deliberate deception to interfere with the last election.
They deserve a long prison sentence.
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Call me a nazi all you like. But of course you can’t say I’ve called you
Nazi, fascist, bigot, racist misogynist…. Like I said enjoy your victim hood

No but you've said other things about me, even in this thread like I wasn't too bright, or made lazy arguments, or lived in some strange nonexistent part of America . . . and you actually meant them. I didn't call you a Nazi because I thought you were, but was an example of unjustly casting you with a label meant to make you appear treacherous, evil, a threat to America. And if I were important enough, and you were running for political office, I could repeatedly tell the lie often enough so it would spread and become a believable mark of your unfitness.

Apparently, that method has been effective as witnessed by your support of and belief in the labels wrapped around Trump by his adversaries.

But that all was so transparently false that Trump was not made a victim, but rather he was made the victor.

Actions of a true not Nazi

Elon Musk • X @elonmusk • 9h
One of the first things Hitler did upon gaining power was apply aggressive censorship
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No, aggressive censorship is not particularly a Nazi action. It is a common adversarial method used by those influential enough to use it. As witnessed by the revelations of the twitter files.

No, aggressive censorship is not particularly a Nazi action. It is a common adversarial method used by those influential enough to use it. As witnessed by the revelations of the twitter files.

Führerprinzip
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What’s up with the POTUS a press secretary.

Leavitt is married to Nicholas Riccio, a real estate developer 32 years her senior.

And here I thought the Republicans were a party of family values and did not like pedophiles or predators.. I guess I was wrong

And still are.

Führerprinzip
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Seig Hile

Is this something that only Nazis did?

Wow that’s an amazing argument. To excuse Trump and his administrations behavior….

Why not say what about the Romans. Or how about Genghis Khan. . Pol pot Fidel Castro. Or his Besty, Vladimir Putin….

Well, now you’re a apologist? And a constitutional expert, who would have guessed

Or the Brits, or the French, or the Belgians, or FDR, or LBJ, or Abe Lincoln, or Bill Clinton . . .
You're proving my point. If you can (erroneously) just as well say his actions could be all those things, and more, there must be a purpose to singling out Nazi. The actions are not specifically or particularly Nazi. As well, he has acted in ways opposite to the Nazis.

There is obviously an agenda, not truth or reality, to calling him a Nazi.

Seig Hile

Good luck.....these Hitler guys are complete jackasses. Reason doesn't work. I do appreciate your efforts...but.they are sick people and confronting them with common sense seems to worsen their symptoms.
TDS or SHS are one in the same.

"While Trump retains the ceremonial position of Head of State, signing executive orders with flourish and basking in symbolic pageantry, Musk has effectively become Head of Government, wielding unprecedented control over federal agencies."
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"While Trump retains the ceremonial position of Head of State, signing executive orders with flourish and basking in symbolic pageantry, Musk has effectively become Head of Government, wielding unprecedented control over federal agencies."
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More SHS.

No, FElon hasn’t found fraud at Social Security
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-02-18/elon-musk-hasn-t-discovered-fraud-at-social-security
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New polls in Germany show support for Germany's far-right AfD party (the New Not-sees) actually dropped following U.S. Vice President Mr. Hillbilly Elegy's meeting with their leader. As one internet wag observed, "Imagine being so unpopular that you make Nazis less appealing."
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Heyyyyy Wisconsin MAGA dairy farmers...how's that USAID cheese contract y'all used to bank on doing?

What? The contracts are gone and your dairy farms are going to go under? Thank DOGE!
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Senators have in recent days made the case to Cabinet secretaries and other Trump officials to let money flow back into their states. They are trying to finagle exceptions to President Donald Trump’s sweeping executive orders or cuts made by billionaire Elon Musk’s U.S. DOGE Service that freeze hundreds of billions of dollars, including money for farmers and infrastructure projects. That push comes as the administration has also sought to fire a wide swath of federal employees — some of whom live in red states.


Funny how that works

Or the Brits, or the French, or the Belgians, or FDR, or LBJ, or Abe Lincoln, or Bill Clinton . . .
You're proving my point. If you can (erroneously) just as well say his actions could be all those things, and more, there must be a purpose to singling out Nazi. The actions are not specifically or particularly Nazi. As well, he has acted in ways opposite to the Nazis.

There is obviously an agenda, not truth or reality, to calling him a Nazi.

So presenting facts and pointing out the obvious similarities is having an agenda?

You seem unable or un willing to see Trumps actions and deeds in their entirety.. there’s no agenda I said the same thing in 2016


If you can (erroneously) just as well say his actions could be all those things.

the Brits, or the French, or the Belgians, or FDR, or LBJ, or Abe Lincoln, or Bill Clinton . . . D

comment like above is why I find your argument lazy. Maybe I should have used lackadaisical …. It’s whatabouism at its finest.

You seem to still think .. the references to Nazi like . Isn’t based on Trumps actually actions or his supporters behavior..

And Trump won the election. No questions…. But what I can’t understand is all his rabid supporters who claim to love the constitution and the rules of law . Are cheering his anti democratic activities

He hold all the levers of power and yet there is no legislative action on the table to fix or change things others than tax cuts via the constitution that you and others claim to love? And so far have been unable to articulate why supporting the dear leader with out question… is constitutional.

So in a nutshell if Trump and Musk didn’t behave like nazis fascist misogynistic authoritarians. They possibly wouldn’t be referred to as Nazi fascist misogynistic authoritarian….

Echoing Kremlin, Trump blames Zelensky for war, angering Ukrainians
President Donald Trump said Volodymyr Zelensky had low approval ratings and elections were needed, statements also made in the past week by the Kremlin and disputed by Ukrainians.


Today I heard, ‘Oh, we weren’t invited,’” Trump said late Tuesday, referring to Ukraine’s complaints about being excluded from the meetings and fears that Washington and Moscow will reach a settlement to impose on Ukraine.
“Well, you’ve been there for three years, you should have ended it,” Trump said. “You should have never started it. You could have made a deal.”

Exact quote from our dear leader

So Trump thinks Russian elections are free and fair. But he’s no Russian puppet ya ok


But he’s not any of those mean references people have made against him.

No, aggressive censorship is not particularly a Nazi action. It is a common adversarial method used by those influential enough to use it. As witnessed by the revelations of the twitter files.

Ahh, the Twitter files, we’ll get back to those shortly

The Department of Government Efficiency, the federal cost-cutting initiative championed by Elon Musk, published on Monday a list of government contracts it has canceled, together amounting to about $16 billion in savings itemized on a new “wall of receipts” on its website.

Almost half of those line-item savings could be attributed to a single $8 billion contract for the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. But it appears that the DOGE list vastly overstated the actual intended value of that contract. A closer scrutiny of a federal database shows that a recent version of the contract was for $8 million, not $8 billion. A larger total savings number published on the site, $55 billion, lacked specific documentation.
A bunch of incompetent work, by people operating far beyond their capabilities.

This is absolutely the Twitter Files for the government.

Elon wanted to humiliate his enemies. But what Twitter Files showed was generally careful governance, some bad calls, & stuff taken out of context by “journalists” who didn’t understand the basics. Same here.

It’s the same methodology boosted by the same people.

Crawl through a bunch of stuff, find something that seems outrageous, make an online mob lose their minds. Destroy work, upend lives. Get it totally wrong, move to the next thing.

This time it’s not online governance, it’s actual government.
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I’m some respects Trump is worse than Hitler. Hitler and his cabal figured out how to seize absolute power largely within an existing legal structure. Trump hasn’t, and our system has many more safeguards so he’s testing the limits of authority to circumvent the law.

Congress has already surrendered, if the courts don’t stand up we may never see the mid-terms.

I’m some respects Trump is worse than Hitler. Hitler and his cabal figured out how to seize absolute power largely within an existing legal structure. Trump hasn’t, and our system has many more safeguards so he’s testing the limits of authority to circumvent the law.

Congress has already surrendered, if the courts don’t stand up we may never see the mid-terms.

There’s a good thread on Bluesky about this by Walter Olsen
“If I'm reading the White House's fact sheet correctly -- the text of the actual EO doesn't seem to have been posted yet -- today's new executive order is momentous but not because it aggresses against the role of the courts or touches off any sort of constitutional crisis. /1”
https://bsky.app/profile/walterolson.bsky.social/post/3liimffwsas26
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Good luck.....these Hitler guys are complete jackasses. Reason doesn't work. I do appreciate your efforts...but.they are sick people and confronting them with common sense seems to worsen their symptoms.
TDS or SHS are one in the same.

Your right. I gave it a shot. Not worth it. I think it best if we just STFU and let them totally own the forum with their unopposed rants. I think, after a while, most members would begin to find it boring, and then tune out as the total circle jerk drones on and on. I'm out.

Your right. I gave it a shot. Not worth it. I think it best if we just STFU and let them totally own the forum with their unopposed rants. I think, after a while, most members would begin to find it boring, and then tune out as the total circle jerk drones on and on. I'm out.

Awe crap. It was great how you mopped the floor while you were here. Peace

Now they’re attacking Dolly Parton
A teacher in Warrick County is speaking out after Indiana Governor Mike Braun removed Dolly Parton’s “Imagination Library” from the state’s budget.

Imagination Library is a book-gifting program for children under 5 in hopes of fostering early literacy.

With the pending removal from the state’s budget, the program will have no funding to get books into the hands of families.
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Here we go

The Trump administration has just told a federal judge in a court filing that it will not comply with the court's order to resume funding for USAID and State Department foreign assistance.
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Awe crap. It was great how you mopped the floor while you were here. Peace


own the forum with their unopposed rants.

thats funny .. i'll be impressed when you to actually provide some facts to back up. or counter Actual news stories and Actions and words of the sitting POTUS.

until then. keep thinking your comments are thoughtful positions:jump:

here's another factoid. or i guess another Rant.

its sad Zelinsky need to correct our President with actual facts

Zelensky has chosen to point out publicly where Trump is wrong (and Putin). It’s not 4% support for his presidency, for example, it’s 57%. Not $500bn in US support to Ukraine, more like $100bn.

Donald Trump is “living in a disinformation space”, Zelensky says, but he even couches that in talk of respect and gratitude. It can’t be easy to watch your closest ally suddenly switch position on all that is important to you.

US President Donald Trump's administration is attempting to rehire officials with the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) who worked on the government response to bird flu before being fired over the weekend,
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjev24184vjo

own the forum with their unopposed rants.

thats funny .. i'll be impressed when you to actually provide some facts to back up. or counter Actual news stories and Actions and words of the sitting POTUS.

until then. keep thinking your comments are thoughtful positions:jump:

here's another factoid. or i guess another Rant.

its sad Zelinsky need to correct our President with actual facts

Zelensky has chosen to point out publicly where Trump is wrong (and Putin). It’s not 4% support for his presidency, for example, it’s 57%. Not $500bn in US support to Ukraine, more like $100bn.

Donald Trump is “living in a disinformation space”, Zelensky says, but he even couches that in talk of respect and gratitude. It can’t be easy to watch your closest ally suddenly switch position on all that is important to you.

US President Donald Trump's administration is attempting to rehire officials with the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) who worked on the government response to bird flu before being fired over the weekend,
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cjev24184vjo

Democrats lost and now they are crushed ....bout sums it up.

Congratulations MAGA
FFOTUS repeats verbatim Russian propaganda

You’re now on Putin’s side

Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump
Think of it, a modestly successful comedian, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, talked the United States of America into spending $350 Billion Dollars, to go into a War that couldn't be won, that never had to start, but a War that he, without the U.S. and "TRUMP," will never be able to settle. The United States has spent $200 Billion Dollars more than Europe, and Europe's money is guaranteed, while the United States will get nothing back. Why didn't Sleepy Joe Biden demand Equalization, in that this War is far more important to Europe than it is to us - We have a big, beautiful Ocean as separation. On top of this, Zelenskyy admits that half of the money we sent him is "MISSING." He refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls, and the only thing he was good at was playing Biden "like a fiddle." A Dictator without Elections, Zelenskyy better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left. In the meantime, we are successfully negotiating an end to the War with Russia, something all admit only "TRUMP," and the Trump Administration, can do. Biden never tried, Europe has failed to bring Peace, and Zelenskyy probably wants to keep the "gravy train" going. I love Ukraine, but Zelenskyy has done a terrible job, his Country is shattered, and MILLIONS have unnecessarily died - And so it continues.....
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The world will never forget that the USA was in Budapest
The memoranda, signed in Patria Hall at the Budapest Convention Center with U.S. Ambassador Donald M. Blinken amongst others in attendance, prohibited Russia, the United States and the United Kingdom from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations." As a result of other agreements and the memorandum, between 1993 and 1996, Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine gave up their nuclear weapons.

At this point, Zelenskyy should not participate in any peace talks which involve the Trump administration.

He should demand that Europe lead the way-and guarantee Ukraine’s safety if a deal can be reached.

Clearly, the US is spouting Putin’s talking points and cannot be trusted to negotiate honestly.

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Last night, Trump promised he wouldn't touch Medicaid.

This morning, Trump endorsed the House Republican plan to slash Medicaid.

It's smoke and mirrors: Trump and Republicans are plotting to take away health care from millions of people to pay for tax breaks for billionaires.
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I find it unusual that their are some so Upset with the references to Naziish. or Fascist or authoritarianism.. as if they are just assigned without Thought or research or a basic criteria...

So to keep the example easy lets say. we identified. 25 examples in Trumps Administration or direct quotes .. that lead to the determination

We feel they fit falling in Naziish. or Fascist or authoritarianism or all of the above.

Our Republican and conservative members. in an attempt to discredit our observations. want to suggest. via whataboutism that others should also be considered Naziish. or Fascist or authoritarianism..

And their Logic is. lets take Bill Clinton. they suggest that if Bill had example 1 out of 25 of our examples in his administration.. why isn't he considered aNaziish. or Fascist or authoritarianism

Or how about Brits, maybe they have 1 , 4 and 8 out of 25. or the French, or the Belgians, or FDR, or LBJ, or Abe Lincoln

They want us to accept it's all the same! there are no degrees of behavior if you have any 1 of our 25 examples you are the same :hihi:

its like suggesting water is no less dangerous when boiled because it's still water .. even when a chart suggest otherwise.

its disingenuous. all to defend the Man. as if everything he has done to Date would be defended by them with the same commitment and zeal if Harris was elected and did the exact same thing. with Musk sitting by her side. or Soros ... but I do know. I wouldn't be giving Harris a pass like republicans are giving Musk and Trump

yep MAG you weren't lied to.

Awe ...
See what you've done....chased away the only intellectual and now your stuck with me
el Blanco diablo

Awe ...
See what you've done....chased away the only intellectual and now your stuck with me
el Blanco diablo

In a post Wednesday on Truth Social, Trump went on to describe Zelensky as “a Dictator without Elections,” who was soon going to lose his country. The comment was immediately the top of the news in Russian media outlets.

keep cheering on your cowardly man crush.

Nah ...i think he is unattractive...but he took a bullet in the ear and came up defiant....that's more of a man than any of us....yeah...were you disappointed?

You’re now on Putin’s side

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I think he has a man's crush on Putin bc Trump is hoping at the next G8 meeting he'll have Putin invited and then not everyone will be in a group looking over at Trump standing alone and laughing at him.

In a post Wednesday on Truth Social, Trump went on to describe Zelensky as “a Dictator without Elections,” who was soon going to lose his country. The comment was immediately the top of the news in Russian media outlets.

keep cheering on your cowardly man crush.
Ukraine is likely done, Trump has totally thrown it under the bus and I’m not sure Europe will back them without US leadership. Rubio is totally out gunned against Labrov and is just there to fly the plane into the ground. I’m guessing the US gets NOTHING from this other than Trump claiming he ended the war.

Hey Marsh, вы говорите по русски?

I almost wonder if most of Trump’s disdain for Zelensky is simply because he wouldn’t make up dirt on Biden,

I almost wonder if most of Trump’s disdain for Zelensky is simply because he wouldn’t make up dirt on Biden,

Certainly, but Zelensky doesn’t like Trump and is vocal about it, that and Trumps bromance with Putin spells the end of Ukraine. When he pulls out of nato, which I suspect he is thinking about, our security and status in the world will be greatly diminished.

Certainly, but Zelensky doesn’t like Trump and is vocal about it, that and Trumps bromance with Putin spells the end of Ukraine. When he pulls out of nato, which I suspect he is thinking about, our security and status in the world will be greatly diminished.
Interesting piece I read about how Trump dismantling the US led global order that’s led to 80 years of relative stability is going to usher in a new nuclear era where everybody is out for themselves.

Ukraine is likely done, Trump has totally thrown it under the bus and I’m not sure Europe will back them without US leadership. Rubio is totally out gunned against Labrov and is just there to fly the plane into the ground. I’m guessing the US gets NOTHING from this other than Trump claiming he ended the war.

Hey Marsh, вы говорите по русски?
Awe spence
You'll have to play that game by yourself. Or with yourself

There have been rumors, for years, that Zelinsky has been quietly "squirreling" away millions of US aid in Swiss bank accounts.

https://youtu.be/ujzzdutMo2o?si=Y2JS5bLemNLaOjPo
Go ahead it is on topic so...

There have been rumors, for years, that Zelinsky has been quietly "squirreling" away millions of US aid in Swiss bank accounts.
This is true. What’s also true is that the rumors started in Russia.

This is true. What’s also true is that the rumors started in Russia.

Spence remember...."its not a lie if you believe it" I can't help it you clowns are funny

Spence remember...."its not a lie if you believe it" I can't help it you clowns are funny
What’s funny is how butthurt you are over Canadian hockey fans yet you’ll side with the communists. Wait, that’s not funny, what a patriot.

What’s funny is how butthurt you are over Canadian hockey fans yet you’ll side with the communists. Wait, that’s not funny, what a patriot.

Butthurt....hell no....loving it...payback a bitch for stupid...you guys are like Canadians sad from losing so much

Nah ...i think he is unattractive...but he took a bullet in the ear and came up defiant....that's more of a man than any of us....yeah...were you disappointed?

He took a bullet in the ear.

Man you still can’t tell the truth . I am shocked.
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Butthurt....hell no....loving it...payback a bitch for stupid...you guys are like Canadians sad from losing so much

Just wait till you looose your social security and medicare
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MAGA Marsh

He’s waiting for you to pledge fealty to him, the Republican Senators already have

Donald J. Trump & @realDonald Trump
CONGESTION PRICING IS DEAD. Manhattan, and all of New York, is SAVED. LONG LIVE THE KING!
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Just wait till you looose your social security and medicare
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He won’t need it, the man is so talented he’ll have work well into his late 90’s

I’m trying to figure out what he thinks he won…
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He won’t need it, the man is so talented he’ll have work well into his late 90’s

Hate and Jelousy...wow
True enough about my talent though....you hyenas keep yelping. Strength in numbers here should help....but it's really not. SHS

Those Who Say (X) Agency Should Be Eliminated:

DOGE: 25%
USAID: 21%
DOE: 17%
IRS: 13%
FEMA: 11%

EPA: 8%
CDC: 7%
CFPB: 7%
ICE: 5%
FBI: 4%
NWS: 2%
DOD: 1%

YouGov / Feb 18, 2025 / n=1603
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https://youtu.be/rKBM2kS6B8o?si=LKwYAVGWfWSAnMTn
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FFOTUS: "We're gonna spend hundreds of millions of dollars advertising how bad drugs are so that kids don't use them."

I’m sorry but there was only one Nancy Reagan, please don’t google that…
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He took a bullet in the ear.

Man you still can’t tell the truth . I am shocked.
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^^^^^and the stupidest post award goes to......wfsmo
Oh wait.....he didn't get shot?
Omg did you?

Just wait till you looose your social security and medicare
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Keep your hopes up....and pray.

He won’t need it, the man is so talented he’ll have work well into his late 90’s

That flag in your avatar shows where your allegiance resides.
Just a few hours drive......much better. Need a lift?
Ill check back on you clowns...eh I mean patients later. An aide will be by to change your diapers so you wont cry.
If i missed anybody im sorry.

That flag in your avatar shows where your allegiance resides.
Just a few hours drive......much better. Need a lift?
Ill check back on you clowns...eh I mean patients later. An aide will be by to change your diapers so you wont cry.
If i missed anybody im sorry.
You don’t know much about my allegiances. Besides, we’re all Canadiens.

You don’t know much about my allegiances. Besides, we’re all Canadiens.
I know you have the Canadian...not Canadien flag in your avatar.

So learn how to spell it first before you commit. Bon jour. when you packing?
I spell it this way.....Sackless hypocrites up north

I know you have the Canadian...not Canadien flag in your avatar.

So learn how to spell it first before you commit. Bon jour. when you packing?
I spell it this way.....Sackless hypocrites up north
Ok super genius. Since you’ve confessed childhood concussions on the ice might be the root cause of your aberrant thinking I’ll let our friends up north correct you in a manner that possibly may get through.

Ok super genius. Since you’ve confessed childhood concussions on the ice might be the root cause of your aberrant thinking I’ll let our friends up north correct you in a manner that possibly may get through.

Won’t happen a mini me’s moto is we are never wrong.

^^^^^and the stupidest post award goes to......wfsmo
Oh wait.....he didn't get shot?
Omg did you?

No I got blown up in a humvee …. Got an a concussion and continued the mission. And I’ve been shot At. Since you’re asking. Trump was shot at. See the difference

But you’re so dishonest you claim he was shot…. That’s why I call say your a coward like most Trump supporters. Who are afraid to tell the Truth. Or even admit their dear leader loves Putin. Or lies 24x7….

Ok super genius. Since you’ve confessed childhood concussions on the ice might be the root cause of your aberrant thinking I’ll let our friends up north correct you in a manner that possibly may get through.

Hey dummy that's the French version....you know the inventors of the white surrender flag....we speak English here. Et vous?
I can take a hit and give back with interest. Yeah those knocks to the head must be why a can't build a birdhouse without help.
Sorry GS...I didn't see you there behind me. There there

Half of Trump’s first month in office saw him visiting Trump properties
On one-third of the first 31 days of his second term, Trump played golf.

Yet Republicans when Biden was in office complained he was always on vacation


What happen to no working from home?

No I got blown up in a humvee …. Got an a concussion and continued the mission. And I’ve been shot At. Since you’re asking. Trump was shot at. See the difference

But you’re so dishonest you claim he was shot…. That’s why I call say your a coward like most Trump supporters. Who are afraid to tell the Truth. Or even admit their dear leader loves Putin. Or lies 24x7….

hit by a bullet fired from an assassin. Also completed his mission....he is your president if you are an american. Thats the difference there big fella.

Here’s a NFL player’s opinion of MAGA

Hello, my name is Chris Kluwe and I'm a 15 year HB resident here to speak out against the current city council.
As the community made clear at the Library commission meeting last Tuesday, everyone is in favor of a plaque to celebrate the library, but the vast, VAST majority are against including a MAGA acrostic as the centrally defining feature (I'm ignoring the general ugliness of the design itself).
Unfortunately, it is *also* clear that this council does not care what we as a community want, so I'd like to take my time to talk about what MAGA has stood for these past three weeks.
MAGA stands for trying to erase trans people from existence.
https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/trumps-executive-orders-promoting-sex-discrimination-explained
MAGA stands for resegregation and racism.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/diversity/race-ethnicity/2025/02/15/trump-admin-threatens-rescind-federal-funds-over-dei
MAGA stands for censorship and book bans.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/13/pentagon-schools-closed-libraries-trump
MAGA stands for firing air traffic controllers while planes are crashing.
https://apnews.com/article/doge-faa-air-traffic-firings-safety-67981aec33b6ee72cbad8dcee31f3437
MAGA stands for firing the people overseeing our nuclear arsenal.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-wants-un-fire-nuclear-safety-workers-cant-figure-rcna192345
MAGA stands for firing military veterans and those serving them at the VA, including canceling research on veteran suicide, opioid addiction, and medical issues related to burn pits.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/02/14/1000-va-employees-lose-jobs-federal-worker-purge.html
MAGA stands for cutting funds to education, including for disabled children.
https://www.al.com/news/2025/02/trump-budget-cuts-threaten-alabama-program-for-those-with-mental-health-challenges-advocates-say.html
MAGA stands for a heroin-snorting junkie being placed in charge of the Department of Health; an abusive alcoholic Deus Vult wannabe crusader being put in charge of the Department of Defense; and a noted Putin apologist being confirmed to run our intelligence services. Mitch McConnell voted against her confirmation, by the way.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2025/02/13/caroline-rfk-jr-caused-familys-addiction-david-died-in-palm-beach/78525188007/
https://www.reed.senate.gov/news/releases/reed-statement-on-abuse-allegations-against-pete-hegseth
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/12/tulsi-gabbard-confirmed
MAGA stands for a ketamine-addled, unelected billionaire ransacking our private financial details with no oversight. He has access to his competitor's financial details, and the bulk of his fortune comes from lucrative government contracts. He's also trying to get his hands on NASA, one of the jewels of American public innovation - again, one of his competitors.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/17/elon-musk-doge-irs-00204579
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/feb/16/elon-musk-doge-government-privatization
MAGA stands for hate, and fear, and the idea that we should have a king instead of co-equal branches of government. MAGA stands for a version of America that would appall the founders of this country, because they explicitly warned about this exact situation in the Federalist papers, multiple times.
MAGA is profoundly corrupt, unmistakeably anti-democracy, and, most importantly, MAGA is explicitly a Nazi movement. They may have substituted a red hat for an armband with a swastika, but every single thing MAGA stands for is what the Nazis did. Eugenics. Racism. Blind loyalty to the leader over what benefits the community as a whole. Removal or destruction of knowledge deemed "unsavory." Removal of groups deemed "unsavory." Sustained assaults on science, reason, and logic. Ceaseless propaganda that has no basis in reality. The promotion of fools, imbeciles, and charlatans to positions of power.
The threat to take everything you have, unless you give it to them first.
If this council wants to have MAGA represent our community, as someone who actually believes in the Constitution, I can only have one response to Nazis.
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Ok super genius. Since you’ve confessed childhood concussions on the ice might be the root cause of your aberrant thinking I’ll let our friends up north correct you in a manner that possibly may get through.

From Oxford whoever that is
Can·a·di·an. I'm not a super genius though just bright enough to handle youse guys

US DECLINING TO CO-SPONSOR UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION BACKING UKRAINE AND CONDEMNING RUSSIAN AGGRESSION AHEAD OF WAR ANNIVERSARY, DIPLOMATIC SOURCES SAY

As the European papers call him now

Putin’s Poodle

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From Oxford whoever that is
Can·a·di·an. I'm not a super genius though just bright enough to handle youse guys
I see this has struck a nerve.

I’ve travelled to Canada quite a bit, more eastern Canada really, and while I find Ontario to be nice Quebec is a lot more fun especially Quebec City if you’ve never been.

Several years ago I was driving with my kids in rural Quebec and stopped at a desperately needing to be updated McDonalds to satiate their hunger. The menu was entirely in French and my older son was a little panicked. Fortunately I speak a little French and was able to procure nourishment without any further issue.

We crossed the border into Maine and drove the 201 along the Kennebec River, an absolutely beautiful stretch of country.

From what I understand the older Mainers still speak some Quebecois to this day though I’m not sure the kids are really into it.

I see this has struck a nerve.


Stuck a nerve? No made me laugh....knowing you think you're the smartest guy in the room. Backpeddling with an amusing story instead of admitting you were incorrect.

Stuck a nerve? No made me laugh....knowing you think you're the smartest guy in the room. Backpeddling with an amusing story instead of admitting you were incorrect.
How was I incorrect? That spelling is still in use today.

Have you ever been to Quebec?

hit by a bullet fired from an assassin. Also completed his mission....he is your president if you are an american. Thats the difference there big fella.

Actually if you’re an American, he’s the President and Americans owe no allegiance to any person.
There are no kings or tyrants allowed in America.
That’s the difference.

Even naturalized citizens learn that.

The Oath of Allegiance
“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all
allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom
or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;
…that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of
America against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
…that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same;
…that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law;
…that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States
when required by the law;

On May 5, 1789, the Senate passed its first bill—the Oath Act. That first oath, for members and civil servants, was very simple: "I do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States."

Each and every United States employee, Private, Airman, Sailor, Representative, Government Service Level 1, Government Service Level 18, Senator, Vice President, Supreme Court Justice, etc takes an oath to protect and defend the United States Constitution.

I personally believe the vast majority take this oath seriously. I believe only one former or current President considered it a mere formality.
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Calling Nicolas Cage

Trump: "There's a map on the back of the Constitution. We're going to be looking at it very closely. We've been talking about it from the day I got in, and we're looking at that very, very strongly."
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hit by a bullet fired from an assassin. Also completed his mission....he is your president if you are an american. Thats the difference there big fella.


Hit by a bullet fired from an assassin lol. still lying ..

he is your president funny you never felt that way with Biden funny how that works with your type. your hypocrisy has no limits.

Hit by a bullet fired from an assassin lol. still lying ..

he is your president funny you never felt that way with Biden funny how that works with your type. your hypocrisy has no limits.

Still lying? About Trump being shot? He wasnt?
No need to answer..im done with you.

How was I incorrect? That spelling is still in use today.

Have you ever been to Quebec?

Go check with oxford or dont.
I drove cross country to see America the Beautiful

The secretary of agriculture canceled a meeting on biodiversity
The secretary of agriculture bragged about canceling a biodiversity conference because she thinks biodiversity is DEl-related. I wish this was a joke. It's just the level of stupidity and
"confidently incorrect" we're at right now.
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Once you realize that he works for Russia, not America, everything he does makes sense.
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Go check with oxford or dont.
I drove cross country to see America the Beautiful
I’m a more than a bit surprised you’d resort to consulting a dictionary created by the same BRITISH people we kicked out in 1783! :rtfm:

America is beautiful, so is Canada. Trump on the other hand is capitulating to Vladimir Putin which all of us should be abhorred by.

The secretary of agriculture canceled a meeting on biodiversity
The secretary of agriculture bragged about canceling a biodiversity conference because she thinks biodiversity is DEl-related. I wish this was a joke. It's just the level of stupidity and
"confidently incorrect" we're at right now.
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Wait until farmers can’t get proper climate data to maximize yields because it’s considered too woke.

Hegseth orders military to draw up plans for 40% total budget cuts over the next fives years, 8% per year. Exponentially worse than sequestration that crippled the military in 2011.


Don’t worry, General, we will form an alliance with Russia, China and North Korea. A tremendous alliance with my great friends, one like no one has ever seen. We will defeat all the woke countries, and people will say to Trump, in tears, “Sir, you are the greatest allier in the history of the world!”
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Joe Biden took over when the US economy was wrecked from the pandemic, businesses shut down, schools closed, global inflation, etc. Our economic recovery was the envy of the world. Donald Trump took over during a booming economy BOTH TIMES, and he's going to wreck it even faster this time around without any outside catastrophic event.
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Hegseth orders military to draw up plans for 40% total budget cuts over the next fives years, 8% per year. Exponentially worse than sequestration that crippled the military in 2011.


Don’t worry, General, we will form an alliance with Russia, China and North Korea. A tremendous alliance with my great friends, one like no one has ever seen. We will defeat all the woke countries, and people will say to Trump, in tears, “Sir, you are the greatest allier in the history of the world!”
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I’m willing to wager we’re going to hear about a new US Russia agreement for total nuclear disarmament. Specific terms of the deal have yet to be disclosed but the general framework can be summed up with “Ok, The United States goes first”

I’m willing to wager we’re going to hear about a new US Russia agreement for total nuclear disarmament. Specific terms of the deal have yet to be disclosed but the general framework can be summed up with “Ok, The United States goes first”

“And then have your oligarchs call my oligarchs, I’ll be golfing…

But I’m getting more convinced that there will be a hot war very shortly, Russia has not been this weak for 80 years.
Europe knows it’s now or be attacked in a few years. Unless you’re just betting on Putin’s successor being a nice guy.
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Still lying? About Trump being shot? He wasnt?
No need to answer..im done with you.

He was shot at. not shot. show me the medical report I saw a fake medical report claiming his ear had a 2 cm.nick which is 0.787402. of an inch

your a finish carpenter.. explain to us how serious of an injury it was



I am guess this might be you at your keyboard when you post your responses . the ultimate Fanboy

US President Donald Trump is "very frustrated" with the Ukrainian leader, his national security adviser Mike Waltz told a White House news briefing. but of course left out details

Z won't kiss his ring


Kyiv news conference with Zelensky and Trump's Ukraine envoy cancelled at last minute


Meanwhile, the Kremlin has hailed the US president's stance, with spokesman Dmitry Peskov saying Russia "absolutely" agreed with Trump after he urged Zelensky to "move fast" to end the conflict.

and some still think he isn't in bed with the Russians

Still lying? About Trump being shot? He wasnt?
No need to answer..im done with you.
Well, I’d certainly agree he was shot. Just a scratch but could have been deadly what with firing a military designed weapon at such a close range.

So fake blood? What a moron

So fake blood? What a moron

He more than likely had his period Since he’s such a whiny little bitch

You want to say he was grazed . Ok but please stop with your hero worship . Of Trump..


Reagan was seriously wounded by a revolver bullet that ricocheted off the side of the presidential limousine and hit him in the left underarm, breaking a rib, puncturing a lung, and causing serious internal bleeding.

Still can’t tell the difference. Can you. Seek help and get out of the cult

He's too old to menstate kid...didn't you take sex ed?

Trump expected to take control of USPS, fire postal board, officials say


Keep thinking these ideas are Trumps. When are we going to find out who’s actually running the country

Extraordinary story in the Wall Street Journal.

X is threatening advertisers that if they don’t spend more, Elon Musk will use his influence in government to block company mergers.

That’s extortion.

A lawyer at advertising conglomerate Interpublic Group fielded a phone call in December from a lawyer at X. The message was clear, according to several people with knowledge of the conversation: Get your clients to spend more on Elon Musk's social-media platform, or else.
X CEO Linda Yaccarino has made comments that seemed like similar warnings in conversations with Interpublic executives, according to people with knowledge of those talks.
Interpublic leaders interpreted the communications from X as reminders that the recently announced $13 billion deal to merge Interpublic with rival Omnicom Group OMC -0.53%Y could be torpedoed, or at least slowed down, by the Trump administration, given Musk's powerful role in the federal government, some of the people said. They also had a front-row seat to Musk's continued criticism of advertisers that ditched X since he bought it in 2022, when it was known as Twitter.
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Steve Bannon, after calling for Trump to be President for life, did a Nazi salute on stage at CPAC.

Nazism has officially taken over the GOP.

The few remaining conservatives have a choice: either leave the party and obstruct it—or choose to be complicit.
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Keep it coming Pete....without you this thread will shrivel up and die.
Kinda like todays democratic agenda.

Keep it coming Pete....without you this thread will shrivel up and die.
Kinda like todays democratic agenda.

Todays MAGA agenda

In an R+18 district: Speaking at a business luncheon yesterday in Westerville, Ohio, GOP Rep. Troy Balderson "described President Donald Trump's flurry of executive orders as 'getting out of control' .... [and] expressed some pushback to the idea of sole decision-making power lying with Trump and billionaire advisor Elon Musk," the Columbus Dispatch's Samantha Hendrickson reports. "Congress has to decide whether or not the Department of Education goes away,' Balderson asserted. 'Not the president, not Elon Musk."

In deep-red Georgia: Last night in Roswell, Georgia, an overflow crowd packed into a town hall forum for GOP Rep. Rich McCormick, barraging him with pointed questions and accusatory comments about DOGE's cuts. His staff "seemed caught off guard by the massive crowd of hundreds that gathered," reports the Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Greg Bluestein. (This is a district Trump carried by 22 points just three months ago.

I see FFOTUS’ magic worked for hockey as well as football…ETTD
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Steve Bannon, after calling for Trump to be President for life, did a Nazi salute on stage at CPAC.

Nazism has officially taken over the GOP.

The few remaining conservatives have a choice: either leave the party and obstruct it—or choose to be complicit.
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And as on cue. Marsh is here to avoid the topics ..and still suggest that some how all the countries issues are democrats fault.. as if Trump wasn’t in office 4 years ago.

But he’ll support trumps attempt at another 4 years. But let’s get past year 1 st

You idiots claiming it was just a scratch or menstrual fluid have #^&#^&#^&#^& for brains. The man was one freieking inch from death and you are minimizing it. He is in more danger than you ever were. The topic is TDS and SHS and on cue youre right behind me.....youll have to wait until GS taps out big guy

Might not be what you want but here’s what MAGA Marsh got for us

Watching Elon Musk and his band of young acolytes slash their way through the federal government, many observers have struggled to understand how such a small group could do so much damage in so little time.

The mistake is trying to situate Musk solely in the context of politics. He isn’t approaching this challenge like a budget-minded official. He’s approaching it like an engineer, exploiting vulnerabilities that are built into the nation’s technological systems, operating as what cybersecurity experts call an insider threat. We were warned about these vulnerabilities but no one listened, and the consequences — for the United States and the world — will be vast.

Insider threats have been around for a long time: the C.I.A. mole toiling quietly in the Soviet government office, the Boeing engineer who secretly ferried information about the space shuttle program to the Chinese government. Modern digital systems supercharge that threat by consolidating more and more information from many distinct realms.

That approach has delivered obvious benefits in terms of convenience, access, integration and speed. When the bipartisan Sept. 11 commission described how segmentation of information among agencies had stymied intelligence efforts, the solution was to create integrated systems for collecting and sharing huge troves of data.
Running integrated digital systems, however, requires endowing a few individuals with sweeping privileges. They’re the sysadmins, the systems administrators who manage the entire network, including its security. They have root privileges, the jargon for highest level of access. They get access to the God View, the name Uber gave its internal tool that allowed an outrageously large number of employees to see anyone’s Uber rides.
That’s why when Edward Snowden was at the N.S.A. he was able to take so much information, including extensive databases that had little to do with the particular operations he wanted to expose as a whistle-blower. He was a sysadmin, the guy standing watch against users who abuse their access, but who has broad leeway to exercise his own.
All this has merged with and amplified another kind of insider threat brewing for decades on the political side: the expansion of unchecked executive power.

“With money we will get men, said Caesar, and with men we will get money,” Thomas Jefferson once wrote, to warn against the ways that what he called elective despotism can become a self-feeding cycle. He had feared that an elected authoritarian would not just pulverize the institutions meant to limit his power, but take them over to wield as weapons, thus further entrenching himself.
Even Jefferson couldn’t have imagined a future in which the arsenal being deployed included centralized databases with comprehensive records on every citizen’s employment, finances, taxes and for some, even health status.

After a judge blocked a Trump executive order, Elon Musk shared a post with his more than 200 million followers on X that included the judge’s daughter’s name, photo and job, allegedly at the Department of Education. There’s no indication he got access to government databases about her, but how would we know if he had, or if he does so in the future?

Feel free to read the rest of the story

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/21/opinion/musk-doge-personal-data.html
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Might not be what you want but here’s what MAGA Marsh got for us

Watching Elon Musk and his band of young acolytes slash their way through the federal government, many observers have struggled to understand how such a small group could do so much damage in so little time.

The mistake is trying to situate Musk solely in the context of politics. He isn’t approaching this challenge like a budget-minded official. He’s approaching it like an engineer, exploiting vulnerabilities that are built into the nation’s technological systems, operating as what cybersecurity experts call an insider threat. We were warned about these vulnerabilities but no one listened, and the consequences — for the United States and the world — will be vast.

Insider threats have been around for a long time: the C.I.A. mole toiling quietly in the Soviet government office, the Boeing engineer who secretly ferried information about the space shuttle program to the Chinese government. Modern digital systems supercharge that threat by consolidating more and more information from many distinct realms.

That approach has delivered obvious benefits in terms of convenience, access, integration and speed. When the bipartisan Sept. 11 commission described how segmentation of information among agencies had stymied intelligence efforts, the solution was to create integrated systems for collecting and sharing huge troves of data.
Running integrated digital systems, however, requires endowing a few individuals with sweeping privileges. They’re the sysadmins, the systems administrators who manage the entire network, including its security. They have root privileges, the jargon for highest level of access. They get access to the God View, the name Uber gave its internal tool that allowed an outrageously large number of employees to see anyone’s Uber rides.
That’s why when Edward Snowden was at the N.S.A. he was able to take so much information, including extensive databases that had little to do with the particular operations he wanted to expose as a whistle-blower. He was a sysadmin, the guy standing watch against users who abuse their access, but who has broad leeway to exercise his own.
All this has merged with and amplified another kind of insider threat brewing for decades on the political side: the expansion of unchecked executive power.

“With money we will get men, said Caesar, and with men we will get money,” Thomas Jefferson once wrote, to warn against the ways that what he called elective despotism can become a self-feeding cycle. He had feared that an elected authoritarian would not just pulverize the institutions meant to limit his power, but take them over to wield as weapons, thus further entrenching himself.
Even Jefferson couldn’t have imagined a future in which the arsenal being deployed included centralized databases with comprehensive records on every citizen’s employment, finances, taxes and for some, even health status.

After a judge blocked a Trump executive order, Elon Musk shared a post with his more than 200 million followers on X that included the judge’s daughter’s name, photo and job, allegedly at the Department of Education. There’s no indication he got access to government databases about her, but how would we know if he had, or if he does so in the future?

Feel free to read the rest of the story

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/21/opinion/musk-doge-personal-data.html
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Let it all out Pete its like vomiting and diarrhea you have to get it done

Where did the party of Reagan go?

The United States is opposing calling Russia the aggressor in the war with Ukraine in a Group of 7 statement being drafted to mark the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion, four senior officials from countries involved said on Thursday.

The American objections to the statement come after President Trump earlier this week blamed Ukraine for starting the war, which in fact began with Russia’s attack on Ukraine.

You idiots claiming it was just a scratch or menstrual fluid have #^&#^&#^&#^& for brains. The man was one freieking inch from death and you are minimizing it. He is in more danger than you ever were. The topic is TDS and SHS and on cue youre right behind me.....youll have to wait until GS taps out big guy

He is in more danger than you ever were..

When your next Cult meeting?

Minimizing. That’s comical coming from you . A fan boy. Who has maximized a .75 of an inch nick on his ear that no one saw. And no more blood than cutting himself shaving

I bet you own one of those I stand with Trump ear tampons ..

Maybe you need to ask yourself why Trump would be targeted? Since Regan.
By. Someone registered to vote in Pennsylvania as a member of the Republican Party and remained registered as a Republican until his death.

Damn those pesky facts
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Let it all out Pete its like vomiting and diarrhea you have to get it done

Death for the king
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Where did the party of Reagan go?

The United States is opposing calling Russia the aggressor in the war with Ukraine in a Group of 7 statement being drafted to mark the third anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion, four senior officials from countries involved said on Thursday.

The American objections to the statement come after President Trump earlier this week blamed Ukraine for starting the war, which in fact began with Russia’s attack on Ukraine.

Have you ever heard FFOTUS call Putin anything other than smart or friend?
The fact that Ukraine gave up it’s nukes in the early 90s and who guaranteed its sovereignty seems to have been forgotten.
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U.S. consumer sentiment plunges—down 10% from January over tariff and inflation fears.

Most people I know think the economy is cooked thanks to Trump’s policies—designed to help the rich and screw working folks.

It seems almost unavoidable at this point that we are headed for a deep, deep recession. Just based on 200K+ federal firings & pullback of contracts, the March employment report (to be released April 4) seems certain to show bigger job losses than any month ever outside of a few in 2008-9 and 2020.

Add on to that enormous private market uncertainty - how could you hire in these conditions? - and this is going to be very, very bad.

To be clear: Even greater damage will be done by the loss of federal government productivity. The workers who are losing their jobs were worth more than they were being paid! We are all poorer when roads, planes, and food are unsafe, when parks are closed, etc.

This will show up in the March report, to be released on April 4. Why not in the February report, coming out March 7? Because that asks for employment in the pay period including Feb. 12, and the firings were nearly all too late for that.

But, I suspect the March unemployment report will actually be rosy.

The Felon’s regime's Five Year Plan will have achieved HUGE success in reducing unemployment to 1% and inflation to 0% by executive order.
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He is in more danger than you ever were..

When your next Cult meeting?

Minimizing. That’s comical coming from you . A fan boy. Who has maximized a .75 of an inch nick on his ear that no one saw. And no more blood than cutting himself shaving

I bet you own one of those I stand with Trump ear tampons ..

Maybe you need to ask yourself why Trump would be targeted? Since Regan.
By. Someone registered to vote in Pennsylvania as a member of the Republican Party and remained registered as a Republican until his death.

Damn those pesky facts
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You sound weird talking about tampons periods and menstrating.....really weird

Trump: "Eggs. I'm hearing so much about eggs. You'll figure it out. You gotta figure something out fast. And we inherited all the problems ... the big things, really, we can blame other people for."

Just imagine if he had inherited Covid
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You sound weird talking about tampons periods and menstrating.....really weird

The US president also said he doesn't think it's "important" that Zelensky is present at peace talks with Russia, adding he "doesn't have any cards"

Only weird for those who don’t think Trumps a pussy.

This represents Trump in the oval office when Z. told him he was repeating Russian propaganda talking points


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZI4IZd9oE

Trump: "Eggs. I'm hearing so much about eggs. You'll figure it out. You gotta figure something out fast. And we inherited all the problems ... the big things, really, we can blame other people for."

Just imagine if he had inherited Covid
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Canada and Mexico vaccinate their chicken. So I am guessing the reason why they’re not vaccinated in the US is cost…. And how’s that working out. Many egg producers are refusing to re stock egg layers until. The bird flu is under control or the government allows vaccines..

This is info Fox viewers will never see or their dishonest representatives will tell them

The US president also said he doesn't think it's "important" that Zelensky is present at peace talks with Russia, adding he "doesn't have any cards"

Only weird for those who don’t think Trumps not a pussy.

This represents Trump in the oval office when Z. told him he was repeating Russian propaganda talking points


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZI4IZd9oE

The Europeans who are not involved with American politics but who honored their Article 5 pledge and joined us in Afghanistan are saying that Trump is doing what he did negotiating with the Taliban without the Afghan government’s involvement.
They blame Trump for that ending and don’t want the same outcome for Ukraine.
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"Seven western Wisconsin Republican lawmakers did not appear at an event hosted by the Wisconsin Farmers Union in Chippewa Falls Friday as farmers from the area said they were concerned about the effect that President Donald Trump’s first month in office is having on their livelihoods."
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Sh*ts starting to hit the fan, the big test will come when courts want to enforce EA reversals and Trump refuses. Guess who enforces those rulings when push comes to shove, they are US Marshalls and guess who they are reporting to, yup the Trump DOJ loyalists. His recent comments prove he believes he is the federal law, not the courts.

In two days the market has said the economy and inflation are giving them a lot of concern. There is going to be a lot of buyers remorse if it continues to go sideways.

This kid didn’t need a clearance

Edward Coristine, a 19-year-old high school graduate, established at least five different companies in the last four years, with entities registered in Connecticut, Delaware, and the United Kingdom, most of which were not listed on his now-deleted LinkedIn profile. Coristine also briefly worked in 2022 at Path Network, a network monitoring firm known for hiring reformed blackhat hackers. Someone using a Telegram handle tied to Coristine also solicited a cyberattack-for-hire service later that year.

In addition to that he turns out to be the grandson of former KGB spy Valery Martynov, who played a role in a sprawling 1980s espionage saga.
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"During the meeting, Ukraine was told it faced imminent shutoff of the Starlink service (owned by Musk) if it did not reach a deal on critical minerals, said the source, who requested anonymity to discuss closed negotiations."

Astonishing betrayal of an ally.
The rest of the world sees this and will remember long after the FFOTUS is gone.
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Feel safer now with a news host working for a convicted felon game show host firing top military leaders at the Pentagon? Unless your an idiot you have realized climate change is real, yet Trump is stopping scientist from working on it. Wonder how RFK, our vaccine conspiracy general will handle the outbreaks getting going?

The bitching whining and crying....is in perpetual motion now. I predict that this will be the longest running thread in SB history. All I need to do now is nudge the less mentally stable SHS people...like once a week.
....you know the ones that cant help themselves....and are typing away feverishly.... helpless in your strategy of resistance and denial. This president is going to wear you down like a pair of my workboots.....takes about a year.

He’s cutting the debt

KRISTI NOEM SAYS $200 MILLION DHS AD CAMPAIGN THANKING TRUMP WAS HIS IDEA
Trump’s Homeland Security Secretary said he instructed her to make ads that “thank me for closing the border”

Because he’s not a dictator
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This kid didn’t need a clearance

Edward Coristine, a 19-year-old high school graduate, established at least five different companies in the last four years, with entities registered in Connecticut, Delaware, and the United Kingdom, most of which were not listed on his now-deleted LinkedIn profile. Coristine also briefly worked in 2022 at Path Network, a network monitoring firm known for hiring reformed blackhat hackers. Someone using a Telegram handle tied to Coristine also solicited a cyberattack-for-hire service later that year.

In addition to that he turns out to be the grandson of former KGB spy Valery Martynov, who played a role in a sprawling 1980s espionage saga.
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The odds of this child having personal copies of terabytes of confidential information on US citizens is alarmingly high and makes them an ideal target for extortion or worse they could hold the data hostage for ransom.

Best case is Musk will use it for personal and political gain.

I do hope when this detonates a few of us are left to repopulate the species.

The bitching whining and crying....is in perpetual motion now. I predict that this will be the longest running thread in SB history. All I need to do now is nudge the less mentally stable SHS people...like once a week.
....you know the ones that cant help themselves....and are typing away feverishly.... helpless in your strategy of resistance and denial. This president is going to wear you down like a pair of my workboots.....takes about a year.

We’re impressed so far


Donald Trump's rapid-fire policy moves - and I'll note that the word "policy" is applied charitably in this case - are the economic equivalent of liberally tossing around lighter fluid and playing with a packet of matches.
His unnecessary, belligerent, and pointlessly aggressive tariffs, and his spending cuts (in the name of tax breaks for America's wealthy) have given his second term the fiscal aerodynamics of a lead balloon.
There's a difference between uncertainty and volatility, but Trump has lumbered into power with both at his heels, and America's economy is already feeling the one-two-punch.
The market reaction has been far from partisan. The S%P 500 is down 1.71%, the Nasdaq 2.20%. And the price of eggs, a marker that became the campaign-defining meme of Trump's financial promises, has soared; as of February 21, 2025, the national average wholesale price for a dozen Grade A eggs reached $8.07, the highest on record.
Trump's model of Governance through Executive Order has been defined by a tsunami of changes, from the petulant to the ideological. His tariffs - a blunt instrument favored by the economically illiterate - have targeted cars, semiconductors, and pharmaceuticals. Even Jim Farley, the Trump-supporting CEO of Ford, predicted the administration's approach would lead to "a lot of costs, a lot of chaos."
Meanwhile, Trump's co-president, Elon "Ketamine" Musk, has been let loose at the conjured-from-thin-air Department of Government Efficiency, where his cuts, irresponsible and incompetent at best, wilfully destructive at worse, have kicked off the wholesale collapse of employment across government departments and related industries; a ruin that will inevitably show up in stalled employment numbers.
The supply-chain ripple effect of Musk and Trump's effective shuttering of USAID is preemptively hitting agriculture and manufacturing. And markets are pricing in a gloomy assessment of policy disruption.
PMI has dropped to a 17-month low. Manufacturing is "front-running" tariffs as the reality of Trump's scorched earth economics sets in. The services area, both public and private, is already contracting. As it turns out, the "Trump Business Honeymoon" couldn't make it 30 days into his ignominious, post-conviction Presidency.
Consumer sentiment has followed Industry, falling to a 15-month low, with inflation expectations at their highest since 1995. And as Walmart has warned, the feedback loop between sentiment and spending couldn't be clearer. Americans are feeling the pinch, and their wallets are snapping shut.
None of this should be surprising to anyone with a functioning brain cell - so it's entirely understandable that it's left MAGA voters and Trump supporters gasping. Shooting from the hip is a poor approach to policy, and when uncertainty becomes an official strategy, the markets will fluctuate between erratic attempts at adaptation and paralysis. As euphoric as America's Oligarchs might have been about unchecked capitalism, the wholesale of regulation, and a Government that would either look the other way or lend a helping hand to their banditry, the fact is that markets thrive on stability. You cannot build on an unsteady foundation; right now, America's economic foundation is being undermined.
Disruption can be a positive force. But over the last decade, it has become a hand-wave that forgives and excuses irresponsible governance, poor decision-making, and financial incompetence. The reason you can't run the government like a startup is simple: 90% or more of startups fail. That's a risk threshold that should be unacceptable to anyone serious about the responsibility of America's stewardship.
Productive disruption in the context of an economy or a nation is possible. But there is no evidence of anything productive in Donald Trump's current approach to economics. Just more deliberate and collateral damage, more flagrant disregard for common sense, and more policies designed to shake things up while shaking the monetary baby to death.
The numbers surrounding Biden's soft landing, the numbers inherited by Trump and his gangsters, showed a nation bouncing back.
But Trump's performance in the first month of his second term is a strong signal that the soft landing is over, and America's fiscal outlook is grim to say the least.
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Just in

KYIV — The Trump administration has asked Ukraine to withdraw an annual resolution condemning Russia’s war, and wants to replace it with a toned-down U.S. statement that was perceived as being close to pro-Russian in Kyiv, according to an official and three European diplomats familiar with the plan,

Trump will do anything for his own Image

Just in

KYIV — The Trump administration has asked Ukraine to withdraw an annual resolution condemning Russia’s war, and wants to replace it with a toned-down U.S. statement that was perceived as being close to pro-Russian in Kyiv, according to an official and three European diplomats familiar with the plan,

Trump will do anything for his own Image
If I had to wager, Trump is trying to cut a deal with Putin to hand over Ukraine if we get some minerals out of it. Russia will just install another corrupt president like Ukraine ousted before Zelinsky was democratically elected.

Dodge claims it’s saved 55 billion dollars


Senate approves $350 billion plan for Trump border and defense spending



Trump and Musk supporters are dumber than a box of hair

If I had to wager, Trump is trying to cut a deal with Putin to hand over Ukraine if we get some minerals out of it. Russia will just install another corrupt president like Ukraine ousted before Zelinsky was democratically elected.

Absolutely Trump‘s just looking for something to make himself look good his base doesn’t care about the details, clearly neither do the Republicans

Id go 1 step further and say the minerals are lithium. Who in trumps inner circle needs lots of lithium?
Cant wait for the new release of the Tesla Mein Kamphermobile
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Id go 1 step further and say the minerals are lithium. Who in trumps inner circle needs lots of lithium?
Cant wait for the new release of the Tesla Mein Kamphermobile
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Good catch, I just read an article on that.

Id go 1 step further and say the minerals are lithium. Who in trumps inner circle needs lots of lithium?
Cant wait for the new release of the Tesla Mein Kamphermobile
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That’s the new model SS
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The University of Pittsburgh pauses its Ph.D. admissions process amid research funding uncertainty.

But fear not, FFOTUS has a plan.

He says that RFK Jr and Dr Oz are working together to solve autism.
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Owning a Swastitruck doesn't sound like a very good plan for a long life, considering they’re more dangerous than the Pinto.
And just like Musk they’re coming unglued.
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Good catch, I just read an article on that.
I rest my case.

https://kyivindependent.com/us-threatens-to-shut-off-starlink-if-ukraine-wont-sign-minerals-deal-sources-tell-reuters/
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Quid pro quo with Ukraine at the request of Trump, I’m having a DejaVu moment, seems familiar.

Well this is strange. That Kash Patel is the first Trumpy person to stand up to Musk in public is interesting Kremlinologically speaking.
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So the tcja extension will give the middle a 1.3 tax break, but the top 1% get 3.2, so a $70,000 break vs $1000, sounds fair right. Ah but remember how well that trickle down economics has worked haha. Projections of our national debt continue to go up NOT down under this new administration and the outlook for the economy isn’t great. Wondering when the stark reality of what is happening wakes up the maga brainwashed, if that is even possible.

Something is shifting. They are still breaking things and stealing things. And they will keep trying to break and to steal. But the propaganda magic around the oligarchical coup is fading.
Nervous Musk, Trump, Vance have all been outclassed in public arguments these last few days. Government failure, stock market crash, and dictatorial alliances are not popular. People are starting to realize that there is no truth here beyond the desire for personal wealth and power.
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A few facts about Ukraine

Zelensky does not imminently risk losing all of Ukraine.
• Most Ukrainian cities have not been destroyed.
• Ukrainian law prohibits holding elections in wartime (unlike the US
Constitution, which requires it).
• Ukraine has not suffered millions of losses.
• Europe provides about as much direct aid to Ukraine as the United States.
• European loans to Ukraine are backed by income from frozen Russian assets, not Ukraine.
• Ukraine did not misuse or lose half of the aid the United States has provided.
• Ukraine repeatedly invited Putin to negotiate in early 2022.
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A few facts about Ukraine

Zelensky does not imminently risk losing all of Ukraine.
• Most Ukrainian cities have not been destroyed.
• Ukrainian law prohibits holding elections in wartime (unlike the US
Constitution, which requires it).
• Ukraine has not suffered millions of losses.
• Europe provides about as much direct aid to Ukraine as the United States.
• European loans to Ukraine are backed by income from frozen Russian assets, not Ukraine.
• Ukraine did not misuse or lose half of the aid the United States has provided.
• Ukraine repeatedly invited Putin to negotiate in early 2022.
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Salon is a more progressive site but this piece really speaks volumes.

But here’s the thing: The chaos Trump is unleashing won’t do America a damn bit of good. What’s the point of winning if it means losing the people who once admired you, who chose to stand with you around the world? Alienating voluntary friends, burning bridges that took decades to build — how does that make America great?

If you think those lost friends can be easily replaced with new ones, forget it. They can’t.

Trump’s new friends are not America’s friends. They may be his friends, at least for the moment: political opportunists, power-hungry strongmen and regimes that don’t care about the ideals America once stood for. They don’t admire its history, its culture, its principles. They barely know anything about it.

They’re celebrating one thing: the fact that the America that once stood in their way is crumbling. They don’t respect a strong America. They relish the idea of a weak America, , an America too distracted, too divided, too consumed by its own chaos to stop them. And don’t fool yourself into thinking they’re satisfied with just a piece of the pie.

They want the whole damn bakery.

https://www.salon.com/2025/02/23/ukraine-peace-plan-is-a-massive-betrayal-of-americas-friends--like-me/

There’s a discussion going on about what’s called The Mar a Lago Accords.
It’s a complicated convoluted set of financial assumptions, changes and things that are claimed to be in his power and would of course make America great again.
https://www.macrovoices.com/guest-content/list-guest-transcripts/5711-transcript-of-the-podcast-interview-between-erik-townsend-and-jim-bianco-4/file

This assumes that the USA which generates about 26% of the world’s GDP can bully the rest of the G7 into submission on this and that the rest of the world will fall in line.
Unfortunately for Trump and us BRIC+ and the rest of the G7(excluding USA) control more than twice as much of the world’s GDP as the USA.
We’ve alienated much of the world both through past behavior and current.
Much of our current strength is derived from having the strongest military in the world and the dominant currency.
A multilateral agreement among most nations could quickly put the United States in a very weak position.
If Xi Jinping convinced Putin to withdraw from Ukraine and they negotiated a multilateral trade and military agreement with BRICS and what remains of the G7 excluding the USA there’s great advantages for the rest of the world and little Trump could do.
Threaten them with war and/or regime change after he’s decimated the USA military and CIA?
Impose tariffs and decimate what’s left of USA trade?
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Trump announces conservative podcaster Dan Bongino as FBI deputy director

U.S. sides with Russia against Ukraine war resolution
Washington breaks with Europe, refusing to condemn Moscow on third anniversary of invasion

Dan Bongino, right-wing firebrand tapped to be FBI deputy director?

wow and we are in 2 months into this madness

Bongino is what you’d have if steroids and a shaved boner took human form.

New FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino: “The only thing that matters is power. Power. That is all that matters. A system of checks and balances? Haha! That’s a good one.”
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So, here’s what happened in Federal Court today when the judge asked the government a trick question

JUDGE COLLEEN KOLLAR-KOTELLY: Is there an administrator of DOGE at the present time?

GOVERNMENT COUNSEL: I don’t know the answer to that.
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REPORTER: Can you explain the rationale in having the US vote against the UN resolution that Ukraine proposed?

TRUMP: It's sort of self-evident I think

When he's right, he's right. Donald Trump is pro-Russia.
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Bongino is what you’d have if steroids and a shaved boner took human form.

New FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino: “The only thing that matters is power. Power. That is all that matters. A system of checks and balances? Haha! That’s a good one.”
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It’s nearly as much of a sick joke pick as Gaetz was for AG if anyone can even remember him.

Even worse it sounds like FBI Director Patel (another sick joke) told the FBI they would make a traditional pick for Deputy from rank and file agents. Forget about the FBI investigating white collar crime or national security, we now have a secret police.

We might just see another cherished institution go right down the drain.

REPORTER: Can you explain the rationale in having the US vote against the UN resolution that Ukraine proposed?

TRUMP: It's sort of self-evident I think

When he's right, he's right. Donald Trump is pro-Russia.
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Seriously, Trump is now negotiating on Putin’s behalf. The United States, last bulwark of communism is siding with Russia, North Korea and Belarus.

Sounds like the EU is contemplating making their own deal for Ukrainian minerals and giving nearly 300B in frozen Russian assets to those fighting and dying for democracy. I’m not holding my breath.

Seeing Macron embarrass Trump in the Oval Office yesterday was priceless though, Marsh, are we winning yet?

What real men say

"I do not want my picture in your offices.
The President is not
an idol, an icon or a portrait.
Hang your kids' photos instead, and look at them each time you are making a decision."
Volodymyr Zelenskyy
2019 inaugural speech
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Reporter: Who is the administrator of DOGE?

White House secretary: “I’m not going to reveal the name of that person from this podium…”
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