You might want to take a different approach and start off by buying some needles of different sizes, sink rates, weights, etc... You don't need a bunch of all the same size.

I usually carry a stubby, a floater a moderate sinker and occasionally a fast sinker for the conditions I fish. That way, I have different profiles and different depths covered.

Steve,

Salty Bugger gave me one that is very dark blue/purpleish with glow eyes and reflective tint in the finish. I don't normally use dark patterns during the bright moon but his needle has produced well. Not sure what pattern he calls it but the phrase "full moon special" is my description of it. Salty? Chime in.

As far as Ducharmes Needles - some good things are best left in my bag. Geez their good.

DZ

That was either a predator or a turquoise fire. I've not ever seen anyone use this stuff on wood before. It's very expensive but you've seen the results Dennis. I'll wait and ask for a report of how it worked for you at the next RISAA show. I figured you'd like that needle.

I kinda liked the full moon special aspect :)

Yes they are....

Thanks for the link and enjoyed the read.

well thats my plan (minus the stubby) i want them all the same size length wise though. different sinks rates and actions. but all relatively the same size with some matching colors. (basically using the bottom of the DZ's article. as a base collection) then once i find something that produces something in a certain situation. i can start experimenting with sizes and such. instead of having one big floating green one or one small sinking black one. because then being new i cant really determine what cause the bite. was it the size? was it the color? was it the depth? i dont know cause each one was completely different.

where as if they are the same size. thats a factored out. then i would assume find the color that gets the most attention. then figure out depth. though i suppose that could be worked in reverse. and once i find out best combination of those two for a spot. i can get more of that color and depth in a different length and find the magic size.
its just how i gotta do it. cause i gotta start from scratch.

p.s. boy i'm gabby today. i havent talked much all season and now its all bursting out. getting excited for fall since things are finally starting to happen around here. :jump:

I agree 100 percent.

Think what you will but most of the needlefish in my bag are Gags. The earlier models with a slightly stubby nose have produced very well for me over the years, this year especially.

For the areas mostlyI fish they fit the bill nicely, I do carry an extensive assortment of others in my truck at all times though and for the outer Cape, at the tide I favor, Gibbs standard seven inch work very well. I will tell you this year white and yellow have been the top producers new moon or full.

Often times a quick snap of the rod tip during that oh so slow retrieve will get a following fish to take when you know fish are there but won't commit.

My personal favorite needle presentation is cutting a small vee wake across the surface.

I am a needle addict. Once you figured out the routine, it's just amazing how productive they can be.

Steve, I'm a fan of Mark's needlefish, but the only place I've seen them retailed is at Twin Maples on BI. Does anyone on the mainland sell his lures?

#^&#^&#^&#^&- Sam's bait and tackle in middletown has them