what about a weighted treble for snagging? :tooth:

Seriously...In the world of gov't regulations this is called user conflict and can only end up leading to beaches designated for specific use (ie: Montauk) which in the end means less access. First on the spot got the spot and be polite when that behavior is broken.

And going in to surf where I'm ripping a three ounce popper is stupidity

Alright....dull hooks then.:tooth:

I'd prob. just grab my board and join them....

It's much easier to find a fishing spot that is unsurfable, than a surfing spot that is unfishable (if not impossible). I understand the being there first rule, but if theres a wickid swell hitting the coast chances are surfers will show up. Some surfers dont have the respect that I and many others do, so this whole throwing a plug at us businees needs to stop. I fish as well and would never even think about doing something like that. You guys are better than that. If surfers are giving you a hard time, find another spot, its not worth dealing with a bunch of cocky surfers and possibly getting into a fight.

Theres so much coast that can be fished, but not that much of it can be surfed. Thats the mindset of the surfers, we dont see the consistant waves the west coast sees, so when a swell hits the beach may not be the best place to fish.

Hulky...this has happened to me several times......I will hold my ground! Here is the scenario......I go to bed extra early the night before so I can be up at 3 am to hit my favorite spot......I get up early, drive all the way there, gear up and hoof it out there to make the first pre-sunrise casts......I am the first one there!!! I begin fishing, hook a few.......and suddenly a surfer shows up......now this spot is a small area.....if he surfs and I fish......we are in each others way! I hope he yields and moves along (which has happened before). What has also happened before is they slide down the cliff and right into my zone, my line of fire....and they know it!!!! SORRY!!!!! I am going to keep fishing as I went to alot of time and trouble to get there at a specific time to fish! I have made myself quite clear at these times that I am there and I am fishing the spot regardless if they choose to "zip" around me! Usually after a few....shall we say.....near misses...:rolleyes:.....they will move along! If I yield that spot just because they show up......it will be a sign to them everytime for them to simply enter the water, and the big dumb goof ball with the fishing rod will go away....UH-UH!:cens: Now....on the other hand I have had this happen after I have spent a couple hours fishing a spot and its just dead, the surfers show up and because it has been unproductive, I have yielded the spot to them!:wave: I do my best to be a good guy....but in that vein I expect the same in return and when it does not come.....then the gloves....they are off.....like it or not!:fight:

If you are there first and they want to surf into your casts their fault if they get hooked, and if they have a problem with it thats why i carry a .45 in my bag. well and if i catch something bigger than me with teeth. :hihi:

if they are on the spot first im sure that yall have more spots. :fishslap:

Bingo.

And the organizations that surfers belong to certainly have ALOT more clout than most surfcasting organizations.

Really, you can put Surfrider alongside Audubon, the U.S. Park Service, shoreline towns, and waterfront property owners - they'd like it all for themselves.

Surfers v.s. Surfcasters
 

Never happened when I was a kid surfing everyday like I did. Never ever was there a conflict of any sort. And I use to surf at night sometimes on the full moon and it wasn't overcast. You could see a wave far enough away to prepare for it. No one ever bothered me that was a fisherman. A lifeguard maybe, once or twice, but never someone fishing.

I am not here to defend the @$$ holes that show up and feel that they own the ocean because they surf. I am warning you that I know some of these types of people who just dont see both sides of the battle. I have never gotten in a fishemans way, and never had a surfer take away my spot (mostly because I do not fish in big surf because its rare and im surfing).

These guys have a militant localist attitude on some spots, and it can get people hurt. Sounds dumb, and it is. The ocean is everybodys, but it may not be worth your while to toss a plug at someone if youre alone and theres 4 or 5 surfers that show up.

As for pulling a gun, little extreme. That could get you in a lot of trouble brandishing that thing at a surfer after you just tossed a plug at him or her. Pulling a lethal weapon, loaded or not, should be the last thing you would think of doing in any situation because u never know who that surfer could be. (aka a cop, service man or woman, your neighbors kid etc.)

The fact still remains that there are more places to fish than there are to surf. Most of the surfers that do this crap are not local unless its a really good swell. If youre a local to the spot chances are you may get to know the surfers and maybe have an understanding with them to avoid the conflicts. Just remember surfers know when theres good surf in a spot, and fishermen have no idea if theres going to be fish.

you miss understood what i said about my piece, i said if they have a problem and start %$%$%$%$ they get laid out and i plant a knife on them... lol

Thankfully the police are much much smarter than you.

lol, how do you know im not an officer?

I'd be more amazed to find out you were over 15 than an officer

:lama:

why becuase i was telling jokes, you all are too seriouse

Location: Portland Maine

Once upon a time I was a ski patroller at a popular Maine resort.
Driving up one morning to the resort I got pulled over by a cop.
He says "son, you got a headlight out"
I turn to him and say "you do too"
He looks and sure enough...
He walked back to his car and drove off.

lol that is perfect