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EarnedStripes44 05-27-2008 11:54 AM

McCain opposes drilling in ANWR, he voted against it.

EarnedStripes44 05-27-2008 12:02 PM

What I love most about McCain, is that he might be a closet card carrying member of Greenpeace. He had this to say on the O'Reilly factor:

O’REILLY: You voted against ANWR drilling. You voted against ANWR.

MCCAIN: Yes, and I’ll vote against drilling if they want to drill in the Grand Canyon, and I’ll vote against it if they want to drill in the Everglades. And I will try to make it more attractive for Florida and California and other states to have drilling off of their coasts, but I’m not going to force them to because…

O’REILLY: But no one lives in ANWR.

MCCAIN: No, it’s pristine beauty.

O’REILLY: So what? Who sees it?

MCCAIN: Well, all I do is believe that we have to preserve some of the great natural treasures of this earth…

O’REILLY: In the Arctic Circle?

MCCAIN: …no matter where they are, my friend. And I…
O’REILLY: You know, a lot of people aren’t going to like that.

MCCAIN: I know a lot of people don’t like it, but I am also an environmentalist. And so was Teddy Roosevelt, my hero. And I believe that there are just some things that you have to…


source: http://texasfred.net/archives/1181

EarnedStripes44 05-27-2008 12:02 PM

McCain has no plan!

Nebe 05-27-2008 03:59 PM

While you say has no plan, he just earned a little of my respect.

UserRemoved1 05-27-2008 04:11 PM

I would vote for mccain in a heartbeat. IMO he is the only viable candidate. These other schmoes are absolute idiots.

justplugit 05-27-2008 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman (Post 592672)
Let me guess...he is a democrat.

:hihi:

Joe 05-27-2008 07:39 PM

He's doing his best to distance himself from Bush with the hope of attracting some Reagan Democrats. It's a counter to Obama's strategy of citing “Bush-McCain" policies whenever possible - in that electing McCain will be a de-facto third term for Bush.

EarnedStripes44 05-28-2008 12:09 PM

What concerns me most about McCain is his war policy but other than that, as mentioned earlier, he has taken some respectable stances on issues despite forsaking political expediency (save torture ban, he voted against that one). McCain, in some cases, would rather go with his gut than with the grain. The problem with that being, Bush, if he gets away with such presidential recklessness and unaccoutability, has set a dangerous precedent for unabashed executive power. McCain could take that and run with it or he could restore constitutional relevance and accountability to the executive branch.

Will he do that? because some members (ex-members) of the current administration should be prosecuted!

likwid 05-28-2008 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 592805)
While you say has no plan, he just earned a little of my respect.

Ditto.
If you somehow believe the hype from the oil lobbyists about drilling in ANWR you're a complete fool. Same with the Bristol Bay Pebble Mine.

EarnedStripes44 05-28-2008 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 592989)
Ditto.
If you somehow believe the hype from the oil lobbyists about drilling in ANWR you're a complete fool. Same with the Bristol Bay Pebble Mine.

:cheers:

Why sell a barrel of oil for $50, when it is evident that you can sell it for $100+ and demand budges little. The only thing drilling in ANWR will do is put more $100+ priced barrels on the market. The Oligopoly is in full effect, and the lobbying firms are their tentacles.

likwid 05-28-2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44 (Post 593003)
:cheers:

Why sell a barrel of oil for $50, when it is evident that you can sell it for $100+ and demand budges little. The only thing drilling in ANWR will do is put more $100+ priced barrels on the market. The Oligopoly is in full effect, and the lobbying firms are their tentacles.

$8 per barrel x god knows how many barrels per day PROFIT wasn't good enough. :tm:

And the only good thing about McCain taking office would be a damn hot 1st daughter. :hihi:

Joe 05-28-2008 08:22 PM

Exxon Mobil/BP have submitted plans for technical service contracts to increase production at super oil fields in Iraq.

Rockport24 05-29-2008 02:47 PM

oh, that's interesting, so this war is finally going to pay off then? :hihi:

likwid 05-29-2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe (Post 593090)
Exxon Mobil/BP have submitted plans for technical service contracts to increase production at super oil fields in Iraq.

With all the fighting between not only "insurgents" but the individual groups throughout the country WHEN do they propose to do this? :lurk:

Nebe 05-29-2008 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockport24 (Post 593219)
oh, that's interesting, so this war is finally going to pay off then? :hihi:

it will pay off for exxon mobile... not for the consumer.

Rockport24 05-30-2008 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 593226)
it will pay off for exxon mobile... not for the consumer.

yeah, you're right, then congress will ask them why the prices are still high even with this increased production in Iraq and they will say they are victims of the increased demand again :rollem:

Joe 05-31-2008 10:31 PM

Iraq is currently producing about 2 mil barrels a day. The biggest oil fields are in southern Iraq and the oil exports via the port city of Basra. Iran is a bigger threat to oil production and movement than the insurgents.

Exxon and BP now have a toehold in Iraq oil production via the TSC's as will other western companies and this will lead to expanding influence and control of Iraqi oil reserves. The pain of paying of $5 a gallon will lessen the backlash of public opinion with regard to the war being about oil. It will be ok with most people because reasonable people are more concerned about money than ideology.

Sluggoslinger 06-06-2008 06:22 PM

gas out here right now... 4.50 for 87 it SUX

UserRemoved1 06-06-2008 06:26 PM

I've driven 107 miles on a little over a gallon

:laughs:

Lovin every minute of it.

UserRemoved1 06-07-2008 04:38 AM

well stop takin pictures then I only perform for the lense :hee:

Nebe 06-07-2008 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 595510)
well stop takin pictures then I only perform for the lense :hee:

thats what yo moma said. :heybaby:

:hee:

justplugit 06-07-2008 09:04 AM

South Dakota voters approved constuction of a new refinery to refine 400,000 barrels of Canada crude / day.
Will employ1800 people and 4000 consruction jobs.
First new refinery in US in 30 years. Will take 4 years to complete.

At least it's a long over due start.

ProfessorM 06-07-2008 10:30 AM

30 years? great planning by whomever.

Adam_777 06-07-2008 12:44 PM

Went up 10 cents over night ! again

Katie 06-07-2008 12:52 PM

was 3.83 here yesterday afternoon
now its 3.98 this morning..
15 cents overnight!!!

basswipe 06-08-2008 12:08 PM

$4.09 at the local Cumby's.

Hell I paid $3.84 at S&S and it cost $65 to fill up a 4cyl Tacoma.What a bargain.:bs:

Nebe 06-08-2008 04:00 PM

I will say that there is about half the cars on the road as there usually is around me...its like summer never started. I see a booming summer tourisim season..... yeah right :hs:

RIROCKHOUND 06-08-2008 04:29 PM

Took a bike ride around my neighborhood in the Pier. Definetly less people around than I would have thought given the weather forecast!

likwid 06-08-2008 05:18 PM

Raced yesterday, counted 4 power boats in Quicks.
2 small CC's coming out of Menemsha.

Quiet day on the bay!

Mike P 06-08-2008 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 595868)
I will say that there is about half the cars on the road as there usually is around me...its like summer never started. I see a booming summer tourisim season..... yeah right :hs:

Cape rentals are doing very well. Kids are still in school, and people are cutting down their weekend excursions, but once they take their 1-2 week summer vacations, Scenic Highway will once again be a two-way parking lot every Saturday afternoon.


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