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He introduced Assault Weapons Ban of 2018 in the U.S. House. yea ok he based his legislation on a FB poll |
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"I like taking guns away early," Trump said. "Take the guns first, go through due process second."
And the crowd REPUBLICANS AND THE NRA go crazy And for the 10000 thousand time we will be told what he ment to say |
If Trump can actually get some new restrictions on acquiring firearms my guess is that you will still be whining about something.
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Trump made the statement 2a guys flipped out Trumps backed away from statement #1 So if pointing out the flip flops from his mouth is just whining clearly you don't care what this man say's or what he does |
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Sounds like a conspiracy . . . Y'all really want to disinform us to create mass confusion and then sneak in and bring in a new world order, don't ya? |
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Of course the 2A people went berserk. If today, we can take away your second amendment rights without giving you the benefit of due process, maybe tomorrow someone can take away another constitutional right of yours, without due process, maybe freedom of speech? Or protection from cruel and unusual punishment? I don't like guns being in the hands of weird people. But I don't like the idea of ignoring the parts of the Constitution we don't happen to like at the moment, either. Neither should you. Because if we can ignore it when we feel like it, then it serves no purpose. |
Russian politician Alexander Torshin said his ties to the NRA provided him access to Donald Trump — and the opportunity to serve as a foreign election observer in the United States during the 2012 election.
These revelations come amid news that the FBI is investigating whether Torshin, the deputy governor of the Bank of Russia, illegally funneled money to the NRA to assist the Trump campaign in 2016, |
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The warnings, made by concerned people close to Cruz, came in phone calls to the Broward County Sheriff's Office, records show. At least five callers mentioned concern over his access to weapons, according to the documents. None of those warnings led to direct intervention. In February 2016, neighbors told police that they were worried he “planned to shoot up the school” after seeing alarming pictures on Instagram showing Cruz brandishing guns. About two months later, an unidentified caller told police that Cruz had been collecting guns and knives. The caller was “concerned (Cruz) will kill himself one day and believes he could be a school shooter in the making,” according to call details released by the Sheriff's My statement The NRA and 2nd supporters would have pitched a fit if they took his guns over instargram, or Internet posts yelling confiscation or FREEDOM of speech. .. they are now blaming everyone else . To insulate them from the laws they supported which gave assistance and legal standing for Cruz to have what he had .... law enforcement was toothless until he committed a crime ... And I was told UMMMMN NO they would not if they took Cruzs guns based on a callers concerns ... then RI passes a Red flag measure to head off possible shooters and the response was as suggestec |
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Well if they told him to change his imnd, I would be in agreement. Due process has to come before we strip constitutionally-guaranteed freedoms from US citizens. The feds can't take something away, and then we petition to get that freedom back. Due process must come first. The constitution could not be more clear. You disagree? |
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so whos rights gets priority those of a possible shooter or those of his potential victum's ?.. Be inconvenienced. In court to get your guns back due process Be inconvenienced because your dead no due process The possibility of abuse exists that's why we have courts .. reasonable people who have nothing to hide and operate with in the rules won't be effected . And I don't buy that the freedom to own a gun is absolute. Or with out restriction Or the fantasy this leads to taking people's guns .... it's just not based in facts |
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There is no shortage of tyrants in this state. Judges that ignore or make their own interpretations of the Constitution are the ones who are dangerous to our country. |
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MA is in the bottom third for unemployment, the second lowest firearm death rate of all states, ranked the best schools in the nation etc... etc... Keep this nonsense up and I'm not going to show you the amazingly tight corners on the giant picture frame I just made. |
...a bump stock is not a gun. No different then AR dosn't mean assault rifle.. >>>
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Just wait till some states ban ammunition because they're not guns LOL
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An ex post facto law (corrupted from Latin: ex postfacto, lit. 'out of the aftermath') is a law that retroactively changes the legal consequences (or status) of actions that were committed, or relationships that existed, before the enactment of the law.
Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 (with respect to federal laws) and Article 1, Section 10 (with respect to state laws). Property that was attained while legal and then banned and confiscated absolutely DOES violate rights. And if it ever goes to court before a judge that is not a liberal constitutional tyrant, then it would be overturned. The argument about modern firearms are not what the 2A was for is horsecrap, The British had what the people had, and when they wanted to disarm the people, the revolution began. You can believe whatever you want about what can be banned or should be banned and we are never going to agree apparently. I know what is right and what is wrong. Did a bunch of ranchers armed with AR-15's win a standoff with the feds? yes they did. If the country goes over the ledge to socialism, that is when you will finally realize you are left with Communism and wonder how it happened. |
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I didn’t say it did Banning something for future is one thing Banning it retroactively is another. States are allowed to put restrictions Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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this was on fox Tucker Carlson
“Imagine if Barack Obama had said that? ‘Just ignore due process and confiscating guns.’ Obama would have been denounced as a dictator,” Carlson said on Thursday. “Congress would be talking impeachment right now. Someone would be muttering about secession.” not sure if he is asking why this isn't happening or just for once see's how hypocritical the base is? Went to see the comments which are very telling and no where on the 1st page of comments was there a critical comment against Trump he was mentioned 1 time here is the comment What Fiasco. President Trump is battling the Democratic Communist Party, the Rhinos, the push towards a NWO, http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/...ke-guns-first/ I am sure they wont see an issue with this one as well ,,Trump praises Chinese president extending tenure 'for life' “He’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great,” Trump said, according to audio of excerpts of Trump’s remarks at a closed-door fundraiser in Florida “And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” Trump said to cheers and applause from supporters. this is the part that scares me^^^^ |
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We do need a good examination on how to protect rights and balance the need for some people not to have access to firearms (and removal if needed) due to disqualifying events (mental health/Drug Abuse/Criminal Records) and not limit those that are not disqualifying. The FL shooter Cruz wasn't failed by Due process? The students at MSD were failed by the lack of any ATTEMPT of ANY PROCESS by legal authorities at the local, state, and Federal level. Quote:
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You are exceptional at Cherry Picking you quotes to broad brush people. You may be even more effective than Spence. :rotf2: /QUOTE] And you are exceptional at refusing to see what you call cherry picked quotes as what they are ... Actual statements from real people who lead the narrative and sit in postions of power and represent those who have have elected them If you only look at quotes as only quotes I can see why you have a hard time seeing the picture they paint ... over time |
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