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FishermanTim 06-27-2007 12:02 PM

Lack of staffing and enforcement of the laws seems to be one of the major issues. Maybe if they start by REALLY enforcing the laws, and confiscate ALL the gear related to the crime (meaning rods, reels tackle and even watercraft) and then have the items auctioned off, they could get additional funding with contributions made from the very cause they are fighting. It wouln't be a permanenty/long term solution, but would get things moving in the right direction.
Imaging a poacher loosing his gear, paying a fine and then trying to buy his gear back again? That would be one possible answer.

EarnedStripes44 06-27-2007 12:18 PM

Sometimes, late at night, I fish the Saugus River mouth. I see lots of other fishermen (predominantly southeast Asian) and I see them retain undersize fish all the time. 2 weeks ago, around a midnight high slack tide a blitz commenced, all schoolies. I saw 12 fish all <20 inch poached in less than 20 minutes. It is a bit unnerving consdering I have been catching consistently smaller fish this season. More to that, these fishermen, seem to keep anything they pull out of the water, dogfish, toadfish and eels. I guess when your fishing to eat, ethics are thrown to the wind, but- when you include the price of bait, gas money spent, tackle and cigarettes, it would be cheaper to buy farm raised striped bass or whole bluefish out of Demoula's.

fishpoopoo 06-27-2007 12:23 PM

DEPORT THEM ALL! :zup:

bttfish 06-27-2007 01:25 PM

I hate it when a few morons of my race decided to break the law and give us all a bad name. John R. is correct.. Asians are not the only offenders. I have confronted folks that kept and kill under size fishes. Of course, I usually just say "You know, that is too small. Is it worth all your fishing equipment and fines when the environment police catch you?" Then I walk away... It is not smart to confront anyone.. You do not know what they have in their boxes or under their clothes.. Guns and knives can be easily concealed. Trust me.. I am trained in that field.

Anyway, My brother and myself love fishing and we do learned and used lures that we brought from some of you. We do not keep undersize fish.. We simply snap a photo and let it go on its merry way...

We do keep a couple of Blues (3lbs) since it has no size limit.. Up till now, we have not caught any legal size Stripers.. all Schoolies so far.. and All released..

so! do not let a few morons create a hate for us asians.

:faga:

fishpoopoo 06-27-2007 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bttfish (Post 503726)
so! do not let a few morons create a hate for us asians.

:faga:


pffft. "a few morons?!!!!!!"

biggest load of bullshat.

they (slant eyed slope d*nks) have infested every bridge and rockpile between between goat island and watch hill. they ruin everything with their litter, excrement, and nasty smelling vittles.

it's an invasion. hell, we don't need DEP, we need the friggin INS to come in and enforce our poaching laws.

NIGHT STRIKES 06-27-2007 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bttfish (Post 503726)

so! do not let a few morons create a hate for us asians.

This is true bttfish,, I would never extend my feelings towards the many law-abiding citizens of any race...It upsets me more of the "fact" thats going on then the "culprits" doing it...

I don't know what exactly is going on around my particuliar area but I have a idea and it either involves a oversea's market or local restaurant..
Not too long ago one of our partyboats in the same area was snagged in a opertaion of poaching undersized "live" Tautog
by a group of certian individuals ...
The capt./owner of the boat we believe was also involved.. Fines were handed down after a undercover sting caught a bunch of them
but this boat is still in business today..

teaser 06-27-2007 02:01 PM

Here's my thoughts on poaching ...

1st offense = cut off a finger from each hand, and take all their gear.

2nd offense = cut off a hand, and take all their gear.

3rd offense = cut off a leg, take all their gear and their vehicle because now they can't drive anyway.

4th offense = SHOOT 'EM IN THE HEAD!

oh, and take all their gear.

bttfish 06-27-2007 02:14 PM

I agreed Bassturb. Maybe more than a few but not all..
Being a racist @ss isn't a way to get thru life.
Fortunately for most of us, we are not all ignorants and racist.

I think a big fine should be on the first offense.. Only way to teach anyone a lesson is to hit them where it hurts.. In the wallet.
Take their gears/tackles, big fine ($100.00/fish), suspend licenses.

fishpoopoo 06-27-2007 02:24 PM

model minority, my a$$.

we shouldn't give the yellow peril of this nation ONE INCH.

take BACK our country!

next thing you know they'll start heading down the srippely srope of meth peddring, plostitution and sravely, and irregar gambring operations. all this on top of poop and rittel coveled beaches!

we'll all be kowtowing to triad masters over the next decade, mark my word.

nip it in the bud (pun intended) before it gets worse!

ilovetwofish 06-27-2007 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bttfish (Post 503742)
I agreed Bassturb. Maybe more than a few but not all..
.Only way to teach anyone a lesson is to hit them where it hurts..
.

I was thinking more like in the jaw!

fishpoopoo 06-27-2007 02:29 PM

hit them berow the bert?

not gonna work on them rice richards.

Slipknot 06-27-2007 02:30 PM

Ben, :hs: take it easy with the name calling will ya, this is a friendly site. chill with the generalizations about your ancestors:faga:

education goes a long way, no need for salt water license , just education and enforcement for the ignorant.

good for you ilovetwofish

fishpoopoo 06-27-2007 02:33 PM

RMAO. :grins:

The Iceman 6 06-27-2007 02:41 PM

Btfish -

We'll said. I think any race could of been substituted here an the responses would of been exactly the same.

Ice

bttfish 06-27-2007 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 503750)
Ben, :hs: take it easy with the name calling will ya, this is a friendly site. chill with the generalizations about your ancestors:faga:

education goes a long way, no need for salt water license , just education and enforcement for the ignorant.

good for you ilovetwofish

Quite correct. EDUCATION! Bassturb.. Go get some.. It will clear your mind and make you are better person.. It may not be too late..
CYA! :hs:

fishpoopoo 06-27-2007 02:46 PM

:af:

CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY

:af:

Bass Nut 06-27-2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIGHT STRIKES (Post 503631)

But you know what two weeks ago I was back down this way and saw two more of this group back at it... We planned another trip there this weekend and I tell you - if I see it going on again - it might go down a little different this time....

Sounds like you should bring some small to medium fireworks with you this weekend....:rocketem: :rocketem:

striprman 06-27-2007 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassturbed (Post 503751)
RMAO. :grins:

:alien:

EarnedStripes44 06-27-2007 02:52 PM

Being racist takes up way too much energy. Go fishing.

Slipknot 06-27-2007 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bassturbed (Post 503756)


Everyone has ADD that is what is wrong

fishpoopoo 06-27-2007 02:59 PM

we need fewer scup poachers.

i say toss them and their 5-gallon buckets outta the country.

NIGHT STRIKES 06-27-2007 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bass Nut (Post 503757)
Sounds like you should bring some small to medium fireworks with you this weekend....:rocketem: :rocketem:

Yep - Teaser & BassTurbed :bl: - Will Put A Stop To It :hang:

fishpoopoo 06-27-2007 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bttfish (Post 503755)
... EDUCATION! Bassturb.. Go get some.. It will clear your mind and make you are better person...blahblahblah kumbaya

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JohnR 06-27-2007 04:15 PM

OK, I admit, "RMAO" was funny. Ben - personally, sometimes I'd like to see you back and take over your ancestral homeland :zup: but then we'd loose a fairly decent American (with a sordid sense of humor). Damn Communists...

For everyone else that doesn't know, "Bassturbed" is a several generation American of Asian descent. Though for some reason, that "wall" as part of the "Chinese Exclusion Act" did not net his ancestors :wavey:

Folks - when you see someone doing it, drop a dime to your respective law enforcement folks. If they act on 10% of the calls, word will get it out...

fishpoopoo 06-27-2007 04:51 PM

aw, you making me brush JohnL :laughs: :jester:

stars'nstripers 06-27-2007 08:25 PM

hey....... just to tell you all this thread had nothing to do with race i was just puting it out there if you see this same GUY poaching again.

fishpoopoo 06-27-2007 08:31 PM

gimme a break. poaching is genetic. :tooth:

Smokey14 06-28-2007 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 503623)
I think they should appoint "junior officers"
average joes like us, no pay, just a badge and some sort of violation ticket. as avid fisherman, we can routinely check during the course of our fishing and if a violation found, write a ticket.


Ya, I can imagine landing a fish and having some pecker head run over to measure my fish before I have a chance to release it.NO thanks there's to much room for looses to abuse that position.

Recreational poachers suck and they're hard to regulate but they're nothing compared to commercial bi-catch.

bttfish 06-28-2007 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 503789)
OK, I admit, "RMAO" was funny. Ben -

Folks - when you see someone doing it, drop a dime to your respective law enforcement folks. If they act on 10% of the calls, word will get it out...

Right on JR. It is sad to see it happened whether by one race or another. I would not be suprise if B's hate is not for only one race but all others and people of alternative choices too. For that we could use one less, sense of humor or not.. :rocketem:
We have Bill Cosby :bshake: :laugha:

Byaway Bass-turb! This country really belong to the American Indian, we are all imigrants... E-D-U-C-A-T-I-O-N! :rotflmao:

fishpoopoo 06-28-2007 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bttfish (Post 503938)
Right on JR. It is sad to see it happened whether by one race or another. I would not be suprise if B's hate is not for only one race but all others and people of alternative choices too. For that we could use one less, sense of humor or not.. :rocketem:
We have Bill Cosby :bshake: :laugha:

Byaway Bass-turb! This country really belong to the American Indian, we are all imigrants... E-D-U-C-A-T-I-O-N! :rotflmao:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f1...nglishmofo.jpg


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