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Nebe 02-10-2004 11:40 PM

I'ma big fan of Nader, but look at the mess he caused last election..If he wasnt in the running last election, Gore would have been the Prez and the world would be a much different place now... better or worse, who knows:huh:

nor-easter 02-11-2004 01:44 AM

I lived in Vermont from 86 till 2000. Dr. Dean was our choice for Lt. Gov. and when #^&#^&#^&#^& Snelling died Dr. Dean took over. He was elected and re-elected to I think like 6- 2 yr terms. He was a Good Governor for Vermont and would make a Good President of the U. S. I voted for him in this poll and I will vote for him in the primary and I hope I get to vote for him in the General election.
He is electable. He can beat GWB and if the powers that run the Democratic Party would give him the chance he would be ready today! Kerry has sucked the xxx of everyone in Washington to try to become President. Why, cause he seeks power. Dr. Dean wants to become President so we the people will have an honest and truthful hard worker in the Presidency to lead this country out of the trouble it is in.
Dr. Dean took care of the Gay Marrage situation in Vermont.
Dr. Dean gave the kids of Vermont the Health Care Program that they have today.
Look into History and you will see that most of our successful Presidents have been Governors. The Governors have to make the tough decisions and have to know how to stand on their own feet and do what is best for their State. Dr. Dean, Gov. Dean which ever, can do it cause he has done it!
I would hope you would think about this and search google for Deans web site and find out the answerrs to your questions and then come out and support him. Dr. Dean hits the nail into the oak when he tells the truth, "Only YOU can change America. Get out there and support me for President!"
We the people, the VOTERS, must stand up and take our country back from the politicans.
What has Kerry actually ever done for Massachusetts. I read the other day that in 12 years as Senator he has only filed like 8 bills and none of them have passed. He plays polotics with the rest of that Washington Bunch. Sorry, I digress.

Support Dr. Dean for President!

beachwalker 02-11-2004 06:54 AM

why does everyone think Kerry dishonest ?

Have never seen the dishonest part before. the rest are a bunch of wankers :)

InterPlanetaryAngler 02-11-2004 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by beachwalker
dude you have to born here.........
That can be changed. :bshake:

InterPlanetaryAngler 02-11-2004 09:30 AM

Haven't you watched the "X-Files," man?!

beachwalker 02-11-2004 09:39 AM

:)

mmm scully :)

RIROCKHOUND 02-11-2004 09:43 AM

What about species... she's much hotter than Scully, not that I didnt like scully.... but Species is a great movie... for one reason...





















And it aint Mike Madsen or Ben Kingsley....

beachwalker 02-11-2004 10:27 AM

oooh ya. that too :uhuh:

Slipknot 02-11-2004 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by beachwalker
why does everyone think Kerry dishonest ?

Have never seen the dishonest part before. the rest are a bunch of wankers :)

In my opinion, he is only out for himself and seems to try too hard to gain all groups acceptance no matter what it takes. How can someone be on both sides of issues? maybe he just changes his mind alot:confused: :laughs:

I would never vote for him, you think Clinton was bad?:laughs:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...9/134218.shtml
see who's in this picture


I hope Dean catches up but I don't know if I would vote for him either.

InterPlanetaryAngler 02-11-2004 11:13 AM

Cast your vote for me, Bruce. If I win I'll loan you my antigravity waders so you can skim along the surface of the Ditch.:cool:

InterPlanetaryAngler 02-11-2004 11:17 AM

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Originally posted by RIROCKHOUND
What about species... she's much hotter than Scully, not that I didnt like scully....
Are you nuts? At least Scully won't transmogrify into some freak lizard at the worst possible moment. Nah, I learned my lesson long time ago with her...don't close your eyes and don't let her be on top. :rolleyes:

HighTide 02-11-2004 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slipknot
In my opinion, he is only out for himself and seems to try too hard to gain all groups acceptance no matter what it takes. How can someone be on both sides of issues? maybe he just changes his mind alot:confused: :laughs:

I would never vote for him, you think Clinton was bad?:laughs:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...9/134218.shtml
see who's in this picture


I hope Dean catches up but I don't know if I would vote for him either.

I feel the same way, Slip. I don't think he changes his mind alot, but takes whatever side of an issue will make him more popular for the time being.

If you liked Bill Clinton, You'll love John Kerry.

BTW- The picture says it all

Nebe 02-11-2004 12:25 PM

That pic makes me like him even more:D:

Jimbo 02-11-2004 12:53 PM

OK, see where I get lost in this stuff and lose interest. I thought Kerry's original hype was that he was a VIetnam war vet who had put himself in jeopardy to save another soldier and the picture shows him in protest of the war? Or is this a case where he plays both sides of the issue as was mentioned earlier. Maybe it doesn't come down to the fact that he hasn't really done anything while in office, but has he done anything wrong?

beachwalker 02-11-2004 01:39 PM

I think he is straight up and discusses substantive issues without a lot of posturing.

STEVE IN MASS 02-11-2004 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Jimbo
but has he done anything wrong?
Yeah, just the small little fact that he promotes and votes for every bill that is designed to steal your and my money and give it to someone else......:af: :af: :af: :af:

chris L 02-11-2004 03:19 PM

hey I heard that Rush Limbaugh is going to run for President to show these guys how to campaign and win . Elmer J Fudd is going to be his running mate .

CustomMarineProducts 02-11-2004 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beachwalker
I think he is straight up and discusses substantive issues without a lot of posturing.
Hey guy, you gotta stop smoken that stuff.

CustomMarineProducts 02-11-2004 11:16 PM

Looks like the "Democrats are hippies" is winning!!
Hehehe if you like Clinton, you'll love Kelly, ain't that the truth.
Should be a Bush slogan!:rotf3:

KLMulder 02-12-2004 08:26 AM


johnwade 02-12-2004 01:30 PM

Well, was I wrong. I predicted that the Clintons would Whack Kerry in October-WRONG! Check out Drudgereport.com. They are doing it right now

beachwalker 02-12-2004 01:44 PM

All I can figure is a lot of the responses here are from republicans, etc.

Kerry voted FOR Iraq (not many didn't) if that means anything.

I don't understand how an Edwards, Clark or Dean supporter, who has seen their favorite candidate smoozing, posturing and mugging their way through, this doesn't get it ?

I ain't smoking anything Pete. at least not yet....... :)

i am working....:(

Someone give me a hard fact about why I shouldn't support Kerry.

I was between he and Dean and then Dean missed what he should have been talking about and kept up the negativity. Pushed a lot of us away.

That is why they have this parade. If you pay attention and don't get swept up in the fanfare you might be able to see these characters under pressure

STEVE IN MASS 02-12-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beachwalker

Someone give me a hard fact about why I shouldn't support Kerry.


Man, I hate repeating myself:

Quote:

just the small little fact that he promotes and votes for every bill that is designed to steal your and my money and give it to someone else......

beachwalker 02-12-2004 04:28 PM

name some

johnwade 02-12-2004 04:42 PM

Quote:

Someone give me a hard fact about why I shouldn't support Kerry.
He boinks interns.

beachwalker 02-12-2004 06:12 PM

:laughs: :laughs: :laughs:


that ain't so hard......:eek:

fishweewee 02-12-2004 06:17 PM

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/

http://chuckmuth.com/newsandviews/nv.cfm

beachwalker 02-12-2004 06:22 PM

thanks wee. interesting spin.

how much is fact ?

seriously. i am interested in hearing more

RIROCKHOUND 02-12-2004 06:27 PM

As someone who didnt live through Vietnam, I have to say, if he fought and risked his life, he has everyright to be against the war on coming home; Noone knows what he saw/had to do that made him change his colors, or maybe he did his job even though he was against the war all along...
The guy he rescued to recieve a medal was interviewed not long ago and it was a pretty good story....

'hound

CustomMarineProducts 02-12-2004 08:11 PM

Well for one thing Kerry voted for Iraq and now is trying to dump it on Bush. Really they all did. I remember when they sent my son off, they had a big hoopla at the state house and the govenor was in every picture to be taken. Now, you can't get him to admit he was there!! Politicians no back bones.
The one thing if nothing else about Bush, he stands on his hind legs. I may not agree with everything he does, but he seems to speak his mind with conviction and not with pollsters in mind.
If your gonna be the Prez. you have to stand up for what you belive is the right thing to do. Not flip flop with every poll that comes out.
Kerry seems to tell everyone just what they want to hear. You can't do that and be the leader of the most powerful nation in the world. People are not going to agree with you, and sometimes it is your job to do what has to be done regardless of the fall out. Things like send our children off to war. I don't think for one second that was an easy decision and I hate the thought of wishy washy Al Gore, or John Kerry being in charge when all this was going on.


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