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Pete F. 11-07-2020 10:57 AM

Guess who’s got it along with eight or more other people in the White House and campaign

White House chief of staff Mark Meadows said last Sunday that the US is "not going to control" the coronavirus pandemic, as cases surge across the country and nearly 225,000 Americans have died from the virus.

"We are not going to control the pandemic. We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigation areas," Meadows told CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union."
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detbuch 11-07-2020 11:11 AM

The World Health Organization (WHO) in Europe on Thursday said it was seeing an "explosion" of coronavirus cases in the region and warned of a "tough time" ahead as mortality rates rose.

scottw 11-08-2020 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1204717)
The World Health Organization (WHO) in Europe on Thursday said it was seeing an "explosion" of coronavirus cases in the region and warned of a "tough time" ahead as mortality rates rose.

we should send biden immediately, he has a plan....then send him to that non-mask wearing conservative republican state of illinios....they are shattering records:shocked:


seems like we have more cases now...than we did in the spring when we were advised NOT to wear masks...could be wrong...just an observation

in RI we are currently double our daily cases compared to spring #'s with mask wearing....our mask mandate began in RI May 8th which was on the downside of the peak and when people were still resisting wearing masks...probably just the result of more testing right?

I still wear my mask when I'm out but I think the ridiculous overemphasis on masks(it makes you a good person virtue signaling) has led people to believe simply wearing a mask gives them immunity which clearly is not the case...

and...disposable masks and rubber gloves are the new cigarette butts

Pete F. 11-08-2020 07:40 AM

Don’t worry, the suburbs turn is coming

At a clinic in Corona, a working-class neighborhood in Queens, more than 68 percent of people tested positive for antibodies to the new coronavirus. At another clinic in Jackson Heights, Queens, that number was 56 percent. But at a clinic in Cobble Hill, a mostly white and wealthy neighborhood in Brooklyn, only 13 percent of people tested positive for antibodies.
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detbuch 11-08-2020 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204757)
Don’t worry, the suburbs turn is coming

At a clinic in Corona, a working-class neighborhood in Queens, more than 68 percent of people tested positive for antibodies to the new coronavirus. At another clinic in Jackson Heights, Queens, that number was 56 percent. But at a clinic in Cobble Hill, a mostly white and wealthy neighborhood in Brooklyn, only 13 percent of people tested positive for antibodies.
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Anti-bodies is the goal. That's what vaccines provide. It's called herd immunity.

Got Stripers 11-09-2020 07:45 AM

Hey I thought this virus was going away after the election, what happened to the conspiracy theory that this was a democratic hoax and death and infection rates were fabricated to hurt Trump.

scottw 11-09-2020 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1204848)
Hey I thought this virus was going away after the election, .

Apparently it has, at least at CNN. Sounds like they’ve suddenly removed their corona stats tracker as soon as Biden decided he won....
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Pete F. 11-09-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204889)
Apparently it has, at least at CNN. Sounds like they’ve suddenly removed their corona stats tracker as soon as Biden decided he won....
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CNN headlines

Analysis: Trump denies defeat. Biden launches pandemic plan

LIVE UPDATES This is who will sit on Biden's coronavirus board

Strategy: How Biden plans to change the US pandemic response

scottw 11-09-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204890)
CNN headlines

Analysis: Trump denies defeat. Biden launches pandemic plan

LIVE UPDATES This is who will sit on Biden's coronavirus board

Strategy: How Biden plans to change the US pandemic response

yes...everything regarding covid will be spun as positive propoganda for biden going forward....



be thankful for Operation Warp Speed:uhuh:

The Dad Fisherman 11-09-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204889)
Apparently it has, at least at CNN. Sounds like they’ve suddenly removed their corona stats tracker as soon as Biden decided he won....
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And Pfizer announced this morning that they had a vaccine that has proven 90% effective.
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scottw 11-09-2020 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1204893)
And Pfizer announced this morning that they had a vaccine that has proven 90% effective.
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is that the biden vaccine????:) or is that the trump vaccine that kamala won't take because trump....wait...they are the same vaccine...I bet she's happy to mandate it now

Jim in CT 11-09-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204897)
is that the biden vaccine????:) or is that the trump vaccine that kamala won't take because trump....wait...they are the same vaccine...I bet she's happy to mandate it now

all it took was trump
to lose for the vaccine to be developed.
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Pete F. 11-09-2020 11:40 AM

Pfizer head of vaccine development Dr. Kathrin Jansen told the NY Times: “We were never part of the Warp Speed ... We have never taken any money from the U.S. government, or from anyone.”

To make something clear here about Pfizer and Warp Speed: Pfizer had already sunk its own money into developing the vaccine before getting the July HHS contract. HHS simply bought up a quantity of production.

And from the Covid spreading administration that gets the good drugs:

Secretary Ben Carson attended the election night party at the White House and tested positive for COVID-19 this morning. His deputy chief of staff says he's "in good spirits & feels fortunate to have access to effective therapeutics which aid and markedly speed his recovery."

spence 11-09-2020 11:43 AM

I hope they can satisfactorily disinfect the Whitehouse come January.

Pete F. 11-09-2020 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204898)
all it took was trump
to lose for the vaccine to be developed.
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This does nothing but sow distrust in the vaccine, meaning fewer Republicans will take it and more will die. All because the president's feelings are hurt.

Jim in CT 11-09-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1204904)
This does nothing but sow distrust in the vaccine, meaning fewer Republicans will take it and more will die. All because the president's feelings are hurt.

Trump is celebrating it. what are you talking about?
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RIROCKHOUND 11-09-2020 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204908)
Trump is celebrating it. what are you talking about?
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I have been on calls all day w/ another at 1p.... :hidin:
Is he taking credit for it even though Pfizer specifically did not opt into 'Operation Warp Speed'

I hope it comes through, a long way to go for final testing and approval. Likely Q3 of next year before it is widely available. Hopefully sooner....

Jim in CT 11-09-2020 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1204909)
I have been on calls all day w/ another at 1p.... :hidin:
Is he taking credit for it even though Pfizer specifically did not opt into 'Operation Warp Speed'

I hope it comes through, a long way to go for final testing and approval. Likely Q3 of next year before it is widely available. Hopefully sooner....

i’m sure he is to some
extent. i was responding to paul’s
idiotic claim.
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scottw 11-09-2020 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1204909)

Pfizer specifically did not opt into 'Operation Warp Speed'

.

CNBC

Pfizer announced on July 22 that the U.S. agreed to buy 100 million doses of its vaccine for up to $1.95 billion. The agreement, part of the Trump administration’s vaccine program Operation Warp Speed, allows the U.S. to acquire an additional 500 million vaccine doses. Bourla said Monday the company is on track to produce up to 50 million vaccine doses in 2020, and up to 1.3 billion doses in 2021.
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spence 11-09-2020 01:40 PM

I think we can understand the difference between research and manufacturing.

scottw 11-09-2020 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1204915)
I think we can understand the difference between research and manufacturing.

I think we can figure out who is trying to spin
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RIROCKHOUND 11-09-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1204915)
I think we can understand the difference between research and manufacturing.

Correct.

Jim in CT 11-09-2020 01:53 PM

this great news needs to be politicized?
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PaulS 11-09-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1204915)
I think we can understand the difference between research and manufacturing.

Scott can't

wdmso 11-09-2020 02:05 PM

Ben Carson got COVID. Carson attended the election night party Must be more fake COVID reporting
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scottw 11-09-2020 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204925)
Ben Carson got COVID. Carson attended the election night party Must be more fake COVID reporting
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You can get it a lot of places
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Jim in CT 11-09-2020 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1204931)
You can get it a lot of places
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but not from going to an Antifa riot or a BLM riot.
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Jim in CT 11-09-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1204925)
Ben Carson got COVID. Carson attended the election night party Must be more fake COVID reporting
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has anyone ever said guy can’t get covid from going out to crowded places? no. so you’re responding to something that no one ever said.

what conservatives tend to say, is that it might be worth the risk
of covid to keep living our lives. that argument can be made.

if the liberal ideology guarantees better results, please explain why the numbers are obviously the worst in predominantly liberal
states?
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Pete F. 11-09-2020 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1204933)
has anyone ever said guy can’t get covid from going out to crowded places? no. so you’re responding to something that no one ever said.

what conservatives tend to say, is that it might be worth the risk
of covid to keep living our lives. that argument can be made.

if the liberal ideology guarantees better results, please explain why the numbers are obviously the worst in predominantly liberal
states?
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Hot spots: Counties with the highest number of recent cases per resident, last seven days


Childress, Texas
Norton, Kan.
Jones, Iowa
Toole, Mont.
Calhoun, Iowa
Eddy, N.D.
Walsh, N.D.
Cavalier, N.D.
Dewey, S.D.
Hodgeman, Kan.

scottw 11-09-2020 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1204923)
Scott can't

I’m pretty sure the main goal of warp speed was to help speed up the research and trials
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