I've been out for two outings with new (to me) bail-less reel, about an hour or so each time. It's a muscle memory thing, you pick it up pretty quick.

I've had no feedback on 150 with the bail. My shop has sold a couple. I suppose it will be better for fishing live eels as the manual bail VS poses some problems when trying to put your line on the rollerafter letting the fish run. Also, the 150 is a tad small for surf fishing. VS is coming out with a 200 with bail shortly. This will be better suited for the surf and live eeling.

Is the bail flipping over on a VS? I don't recall mine doing that. If it did, I would have already got rid of mine and given a seriously negative review to VS. After I bought my first bailess VS, I sold all my Shimanos for that very reason.

My reel is a prototype, so it's possible it's different from yours, but I don't think so. If the bail is flipping over on a VS something is wrong, I'd give them a call and consider sending it back.

the only problem with my bail flipping over is the 30 pound power pro cutting my finger off. I don't find my reels bails flipping very often but I did make fun of my friend for his doing it a lot and then last night bam almost lost a finger. Seriously that stuff is dangerous!

I got a leather finger guard for fishing with braid. it helps a lot especially w/50 lb power pro:humpty:

oh thats a good idea I usually use sports tape

How much would a Bailed VS with a Baitrunner go for ??:buds:

Or better (or worse) the Z-Bass.... Gotta be close to $2000 for that :eek: :shocked: