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Some posts I just have fun with, others I take serious, but I have helped people...The problem is they dont listen and continue to ask the same thing over and over and over....looking for a holy grail that cannot be found without personal determination and old hard work. Some questions are asked over and over in ways just to get the answer they are looking for to justify whatever is is there looking for... |
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I guess your right, it was stupid:bsod: |
jesus christ the dude sweat between F18 and #^^^^^^& is really getting disgusting. :puke:
so people should learn on their own, thats what you're saying? here's a couple of your quotes from earlier in the yr... "Anyone who wants the inside scoop on any fall hotspot in rhody can send me a Pm. " Do you have to be carefull who you tell what? yes to a point..but more than a few things happened this year that puts things in perspective..you all know what they are...life is to short..I want to see people succed..I do not have a son or anyone else to pass along what I have learned in the surf to...I also realize that the reason most wont tell you is that they want to remain "on top" I was there at one point also, I know, its not that giving up the spot in and of itself is the problem...the truth is the fear that someone elses eel will in that water will land bigger and better than you...it happens, its competition all the way....there is a point to the crowd factor but still, when someone asks me nicely now I tell them, want to se the catch a nice fish...it comes with age I guess, the loss of friends, the maturity to realize its only a fish and yes to be honest a change I have made from surf to boat, I learned alot in the surf, if I can help a young guy who has the stamina and will power to stomp the suds all night...I dont mind pointing them in the right direction...\ get your story straight... |
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What the internet is good for I guess is the closeness you guys have developed, its like a big boys club, trips together friendships etc..a community of like minded people who have struck up long and lasting meaningfull friendships...Other than that as for the advice part, I am not so sure it works because of the overwhelming difference of opinions.As I have said, I certainly have mine.
I skirt around the edges, never wanting to be to close, but I have a made a couple of friends online from this site which I am thankfull for..It was never about learning anything for me...And I am very funny when it comes to who I will fish or socialize with, just the way I am...Every gets something different from things...I enjoy coming on here for the lighthearted stuff more than the serious stuff.. |
The message boards are good for sounding ideas or for when a person want to know how someone else did with a certain lure or a particular technique - a well-answered question can shorten the learning curve. I've heard over on the big message board that the message board is the best resource, the best learning tool short of experience. That's not so true - if it was, I would not have sold so many copies of Zeno's book.
My wife likes to watch home improvement shows and she's been watching for years, but she still can't hang a set of blinds. I'm of the opinion that the internet and the message board medium are quite similar to television: while there is a lot of good information, it lacks unity and coherence and the learning method is highly passive. The message board and the give and take associated with asking questions is a wonderful and useful tool, but it is not without shortcomings. |
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Oh and I repeat that offer....any and all Surf spots that I fished can be obtained by sending me a PM And I will glady direct you to them...The private ones and all ! I acually have one that is awesome during the last week in may and would like nothing better than to put a crowd there, you can take what you learn here and put it to use in a prime spot |
I learned from fishing with my father and grandfather. I certainly didn't learn to be a "sharpie", but I learned enough to go out and become addicted to fishing and have a lot of fun. I also learned by going into the local B&T's when I was old enough to drive myself around. When I joined this site, I was amazed at the knowledge a lot of the people here had, and I lurked and paid attention. I took information and used some of it and disregarded a lot of it. What I have learned most here is that a lot of people will be very helpful and gladly share things...especially if you contribute to the community here. I also learned that most people have opinions about what gear to use and what bait/lures to use. And, we all know what opinions are like. The best advice that I have picked up here though is to just go out and fish as much as you can. The internet is great and has tons of information, but there is no substitute for being out there experiencing it.
I understand people asking questions, but it's too often that someone signs up here and then starts threads about every aspect of striper fishing "what, when, where, why and how" under the sun. The search feature here will probably give most people enough information to keep them busy until the spring migration. Too many people want instant gratification and don't want to do the research or work themselves. Maybe John R could set up the site so that new members could only start a thread if they had a certain # of posts under their belt? That way, they could really become familiar with the site and could contribute to threads started by other members. |
To me, the problem isn’t the asking of questions, its that a lot of people want there to be only one answer to their question and they want it to be easy and something that they don’t have to think about and experiment with.
Example: What’s the best lure for stripers? They want someone to tell them what it is and how to fish it and they want that to work. They don’t want to hear that it depends on conditions, structure, current, etc. They don’t want to accept that it’s an ever changing thing even in a given spot and that they’re going to have to spend tons time and experience lots of failure in order to figure it out. Questions and opinions (stress that opinions, not facts) offered in response to questions are great if they are taken, thought about, applied, evaluated, tweaked, applied, evaluated, etc. IMHO the problem isn’t people asking questions, its people wanting it to be easy. Its not, and that has to be accepted and enjoyed or you should just pick something else to do with your time. |
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Maybe some of the newbs are trying to fit in.
Why criticize? The whole purpose of these boards is to post BS. Get you through the winter. No need to try and make anyone feel like they are an idiot if they ask a question you may think is stupid. |
All Barts investigative work shows is that I do infact help people the best I can...
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on another note, this is getting ridiculous. the people that bitch about the internet are the ones who profit the most from it. and the people saying that this site is going downhill are the same ones that are contributing to the downfall. i personally love this site and i think John does a great job. it's the self proclaimed sharpies/internet heroes that are bringing it down IMHO |
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someone who wants to answer it is more than welcome to.... and the people that come here for instant gratification you can simply point them to the search feature..... and if they don't want to bother with that....once again nobody's twisting anybodies arm to answer their question. and you can't realistically run a board where you won't let people ask questions....nobody will stick around a board like that. |
If everything is cut and dry then there will be nothing to discuss and bitch about. I think a lot of the guys who"fished all their lives" won't admit it but they learn chit when all the new-bees ask and remind them of this and that. It seems like you wanna communicate and interact so much that it bugs you that its same questions that come up and you can't make them see it your way, hell i like putting in my .02 just as much as anyone else. If your sitting at your favorite tackle shop and some knew-bee asks an old or dumb question let some else answer.
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Bottom line....
If you don't like it, don't read it.:thanks: |
:rotflmao:Hang in there, Bill, winter's petering out and the cabin fever's going to start disapating. :cputin::lossinit:
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:bl::bl: I should be working with you soon:cputin: well at least we have some chatter |
ok so what is your point. that was like my first post here 4 yrs ago.
and if anyone would like to read a nice piece on how to ruin your life by fishing check out #^^^^^^&s article on the SWE site. :rollem: |
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Its down in the articles section |
hep me hep me hep me . Im on fire . hep me hep me
I only say stupid things never ask too many questions smart or stupid . Im not stupid Im with stupid . now back to saturday night . how many beers did I have ? |
So what is better mono or braid? :faga: :rumble:
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....This is what PM's are for, Please
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we dont give info for freee . thats fity sent thank you |
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