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Got Stripers 10-30-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204261)
So with admittedly no clue what happened, you nonetheless conclude that Trump caused it all.

Brilliant.

Are you dense, or just so obsessed with finding a Covid Trump win you read but don’t comprehend? NY has nothing to do with My opinion of Trumps handling of Covid and the messaging putting people at risk even today with all we know.

Pete F. 10-31-2020 07:19 AM

U.S. reports 100,000 coronavirus cases in 24 hours, setting world record
Sixteen states reported single-day records for new cases on Friday: Iowa, Kentucky, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Montana, Illinois, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oregon, Kansas, Ohio, Colorado and Maine. And three states hit record deaths: Tennessee, Montana and New Mexico.
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scottw 10-31-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204278)
U.S. reports 100,000 coronavirus cases in 24 hours, setting world record
Sixteen states reported single-day records for new cases on Friday: Iowa, Kentucky, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Montana, Illinois, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oregon, Kansas, Ohio, Colorado and Maine. And three states hit record deaths: Tennessee, Montana and New Mexico.
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it's easy to set records in the first season of the league...(actually, we haven't even had a full season of play yet)

London (CNN) Concern is mounting in Europe as countries smash records for daily coronavirus cases and the World Health Organization warns that the daily death toll on the continent could reach five times its April peak within months.

Got Stripers 10-31-2020 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204285)
it's easy to set records in the first season of the league...(actually, we haven't even had a full season of play yet)

London (CNN) Concern is mounting in Europe as countries smash records for daily coronavirus cases and the World Health Organization warns that the daily death toll on the continent could reach five times its April peak within months.

Yet countries with a strong national message and a population 100% on board with the plan to keep the virus in check are doing well, Australia a perfect example.

Pete F. 10-31-2020 09:50 AM

Europe is doing better. A lot better. Two European countries are ahead of the US in deaths/m. By the time you count 5-6 countries further, the death rate is half of US. And there are a lot more countries to count.

Your premise is flawed.
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scottw 10-31-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204288)
Europe is doing better. A lot better. Two European countries are ahead of the US in deaths/m. By the time you count 5-6 countries further, the death rate is half of US. And there are a lot more countries to count.

Your premise is flawed.
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I didn't mention the death rate....

scottw 10-31-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204287)
Yet countries with a strong national message and a population 100% on board with the plan to keep the virus in check are doing well, Australia a perfect example.

it's not 100% in Australia and they are arresting "peaceful protestors"...is that what you'd like to see?....

wdmso 10-31-2020 01:48 PM

Trump fans possibly due to their denial of science or they just don't give a flying FK

Seem to not understand a low positivity rate equals things being open and
a resemblance or normalcy. Like school or inside dinning

they feel its easier to blame lockdowns On Government rather then taking any responsibility for their own or others behavior. But suggest hospitals and nurses are trying to make money Or a 25% POSITIVITY rate is a lie claiming more testing
Is the reason numbers are up, as if we stopped testing and just started again:deadhorse:

Pete F. 10-31-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204292)
I didn't mention the death rate....

Ya you did
“ the World Health Organization warns that the daily death toll”
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204278)
U.S. reports 100,000 coronavirus cases in 24 hours, setting world record
Sixteen states reported single-day records for new cases on Friday: Iowa, Kentucky, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Montana, Illinois, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Oregon, Kansas, Ohio, Colorado and Maine. And three states hit record deaths: Tennessee, Montana and New Mexico.
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what’s happening to death rates?
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scottw 10-31-2020 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204301)
what’s happening to death rates?
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pete doesn't even recognize the difference between daily death toll and death rates so this might be a stumper for him...he'll just find the highest number on the page and blame trump

Jim in CT 10-31-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204302)
.he'll just find the highest number on the page and blame trump

bingo.
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Got Stripers 10-31-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204301)
what’s happening to death rates?
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Jared said they are practically nothing, the parents, sons, daughters or grandparents of the 1000+ daily dead will be comforted to know the dead mean practically nothing. No empathy ever from this entire family, cold hearted sob’s.
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204306)
Jared said they are practically nothing, the parents, sons, daughters or grandparents of the 1000+ daily dead will be comforted to know the dead mean practically nothing. No empathy ever from this entire family, cold hearted sob’s.
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i asked what happened to death rates. i asked, because they are dropping. you can’t concede that, until biden is sworn in, then watch how you all do a 180. shocker.
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204306)
No empathy ever from this entire family, cold hearted sob’s.
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why do they support school
choice and criminal justice reform? his is not a family that uses public schools, so it necessarily means they have empathy to advocate school
choice.

why did trump increase funding for black colleges? remember it was biden, it trump, who claimed to go to a black college.
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Got Stripers 10-31-2020 03:56 PM

Big deal, their character is flawed every one, Jim I know you will defend them to the end, I can’t wait to see that family go back to reality TV where they belong.
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wdmso 10-31-2020 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204308)
why do they support school
choice and criminal justice reform? his is not a family that uses public schools, so it necessarily means they have empathy to advocate school
choice.

why did trump increase funding for black colleges? remember it was biden, it trump, who claimed to go to a black college.
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School choice is a scam it has nothing to do with helping inner-city kids

Its smoke show to get federal and state funds to pay for religous schools and private schools
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204309)
Big deal, their character is flawed every one, Jim I know you will defend them to the end, I can’t wait to see that family go back to reality TV where they belong.
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we can’t all have perfect character like biden who is a plagiarist a liar with a rape charge against him and credible charges of corruption, and harris who sucked her way to the top in san francisco. yes sir, the party that worships bill clinton, who could spit in a petri dish and start a whole new civilization, has a lot to lecture me about character.

spare me the empty, fake concern for character.
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204311)
School choice is a scam it has nothing to do with helping inner-city kids

Its smoke show to get federal and state funds to pay for religous schools and private schools
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oh! that’s why poor people want it??!!
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Jim in CT 10-31-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204311)
School choice is a scam it has nothing to do with helping inner-city kids

Its smoke show to get federal and state funds to pay for religous schools and private schools
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you don’t even know what school choice is. it’s not about diverting public money elsewhere, it’s about letting me use my money as i see fit to help my kids.

what a concept!!
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Got Stripers 10-31-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204313)
we can’t all have perfect character like biden who is a plagiarist a liar with a rape charge against him and credible charges of corruption, and harris who sucked her way to the top in san francisco. yes sir, the party that worships bill clinton, who could spit in a petri dish and start a whole new civilization, has a lot to lecture me about character.

spare me the empty, fake concern for character.
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Lack of character is really the least of my concerns Jim, but keep believing this administration and its policies are really helping the majority of Americans and this planet. IF his policies were so good for the majority and his handling of Covid was the best any administration could do, please explain to me why it appears the majority of the voting public are about to kick him to the curb. We know it isn’t about character, because everyone knew what he was coming in.

Pete F. 10-31-2020 05:45 PM

Obviously Covita wants to get a head start on herd immunity

Eighteen Trump campaign rallies "ultimately resulted" in more than 30,000 incremental confirmed COVID-19 cases and "likely led to more than 700 deaths," researchers at Stanford University concluded in a study published yesterday.
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scottw 11-01-2020 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204287)
Yet countries with a strong national message and a population 100% on board with the plan to keep the virus in check are doing well, Australia a perfect example.

Australia had it's "second wave" already June-Sept...not a "perfect example"

AUGUST 22, 2 MONTHS AGO

Australia wrestles with coronavirus second-wave



September 9, 2020

A fall Covid-19 spike could be coming
. (And it won't look like anything we've seen so far.)

John Brownstein, a Harvard Medical School professor and ABC News contributor, explained, "As the fall approaches, you have drier conditions. More people are spending more time indoors, so generally the virus is more efficient."

Brownstein also said infections may spike in the fall is because students who return to in-person classes will not be "practicing the same level of social distancing and mask wearing" as they did during initial waves of the epidemic.

But because we know more about addressing the disease, we may fare better, experts say

Got Stripers 11-01-2020 07:41 AM

Australia had no new cases yesterday and we have Americans dying every two minutes and new projections have us at over 400,000 dead by February. Yet Trump is campaigning on this administration having beaten Covid and his idiot sons out saying those daily American deaths are nothing.

scottw 11-01-2020 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204340)
Australia had no new cases yesterday and we have Americans dying every two minutes and new projections have us at over 400,000 dead by February. Yet Trump is campaigning on this administration having beaten Covid and his idiot sons out saying those daily American deaths are nothing.

they are on the backside of their second wave,. actually beyond(Sept 22nd if you look at the graph)...we are in the middle of ours, along with Europe...do you not get that?

Got Stripers 11-01-2020 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204341)
they are on the backside of their second wave,. actually beyond(Sept 22nd if you look at the graph)...we are in the middle of ours, along with Europe...do you not get that?

I guess the Trump family hasn't gotten that briefing, according to them it's behind us, we are around the corner heading for home and deaths are nothing.

scottw 11-01-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204347)

I guess .....

.

I'll give you a mulligan if you want one :hihi:

Pete F. 11-02-2020 07:33 AM

When “Fire Fauci” chants broke out, referring to the federal government’s top infectious disease expert, with whom he has clashed, Covita responded: “Don’t tell anybody, but let me wait ‘til a little bit after the election.”

Covita, two days before the election as he’s delivering his closing message, suggests he’ll fire Fauci - a career appointee who doesn’t work directly for him and who is massively popular - if he wins.
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wdmso 11-02-2020 08:43 AM

Covid: White House accuses top scientist Fauci of 'playing politics'



Wow thats an amazing statement.. guess they dont listen to Trump at his rallies :kewl:

scottw 11-02-2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204398)

if he wins.

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don't fret little marxists...weekend at biden's is up by 57 points nationally and has an 99.7% chance of winning according to the experts...

Pete F. 11-02-2020 09:14 AM

Would this advice be coming from a little fascist?
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scottw 11-02-2020 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204403)
Would this advice be coming from a little fascist?
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you referring to Got Stripers?


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"countries with a strong national message and a population 100% on board"

wdmso 11-02-2020 01:46 PM

El Paso, Texas, Gets 4th Mobile Morgue As COVID-19 Deaths Rise


must be what rounding the corner looks like

Pete F. 11-05-2020 09:10 AM

Obviously rounding the corner

The United States reported 102,831 new coronavirus cases on Wednesday, the highest number of new cases in a single day since the pandemic began.

But, but, but, I was told that it was going away on November 4th. That it was all a hoax. That it was all the media. Covita said so.

Jim in CT 11-05-2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204568)
Obviously rounding the corner

The United States reported 102,831 new coronavirus cases on Wednesday, the highest number of new cases in a single day since the pandemic began.

But, but, but, I was told that it was going away on November 4th. That it was all a hoax. That it was all the media. Covita said so.

Do death rates (which are dropping) matter at all? Or is all that matters, the number of people who get it?

scottw 11-05-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204580)
Do death rates (which are dropping) matter at all? Or is all that matters, the number of people who get it?

the non-mask wearing conservative republican states of Illinios, Wisconsin and California occupied three of the top 4 spots for new cases yesterday...

RIROCKHOUND 11-05-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204580)
Do death rates (which are dropping) matter at all? Or is all that matters, the number of people who get it?

Yes, it matters. The only two metrics that matter are not cases and deaths however.
Given the relatively high percentage of what seem to be longer term complications for many people, that aren't deadly but still serious, this deserves a fair amount of caution still.

Pete F. 11-05-2020 10:22 AM

And soon to come, COVID-19 as a pre-existing condition
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Jim in CT 11-05-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1204583)
, this deserves a fair amount of caution still.

Agreed 100%. I'm responding to the kooks here who believe that overall case counts are all that matter.

The one voice of reason here on the left.

spence 11-05-2020 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204590)
Agreed 100%. I'm responding to the kooks here who believe that overall case counts are all that matter.

I don't know anyone who thinks overall case counts are all that matter. Positivity rate is a big factor. You would think that with increased testing the positivity rate would be going down if the virus was under control but it's actually going up which is really bad.


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