From the ditch?

WHOAH..........................

There has to be more of a story here.

Got any pics?


I say spinning you say conventional. I say couch you say sofa.

In the long run it doesn't really matter what the heck you are throwing as long as you feel comfortable with it and it can do the job.

The 1209 spinning or conventional can throw from four to seven oz. maybe even more. It is a proven rod. It can also make 30# fish look silly.

Just to throw some fire on this debate a little more. You can dropback the jig with a spinning set up. Takes some getting used to, but it is possible.

Addendum:

I should've stated that nobody has landed a 50#er on a BUCKTAIL jig.

A consensus of guys determined that the Storm Wildeye is not actually a jig. It's a swimming lure.

PFF told me that you were buying stock in the big storm shads. He said you were converted...:D

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MAC,

Yep. I'm now a believer (have to be with T Orlando's guy landin' the 54#er on one, and watching PFF own success).

However, I'm not considering the Storm a jig. It's a lure, or a soft plug, or some damn thing. It's just NOT a JIG.

So how many are in ur bag an have u thrown it if it is in ur bag.

He has been carrying 1 or 2 around for close to a year:D Always refused to throw it. Personally I think Jim was using it when nobody was looking.:laughs:

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Oh, I've been carryin' them around, but not in the bag - they never made it out of the van. I really hate those damn things. Don't know what it is about them ( and most plastics for that matter). kinda like findin' out the girlfriend's got silicone.

Slip got right to the heart of my complaint about spinners. the line has to take a 90 degree turn. I can't help but think that I don't want a 90 degree turn in my line when Moby #^&#^&#^&#^& grabs the jig in 4 knots of current. That's the meat of the discussion.

Slip is no expert and JP never had a fifty on the end of his line?....and pigs fly when nobody is looking. :)

Salty I have to agree with yah, once you stick a big fish you need all the help you can get. Many prayers and you hope the fish comes up. Bottom huggers always break your line and yor hear too. I have had on a few fish that could do NOTHING with. Its mostly a run to the service road and try to get an angle on it to lift. I saw one fifty caught quite a few years ago on a live pogie (rember them?) By the time the guy landed it he was over two lights down. He came back with the fish and just collopsed.

JP- I know your feelings on the shad, thats why I specified no bucktail. Personally, between shads and sluggos, I have not thrown a bucktail in 2 years. Sometimes you just gotta give them what they want. And yes I have a great pic, just too much off a moron to know how to post.

shhh!!!!! the storm shads are a secret!!!!! :smash: :smash:

Me being a boat guy and with the little surf fishing I have done,
How is jigging from shore done in the canal ?

t.o

I've got pic posting issues myself.

Powers' maxim #1:

If the fish don't want an eelskin jig....., then they can go _ _ _ _
themselves. Fish over 50#s are are getting too damn finicky.

JP, you funny. Personally, gave up on skins. Been doing better with heavy sluggos.

it's the chunkers that are spoiling the bass :( the pluggers have suffered from it also.
Inshore fishing has been going downhill, getting very challenging lately.

Raider Ron, cast 4 oz canal special jig with pork rind out about 100 yards about 15 degrees towards the direction the current is coming from, then let enough line go to allow jig to go to the bottom, then pop jig up off bottom and repeat bouncing along the bottom where the bass lay in wait of an easy meal passing by. When they hit, set hook and reel in. EAsy to do from shore. If one spot is void of fish, move. But we have to walk, can't fish the canal from a boat, that would be cheating and definately does NOT count.

:wave: Hi Jim

Saltheart, may be JP has had a 50 on his line before no doubt, but I really am not an expert, I just have more experience then I used to , and I've learned alot from guys like JP, you , Carl, BigDave etc. :)

thanks for all these responses. it's really great to get some real advice from a site where i know all the people fish. i'm def. going to buy a disc. rod from mike as soon as i get some christmas money. it's tough being a kid. next Q. what do you guys jig with? A 9" sluggo on a 5 oz. jig sounds good, as does a similar sized bucktail with a long rind. also, how do you guys work these lures in the canal? rhody beaches are one thing, but the canal seems alien:confused:

t.o.

I've got enough plastic in the tackle room to build me a Cher. Got hooked on the red/black sluggos for a while.
Went back to skins when mr.pogie and Saltheart started making skin jigs like I'd dreamed about - invested heavily. Went back to the dark side.

No qestion....., Sluggos and shads are the cat's ass. I just got this thing stuck in my head that if/when the mount fish comes......
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I want it on a bucktail or a skin. I'm basically nuts!


Hi, Bruce :laughs:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Slipknot
[B]it's the chunkers that are spoiling the bass :( the pluggers have suffered from it also.
Inshore fishing has been going downhill, getting very challenging lately.

Raider Ron, cast 4 oz canal special jig with pork rind out about 100 yards about 15 degrees towards the direction the current is coming from, then let enough line go to allow jig to go to the bottom, then pop jig up off bottom and repeat bouncing along the bottom where the bass lay in wait of an easy meal passing by. When they hit, set hook and reel in. EAsy to do from shore. If one spot is void of fish, move. But we have to walk, can't fish the canal from a boat, that would be cheating and definately does NOT count.


Thanks for the info, sounds like I will have to try it next season! ;)
Ronnie

ps. next summer, come on my boat wire line jigging , set a hook in a cow and then tell me "Boat fish don't count"!!!
What a rush !!!:D

Sorry for the hijack, JP thats what makes the canal so great. Everyone has their own method to their madness. When not jigging, I've been known to chuck a few eels around too.

J Powers is in rare form tonight!! :) I agree , F the big lazy fish who won't swim to my jigs!! :)

I think most would agree skin jigs are the cats meow. I especially like curltails grubs cause they catch , they have very little windage when casts compared to say a shad body and you can fit 20 Grubs in one baggie in a jig bag. Sometimes though , especially late season , them shad bodies get big fish when nothing else works.

Slip , you've gotten good at at. You're probably the only guy around who doesn't consider you an expert!! :)

JP if you have enough plastic for two could you build me one also???:D Would make a great Christmas present!:laughs:

He an expert in my book. ;) He catch BIG fish.
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Mike,

I totally agree about the curl tails. I went out and bought a round head jigmold for 4, 5, 6 oz heads just for that reason!

Take those jigheads and attach one of GS's 8" grubs and hang on!!!

Smaller scale curl tail grubs used to be my ace in the hole back when I was tournament fishing for FW bass!!

I hear there is some guy they call "the phantom of the ditch".... i bet he knows something about jigging :hihi:

That guy's so dumb...... he still smokin'.

Still smoking!! You would think he would have learned his lesson ! Dumb as a tack!

A FEW?!?!

T. Yur killin me:smash:
Here's the pic you've been talkin about, I had another shot but just can't seem to find it.
JP i think you'd like the background on the other PIC;)

Happy Holidays guys.

O & Ahhhh for the record................Live eels all the way:laughs:

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ok

the storm shad fish...now i know what you guys are talking about...man i gotta read these threads closer

i got stranded in two airports yesterday for over 12 hours so i got alot of time to think these things over when i remembered something that i learned awhile back, just never thought of it until they told me my luggage was lost....

take your coventional rod spined so you can cast well, where the relaxed curve moves backward easier as you cast...take that rod, tie it a paint pail or some other sort of resistance and pull upward with force. as you pull no matter how well the rod is spined it will still twist

i've seen rods used for comm. cod jigging that actually twisted apart when the epoxy from the wraps wore down. as this twisting happens the guides are literally trying to get to the other side of the rod......which is where they are in the first place on a spinning rod!

Whaddyathink....does this theory hold water or am I jet lagged and a little nuts.


ronnie...sorry for the hijack.....here's a tip
----take the sluggos---or----even better some ledgerunner's...cut the head at a 90 degree angle...thread them up to the jig head and then glue them with either zap a gap or super glue..

cary some cheap super glue with you and you can fix the rubber as you are fishing

i have a whole bucket full of plastic, but i mostly carry the old school stuff......

Powers---I got some special stuff brewing in my basement for you!!!!!!!shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh