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wdmso 11-19-2019 11:44 AM

just saw this

On the eve of Vindman's testimony, Republican Senator Ron Johnson issued an 11-page letter to top Republicans, suggesting the Purple Heart recipient may have participated "in the ongoing effort to sabotage" Trump's policies "and if possible, remove him from office".

do the conspiracy ever stop

scottw 11-19-2019 12:04 PM

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"in the ongoing effort to sabotage" Trump's policies "and if possible, remove him from office".

no surprise here

wdmso 11-19-2019 12:57 PM

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no surprise here

To bad getting dirt for ones self Aka Trump from the Ukraines isn't . US policy
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detbuch 11-19-2019 01:06 PM

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A college wrestling referee claimed in a new lawsuit that he told Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, and another coach two decades ago that an Ohio State University team doctor had masturbated in the shower in front of him.
But Jordan, who at the time was an assistant Ohio State wrestling coach, and then OSU head coach Russ Hellickson just shrugged off the shocking claim about Dr. Richard Strauss, the suit says.
Jordan and Hellickson responded, "Yeah, that's Strauss,"

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Jordan's response was a prescient understanding of a newly discovered gender--penist exhibitionist. It is a condition that has long manifested itself throughout human history, but has not been understood and has wrongly been condemned as an anti-social act and punished by harsh penalties that merely exacerbate the inherent need to share ones identity with other human beings. It is understood by the penist exhibistionist (a corollary gender also exists, vulvatist exhibitionist) as an act of love, and suppressing or punishing this genetic drive is a cruel and unnecessary criminalization which deprives innocent humans of actuating and expressing their gender identity. Gender studies experts believe that rather than punishing the behavior, it should be socialized by providing various safe-type spaces where it can be more humanely practiced.

Pete F. 11-19-2019 01:58 PM

Jim Jordan says the Mueller investigation came back with nothing, which is an interesting way to characterize multiple, well-evidenced allegations of obstruction of justice by the President & plenty of evidence of contacts between the campaign & Russia.

The Stone trial testimony shows that Floridaman likely perjured himself in his written take home “test”imony
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scottw 11-19-2019 02:47 PM

democraps got nothin'....this is great...hope it never ends :claps:

Sea Dangles 11-19-2019 02:47 PM

Prepare yourselves for more nothing.
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wdmso 11-19-2019 02:51 PM

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Prepare yourselves for more nothing.
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Yes Republicans have presented nothing you are correct . And I expect more of the Same
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Pete F. 11-19-2019 03:37 PM

WILLIAMS: The call was unusual, political, surprising. Never seen anything like it.

VINDMAN: The call was inappropriate. Never seen anything like it.

GOP: See! They don't agree! And they won't say "bribery"!

ALL ATTORNEYS in the world: Uh, these are fact witnesses. That's not their role.

Every GOP defense today was a lie, a misstatement of evidence, a deliberate obfuscation, a slander, the creation of a false distinction, a misapplication of legal principles, or deceit about how due process works.
That is not how criminal defense works.

The Trumplicans never refuted a single point.

If it was a criminal defense, you would have a "theory of the case." Every question develops and brings forward that theory. I've watched/listened to these hearings and there is no Trumplican theory here. They're just throwing smoke grenades everywhere, like Floridaman with a sideshow of Gym Jordan screaming verbiage loud and fast.

What were Trumplicans trying to tell America about Vindman? Is he a liar? A bad soldier? A spy? A man with poor memory? No one watching these hearings could have any idea. Or see how any of these create a theory of the case or any semblance thereof. And that's because the Trumplicans don't have any defense at all.

Even if you claim Trumplicans weren't trying to defend Floridaman, but merely hurling political rhetoric during an impeachment, how is it politically wise to falsely claim that a decorated American soldier somehow is disloyal to America? Who's desperately looking for that case to be made? A little projection from Floridaman, perhaps?

Sea Dangles 11-19-2019 04:17 PM

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Yes Republicans have presented nothing you are correct . And I expect more of the Same
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There is no reason to do so. I hope you are joking.
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Pete F. 11-19-2019 04:49 PM

The facts so far establish that Floridaman used his office to try and secure his own power in 2020.

He did this in a way that undermined the written national security policy of the United States, which he signed, as well as the interests of the American people.

There is no alternative version of events offered by Trumplicans.

The only Trumplican argument left is: You can’t make us care what Floridaman did and he can do whatever he wants as President.

If “we don't care” is an entire political party’s view of a sitting President asking a foreign power to interfere in our elections, then something has gone very, very wrong.

And the problem does not stop with Floridaman.

Will the next election be decided by whomever receives the best dirt on their opponent by saying "If you're listening, give me some dirt on my opponent and you will be very well rewarded.
Russia, I'll give you Ukraine and Finland
China, you'll get Taiwan
Israel, we already gave you the West Bank, produce already.

scottw 11-19-2019 04:50 PM

nobody cares, even the networks are bailing on this joke

Pete F. 11-19-2019 06:45 PM

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nobody cares, even the networks are bailing on this joke

If you say so
Floridaman certainly hopes that is true
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wdmso 11-19-2019 06:54 PM

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There is no reason to do so. I hope you are joking.
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OMG Devin Nunes has done nothing but cry on national television, you guys should be embarrassed

and of course Trumpists to Alexander Vindman: ‘#^&#^&#^&#^& You for Your Service’

scottw 11-19-2019 07:15 PM

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and of course Trumpists to Alexander Vindman: ‘#^&#^&#^&#^& You for Your Service’

so are you suggesting that if someone serves in the military they can never be questioned for the rest of their life?

Pete F. 11-19-2019 07:36 PM

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so are you suggesting that if someone serves in the military they can never be questions for the rest of their life?

All Vindman did was tell the truth
For that he was called a “nevertrumper, it was intimated that he had dual loyalties and that he did not do his job
Perhaps you could explain what he did that was not done correctly or went outside the chain of command
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wdmso 11-19-2019 08:24 PM

Nunes closing statements
Another embarrassment. For a member of congress
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wdmso 11-19-2019 08:27 PM

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so are you suggesting that if someone serves in the military they can never be questioned for the rest of their life?

Seems you dont understand the difference bettween a question and accusation.. all with out evidence mind you
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Pete F. 11-19-2019 09:25 PM

CASTRO: Putting President Trump aside, do you believe that it is proper for any president…to ask a foreign govt. to investigate a U.S. citizen, and specifically a U.S. citizen that could be a political rival?

VOLKER: I don't believe it is appropriate

MORRISON: I agree
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spence 11-19-2019 10:47 PM

Another day, more firsthand evidence, more amending testimony, more fact witnesses cooreberating the bribery scandal. Nunes looks like a fool. All they can do it ask questions the witnesses don’t have visibility to and smear honest civil servants and patriots.

It’s sickening.
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detbuch 11-19-2019 11:10 PM

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CASTRO: Putting President Trump aside, do you believe that it is proper for any president…to ask a foreign govt. to investigate a U.S. citizen, and specifically a U.S. citizen that could be a political rival?

VOLKER: I don't believe it is appropriate

MORRISON: I agree
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Phew . . . good thing there were more questions and answers than that.

detbuch 11-19-2019 11:11 PM

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Another day, more firsthand evidence, more amending testimony, more fact witnesses cooreberating the bribery scandal. Nunes looks like a fool. All they can do it ask questions the witnesses don’t have visibility to and smear honest civil servants and patriots.

It’s sickening.
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I agree. The whole thing is sickening.

Sea Dangles 11-19-2019 11:45 PM

Funny watching some of these fleabags grasping at fame.
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scottw 11-20-2019 01:47 AM

it's pretty obvious who ran to the "whistleblower"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2Ih...gQvLAzqvWERrM4

Pete F. 11-20-2019 07:51 AM

It’s the whistleblower’s fault?
Silly boy
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Sea Dangles 11-20-2019 08:01 AM

Absolutely perfect.
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Pete F. 11-20-2019 11:10 AM

Absolutely Perfect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWN6Lck4dpA

Got Stripers 11-20-2019 11:14 AM

After Sondland's opening statement Nunes was seen rushing into the mens room to change his shorts and probably throw up.

Sea Dangles 11-20-2019 11:36 AM

Your excitement guarantees a large helping.🎯🍔
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Pete F. 11-20-2019 11:47 AM

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Your excitement guarantees a large helping.🎯🍔
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Really wish this was a clip

https://twitter.com/i/status/1197184057249062915

Pete F. 11-20-2019 01:27 PM

Adam Schiff and his team have run the most effective Congressional probe in history.

After being informed of the WB complaint on Sep 9, in a little over two months they have broken WH obstruction, got documents & testimony, flipped reluctant witnesses, and revealed the entire plot.

Seriously impressive.

Here's what Trump is looking at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L8kYsXg5jQ

wdmso 11-21-2019 01:32 PM

Can anyone explain to me Why republicans keep bringing up the Javelin anti tank weapon system ..

I am trying to understand what it has to do with the phone call other to just say see they got them whats the issue ???

I am sure a white house visit for ukraine would have been far less expensive for American Tax payers and 100% more beneficial to ukraine both domestically and regionally...

I am sure Trump put as much thought into this as he did syria

Pete F. 11-21-2019 01:42 PM

They have nothing else
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wdmso 11-21-2019 03:06 PM

Lev Parnas Helped Rep. Devin Nunes' Investigations

Jim in CT 11-21-2019 04:11 PM

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They have nothing else
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which explains why republicans hold zero elected offices. we have nothing. we don’t have the white house, the senate, and
majority of governorships. Nope. We have nothing.
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Got Stripers 11-21-2019 04:53 PM

Hill nailed it today, he will be impeached in the house and Mitch will have a OMG we have to do it trial and then we get to watch Trump show us his true colors again in the 2020 campaign and those on the fence will likely say that’s enough of that.
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Jim in CT 11-21-2019 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1180008)
Hill nailed it today, he will be impeached in the house and Mitch will have a OMG we have to do it trial and then we get to watch Trump show us his true colors again in the 2020 campaign and those on the fence will likely say that’s enough of that.
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that could well happen. or, if the democratic nominee is a marxist jerk and the economy is still roaring, people on the fence may flock to trump. there’s a political risk to all this for the democrats. no way of knowing how this will play in FL, NC, OH, WI. I don’t think Harris, Warren, Sanders, or Buttigieg has a prayer against Trump, but that's a guess on my part, and unlike democratic witnesses, i can differentiate between my opinions and fact.
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PaulS 11-21-2019 06:01 PM

As with what's happening with Suburban moms I think finally others will say they're tired of this vile, lying, classless grifter and maybe some of their class will come out and they'll vote for someone else.
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Jim in CT 11-21-2019 07:27 PM

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As with what's happening with Suburban moms I think finally others will say they're tired of this vile, lying, classless grifter and maybe some of their class will come out and they'll vote for someone else.
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very good chance that’s exactly what happens. who knows.

do you think that many of the democratic candidates are potentially too extremely liberal
for those suburbanites in middle
america? and what about the economy? the libs here will
do anything to avoid admitting how well the economy is doing ( pete thinks it’s tanking), but that has to help him a little.

a fascinating conflict of
forces. trumps divisiveness and
vulgarity work against him. working for him, are the economy and the freak show of candidates to oppose him, outside of biden.
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wdmso 11-21-2019 09:28 PM

Just saw Congresswoman Elise Stefanik while on fox's Hannity show AKA Trump TV ask viewers for money for Her re - election campaign


never seen such a thing. clearly unethical ting from FOX or the congress women


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