Hoe did this end up here, instead of in the political section where its easier to ignore it?
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The far left wants the Kerrys and Bidens of the world out of the way in order to promote faces that aren't re-treads. They need to run with the 'grass roots' and 'fresh faces' theme that Howie Dean has instituted. So they stabbed Ole' Joe in the throat also. It is a Ruthless business. Don't get me wrong, Biden's qualifications are on par with the other candidates, but in my opinion, fair or not, he doesn't have the slightest chance. |
Joe Biden is a super Ball
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And it's pretty much gone. If there was any residue it will be washed clean by Bush's surge plan really requiring 35-48K troops and not the 20K he said they were sending. Oh, you meant all the troops? Hahaha, silly Administration. -spence |
i don't think it is as bad as when Ross Perot said "you people" though..
2008 is far enough away for this to evaporate. |
Spence, you're alone on this one, every talk show I listen to, left and right, said he is done.
I agree with you that what he said was not that bad, but we're two white guys. There is no way the Dems will back him now and he is the most qualified Dem candidate. Strike another win for the Hillary machine, she signed a good contract with the man downstairs. |
all this politically correctness is way over done and nauseating !
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were not that articulate more like grandstanders with a preachy style of speaking imho and with Jessie Jackson you barely make out what he's saying... i think this is what Joe was "trying" to say.... although it didn't turn out that way ... and i think it's crazy to eliminate one's whole political career based upon a single sentence. Thats absurd. :hs: |
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I hereby Predict that Joe Biden will be our next president.
Thus far he's Still the Most presidential candidate i've seen. and with all the Blunders that Bush has done..... it's like comparing a mountain to a mole hill. |
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For one it's a long time till the election, and two Biden is perhaps one of the most qualified in the field. Regarding foreign policy, he's by my estimation clearly the leader of the pack. And this is going to be a huge qualifier come election time. -spence |
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And my wife who's nearly a member of the socialist party loves him :zup:
Biden is a pragmatist and a centrist which is what the country is looking for right about now. Hillary is the real target, she has all the money and most of the party power base bahind her. Yet a good portion of the country believe she isn't electable. Biden and Richardson are the two moderate dems with the perfect resumes to capture the middle. If Biden blows it my money is on Bill Richardson, but I'd like to see both. -spence |
How would have this played out if Bush had said what Biden said?
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But in all honesty, it would have just been par for the course. Biden gets special treatment because: 1) He does run his mouth 2) I don't think anybody really believes he is at all racist 3) He's a very smart and well respected person, so the assumption is that he's not going to leave himself open for this sort of time waster. Listen to how carefully Clinton's or Bush's words are...it's programatic and sterile. -spence |
Spence, like it or not Biden pigeon-holed Obama as a black man who is main stream. Thats racist (closeted) all day long. Just because he is a democrat (centrist) doesn't make it right. What he said certainly wasn't as bad as some other far more ignorant people have said, but regardless its all the same.
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You're taking his comment out of context...he was talking about black presidentail candidates with broad appeal.
Can you name very many before Obama? -spence |
No Spence, I understood the context of what he was saying and how he ment it. His intentions were not bad by any means, but it doesn't mean he isn't a closeted racist. What Biden said was lazy in manner and ill thought before he opened his yap. To me that says he doesn't care very deeply if at all about Obama. It should matter one way or the other about his skin color. Throw Biden a life preserver he needs it.
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When you look at Biden's track record...and he has a long and well documented track record...I don't think there's much of anything that indicates he's a racist person in any way. -spence |
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Thier is nothing knee-jerk with regard to my interpretation of what he said. You would have to know me to think my reaction to or subjective interpretation of what Biden said is slanted, and you don't other than here. What he said is textbook grouping in a backhanded backdoor manner. He is just more articulate than an uneducated racist.
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Again, you're taking a sinlgle statement that many would argue is being taken out of context.
You're saying his long track record on minority rights etc... isn't a better indicator of what he really believes? -spence |
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