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Fact is EEL'S work but THERE are those times when them plugs just WORK Also, Can you Cast a Sluggo or a EEL 100 YARDS or More because sometimes you need to..............You can fish the HABS in shallow water, Cast out reel in fast till line is tight then with rod held at 11 O' clock reel so slow you are bored Plug will stay on or just below surface, I never lose them in the shallows doing that...................Give it a try or do What Works for You. Go get em

You cant teach an old eel new tricks...:uhoh:

:doh: This thread was never meant as a debate of eels vs plugs. It was started as a question of what you use on the island in the fall as opposed to other times of the year. It is a matter of personal opinion, and should not be a source of argument. Sure we all have preferences of what works where/when based on our personal experiences and what we are confident in, but nothing is written in stone. I think some of us, myslef included at times, need to realize that none of our words are gospel. Every aspect of surf fishing from plugging to eeling to chunking comes with different levels of skill. The basic idea of each type of fishing is easy and basic, but the nuances of each is what separates the average fishermen from the consistantly successful ones. If you limit yourself to only one method of fishing, you are possibly losing out on some memorable experiences and catches. If there was one single way to to catch large every time, there would not be so many options available to us in the surf and the challenge many of us hold so dear would not exist.

Solid post
for a kid..
:D

Very well put, and so true:cputin:

How can you burn a whole Island? And what is the point of a site where you can't refer to the geographic location you intend to fish?

Yes, I need to know also.

So you think your going there to get away huh?

I'm gonna fish the mainland this weekend.
Should have it all to myself.:D

Think again ;)

Good post Tlap, it is unfortunate that in flaps earlier post to you he slid in that direct insult towrds me, anyone could pick that up...Whatever the case, you are right and I agree which is what I have been saying all along , go search..."the wise fisherman uses everything at his disposal"

Everybody be happy, it's September for Pete's sake :bgi:

[QUOTE=#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&]Good post Tlap, it is unfortunate that in flaps earlier post to you he slid in that direct insult towrds me, anyone could pick that up...QUOTE]

U should have seen what he posted before he changed it.
If i remember right it was something bout a slime bathing psychopathic girlie man...

Dude U gotta relax..

Fishing with guys who use eels and sluggos makes me a better plug fisherman. From the eel guys I've learned the fish are often there, even if I'm not getting them. I now fish spots harder and with more persistence, changing plugs more often. Likewise, they catch fish in close while most of my hits come out far. Means I'm passing over lots of fish. So I start out with shorter casts. Their offering smells better than mine, so I try scents. Once in a while I do better than them, so I feel like a huge success........ until the next time we fish.
Likewise the sluggo guys. The speed with which they retrieve goes against everything I ever thought you should do, but obviously works. So I try different retrieves, and plugs with more aggressive actions than I used to use. And try to build stuff that acts like a sluggo. I expect it to pay off. Their lures cast like %$%$%$%$ and smell even worse, knowing it gives me confidence my plugs aren't so bad. When I get it right, I'm a big shot. When I don't, I've got an excuse.
Works for me.

So... I digress.....the question....

what plugs would be in your bag on cutty this weekend????

im going to try night crawlers and meal worms on high low rigs .

Ross, I put alot of needles (all sizes), Spooks, swimmers and tins, slug-gos, teasers, Worm Potion
All plugs are 2 tone because of the bright moon. Eels and a couple of Eelbobs.

In my observation there are surfcasters that have alot invested in plugs along with memoriable experiences. It would be difficult to ask them to leave their plugs at home and only use eels or sluggos even if they knew that they produce more fish.

When for a number of years I did nothing but saltwater flyfish I ran the Osterville Anglers Club Educational series with my good friend Capt Ron Murphy, charterboat "Stray Cat" outa Hyannis. I put together a 8 week program of how to get started to advance techniques each year with many, many notable fishermen, scientists, professors etc. I was quite proud of the series over the number of years it ran. Later Gene Bourque and my self did the same for Redington Rod Company. Each year someone would invariably ask the question "How can I catch big bass consistently", I would answer in kind, well for starters you can put away all your fly rods and get a ten foot conventional rod and a big sled dog of an eel", "that's how to get big bass consistently" I know what a live eel can do. I still think getting to get a fish to take a plug is wayyyyy more rewarding.

There was no direct insult, you read to much into it I merely stated that eels, like EarthGirls, are easy. Minimal tackle, minimal care, and once the technique is picked, which is quickly done, the eel does the rest.

I know, I fished nothing but for years and caught many many big fish that way. Stifftip did a 1000 pounds one night back when on Monomoy with eels. But you know what I remember most about eel fishing? It was one night years back with Eric LaFleur, we were drifting eels in Barnstable Harbor at night and had been doing very well. Numbskull had given me a jointed eel he made, (looks just like a Tattoo eel, almost identical the difference being Numbskull made this one ten years ago.) I took that jointed eel plug out snapped it on and the fish totally disregarded the eels for the rest of the night and I croaked them on that plug while Eric just watched. That was my most memorable eel fishing experience.

If you were offended it was purely coincidental, I am merely stating fact and as you so admire the eel and it's fish catching abilities, so do I believe that plug fishing is the most rewarding and demanding of a fishermans knowledge.

If no fisher is present:

And an eel swims alone and a bass eats it does anyone hear it?


D.T. Susuki


some great stuff here :cheers: Thank you

Where? Whats great stuff? This thread is crap.. How bout some info, if your gonna reply to peoples threads. To much rambling, some members actually want answers