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The Dad Fisherman 08-12-2022 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230988)
Now your playing dumb.

Classic, you think the IRS is made up of only of agents.
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$46B of the $80B that is in the bill is specifically earmarked for the hiring of agents. The median income for IRS agents is $55,937 a year, which come out to roughly 83,000 agents hired. So the 87,000 agents # being thrown around is pretty close

https://amp.comparably.com/salaries/...-service-agent


https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/irs...reduction-act/

“Under the plan, about $46 billion of that $80 billion would be spent on hiring more enforcement agents”

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wdmso 08-12-2022 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1230973)
I saw the ad for new agents...."willing to use deadly force" was a prerequisite in Dark Brandon's Enforcement Brigade

Your deep in the cult even if you won’t admit it.

Last time I checked The IRS Criminal Investigation special agent job

Is not a generic IRS agent. But again more conservatives 1/2 truths

But of course you have no issues with cops use if deadly force. Even against the unarmed ..

But but the IRS
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wdmso 08-12-2022 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1230993)
$46B of the $80B that is in the bill is specifically earmarked for the hiring of agents. The median income for IRS agents is $55,937 a year, which come out to roughly 89,000 agents hired. So the 87,000 agents # being thrown around is pretty accurate

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/irs...reduction-act/

“Under the plan, about $46 billion of that $80 billion would be spent on hiring more enforcement agents”

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So you show up again peddling 1/2 truths like your buddy shocking

In your own provided link

The department estimated in a 2021 report that the funding may cover about 87,000 employees, which has been widely reported. However, these hires may include a range of positions, such as auditors, customer service and IT workers, the Treasury clarified in a statement to CNBC on Wednesday.


Let me guess you missed that part
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scottw 08-12-2022 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230994)

Your deep in the cult even if you won’t admit it.

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whatever tickles your little brain....

scottw 08-12-2022 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230995)

So you show up again peddling 1/2 truths like your buddy shocking


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you and pete should share a therapist...

Jim in CT 08-12-2022 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230994)
Your deep in the cult even if you won’t admit it.


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how would you go about demonstrating that you’re not in a cult? for the 1,000th time, can you list some big policy issues in which you agree with conservatives? or do you ( despite NOT being in a cult) think liberals are correct on every single, solitary issue?

you said republicans want a brutal fascist big federal government to impose sharia law. 5 minutes later you said they want no rules so that it’s every man for himself

but you’re not in a cult.
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scottw 08-12-2022 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1230998)

how would you go about demonstrating that you’re not in a cult?

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it's just how he argues...he has to first tell you that you are a deranged misinformed pos then he recites stuff he read on leftwingloon.com:shocked:

scottw 08-12-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1230988)

Now your playing dumb.


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at least I'm only playing :hihi:

The Dad Fisherman 08-12-2022 02:34 PM

Why do I f***ing try :wall:
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The Dad Fisherman 08-12-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231001)
at least I'm only playing :hihi:

I swear he’s got an extra chromosome
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falkners 08-12-2022 03:17 PM

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wdmso 08-12-2022 04:10 PM

such children

Whom think the FBI plant’s evidence is the enemy of the avg America [ code for conservatives) and the IRS are Hiring 89 thousand hit men over 10 years to take out and Harrass who’s ever left! Because the internet told them so !

And of course The 3 amigos can’t or don’t understand using the term cult is a metaphor. Like SNOWFLAKE

Enjoy your T shirts
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Jim in CT 08-12-2022 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1231007)
such children

Whom think the FBI plant’s evidence is the enemy of the avg America [ code for conservatives)
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your high school english teacher just checked himself into rehab.

i mean, i make a LOT of typos, way too many, but that’s some fine lefty gibberish right there.

i don’t think the FBI is the enemy, but i don’t deny that there’s evidence that the left has occasionally used the DOJ as a weapon against political
opponents. Kind of hard to deny that.


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wdmso 08-12-2022 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231009)
your high school english teacher just checked himself into rehab.

i mean, i make a LOT of typos, way too many, but that’s some fine lefty gibberish right there.

i don’t think the FBI is the enemy, but i don’t deny that there’s evidence that the left has occasionally used the DOJ as a weapon against political
opponents. Kind of hard to deny that.


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No Jim it’s not hard to deny your delusional views
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wdmso 08-12-2022 05:32 PM

The Democrats are not increasing the IRS because they think they're going to be audited ... They're increasing the size of the IRS so they can use it as a political weapon against conservatives," Clyde said.

"[The beefed-up IRS] will become more weaponized ... more militaristic," said Clyde, alluding to an alleged IRS job posting in which some applicants might be expected to carry firearms, potentially for citizen raids.


Maybe a friend of Scott and Dad ?
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RIROCKHOUND 08-12-2022 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1230993)
$46B of the $80B that is in the bill is specifically earmarked for the hiring of agents. The median income for IRS agents is $55,937 a year, which come out to roughly 83,000 agents hired. So the 87,000 agents # being thrown around is pretty close

https://amp.comparably.com/salaries/...-service-agent


https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/irs...reduction-act/

“Under the plan, about $46 billion of that $80 billion would be spent on hiring more enforcement agents”

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And well over half of them are planned hires to replace projected retirements.

The Dad Fisherman 08-12-2022 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1231017)
And well over half of them are planned hires to replace projected retirements.

Yep, that and those positions already vacant from past attrition. But the point of my post was breaking down the math for the agents as a whole. That and to show that a significant chunk of the money was for the hiring of agents.
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scottw 08-12-2022 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1231020)

That and to show that a significant chunk of the money was for the hiring of agents.

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look for updated definitions of "raid" and "agents"

scottw 08-12-2022 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1231017)
And well over half of them are planned hires to replace projected retirements.

this all you need to know.....


CBS News

The Inflation Reduction Act would invest $370 billion in fighting climate change and $64 billion to lower costs for people with Affordable Care Act health plans. To pay for that, Democrats want the IRS to step up audits and enforcement efforts to collect billions that currently get lost in the so-called tax gap.

Got Stripers 08-12-2022 06:32 PM

I’m confused are you against the government hiring to ensure taxes due are collected on time.

wdmso 08-12-2022 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1231026)
I’m confused are you against the government hiring to ensure taxes due are collected on time.

Don’t forget AOC owes 1600 bucks in back taxes they support going after her
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Jim in CT 08-12-2022 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1231031)
Don’t forget AOC owes 1600 bucks in back taxes they support going after her
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no comment on the fact the democrats took out the elimination of a tax loophole for the wealthy, in that bill. so let’s not hear any nonsense about wanting the wealthy to pay their fair share.
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The Dad Fisherman 08-12-2022 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231032)
no comment on the fact the democrats took out the elimination of a tax loophole for the wealthy, in that bill. so let’s not hear any nonsense about wanting the wealthy to pay their fair share.
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What loophole, honestly curious
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Jim in CT 08-12-2022 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1231034)
What loophole, honestly curious
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something called the “carried interest loophole” which benefits private equity investors ( not a lot of poor people in that group). recent versions of the inflation reduction. bill included the elimination of that loophole to help pay for it. Sinema, who takes campaign donations from very wealthy private equity folks, had that elimination removed, thus preserving the loophole. The democrats passed the version of the bill which preserved that loophole

Have a good weekend TDF.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna42394
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wdmso 08-12-2022 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231032)
no comment on the fact the democrats took out the elimination of a tax loophole for the wealthy, in that bill. so let’s not hear any nonsense about wanting the wealthy to pay their fair share.
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Clearly you have no concept of negotiation and no one every gets everything they want


Wow There are 3,841 Hedge Funds businesses in the US as of 2022




But again feel free to ignore everything else in the bill



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Got Stripers 08-13-2022 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231035)
something called the “carried interest loophole” which benefits private equity investors ( not a lot of poor people in that group). recent versions of the inflation reduction. bill included the elimination of that loophole to help pay for it. Sinema, who takes campaign donations from very wealthy private equity folks, had that elimination removed, thus preserving the loophole. The democrats passed the version of the bill which preserved that loophole

Have a good weekend TDF.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna42394
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So are you admitting you don’t realize that sometimes you need to take things out in order to get a holdout vote you need to pass the bill so the majority passes? Of are you just running out of good talking points as this administration continues to pass good legislation that helps average Americans?

Jim in CT 08-13-2022 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1231040)
So are you admitting you don’t realize that sometimes you need to take things out in order to get a holdout vote you need to pass the bill so the majority passes? Of are you just running out of good talking points as this administration continues to pass good legislation that helps average Americans?

my god did you miss the point.

if democrats actually believed in making the rich pay their fair share, they wouldn’t have had to take it out. But they didn’t have the votes within their own party unless they took it out, which necessarily means the democrats as a whole don’t really believe what they claim to believe.

make that wrong.

the democrats quickly became the party of the billionaire class. wall
street leans very much to the left now. So can we just admit it.

i’m old
enough to remember when you guys criticized the right for being the party of the rich. but today it’s a good thing to be the party of the rich? why is that?
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scottw 08-13-2022 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1230961)

According to Rasmussen poll (Trump’s favorite pollster), President Biden's job approval has risen from 36% three weeks ago to 45% today.

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they should keep him in hiding...it's really helping his polling numbers

Pete F. 08-13-2022 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1231043)
my god did you miss the point.

if democrats actually believed in making the rich pay their fair share, they wouldn’t have had to take it out. But they didn’t have the votes within their own party unless they took it out, which necessarily means the democrats as a whole don’t really believe what they claim to believe.

make that wrong.

the democrats quickly became the party of the billionaire class. wall
street leans very much to the left now. So can we just admit it.

i’m old
enough to remember when you guys criticized the right for being the party of the rich. but today it’s a good thing to be the party of the rich? why is that?
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If the Dems like the Trumplicans only passed legislation that was strict party line, they could accomplish as little of value to the American people as the Trumplicans do.

When Republicans have power, they ban abortion, cut billionaires’ taxes and attack LGBT Americans. When Democrats have power, they add jobs, fund veteran care, bring manufacturing home, protect the climate and defend reproductive rights.

Which do you think is better for America?
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Pete F. 08-13-2022 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231045)
they should keep him in hiding...it's really helping his polling numbers

He’s working

With the passage of the Inflation Reduction Act in the House, families will see lower prescription drug prices, lower health care costs, and lower energy costs.
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scottw 08-13-2022 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231046)

If the Dems like the Trumplicans only passed legislation that was strict party line, they could accomplish as little of value to the American people as the Trumplicans do.

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Party-Line Vote Sends $740B Inflation Reduction Act To Biden


Inflation Reduction Act won’t curb inflation ‘over the short run,’ says economist

“Naming it ‘anti-inflation’ is a joke,” Kevin O’Leary, chairman of O’Shares ETFs and judge on CNBC’s “Money Court,” told CNBC’s Squawk Box on Monday. “This is going to be very inflationary almost immediately because we’re printing billions of dollars.”


NY Times 6 days ago — A Congressional Budget Office analysis found that the measure would have little effect on inflation this year.

CBS News
MONEYWATCH

One thing the Inflation Reduction Act may not do: Lower inflation
moneywatch
BY AIMEE PICCHI

Pete F. 08-13-2022 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231048)
Party-Line Vote Sends $740B Inflation Reduction Act To Biden

VoteVets Statement on Passage of the Inflation Reduction Act:

"This is a huge win for Veterans, Troops and America. We thank President Biden and Democrats in Congress - and we won’t forget the Republicans who voted against Veterans."

The official CBO score of the Inflation Reduction Act, including savings from tax enforcement, shows $305 billion in deficit reduction this decade. That includes deficit reduction in 2023 and 2024 – which will help ease near-term inflationary pressures.

Passage of the Inflation Reduction Act will make Biden one of the most legislatively successful presidents of the modern era.

— American Recovery Act
— Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
— Chips and Science Act
— Inflation Reduction Act

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scottw 08-13-2022 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1231051)

Passage of the Inflation Reduction Act will make Biden one of the most legislatively successful presidents of the modern era.


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Polls show that even his own party has very little confidence in him.

Pete F. 08-13-2022 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231090)
Polls show that even his own party has very little confidence in him.

I’ll give you a hint

I will not support ANY Republican who voted for Trump in 2020. That’s virtually EVERY Republican, including DeSantis. So I may never vote Republican again. Our ONLY job now is to defeat this authoritarian party. That means vote Democrat.
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The Dad Fisherman 08-13-2022 07:04 PM

That’s not happening
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nightfighter 08-13-2022 07:19 PM

Both parties are committing hara kiri by continuing to blindly support their most recent presidential office holders.... They both must go on to never being viably electable or even listed on a ballot.

Pete F. 08-13-2022 10:57 PM

For the first time since last November, Democrats have taken the lead over Republicans in the FiveThirtyEight generic congressional polling average, 43.8% to 43.5%.
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Pete F. 08-14-2022 05:36 AM

In 1776, 1/3 of Colonists opposed independence.

In 1860, 1/3 of Americans believed owning other human beings based on the color of their skin was acceptable.

Trump Cult members, like their predecessors, are on wrong side of history and will be swept away accordingly.
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Pete F. 08-14-2022 08:44 AM

Trump’s most popular campaign promises *during the GOP primary* were 1) Medicare negotiating drug prices 2) Infrastructure 3) Having the wealthy pay their fair share in taxes.

Trump accomplished none of them. If the Inflation Reduction Act passes, Biden will have passed all 3.
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Jim in CT 08-14-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1231090)
Polls show that even his own party has very little confidence in him.

come on, you don’t think biden is going on mount rushmore?
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