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You can keep your doctor that's republicans favorite Obama lie
Yet millions never lost their doctors true some did .... but now they play verbal gymnastics, when it comes to Trump lies they even have changed the definition of lie He has no equal in the lies department.. he is the undisputed champion |
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We're playing "verbal gymnasitics" when we claim that Obamacare fell short. Incredible. liberal=good, conservative=bad, always, zero exceptions. |
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falling short is just that falling short a lie is as you said ^^^ above So it's easy is Trump a liar or not it's not hard based on actual things he has said and fact checked However Trump and the Republicans have done an outstanding job attacking facts and the enemy of the people the press . Or any information that shows the in a negtive light funny way to .MAGA |
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I'm just hoping for some consistency, that's all. |
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Agreed, I don't think I said Obama lied. He was very, very wrong about what he said the impacts of Obamacare would be. He was also very, very wrong about the benefits of his stimulus (he said it would keep unemployment below 8%, instead it went over 10%). I don't think he intentionally lied. I just think he's wrong a lot. "So it's easy is Trump a liar or not it's not " You/re right, it's easy. Yes, Trump is a liar. That doesn't mean he lied about the wall, unless you are saying that Trump is incapable of telling the truth. Trump doesn't lie every time he moves his mouth. We don't know if he actually thought he could get Mexico to pay for the wall. How could you possibly know, that he didn't actually believe it when he said it? "However Trump and the Republicans have done an outstanding job attacking facts " I can easily go tit for tat with you, telling you all the times that liberals explicitly lied for political gain. And if honesty was so important, why did your side nominate someone who said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia or wherever? "enemy of the people the press " If the press is deliberately slanting reporting to serve a political agenda, I agree with Trump. They aren't a lethal, mortal enemy like ISIS, but they are an enemy. Capable of doing massive damage. The press, in my opinion, has betrayed the trust we give them, betrayed the constitutional protections they enjoy. And not just the liberal press, some at Fox are just as guilty. Almost none are honest. "Or any information that shows the in a negtive light " Not me. I can easily admit when he's being an azz. Sorry for being guilty of whaboutism again, but I posted video of Obama blaming Republicans for preventing him from doing immigration reform, when democrats controlled both chambers of Congress. But you are OK with that, because you don't like Republicans. It only bothers you when Republicans do the same thing. |
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If I choose not to punish one kid for hitting his brother, but I punish the other kid for hitting his brother back, then I'm guilty of hypocrisy and I deserve to be criticized for it. I am not pointing to Obama to excuse Trump's behavior, I cannot possibly fathom how you could think that. I point to it, because you and your fellow liberal ilk said nothing when Obama did some of these same exact things, but you go berserk when Trump does it. Let me go very slow for you. I am not pointing to Obama, to excuse Trump's behavior. I point to Obama, to show clearly that your side gave him a pass for doing some of the same exact things, for which you attack Trump. Is that going too fast for you? It's not me being juvenile. It's you not following a point that my 12 year-old would get. |
Nothing Obama did equals wht trump has done. Nothing.... :rtfm:
Zero scandals. Zero.......unless you count saluting a marine on air force 2 while holding a cup of coffee. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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he’s not anywhere near as gross as trump. but your side is still holding trump to very, very different standards than you held obama to. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device the us government gave weapons to mexican drug dealers. but that wasn’t a scandal, no sir. |
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admitting there’s hypocrisy, you lob insults. any chance you can ever try to support you insults? i asked nebe and pete multiple times why i’m a fascist, they won’t answer. i support what i say soence. when i call you a glaring, obvious, naked hypocrite, i point to very specific examples. your response is to say i’m delusional, with zero evidence. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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making fun of special olympians Obama Apologizes for Calling His Bad Bowling 'Like the Special Olympics' (in the context of a bad joke ) Donald Trump’s Worst Mocking Disabled Reporter Trump insisted, “I didn’t know what he looked like. I didn’t know he was disabled."Trump has denied that he meant to mock the reporter, Serge Kovaleski, who has arthrogryposis, a congenital condition affecting the joints. context used his name failing about attacking the article with a name some apology using the irs as a weapon against conservatives But the russian investigation is a witch hunt??/ us government gave weapons to mexican drug dealers. funny 2006- 2011 was only an issue with Obama ? unwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic of the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011[2][5] trampling on the rights of christians and catholics... mandating health-insurance policies should cover birth-control services for women, really that's your attack christians and catholics... holding trump to very, very different standards than you held obama to. thats :bs: clearly you hold Trump to very different standard then you held Obama.. your past posts and present are a clear window in to that world ...he’s not anywhere near as gross as trump.. does not equal objectivity let me be clear even a good economy isn't enough,, there is nothing good Trump could do besides resign from office that could make up for the damage he has inflicted on the Nation our world standing our institutions our environment and the office of the POTUS will take decades to get the trust back if ever the above is not imaginary its based on Trumps words and actions .. |
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multiple times for security which was denied. The fight lasted 13 hours and no help came. then the administration repeatedly blamed an american citizen for making a video. which of those points did i manufacture? why do you claim i said the russianinvestigation is a witch hunt? can you read? seriously, do you know how to read? i’ve said many times that there should be an investigation, and if he did anything wrong he should face it. is that going too fast for you? does that sound like i’m painting the investigation as a witch hunt? Oh, obama apologizes for making fun of special olympians, which to you, meansnit never happened? so a scandal isn’t a scandal if the person apologized? wdmso, that makes all kinds of sense on obamacare and christianity, you shouldnget some facts. the supreme court ruled that obamacare trampled on the religious beliefs of christians. these business owners were willing to provide birth control when there’s a legitimate health need ( many women have real health needs for the pill), they did not want to be forced to provide pills that are designed to be abortion-producing. the court, not me, said it was unconstitutional. what damage has trump done, which can only be fixed by resigning? please benspecific...sires he’s a morally bankrupt reptile, so was bill clinton. just because you really reallly dislike him? i really really disliked obama, but i gave him credit when it was due, and i counted the days. i didn’t surrender my sanity like you guys. i have no issue with the trump scandals you listed, though i don’t know why they are pertinent. i admit trump had many scandals. the point i was making, was a response to someone who said that obama had no scandals. clearly he did, and you cannot refute that by pointing to someone else’s scandals. you say it’s not a scandal if one apologizes. unreal. i listed obamas scandals to show his term was not scandal free, and you can’t help but go on an anti trump diatribe. you’re completely obsessed. two more years probably, hang in there. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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What does equal objectivity, is my well-established pattern of saying good and bad things about both Trump and Obama, and usually not always) supporting my statements with actual events and results. "clearly you hold Trump to very different standard then you held Obama.. " We would all just love to see you explain that a bit further. I am frequently critical of Trump, deeply critical. But I'm rational when I do it, that's the difference between us. You and your fellow world travelers here, you cannot handle criticism of Obama, and you cannot handle praise of Trump. It's literally more than you can process. |
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Finding praise in Trumps is like convincing yourself that even pedophiles deserve praise for anything seen as positive . not involving the original crime He is beyond salvation he already dug his hole with his own hands and lips and he’s got 2 more years of digging Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Since the election take every news story the Russian investigation all the guilty pleas the lies and even his tax returns stormy and replace Trump with Obama. In his 1st year in office ... I highly doubt your responses would even be what they are now.... but my response wouldn’t change Because it’s not about the man it never has been Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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trump is as irredeemable as a pedophile? seriously? wow. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Since you think it's wrong to praise Trump when he helps people, can I ask what you are doing with your extra take-home py thanks to his tax cuts? I hope you're not using it or enjoying it, because based on your own logic, that's evil money. Can we all assume you're burning it? I bought a camper with my extra take-home pay. My family spent 31 nights in that thing this year, and every one of them was magical. And it would likely not have happened if not for Trump and the GOP. I can be thankful for that, and still bash him for being the morally bankrupt reptile that he is. We COULD have had a nice guy with the same beliefs, but your side told everyone that McCain was a senile old racist, and that Romney was a heartless plutocrat who hates women. So please tell us, exactly when did the democrats decide they wanted a GOP candidate who had integrity? Because they were merciless with McCain and Romney. |
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The conservative opposition to Obama was nothing like this. Where were the riots? The right responded by getting right to work and forming the tea party. And it worked. No riots. There was no large scale right-wing equivalent to Occupy Wall Street or Black Lives Matter or Antifa. None. The entire media was absolutely in the tank for Obama except for one TV station, which 1% of the country watches on a good night, and liberals act like it's an Orwellian thing. One percent. |
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We talked about this a few times - Antifa has NOTHING at all to do with the Dems. but bc Neo Nazis praise Trump you try to come up with a Dem. equivalant. Let's not forget that studies have shown that Fox news watchers actually know less about news than people who don't watch any news at all. Also, their ees actually get on stage at his rallies and promote him. Pointing out the daily (hourly?) lies is not being in the tank for someone. Pointing out how the Repub. have changed on the evironment or foreigh policy or trade is not being in the tank for someone. Let's hear more but but Obama. Remember when if anyone said that about Bush the rightys panty's got all bunched up. |
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