you must be a bait guy:)

I know. I just bought this because I had to have it....

I think you got a good point there sandman. I wouldn't blame SWE if they jacked up the prices on beachmasters or other "hot" plugs, like you have noted, that's just good business. I agree that it would be a shame if the price of plugs went way up across the board, but that would only happen if we let it. everyone complains about the price of a van staal, but a lot of guys have one ;)

No more plugs for Max.:doh:

No harm done I think Sandman! :btu:

I will say, what if a business like SWE instead of selling BM Cowboys for $23.00 like they did last year at RISAA bumped the price on the same plug to $35.00.......do you think that would help in keeping the flippers at bay? Or would the price just be that much higher? I think the latter!

Tongue was firmly in cheak Larry

For me, it's all about confidence when I'm plug fishing (which I do 90% of the time). I don't like spending an arm and a leg for a nice plug, but I do it because there are certain plugs that I know I will catch with. Hab's Needles are one of those plugs that I always felt good about using. I think if you have confidence, you are more likely to work the plug correctly and not rush your retrieve. I figure that a $1,000 rod/reel setup looks great and will help you land the fish, but you still have to have something that catches them. For me, I use plugs that I have confidence in. I still use plastic and rubber, but I always feel that I'll do better with certain wooden plugs. And if you're patient and look around, you can still pick some up for reasonable prices (especially with some of the sponsors here).

I got that Max....so was mine!:wavey: You wood chucker you!:btu:

I catch such few big fish that I never lose my plugs so I don't mind paying an arm and a leg. As long as I tie good knots and don't cast off the plug, I can keep the same plug on all year. :rotf2:

I don't think its necessarily supply and demand setting the price on the secondary market. Its almost like a bubble where people see what plugs go for and then thats now the price. I've seen brand new plugs go for $x online when their $10 cheaper in B&Ts right in the same area the person is buying them is from. I'd rather have the builder make the $ rather than someone who is taking advantage of someone else b/c they know where to find the plugs.

What's a plug?

:hidin:

I'll stick with snag hooks...Only went thru 2 last year too...:hihi:

Mr Sandman, you are good to go over here.

No harm in what you stated, and it is a problem with the SLEAZE-Bay epidemic. Not trying to poo-poo capitalism, but it's outrageous the prices that are being shelled out ova there. The worst part of that entire equation is that your are suggesting that in order to take advantage of the business model fully, our custom builders/B&T's should up their prices??? And who could blame them, right?

*There should be some sort of ID system/pricing structure in place that overprices the plugs for sleaze-bayers and fairly prices the plugs for surfcasters, those of us who are going to beat the sheeet outa the wood landing fish all season and will need to purchase more of the same for the next year.*

But the other side of the supply and demand dynamic is, $23.00-$25.00 for most surfcasters is the top end. i LOVE custom wood just as much as the next surfrat, but my wallet can only stand so much, especially since i'll have to have two or three colors of each style. i've been buying wood for two seasons, now, and i've yet to own a HAB'S needle, any of Tatoo's fine work, any of BigFish's killer dillers, any bottle plugs, no squidders, no jointed anythings, and not nearly enuff of the styles and makers that i have been able to squeeze into the atrificials budget.

the whole thang has me re-thinking ever going from chunking in the first place two years ago, SERIOUSLY!!! and now that i've been successful with eeeeeeeeeels and sluggos it makes me seriously consider riding out this current economic wave ~yet, how can we NOT support the amazing craftsmanship and the commitment to excellence at a resaonable price that our custom builders are dedicated to providing year in and year out?

Tough call, and YES the Sleaze-bay factor SUXXXX!!!

That's only because you're a cheater.

-spence

Nope...Just smart.:rude: