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Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
Yup. But he's the virtuous one. You cannot make that up.



that's an insult?

Files copied from voting systems were shared with Trump supporters, election deniers

A Georgia computer forensics firm, hired by the attorneys, placed the files on a server, where company records show they were downloaded dozens of times. Among the downloaders were accounts associated with a Texas meteorologist who has appeared on Sean Hannity’s radio show; a podcaster who suggested political enemies should be executed; a former pro surfer who pushed disproven theories that the 2020 election was manipulated; and a self-described former “seduction and pickup coach” who claims to also have been a hacker.

So let me guess . They are Trumps lawyers but Trump shoulders no responsibility for their actions?

It’s that how it works ?
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You don’t find failing public schools and charter schools in wealthy neighborhoods, do you?

Why would that be?

Because wealthy locales add more burden on to their local taxpayers, who are willing to pay and insist on quality education.
Now Jim and other school choice disciples have no desire to increase funding, instead they want to spread it thinner using vouchers to replace public education funding.
The magical privatization theory, good for schools, prisons, roads, rail, etc.
Wonder why we keep losing ground in the world?
Public schools would have less money to work with because what they used to receive is now a voucher that is handed out.
The only families left behind are those who cannot make up the difference of the voucher (thus, lower-income families) and those with disabled children. Because private schools do not have to take disabled children.

Unfortunately those left behind are the most expensive and it would only get worse.

Now some think that teachers need to just do more for less, because they should feel privileged to be responsible for the education of our greatest asset.
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And don't forget the issue of fixed/variable cost. If there are fewer students you still need to spend the same for services such as heating the building, provide the same security/guards, etc. You still need to run the same buses, etc. End result is lower $ to provide services while subsidizing students to go to private school. As I said the most engage parents would take their children out while the students w/o engaged parents with the most needs would be left further behind. I guess they would need to lift themselves up by the bootstraps.

yes, as you said, you advocate for punishing the few engaged parents, because you believe it’s their job to leave their kids in crappy schools for the benefit of others, rather than let them
flourish in good schools

yet you claim you care more about those parents than i do.

Keep bleating the narrative paul.
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The few would leave and benefit while the majority would be still be in the public schools with fewer resources.

It is all about what is best for Jim - screw the less fortunate. Typical Conservate mantra.

"the majority would be still be in the public schools with fewer resources. "

(1) the majority are there anyway. Better to force them all to stay? Or better to help those who want the help?

(2) Fewer overall dollars, but more dollars per student.

(3) competition would incentivize the public school to improve.

"It is all about what is best for Jim"

How does this help me, exactly? I'm not poor in an urban area. I'm already sending my kids to private school. You're saying I'm selfish, because I want to help those engaged parents?

You keep saying you don't want to subsidize private schools, but you're OK with subsidizing public schools, whish are worse and way more expensive?

Finally, it's what they want Paul. I say let them choose what's best for their kids. You'd deny them that choice, yet you claim you're more on their side than I am.

And teh fact that dumping massive amounts of money into lousy urban schools helps democrats win elections, that has nothing to do with the liberal stance on the issue, that's just a happy coincidence for the left.

But you're going to make the urban schools stronger by continuing to throw good money after bad.

Beyond stupid. And likely racist. Keep those darkies where they belong, don't let them into the suburbs. It's better for them, actually, to stay in downtown Hartford. Keep telling yourself that, Einstein.

Again, this is why I think you are a classless, friendless person.

a whole lot easier for you to insult me, than to make me wrong.

You said it’s selfish that i support school choice for poor people
in urban areas. I asked how that’s selfish, you ignored that obviously and insulted me.

You’re opposed to helping the few engaged parents in that situation who are doing the right thing and desperately want a better future for their kids. you compared educating poor children, to something as extravagant as a country club membership. but i’m the flawed one

Tell me more, please. I’d like to sign up for your low-IQ newsletter.
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Some people are proof that Trump merely acted as the latest conduit for America’s deep natural reserves of #^&#^&#^&#^&tiness.
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Democrat Pat Ryan defeated Republican Marc Molinaro in the special election in #NY19 (R+2 District). Every poll predicted a Republican win by 10-20%.

The women in this country are pissed! RoeVWade

A huge warning sign for Republicans.
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it was a shocker apparently...democrats almost never win in New York

THE HILL "Ryan will represent the district through January, replacing former Rep. Antonio Delgado (D-N.Y.), who was appointed lieutenant governor earlier this year. Ryan was also projected on Tuesday to win the Democratic nomination for the November election for New York’s newly drawn 18th Congressional District. "

Not in that district, silly troll
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Two Florida residents pleaded guilty in a case connected to a stolen diary that reportedly belonged to Ashley Biden, the president’s daughter, and that ended up in the hands of conservative group Project Veritas, portions of which were made public in the weeks before the end of the 2020 presidential campaign.


For 40k. Yep that’s conservatives for you the laptop hell how do you think the Steele dossiers started

The facts tell a different story. The document was written by Steele, a British MI6 agent, at the behest of Fusion GPS, which had been hired initially by conservative Republicans seeking the skinny on Trump. About the time the Republicans lost interest,

Even. Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy, also a member of the intelligence committee, said the dossier didn’t have any effect on the Russia investigation. “I actually don’t think it has any impact on the Russia probe,” Gowdy said on Feb. 4, 2018, on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

But again Truth isn’t what drives that party
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“that’s conservatives for you.”

2 people
who no one has ever heard of, speak for tens of millions of conservatives.

makes sense

and no registered democrat has ever done anything wrong. not once. nope.
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I don’t know them Coffee boys, they tell me they only brought coffee, many people say so…..
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So, is the GOP melting down right now? You decide.

Of course it’s all people nobody ever heard of….

First, the putative leader of the GOP is calling for the Senate GOP leader to be replaced, immediately.

The leader of the Senate GOP campaign arm, Rick Scott, is being openly accused of financial mismanagement by his peers.

There is an unprecedented and well-funded effort by Republicans to convince other Republicans not to vote Republican.

Liz Cheney will be campaigning with Democrats this fall.

When have we ever seen anything like this?

Today there were signs GOP candidates have been told to start distancing themselves from Trump, MAGA, abortion extremism (LOL!!!!).

GOP House candidate in swing districts scrubbing their sites of Trump endorsement.

The Republican nominee for Arizona Attorney General, 31-year-old AbrahamHamadeh, removed Trump's endorsement from his Twitter bio and background. The endorsement is also no longer on the homepage of his website either.

AZ Senate nominee running screaming from his extremist abortion positions. Another website scrub.

CO GOP state senator switching parties, saying the GOP had become an existential threat.

Jan 6th related investigations spreading.

GOP leaders in AZ, GA, MI, NV, PA, WI have been subpoenaed.

Meadows, Lindsay Graham, other MAGAs being called to testify.

Rudy may get indicted.

Democratic candidates are raising tons of money. R candidates aren't.

And then there is Trump's ongoing criminality, betrayal of the country.

It has become THE GOP news story every day, blocking out all efforts by Rs to reach voters.

And it's likely to get much worse in the weeks ahead.
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There’s a lot of polling on impact of abortion on midterms. But here’s a simple polling test that’s rarely wrong: watch how much money R’s put behind ads praising the ruling vs. how much Dems put attacking. You can’t lie in a campaign about how you spend money & It says it all.
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I don't know...seems like our SB leftists are the ones melting down with their daily rambling, incoherent, angry and bitter posts....oh sorry, I meant "facts"

based on your assessments....there might be no republicans left by November either dead from covid, arrested for treason or shamed into identifying as democrat :hihi:

you should be happier....

every leftist post here should begin with a preamble...here I'll write it for you all...

"The Universal Leftist Post Preamble"

"You are an angry, snarky person whose life has no meaning and you have no friends, you are clearly racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic and all the other phobics and you are so stupid and intellectually challenged and undereducated that you actually believe the conspiracy theory that a baby in the womb with a beating heart is ..."life"???, you are also most likely a traitor who hates babies once they ARE born and anyone else who doesn't look like you. Your(or is it You're) existence and opinions are a threat to "our" democracy and your obvious undying loyalty to that criminal trump is all that is wrong with our otherwise crime and violence free society especially in democrat cities where, if there is any crime and violence it's because of the guns "YOU" own. Your very existence is a threat to the planet because you have not sworn allegiance to climate change and like us, made virtue signaling your primary focus and means to improve the environment. You refuse to accept facts as we present them from our expert biased sources no matter how many times we cut and paste them without attribution, it's hard to believe that you actually got a job and your co-workers probably secretly hate you, silly troll, keep drinking your Kool Aid..... ps...if any of this is insulting, you forced us to insult you....you...you...you ultra-maga semi-fascist radicalized cult member......do you ever post anything meaningful or relevant and do you even fish ?"...

:laugha:

I vaguely recall … **every conservative ever** saying that warning of riots in response to legal law enforcement actions (even wrong ones) was entirely unacceptable.

Senator Graham says there will be riots in the streets if Trump is prosecuted.

Why would a US Senator say this? It's the classic threat of organized crime types against prosecutors. "Nice little ___ you've got there. Shame if anything happened to it." Republicans, who've done nothing meaningful, like impeach Trump, after 1-6, now openly condone violence?

Is threatening violence if things don't go their way the new normal for the GOP? Would it work for BLM or groups protesting anti-abortion prosecutions too? Can the GOP also do this if they don't like future election outcomes?

These are no longer just theoretical questions.

And the Trumplican preamble…..

pro-choice = baby killers
marriage equality = hate the family
accurate history = anti-white people

The same people clutching pearls over being called “semi-fascists” have themselves been calling democratic voters “socialists” and “communists” for decades without any concern on whether those labels were entirely fair or callous.
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they probably learned it from the democrats....:wave:

sounds like he was actually concerned that there would be riots...not necessarily encouraging it...but I'm sure you will spin it a certain way

"If they tried to prosecute President Trump for mishandling classified information after Hillary Clinton set up a server in her basement there literally will be riots in the street," he said. "I worry about the country." LG

weren't we told during the long summer of love that....."this is what democracy looks like"?

I'm sure the Muppet-In-Chief won't be too divisive on Thursday night :rolleyes:

Clinton was a govt employee w/clearance communicating with other people w/clearance. 5 documents. Not charged w/ violating the espionage act or obstruction. Fully cooperated-no need for a search warrant.

If you believe what she did was wrong, then Trump is a no-brainer.
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Jim are claiming you claiming never heard of Project Veritas

Their conservatives icons in the act of sleaze

It’s not if you know these people you like many other so called conservatives have no problems with people who think as you

Steal and pass around other people’s property selling it to the highest bidder .. then claiming it would have change the outcome of the election.. such honesty :kewl:

I’ll give credit to the Trump campaign they wouldn’t touch it with a 10 ft pole same with hunters laptop . Hence Rudy’s dirty hands all over itb

democrats would never stoop this low:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

7 more Republican leaders endorse Democrat Josh Shapiro for Pennsylvania governor, following news of GOP candidate Doug Mastriano wearing a Confederate military uniform

interesting

Trump Demands 2020 'Rightful Winner' Be Named as FBI Agent Leaves


and the big lie continues

By overturning Roe, the GOP lost all their one-issue voters who didn't really like what they stood for but are pro-life. Lost that whole base overnight instead of fundraising off an unfulfilled promise for another 40 years, and lit a fire under Dems.
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Ann Coulter just put out an article saying “Trump is done.” Laura Ingraham said it’s time to “move on” from Trump. Ben Shapiro said Republicans need to stop “talking about Trump.” The establishment is turning on him before his indictment. Rats scurrying off the sinking MAGAt ship.
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Heard the best explanation of Roe and the GOP

The GOP is like a dog who’s been chasing a car( roe) clueless on what to do next now they caught it..
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Google. “Recession”…..it’s not pretty out there. I think Brandon has a great shot at beating his lowest presidential approval rating of all time mark


“The stock market is plunging and the Fed is giving up on a ‘soft landing’ in favor of a ‘growth recession.’ Buckle up
“It’s a bit like dripping water torture,” KPMG chief economist Diane Swonk told Bloomberg. Meanwhile, LPL's Jeffrey Roach told Fortune that "the Fed is in a tough spot."

BY WILL DANIEL
August 31, 2022
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Scott warns us the democrats are in trouble you can take that to the bank. I wouldn’t bet your life on it, the recession was coming, or at least the impacts of two years of Covid no matter what party took control. In control Biden is governing, passing impactful bills and the other party is wondering what the fu*k they are going to do now that Trump is possibly now not the party leader. I guess all the concern reported by the GOP haven’t been briefed by you, get on it.

^^^^that's a crazy rant :kewl:

Sarah Palin loses special election for Alaska House seat

A proposed state constitutional amendment that could protect abortion rights in Michigan has hit another roadblock on its path to November's ballot. Wednesday, a four-person board deadlocked along partisan lines on whether to send the amendment along to voters this fall.


yep Republicans voted no! afraid to put the question on the ballot

once again they are afraid of the voter! they saw what happened in Kansas

Republicans Blame Ranked-Choice Voting for Sarah Palin Loss: 'A Scam'

classic republicans no respect for the voters

New Election System
In the 2020 General Election, voters approved an initiative to establish a Nonpartisan Pick One Primary Election system and a Ranked Choice Voting General Election system.

"Ranked-choice voting is a scam to rig elections," Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton tweeted on election night. "60 percent of Alaska voters voted for a Republican

tom should read up a bit more on how it works



only republicans would be afraid "Requiring a candidate to get more than 50 percent to be elected isn't a scam; it's sensible. Let's get ranked-choice voting everywhere."

Cotton is sort of right. However gets the most votes in an election should win.

Careful, you’ll get labeled a red hat wearing, MAGA sheep like the rest of us
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That how it works. you can’t win with less than 50% of the vote. If you have more than 2 people running for the same office

So in the end the person with the most votes win
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Conservatism is increasingly defined by denying election results:

See how republicans respond to Sara’s lost

and I love this one

Trump vows pardons, government apology to Capitol rioters if elected

But still won’t say he’s running in 2024
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No authoritarians on the right

Donald Trump called on Republican voters to back Geoff Diehl, his choice for governor in Massachusetts, in Tuesday's GOP primary, while promising the former state representative will "rule with an iron fist."
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