THe beachmaster is the best plug ever made for salt water fishing. i've never used any that I haven't caught bass on. I had one that I caught hundreds of fish on. I lost it to the prop on a boat. As far as quality goes I find they always get better, and stronger.

Early on when they first started making plugs a group of fisherman realized how good they were. So when BM would finish a batch say 300 they would buy them all up. They didn't want anyone to know what great plugs they were. They over the years purchased thousands of plugs.

I'm not sure of what some of the above has been alluding to but FLAP and ZENO, please remove the parts regarding someone's personal life. Thanks,,,

John




Hello ALB.

Flapjaw used to have the same complaints about Hab. He was looking for freebees there too. Now he is in the Bigfish camp promoting his handouts, perhaps until that supply runs dry. A real piece work. If I remember correctly he kisses butt when face to face,so maybe he is just trying to get a rise again. Worst thing that ever happened is he talked so much he became a credible source to some. He has a lot of knowledge, just not as much as he thinks.

For the record Sea Dangles.....Flaptail didn't do or say anything for me because I gave him anything......I have had a few others mention my plugs....does that mean I "bought" them too? I let my work stand on its own merits......they are hard earned and not begged, bought or bribed for! I have no issue with you or Beachmaster so please leave me out of your winter rants!

If that was the case, that BM Bobby was "making them for the collectors", you'd think he'd be charging the shops that sell them collectors' wholesale prices.

Seems to me that the shops are selling them for about what they should be selling for--$20-$25. Even the highly prized Cowboys were going for less than $25 at the SWE booth at RIISA.

exactly :claps:
that is the quote of '07

this thread has gone downhill

sea dangles, flap pm'd me his reasons and I will not go into it but you and he both probably should have kept quiet, I know it's your opinion but he said he never asked for any plugs, it's just that he was promised plugs and I'll leave it at that.

yep it's winter

I'm going out on a limb here ... I predict so many people have squirreled away unfished beachmasters that there will still be plenty come the next ice age .. Only reason baseball cards are of great value is we trashed them all in are bike spokes years ago ... same thing . low blow on Larry and Flap .

Let me see if I got this right...
So because a 2 man operation can't meet the overwhelming demand (personal reasons aside) his work should get blasted because you can't get a few? I haven't seen any detiorioration in quality, perhaps I'm lucky . There are much more "pretty" plugs available these days without paint splatters, dings and dents. Go for it.

I think Beachmaster is top of the game ..

BM makes excellent plugs, always has, and I've caught more quality fish over the last twenty years on his plugs than any other brand (never had access to Musso/Pichney wood), BUT anyone who claims BM are plugs are "consistent" please tell me which of the following is a BM medium danny.

Maybe this will help.

or this?

ummm ... one old bm (blind) ... one new bm (eyes),,,, nice gizzzmo .

A tenth of an inch difference in a 6" plug has MAJOR effects on the plug's action. Both catch fish, but in my hands the green shape is a much better plug than the pogie shape. I have found similar discrepancies in cowboys, darters and large dannys. I think Bobby did more to keep wooden plugs alive than anyone other than Gibbs, and BM plugs have always had a lot going for them, but consistency is NOT one of them.

I apologize for my unintentional low blow to Bigfish. This was not meant to discredit his product. I am sorry.

No harm done Chis! Hey! How bout' dem Pats?:kewl:

Michael! I`m wearing your underwear!

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About 5 or 6 years ago I traded a jointed Habs, from before John was selling (circa 91, 92) for a very large jointed Beachmaster. It has never been fished or even out o my basement.
What's it worth today?

This week, or last week? Saw some a month ago for about $80.

If it's this one
It's at over $150 now.
That's what I call an expensive BM:fishslap:

It depends on if the GOTTA HAVE IT crowd bid. Could be worth 40 to 50 bux may go for over a "C" note...

Anyone who spends crazy money on these for "Custom masterpieces" needs there head examined.
They might be proven fish catchers but in my eyes the quality is outright Junk.:yak5:
This plug was swapped to me and apon arrival I demanded My plug Back.
When I since sold this darter on ebay I recieved the only negative feedback I have. The buyer thought it was a joke as whell.
I had to refund the buyers money and I'm Still left with negative feedback.

Crooked beak. crooked eyes, tailwrap loose as my first attempts. and the finish, newbie swap material at best.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...tems=25&page=3
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rather than knocking bm, if you don't like them don't buy them.

I fish them they work and I have a lot of confidence in them. I see alot of stuff on this thread that is just flat out bs. Plugs change over time dimensions are altered for various reasons. The bottom line is that beachmaster is one of the premier custom plug makers out there.

It i sfunny because you see threads like this where people bash him and then you see threads where people say that other plug makers are better than BM and the same people who thrash him in this thread defend him in the others. Very Interesting!!!

Anyone want to give me a few BMs cause I dont have one :)

Does BM make any pencils (canal specials) that are not considered collectible as I would not mind getting my hands on one to use in the canal.

One thing I really take away from this thread is how small the penetration of Beachmaster plugs into the market must be. It almost seems as they are viewed as collectibles more then the tools used to catch a fish they are. Surely enough people own them to know that's anything but the truth?

A dent, ding, or tiny paint run means NOTHING. Why aren't plugs with small imperfections culled out? Because it's got nothing to do with catching fish. That's why Beachmasters exist. They weren't built as trade bait, collectables, or for any other goal. Maybe it's the rock fisherman in me but those little imperfections just mean absolutely nothing. Do they have any importantance after a month of fishing where rocks, bluefish, and other hazards are the rule?

Were Pichney's perfect? I've got a bunch I fish and they're not. One's I haven't fished almost always have dents, dings and paint runs.

It's too bad I don't have my camera here or I'd take a pic of my now 5 year old 1.5 ounce Hab's white needle. Cloudy eyes aged by time and salt, half the paint gone from rocks, bass, blues and hooks being turned back against itself, the tail loop almost bashed flat from high speed encounters with rocks, and rust stains from decaying hooks and living a life in an unwashed plug bag. And still catching fish as it was made to do.

A real striper plug. Like a Beachmaster. I had a herring Beachmaster Danny like that too, but an ill fated night and some bad Power Pro caused us to part ways. Another one is slowly reaching that veteran status though.

The shop prices havent changed much from 6-7 years ago when I first started picking them up. Dannys were $17 and the A-40's were $20 back then

:claps::claps::claps:

I agree with Pete.....intended to hit the water once they swim its time to give them a beating! I like to make the plugs look as good as I can....take alot of pride in the work.....but at the end of the day they are intended to be tortured, scratched, banged up and tooth marked! I don't know which I like better.....brand new out of the package or after a seasons worth of torment! Once the plug begins to aquire the scars of the season they begin to act like a kind of scrap book of your season!! If you collect plugs....as I do....thats great! I collect a few here and there as a way to keep in touch with the history and heritage of surf fishing.....I don't collect them as a point of value or with a collectible mentality! To each his own......but they are made to be fished!:btu:

PS-was lucky enough to buy 2 BM Cowboys at RISSA this past spring from SWE....$23.00 each! Worth it!

Beat them up!!