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ProfessorM 12-31-2007 10:04 PM

Look him up. What a savage. Make #^&#^&#^&#^& Butkas look like a girl scout.

chief10 12-31-2007 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorM (Post 551337)
Look him up. What a savage. Make #^&#^&#^&#^& Butkas look like a girl scout.

he was the guy who bit someone's ear off..right.

ProfessorM 12-31-2007 10:44 PM

Just a finger that was jammed into his face mask:hee: Mike Tyson is th ear biter

Canalman 01-01-2008 11:57 PM

Well, George I messed with the weighting and I was able to remove 2 ounces of lead and after some tweaking I have what I now believe may be a killer in deep water. Hard to tell how deep she goes but I'd venture to guess at least 10 feet. It's a real thumper, but the wiggle is relativley tight. I had to make special belly weights to get the right ammount of weight in the right places.

It now floats, but sits mostly submerged, :cheers:

130 days (or so) 'til I can try it! :yak4:

numbskull 01-03-2008 08:33 PM

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Still not quite right. Soft maple, no weight, 2.5oz unrigged (.3oz more than they should weigh) float deep, think they'll swim OK.

Tagger 01-03-2008 08:46 PM

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maybe just pic ... one I have looks longer and slimmer . Pichney

Tagger 01-03-2008 08:53 PM

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Are yours Jr.'s ?

numbskull 01-03-2008 08:55 PM

Yup....Jr's. Hey, Eddy, your white one got a bigger chin hook? Interesting. Somebody who knew plugs owned that one (check out the eye). Is it weighted or not? (For Christ's sake don't cut it if you can't tell).

Tagger 01-03-2008 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 552259)
Yup....Jr's. Hey, Eddy, your white one got a bigger chin hook? Interesting. Somebody who knew plugs owned that one (check out the eye). Is it weighted or not?

weighs 2.6... weighted ? not sure there's only one way for me to find that out .. :eek5:

numbskull 01-03-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Tagger (Post 552262)
weighs 2.6... weighted ? not sure there's only one way for me to find that out .. :eek5:

On a Pichney you can see the belly weight hole if it is in there, if not yours is probably maple. 2.5 -2.6 rigged is what the pine ones weigh as well. Not sure why mine are too heavy. Too much sealer, epoxy, too thick a lip? To top it off, my weighted pine ones are too light (2oz unrigged)...go figure.

Tagger 01-03-2008 09:18 PM

no visible belly weight .. yes its a Pichney .. Funny,, the hooks bouncing off the wood ,,the sound is very resonant.. sounds like hard wood . Maybe your picking up weight soaking in that crude oil .. My cpes is light and wispy ..

Canalman 01-04-2008 09:40 AM

Can you ALWAYS see the weights in a Pichney (new to studying the master)... I borrowed some Pichney large Dannys from Charley Soares and you can't see a belly weight to save your life----I know they're in there though.... I just know it! :laughs:

-Dave

ProfessorM 01-04-2008 09:57 AM

I'd say very visible, didn't try to hide them in the ones I have seen. I'd say it is a heavier wood if no visible signs of belly weight. Like to get the calipers on one of those danny's Dave:hee: George I bet those Jr's will be fine. Nice job.

numbskull 01-04-2008 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Canalman (Post 552334)
Can you ALWAYS see the weights in a Pichney (new to studying the master)... I borrowed some Pichney large Dannys from Charley Soares and you can't see a belly weight to save your life----I know they're in there though.... I just know it! :laughs:

-Dave

I haven't seen enough unfished ones to be sure. In the few I have the weight hole is readily evident. If you are looking to know how much weight in a large Danny, I have one that I'll probably xray next week.

Canalman 01-04-2008 02:21 PM

Yes I'd like to know that. One of them was still sealed in the original bag, I refused to open it but Charley insisted. Still had the masters thumb print on the lip!

I can't imagine a danny swimming properly w/o weight but my last name is Anderson not Pichney

Backbeach Jake 01-04-2008 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by numbskull (Post 552390)
I haven't seen enough unfished ones to be sure. In the few I have the weight hole is readily evident. If you are looking to know how much weight in a large Danny, I have one that I'll probably xray next week.

Buddy!

metallip 01-05-2008 01:02 PM

conrads
 
all conrads had lead in them 8 to 10 grams even the maples.a 40 lip just wont work maples were made for super fast tides and wont swim right just anywere .stick with pine or ayc .hope i was some help

Slipknot 01-05-2008 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by metallip (Post 552643)
all conrads had lead in them 8 to 10 grams even the maples.a 40 lip just wont work maples were made for super fast tides and wont swim right just anywere .stick with pine or ayc .hope i was some help

:btu: Thanks
Yes that was some help.

Tagger 01-05-2008 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by metallip (Post 552643)
all conrads had lead in them 8 to 10 grams even the maples.a 40 lip just wont work maples were made for super fast tides and wont swim right just anywere .stick with pine or ayc .hope i was some help

wow .. tip of the day ..

Backbeach Jake 01-05-2008 02:11 PM

Thank you mucho

NIB 01-13-2008 06:36 PM

Nice thread..

NIB 01-14-2008 05:40 AM

I'm gonna try toying with the body shape a little...

NIB 01-14-2008 05:41 AM

I have found with the conrads U have to make the lip.It has a pretty steep face..It's not hard to make a few.
I rough em out with snips an clean em up on the belt sander.
Play with the length of the lower portion of the lip.I made a jr that went 2.7 oz
The lower part of the lip was slightly longer.. I thru it out in a 1 kt current an I could barely bring it back.It had a real wide wobble bam bam bam back an forth.I couldn't even pop it out of the water.I thought about giving it a big shot of lead in the pooper but that would take away from the depth,I thought..
I took it home an ground down the lenght of the lip some an it works nice an tight...
Not sure about the depth.Maybe 5 ft.I think the depths obtained on some wooden lures is slightly over rated...

ProfessorM 01-15-2008 11:44 AM

You mean like these.
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripert...ad.php?t=45686

I made the big ones too. Thanks for the info Tony. I will put it to good use. I am making some Bluestreak A-40 type lips tonite as they are different than the A-40 lips available right now, not a lot but different.

Question for you. How much lead did you put in the belly of the one you made? A big chunk up past the thru wire?

NIB 01-15-2008 03:45 PM

No, If I go thru the wire I pour it in little blasts so it don't go everywhere.
I don't remember how much lead.A good sized chunk.I use whats around an beat it to shape.I do remember it came out heavier than I originally wanted.I messed up the first coat of epoxy an had to go 2 coats which also made it heavier.But it was ok.
Nice lips..


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