I’ll wait till December not a single word of condemnation , which means I have no issues with him lying about mass voter fraud and claiming he won the election.. I get it your doing what ever Trump supporters are doing the excusing his overthrow attempt of the election , hiding behind he’s allowed his legal challenges BS

As for 2016 no one suggested The elections were rigged and rampant with voter frauds was the cause of Trumps wins no re counts or delays where argued in courts or state officials called to the White House or election officials called with suggestions of delay , it was suggested Russians influenced the election not the same.

Then trumps is responsible for his behavior in office hence his problems , I guess you ignored like Republicans. Actual evidence presented by actual officials not soliciting fraud claims on a web site ?

but as if on cue you like Trump blame everyone one else for the situations he finds himself in ..in 2016 and now

What concerns me the most who are the people who actually came up with Trumps assault plans on our elections if he lost. Because it was ready to go on election night.

we both know Trump didn’t think it any of this by himself , and clearly no one told him it’s very close to looking like Sedition minus violent part, but we’ve got Time
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Only 3% of Trump Voters Believe Joe Biden Is Legitimate

Are you part of this 3%
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Please tell me how many times I need to say it, before you can understand it? How many? 100? 250?

From everything I know, Biden won the election fair and square. I see zero evidence that fraud was at the level where it won the election from Biden.

How much more clear can I be, before you get it? Do you only speak gibberish, do you struggle with actual English? What about that, is too complicated for you? Which words, exactly, don't you understand? Find a toddler, and ask him to explain this to you, maybe that will help.

Now, since you clearly have issues with people who can't accept that their candidate lost, how come you never once complained about your side spending 3.5 years denying they lost the 2016 election? Or is it only bad when republicans do it?

Poor victim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc

Now the poor victim will skyscream for the next 4 years...........:lossinit::lasso:

Jim saying Biden won fare a square and you see no fraud

In no way shape or form does that statement address Trumps attempts and attacks on our elections claiming he won when he hasn’t and providing zero evidence of fraud

ask a toddler I am sure they’ll agree

as for 2016 and 2020 they are not the same this has been explained yet you insist that some how there is a comparison to be made ...
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"Jim saying Biden won fare a square and you see no fraud "

I see plenty of fraud, but not nearly enough to tilt the presidential election. If Trump has no additional evidence, he was being very reckless and dishonest by saying that the election was stolen. Again, you're the only person on the planet who doesn't see what I'm saying.

He's being no more dangerous and reckless, than the democrats were from 2017-2020, who never stopped trying to undo the 2016 election. Nor any more reckless than Hilary was when she told Biden never to concede under any circumstances, to drag it out as long as humanly possible. He's doing EXACTLY what Hilary told Biden to do, and not one liberal here had a critical syllable for Hilary. Not one Because it's OK when you do it.

"as for 2016 and 2020 they are not the same"

Right. In 2016, it was your side who lost and couldn't admit it. And it's fine when you do it.

New Evidence finds Voters colluded against Trump

Your Truly are not a history buff
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Trump called in from the White House to an informal meeting of Pennsylvania lawmakers, repeating baseless claims about the election being "rigged."

"This election has to be turned around," Trump said, though the election results have already been certified in a number of key states, including Pennsylvania, and the formal transition process to the incoming Biden



Yea Jim just like 2016.
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You're making fun of my recollection of history?

Have democrats not been saying since November 2016, that Russia played a role in Trumps win? What's the evidence of that, exactly?

And did democrats not spend years trying to undo that election? Various witch hunts? Tax returns, russian collusion, quid pro quo? Endless claims that he was an illegitimate president? Democrats and media talking heads didn't call him illegitimate for the whole term?

Instead of simply saying my recollection of history is wrong, why not go a bit further and show us? What did I say, which didn't happen?

Jim buy a dictionary and look up fraud then influenced

Your getting more desperate in every post
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Well, when “winning the internet and owning the libs” is dependent on belief and support of a corrupt demagogue, you’re in a tough spot.
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More than 91,500 people were hospitalized with the virus on Saturday, with 18,000 in intensive care units. That's according to data compiled by the COVID Tracking Project, which collects and analyzes data from across the United States. Over 6,000 patients were on ventilators.

And Trumps Golfing And claiming election fraud ,, Saw he has golfed a 5th of his time in office

But his base was outraged when the black guy golfed
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what do you suppose biden would have done if potus, to improve those numbers?

guy keep saying trump blew it, but can’t give any specifics. meaning, you don’t know why you’re saying it.
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But everyone has and all you do is recite Tweety’s gaslighting
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Jim he didn’t even attempt to care that COVID was a problem ... isn’t that enough , and he still doesn’t
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Jim is going down with the ship, defending the indefensible and convinced nobody could have done more. I’d say nobody could have done worse, not a single candidate on either side, which is why this country kicked his sorry good for nothing arse to the curb.

i didn’t defend trump. i merely asked for an example. only a group of guys who all share unsupported beliefs would criticize me for asking for an example.

“i’d say nobody could have done worse.”

ok. then tell me what you suspect biden would have done better, exactly? last spring we were shut down, everyone was wearing masks, we worked to ramp up testing and vaccines and protective gear.

give me specifics? accurate specifics if it’s not too much to ask?

i think trumps tone was waaay to casual early on, but in practical terms, i don’t see that it mattered much. the policies he enacted indicate plenty of urgency. enough so that cuomo and newsom each praised trump for helping their states.

GS, what would you say about cuomos policy of forcing nursing homes to admit covid positive patients? long after we all knew that it targeted the elderly?

or pelosi and diblasio saying in late february that it was safe to go out in crowded public places?

lemme guess, trump made them
do it.
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Oh no Jim evidence this virus was in the US long before it was public, there goes that default travel ban argument and now Barr has called the election final, you going to be OK?
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RI opening field hospitals US hits nearly 2,600 COVID-19 deaths in one day -- the highest since April

Let me guess it’s just more testing , and these deaths are the Flu
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Republicans Make Up 70% Of The Members Of Congress Who Have Tested Positive For Covid-19 Hummm?
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A record 3,157 Americans died yesterday from covid-19, meaning that more than 1 out of 100 of our pandemic fatalities occurred in those 24 hours.

Meanwhile, a deranged Trump soothes his wounded ego by spreading insane, destructive lies about the election he lost.
And Trumplican leadership......crickets
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Trump tweets over 400 times about the election since Election Day. Guess how many COVID tweets. 1. Saying Rudy has covid
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Touched by Trump’s tweet this morning honoring the lives lost in Pearl Harbor on this date and admitting we are now losing more Americans every day than we lost in those attacks due to his lack of morals and leadership.
Just kidding, he tweeted about himself and attacked Kemp.
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Left, middle or Right. pointing fingers is not going to keep you safe from the global dominators. There is more to this virus than you know.
listen to this guy and see if he makes any good points, when you put everything together that is going on you will get the picture. If you don't want to think for yourself, go ahead and continue to be a manipulated useful idiot sheep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGB1-YFn1Q

one sheep clearly isn’t thinking at all


Same guy who said it’s lab made in February

James Lyons-Weiler. We’ve met him once before on this blog, when he attacked a study that found that autism is primarily genetic. In brief, he’s a former scientist. (I say “former” because he has abandoned good science in favor of antivaccine pseudoscience and no longer rates that title in my estimation, given the sorts of antivaccine pseudoscience he’s published


https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/jam...iracy-vaccine/
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So we're manipulated useful idiot sheep because we don't want to think for ourselves yet you are telling us to watch someone who will tell us how to think? 🤣
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China is the one to watch out for, not Russia. Plenty of sheep in the world as long as everyone is using labels.

I chuckled today because during the NBC Nightly Lester Holt was talking how we can get toward Herd Immunity.

The gaslighting is actually quite amazing.

My sister the biggest hypochondriac and anti vaccine person I know would love that, personally I will go with real science and be happy to roll up my sleeve when I can get one.

The irony is my sister who won’t even get a flu shot is always complaining about being sick.
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You know the fringe groups on this are Adopting a strategy of natural herd immunity or Aka let the Virus run it’s course .. It’s criminal and it’s unethical,” we are seeing how well that’s going
Aka slipknots you tube guy the anti mask crowd anti lock down folks

And medical based professionals who clearly see that idea as. It’s criminal and it’s unethical,” and suggest herd immunity can be reached thru mass vaccination social distance and Masks reduces transmission and then Herd immunity could possible occurs I stress Could because their is no science to suggest it’s out come is certain


so how is Holt Gas lighting because I listed there are 2 distinct roads to possible herd immunity which one was he speaking

Because Republicans plan of doing nothing clearly is doing nothing to slow the spread of Covid

And this is why many area who were against Mask because it was an infringement on their Right (BS)

Are now being impacted by Covid and are saying WTF , maybe we need to re think this
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The Pres. said:

'You develop immunity over a period of time. And I hear we're close to 15% [of Americans], I'm hearing that, and that's terrific, that's a very powerful vaccine in itself,' he told reporters on Tuesday.


280K deaths "terrific"

Clearly the greatest president of our lifetime

You can't assume trends from one example, but my sister in law tested positive last summer, and just tested positive again last week. She's an ER nurse. Maybe she was one in a million. Or maybe there will be no herd immunity as the strand changes slightly...

Trump said it is “terrific” that 15 percent of the population has been infected with COVID (we were at 11.7% as of Nov. 28, per CDC). He meant that as a suggestion we’re getting towards herd immunity, which would be around 70%. So, clearly, not close and very much not terrific
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Is someone’s time out over, hey in case you miss something, you owe John’s charity of choice $100 and let your fellow “easy” money comrade Ronny know. Unless of course you are in the delusional camp thinking Trump will get a second term.

My niece is a nurse also but in the Nicu. Brave people (along with anyone who works on the front lines). Tell her when people hear she is a nurse they say how brave they are. I tell my niece things like that all the time.

My brother knows one person who had it twice. Hopefully, there aren't that many.

15 year old in my neighborhood also tested positive this week, he tested positive last spring as well. who
knows.

i agree with every syllable
of your post, well said. merry christmas paul!!
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I think a lot of people lump together the terms Covid 19 and Coronavirus and that causes some confusion. When you get tested they are testing for the presence of the coronavirus, not Covid 19. Covid19 is the illness that people develop from the virus. Covid 19 is from a diagnosis, not a test.

IMHO people can probably be testing positive multiple times for its presence but their immune systems fight it off pretty handily, hence the amount of asymptomatic people.

Just my 2 cents
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