Seems Republicans in the White House Trumps Family. The secret service the senate and the house will have herd immunity before the Nation. It must be a sign of strength and they will wear it like a badge of Honor

President Trump was following my condition and cleared me for the monoclonal antibody therapy that he had previously received, which I am convinced saved my life," Carson wrote
Kam happy for him and his family
But
Is this ethical?

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Obviously if you’re a good boy and behave we’ll take care of you. Especially if you’re the house........,,,..
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At some point we should look at whether Sweden's experiment ind heard immunity worked out
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we should go back and look at a lot of what was said and speculated too:uhuh:

"Back in May, just after COVID-19 spiked across America, President Trump made a bold prediction about a coronavirus vaccine.

"We're looking to get it by the end of the year if we can, maybe before," Trump said May 14 in a White House Rose Garden event.

The next day, he wrote on Twitter: "Vaccine work is looking VERY promising, before end of year."

The mainstream media didn't like that prediction, not one little bit.

"But experts say that the development, testing and production of a vaccine for the public is still at least 12 to 18 months off, and that anything less would be a medical miracle," NBC News wrote May 15 in a "fact check."

NBC also sought comment from Dr. Stanley Plotkin, credited with inventing a rubella vaccine in 1964. "In the best of circumstances, we should have a vaccine — or let's say vaccines — between 12 and 18 months," Plotkin said.

Meanwhile, FactCheck.org investigated reports that Trump said in September a vaccine would be ready "by the end of the year."

Trump said in a Labor Day press conference. "What I said is 'by the end of the year.' But I think it could even be sooner than that. It could be during the month of October, actually. Could be before November."

"We looked through Trump's past comments on a vaccine, and did not find any cases in which he declared a vaccine would definitely be available by October or November," FactCheck.org wrote on Sept. 11 in a piece headlined, "Trump Exaggerates Progress."

"But he has suggested that the earlier time frame is even more likely. Experts and governmental officials disagree with that assessment."

Then there was CNN, which wrote a piece in August headlined, "Fact Check: Will there be a coronavirus vaccine by November?"

"Nothing is certain, and Trump's optimism might be crushed in the coming months," CNN wrote. "Some experts warn against throwing out specific dates and timelines. 'I think it's very dangerous at this point to give specific dates,' former Surgeon Gen. Dr. Vivek Murthy told CNN's Wolf Blitzer ..."

Slaoui said on CNN's "State of the Union." "On the 11th or the 12th of December, hopefully, the first people will be immunized across the United States, across all states."

dear wayne...I bet more people are wearing masks more often than were wearing masks back in May....but somehow covid is surpassing May numbers by quite a bit....especially in states with democat governors who can, apparently, do whatever they deem necessary to protect their populations so why haven't these democrat governors and wanna-be democrats like baker stopped the spread of covid in their respective states???

The earlier the vaccine is approved, the better - right?

Agin you don’t see this a failed leadership From Trump and many Republicans,

so let me make this easy 50% if not more of those 74 million who voted have the odd idea in their head planted by Trump that the election was stolen due to mass fraud based on no evidence, based on Just what Trump told them, these same people think masks don’t work that their an infringement on their rights
And COVID just like the flu So being asked to social distance or limit gathering in your home is seen in the same light ,

It’s kind a hard to. Just say it’s every place or increased testing are the reasons it’s exploding .

so basically if Trump could convince his followers of fraud he could have done the same with everything COVID but he did not and others followed his lack of leadership SD Governor seems to playing the same Trump card

You keep using terms like prevention why make a suggest that’s isn’t factual ? when the plan is and has always been about mitigation and the list below shows were these were applied and followed the positive rates are lower

SD positivity rate 24%
RI 6%
Ma 3.5 %

Wyoming: 58.9 percent positive

New daily cases: 1,262

Tests per 1,000: 2.6



South Dakota: 44.1

New daily cases: 783

Tests per 1,000: 2.8



Iowa: 43.1

New daily cases: 3,128

Tests per 1,000: 2.2



Idaho: 40.1

New daily cases: 1,437

Tests per 1,000: 1.9



Kansas: 38.2

New daily cases: 7,707

Tests per 1,000: 2.5



Pennsylvania: 25.4

New daily cases: 6,800

Tests per 1,000: 2



New Mexico: 23.9

New daily cases: 2,252

Tests per 1,000: 5.3



Missouri: 22.6

New daily cases: 3,533

Tests per 1,000: 3.3



Alabama: 22.2

New daily cases: 1,574

Tests per 1,000: 2



Utah: 19.6

New daily cases: 2,244

Tests per 1,000: 5.4



Montana: 18.7

New daily cases: 701

Tests per 1,000: 6



Arizona: 18.5

New daily cases: 2,659

Tests per 1,000: 2.7



Mississippi: 18.2

New daily cases: 699

Tests per 1,000: 2.4



Oregon: 16.3

New daily cases: 1,163

Tests per 1,000: 1.8



Ohio: 15.9

New daily cases: 11,885

Tests per 1,000: 4.5



Wisconsin: 14.9

New daily cases: 3,455

Tests per 1,000: 7.4



Tennessee: 14.9

New daily cases: 4,074

Tests per 1,000: 3.6



Nevada: 14.1

New daily cases: 2,339

Tests per 1,000: 4.7



North Dakota: 13.6

New daily cases: 714

Tests per 1,000: 11.8



Arkansas: 13.4

New daily cases: 1,017

Tests per 1,000: 4.2



Oklahoma: 13.4

New daily cases: 3,544

Tests per 1,000: 5.7



Minnesota: 13.3

New daily cases: 6,343

Tests per 1,000: 8.7



Nebraska: 12.7

New daily cases: 1,860

Tests per 1,000: 9.3



Indiana: 11.9

New daily cases: 5,556

Tests per 1,000: 7.8



Michigan: 11.4

New daily cases: 11,943

Tests per 1,000: 6.5



Illinois: 10.9

New daily cases: 8,322

Tests per 1,000: 8.2



Kentucky: 10.6

New daily cases: 2,132

Tests per 1,000: 6.4



Colorado: 10.1

New daily cases: 3,689

Tests per 1,000: 8.5



Texas: 9.8

New daily cases: 6,251

Tests per 1,000: 3.7

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...s-july-14.html


How is Trumps border wall so much different than a mask?

Is it built to prevent illegal immigration or to slow illegal immigrants
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So if Trump came out back in March and said let’s lock #^&#^&#^&#^& down and everybody must wear a mask, the 77 milllion that didn’t vote for him would have just unquestioningly said “That’s a great idea, I’m gonna do it” :rolleyes:
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Most were already doing it.. pay attention

Trump never cared about those 77 mil and still dosnt. Covid or voting hes attacked both . Heas aFake American
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If he had come out in his first COVID presser and demonstrated a few basic hygiene requirements (I assume you know them) and said we’re going to use the guidance, science, blah blah, He would have been re-elected.
That’s the opposite of what he did.
He didn’t need 77 million only around 3.5.
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please explain why trump has advcoated for, and celebrated, the following:

lowest black unemployment ever
school choice
criminal justice reform
increasing funding for black college creation of economic opportunity zones
doubling the standard deduction on income taxes
expanding child tax credits on income taxes

think about who benefits the most from those things. and tell me why trump advocated for them, please?
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Nobody was doing it back in March, get a calendar, or a clue.

The CDC recommended masks in April.

“The wearing of non-medical face masks in public to lessen transmission of COVID-19 in the United States was first recommended by the CDC on April 3, 2020 as supplemental to hygiene and appropriate social distancing.”

If you remember correctly, there was a mask shortage in March.
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boy are they comfortable
revising history to fit their TDS needs. it’s as if trump himself had all the masks and respirators in february and refused to share because he’s a sociopath.
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Move on broken record

You still think black unemployment was a plan of Trumps ? A rising tides lifts all boats Jim we’ve been over this .

Just accept it Trumps COVID response shows little concern of the Heath of Americans, since the elections he has made it abundantly clear he has quit being President crying about voter fraud spending more time trying to overturn an election while the nation COVID cases and deaths spike! He has told the nation F you I am done how dare you vote me out.

Greatest President in our life times

Most un-American President in our life is more like it
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That’s all you got 1 month? That’szz your response . You sound like Jim and his black unemployment .

The CDC the task force all adjusted and issued and updated as they went

Trump and his cult ran in place and are still in the same place.

funny his attacks on our election and his fraud claims get little attention.. from you Jim or Scott .. but but March American 1st ya ok
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so it’s valid for you to say trump
doesn’t care about half the country. that’s ok. but if i offer evidence to contradict that statement, i’m a broken record living in the past.

is that about right?

how much does biden care about those who disagree with him? he said to blacks that republicans “want to put y’all back in chains.”. he said that blacks aren’t really black unless they’re for him.

so how would i then conclude, that biden likes me and will represent my interests, if he thinks i’m advocating for slavery?
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Well, with the two week mask differential aside :doh:, many places were in lockdown by the end of March. Trump was also on the plus side for approval vs disapproval, all while most of the states heavy on the 77 million were in lockdown. I am guessing if he weren't such a moron about things and had behaved more like you supposed, he would probably be president going forward. Many of the 77 million wouldn't like his 50k other flaws, but his pandemic handling could have been just enough to save him. Oh darn.

My point isn’t about winning or losing the election, my point is that whatever he said to do, half the country would have done the opposite because.....Trump.

Whether it’s right or wrong, they would just ignore it because of who delivered the message.
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Are you an angry black man trapped in a white mans body ?

Again nothing about Trump trying to overturn an American election shocking
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and because the entire media would’ve said that whatever he said, was the dumbest possible thing to say, and racist to boot.
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when i point out something that you can’t refute, you always come back with an insult. are you a low-iq baby trapped in an adults body? you have a lot more in common with trump than you think.

Have you ever once agreed with a conservative? on anything? No. because in your amazingly simpleton mind, liberals are always right. they can’t be wrong, not ever, you’re not sophisticated enough to process that both sides can possibly have good points on different issues. that’s way too co
complicated for you. Trump, especially, must be wrong in everything. every. single. thing.


for the tenth time, here’s my take on the election challenges...if he doesn’t have anything credible by the early december deadline, he deserves all the criticism he gets, for saying it was stolen.
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Aaahhhh....once again entering into a discussion with you has sent me scurrying for my migraine medication. :wall:

You have a good day and hopefully Santa will bring you some new crayons for Christmas
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We’ll never know? he never even tried !

He has put more effort in suggesting mass voter fraud, he convinced millions of that .. over 70 different tweets and press conferences to that affect

He convinced millions COVID was over we were rounding the corner he convinced millions masks didn’t work he convinced millions look I got COVID and recovered so it ain’t so bad he mocked those who chose to wear a mask as did many of his fellow Republicans..and still do

I said it in a different thread, all Trump needed to do was to make an honest attempt or fake it to make it. That he cared Americans would have cut him some slack , on the pandemic

But he couldn’t , he just kept playing to his base and they played to him so focused on each other they convinced each other they couldn’t be beat , and if they lost it would be everyone else’s fault, and stolen
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what did he never try to do?

he restricted travel
from china ( and was attached for it).

he sent hospital ships and ventilators to hot spots. had the feds make makeshift hospitals in NY. liberal governors of NY and CA came out and thanked him, said he was being a good partner.

he partnered with private sector to ramp up testing, manufacturing of testing equipment, and ventilators.

now, his style and tone early on, were in my opinion too casual. but his policies? what did he not do, that you think he should have done? by april most of the nation was locked down, everyone was wearing masks. so what should he have done?
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Maybe in yours and Tweety's world it started in April, but Vermont with the lowest rate in the country started in March and I know my wife and mother were both sewing masks then.
By the way we were back to work in mid April, but maybe we should have listened to Tweety, just kept going and ended up in South Dakota's situation with one in a thousand dead.

GOVERNOR PHIL SCOTT ISSUES A “STAY HOME, STAY SAFE” ORDER, DIRECTS ADDITIONAL CLOSURES
24 MARCH 2020
Montpelier, Vt. – Governor Phil Scott today issued a “Stay Home, Stay Safe” order and directed the closure of in-person operations for all non-essential businesses.

Gov Cuomo directly caused hundreds of deaths when he ordered nursing homes to admit covid residents, when we all knew this was a disease that was especially deadly to the elderly.

Cuomo gets an award from liberals for his covid leadership. his state is by far, the worst place for covid.

liberals don’t care about results. they’re impervious to results.
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Again your upset like Trump because Cuomo gave better information to Americans than Trump

Results do matter hence Trump lost

Ps Trump Push To Invalidate Votes In Heavily Black Cities Alarms Civil Rights Groups

But but unemployment
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A ship I wouldn’t call that special ramping up vents True all things expected of any POTUS

so Jim and what has he done since?
Besides try to claim an elections was stolen with massive fraud with zero evidence

I guess you support him in that endeavor as well
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'Cuomo gave better information to Americans than Trump"

Like telling seniors with covid that nursing homes were the best place for them? That was good information?

"Results do matter "

You can't criticize Cuomo for sending the virus to nursng homes, because hes a democrat. Results don't matter to you, only The Narrative matters. Complimenting democrats is all that matters.

I'll prove it...

name one meaningful issue, just one, on which you think liberals are wrong and conservatives are right.

'A ship I wouldn’t call that special " Ubnless a democratd did it, then it would be special.

I asked you a very specific question, which naturally you dodged.

What should Trump have done, that he didn't do, based on information we had at that time?

'what has he done since?"

Well he implemented operation warp speed to facilitate the production of a vaccine, there's that.

Have you seen how death rates are trending? Here's an NPR published study showing that death rates are about one-third of what they were at the start. But let's ignore that, because God forbid we admit anything that might make him look good!


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...19-death-rates

You say he did a crappy job, but can't point to one single thing you think he should have done. You're criticizing him, and you're admitting that you don't even know why. TDS in all of its glory.

Meanwhile our testing capabilities are way up, death rates are way down, and the vaccine is on track to e available sooner than is typical.

Incredible to me, but not the least bit surprising, that you can't criticize Cuomo, who obviously has blood on his hands here.

I know your point. I meant to say approval of pandemic handling was initially positive. I don't believe any large part of the population would have given him grief for taking appropriate measures to protect people if he could have done it and acted like a responsible adult at minimum. Bush was hugely popular for his initial handling of 9/11 soon after one of them most contacting l contentious elections in history. Trump isn't historically unpopular because of spite, it is because he is a childish buffoon.
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Tweety is a loser
He and the rest of the victims need to get over it
Besides you're not seeing any business person really upset that Donald Trump is moving on because the street loves stability, and Donald Trump is the antithesis of stability.
That’s why the Dow hit a new record high
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If only Barr could have delivered on his Durham report hehe, they should have put Rudy in charge of getting that earth shattering news out.

part of it is trumps fault. part is a media determined to help
democrats and determined to smear republicans.

They portrayed Bush as an idiot and a racist ( despite the fact that he did more for africa, literally, than any human who has ever lived).

McCain was a senile old racist.

Romney was a heartless plutocrat who objectified women.

how much time did every network except fox, spend cornering any of the following:

tax cuts that did actually help
the poor ( doubled the standard deduction, increased child tax credits)

lowest black unemployment ever

increased funding for black colleges

criminal justice reform

no questionable wars

progress towards peace in the middle east

america energy independent

for gods sake, three years after charlottesville, they’re still
saying he didn’t denounce racists there, when the transcript clearly shows he did

i’m not saying he deserves a love fest like obama got, and which biden is getting and will get. but it would be nice if the media could be fair, fair meaning we accurately cover the pros and the cons.

look at the lefties here. only one of them, exactly one, can say anything good about a conservative or critical of a democrat.

there’s a reason why greedy companies are happy to spend a million bucks on a 30 second tv commercial, because it works.

Biden got a free infomercial, 24 hours a day, for 4 years
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but can't point to one single thing you think he should have done

warp speed yes he should get credit for funding it yet another example another of seeing praise for Trump doing what’s expected of any POTUS

Funny Cuomo has blood on his hands for making a decision

Yet for you Trump makes no decision no blood on his hands

Trump trying to overturn an election with lies and no existing Fraud and your ok with that

Yes testing is up deaths are down
Yet
Hospital admission are at an all time high deaths are on the increase

And our lame duck Trump as always takes credit for the things that make him look good , like stock market and takes no other responsibility when thing go south and blames everyone else

That’s not what leaders do
Hence that’s why he’s no leader
He’s an opportunist

Yet

In the three weeks since Election Day, President Trump’s most visible presence has been on Twitter. Since Nov. 3, he has posted some 550 tweets — about three-quarters of which attempted to undermine the integrity of the 2020 election results.

While COVID runs rampant what a petty man
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Georgia Republicans!
Only you Georgians get a chance, on January 5, to vote AGAIN for Trump-Pence! To show true loyalty!
In the Special Senate election runoff, write in Donald Trump (he's special!).
In the Regular Senate election runoff, write in Mike Pence (he's regular!).
MAGA!
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Only 3% of Trump Voters Believe Joe Biden Is Legitimate Winner None of that 3% comment here
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wdmso, i mean this sincerely...do you have brain damage? you keep
saying i’m ok with his dragging out the election suits. i keep
saying that if he has no compelling evidence, he deserves to be criticized. i think he’s making an idiot out of himself, but i’ll wait to see if anything comes out between now and december. i am criticizing him. is that going over your head?

your side spent 3.5 years trying to find a way to undo the 2016 election. you never said they should give up and accept it, not once. so i’m not sure where you get the nerve to lecture anyone in this issue, but putting that aside, i think i biden won fair and square based on what i’ve seen. if you still don’t grasp it, i’ll try to put it in a pop up book, would that help you understand?
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no one here knows what that gibberish means.
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Now onto the corrupt pardons phase of the presidential transition
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