this is like people dying with covid or from covid...

That is one of the stupidest statements, I guess the military better tighten up their vetting also Jim, maybe everyone could all benefit from your ability to identify those individuals who could possibly be severely affected by ptsd and might take their own lives in the future. You probably already have the winning powerball numbers too, man I wish I could see the future, what a gift.

Answering for myself; I do not agree with any of those being characterized as peaceful. They were there for a confrontation. Portland is perfect example. Violence is violence. Less violence does not earn an event the peaceful description. Half wrong? Kinda pregnant? Just doesn't fly.

“What about all the BLM riots?”

What about them?

There have been thousands of protestors prosecuted for breaking the law.
Stop pretending you don’t understand the difference between burning down Target and attacking our nation’s capitol during the election certification.
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Jim loves to take the far left media talking points and suggest those are our views.

Ps: I’m sure many weren’t happy to listen to the AG’s speech today, it’s far from over and those mostly peaceful individuals involved behind the scenes might be nervous.

is CNN far left?

let me ask you point blank. which was more violent, the blm riots of 2020 or january 6? if you say january 6, on what basis ( deaths, hospitalizations, property damage $) would you say january 6?

have fun.

it’s not just the fringe left that does what you’re claiming i cling to. 99% of the left does it.

AOC mocks FL for dangerously managing covid, then is seen partying maskless at a FL bar. When conservatives call out the hypocrisy ( because no one on the left would dare do it). she says people dislike her because she’s got and we can’t have her.

zero criticism from the left.
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Jim is AOC or CNN debating January 6th with you on this board, don’t lump all democrats or independents who voted Biden into your narrative. January 6th is far and away worse than any BLM protest gone bad, but I know you will never admit it was.

i’d admit january 6 was worse, if there was any possible rational reason to conclude that. the summer riots caused way more deaths, way more property damage. so i guess you don’t use the amount of violence or property damage to compare riots. those seem like pretty obvious metrics to use. not to you though.

“is AOC debating you”

oh. so you’re saying i should
only bring up people who are here debating. the lefties here never bring up trump? is he here debating? or is it only wrongheaded when i point to politicians who aren’t posting here?

you dodged the issue of AOC, because like every other liberal here, you’re incapable of just admitting she was a little
hypocritical to party in FL and very stupid to sexualize all criticism of her. you just can’t do it.

the AG heading up the january 6 investigation worked with teachers unions to flag concerned parents as domestic terrorists if they did things like make the nazi salute. so why wouldn’t we all have great confidence.

my deepest hope is that trump not run again, so i hope they get the goods on him.
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It's a stupid comparison.

That's what you say about every single comparison or discussion that makes the left look bad.

Question for you, what do you think of AOC? She criticizes Florida for being too lenient regarding covid, then shes seen drinking there without a mask, then when she's criticized for hypocrisy, she says her critics are deranged with frustration at not being able to be intimate with her.

What's your opinion of that behavior?

The comments by her critic, Owens, got weird about boyfriend's feet and choice of footwear, after having been on point about her actions in Fla. contradicting her stands back home/at work.
As for her reply? It was sophomoric. But it is a stretch to infer she said that he (Owens) or Republicans or you and me want to pound the stuffing out of her in bed.... It is the stretching of the truth, that is the behavior I have a low opinion of...

It’s just politics sure that’s all it is


Rep. Greene to Newsmax: Dems Trying to 'Brainwash the Public' About Jan. 6
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Love the defense of Babbit and how the Jan6th rioters was as Pence said just a day in January

So let’s ignore any thing Trump ever said before during or after Jan6th , let’s ignore all his inner circle who are suing the Jan6th commission so their involvement isn’t exposed , let’s ignore that Trump is claiming executive privilege when he has none and files bogus lawsuits, then let’s try to compare attacks on a federal building in Seattle to the events of. Jan6th. An attempt to disrupt the certification of the election and trumps big lie which his cult still thinks happened. There is no middle road on this topic you can’t pick the things you like about Trump and ignore everything else. It’s this basic ! you support Trump you supports seditious Trump the and his supporters in their entirety .. No verbal gymnastics can change that.
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It’s pretty simple, Jim is being brainwashed to accept authoritarian rule.

No it’s not
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Well….dementia joe assured the nation the other day that he’s optimistic about 2020. So I guess there’s nothing to worry about. Can’t wait to hear what he tries to say tomorrow
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Democraps should be very grateful that MAGA Force tried to capture the flag because it’s the only distraction they can currently muster to deflect from the disaster that is Biden and his administration
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brainwashed, yet i can immediately disagree with conservatives on big issues. you agree with liberals in every single issue, and never side against liberals ever.

that’s not brainwashed?

yes like most conservatives, i’m very pro authoritarian.
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30 people killed in those summer
riots, two thousand cops injured.

but january 6th was worse than that, probably worse than 9/11 and a million ones worse than Gettysburg.

Democrats know well that americans don’t like
their ideas. so rather than spending any time discussing their policies, they spend 100% of their time telling america why we need to fear republicans ( who have better ideas and run states which people
are moving to).
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You just couldn't help yourself, could you? It is comments like what I have put in bold that stop someone like me from taking you seriously. And you were so close....

Hmm... just connecting the dots.

au·thor·i·tar·i·an

adjective
favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom.

Similar:
autocratic dictatorial totalitarian despotic tyrannical

Jim is just confused. He says it was a bad thing but plays into every right wing trope on how it wasn’t that big of a deal just to try and impress Scott.

This is why social media sucks.

i ask on what basis one would conclude january 6 was worse than the BlM riots. GS hides, you lob insults. It’s what simpletons do when they’ve lost, but they’re too small to admit it.

Scott and i have disagreed on some big issues here. have you ever once, even one time, disagreed with pete or wayne or paul? one time?

nope.

every single person here, knows exactly what you’re going to say before you say it, on every single solitary issue. that’s not a great thing. what’s the difference between you and sean hannity? nothing. you’re his exact mirror image, exactly as thoughtless, predictable, parrot-like, and boring.

no authoritarian, would let the media treat him, the way they treated trump. he didn’t like it, and handled it like a baby, but he didn’t shut them down like any authoritarian would.

meanwhile biden’s authoritarian mandates are getting struck
down everywhere. as his refusal
to let military claim religious exemptions. i didn’t know the bill
of rights specifies that it doesn’t apply to the military.
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democrat mandates and democrat authoritarians are good because they are good for you and come from experts with 99.9% consensus or something....


trump isn't president and we know who the authoritarians are:hihi:

it's the democrats that have decided three hours of trespassing were some of the darkest in American history...I guess we shouldn't take them seriously....

back to your itchy trigger finger.....when you started blasting away before they reached the top of the stairs.....would you just pick a few off and see if that caused a response and turned the forces away at that point or would you just mow them down and let God sort them out?
just trying to understand the strategy....

just looking around the room here....who would be most likely to embrace the authoritarian role?...let's go top 3...who would enjoy most, the ability to control and direct the lives of others in an authoritarian way through government because they think they are the most informed and consider themselves the smartest and best equipped morally and ethically to do so....I'll give you a little time :smokin:

ps. this doesn't sound authoritarian....."Vice President Kamala Harris said during her CBS interview Sunday that 'democracy' is the most significant national security threat facing the United States. "

ptsd from combat is something anyone can understand.

i’m not sure i buy that anyone has ever been driven to suicide because of dealing with trespassing and low grade vandalism.
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Jan 6th, a stupid bumbling of idiots, inspired by an idiot, reflecting the previous year of idiots and idiotic violence, that somehow became the greatest threat to Democracy since The Civil War.

We're screwed.

so, does forcing people
to inject medicine they don’t wish to take, qualify as “forcing obedience to authority at expense to personal
freedom?”

how about telling military they can’t qualify for religious exemptions, which was struck down as unconstitutional by a federal judge?

trump trying toni return an election he didn’t win, obviously qualifies as dictatorial. but i don’t know that trump’s policies stripped
us of a lot of freedoms. he eliminated a lot of federal regulations. and no dictator wirthnhis salt, would
allow cnn and msnbc to attack him 24/7.
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oh....was that all that happened?

Again…..

https://c.tenor.com/SUNioctcfEUAAAAC/this.gif
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if you get vaccinated and want/demand mandated vaccines for everyone else..or else.. you are not an authoritarian...

if you get vaccinated but don't support mandates for others... you are an authoritarian and anti-vaxxer

if you don't want to be vaccinated yourself and don't support mandates for others...you are an authoritarian and anti-vaxxer

if you think schools should stick to reading, writing and arithmetic and stop trying to play social engineers/activist trainers with other peoples kids.....you are an authoritarian and probably a domestic terrorist

if you think schools need to perform all of the parenting duties that the social engineers/activists believe need to be performed because parents are too stupid and incompetent to provide these thing for their own children...you are not an authoritarian

follow the logic :rotf3:

here’s the logic.

liberal=good, conservative=bad. no exceptions, not once, not ever. because life is exactly that simple.
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Disapproval of Biden Hits New High- 1 day ago

good time for him to remind us how bad trump is/was.....

imagine how the media and democrats would be cackling if trump said this and we were where we are currently

John are you suggesting what happened and still happening isn’t a threat to democracy? Or do you just disagree with the civil war as the example?

At least 163 Republicans who have embraced Trump’s false claims are running for statewide positions that would give them authority over the administration of elections

Trump has spent much of his post-presidency marinating in false voting claims and electoral conspiracy theories. He has pushed Ronna McDaniel, chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, and other Republican officials to claim on television that the election was stolen

The RNC is launching a range of new initiatives related to elections, including plans for filing lawsuits in states, hiring more elections-related officials and recruiting more volunteers,

58 percent of Republicans think Biden’s election was not legitimate, and 62 percent think there is solid evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election.

Some falsely claimed leftist “antifa” protesters were behind the violence. Others falsely argued there was very little violence on Jan. 6 or, as Rep. Andrew S. Clyde (R-Ga.) claimed, the riot was simply “a normal tourist visit.” And some Republicans rebranded those arrested in the aftermath of the insurrection as “political prisoners.”

Trump and his supporters have also sought to make a martyr of Ashli Babbitt,

On and on and on
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I know right ! Making a statement trying to get a handle on the virus compared to Trumps it’s going to just disappear or let’s put light in the body.. and you dare talk about liberal logic lol



You
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Well isn't that the R party today? A bunch of idiots where over 50% believe the election was stolen and a vaccine will make you sterile. Where states want to be able to overrule the will of the people and put into power whomever they want.

Seems to me we're screwed.

oh my god, the RNC is recruiting volunteers!!!! the world is coming to an end!

i wouldn’t say Babbitt is a martyr. but i’d say she was a tiny unarmed woman who was shot to death by a cop with no warning, when she posed to possible imminent lethal threat to anyone.

a better question is, why doesn’t anyone on the left care about that?

the left spent a great deal
of energy in 2020 speaking out against improper use of
lethal force by police, but no one one the left wants to talk at all about what happened to Babbitt.

reason? politics. the left only cares about police killing when it helps them politically.

but back to the RNC refuting volunteers, i mean it’s time to sell
my stocks and build that underground bomb shelter in my yard.

again you complain when republicans make false claims of election fraud, but could care less when democrats do it.
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if republicans are so idiotic, why are so many people leaving blue states and moving to red states?

the dnc uses superdelegates in their primaries. literally, the only reason they do this, is to be able to overrule the will of the people ( their people) so that the kingmakers can put whoever they want into power.

i’m not disagreeing with your observations of awful
behavior on the right. but you constantly willfully ignore it on the left. very convenient for you

when you ignore everything smart then right does, and you ignore everything stupid the left does, it makes a comparison pretty stark. but i’m not sure it’s an accurate comparison.
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he went a bit further than that....