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Please let me be the one to throw the rock that breaks the bubble your living in. If it hits you by accident very sorry but with free health care you have no worries :rotf3:
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[QUOTE=Flaptail;631389]Seperation of church and state, isn't that called for in our constitution?
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So if it isn't in the consitution, it doesn't matter??? I agree Flap, while the 'Religious Right Moonbats' have a scary amount of increasing influence, if we ever get to that point, it will be a scary scary world. Like stepping back 50 years.... "Separation of church and state is a political and legal doctrine that government and religious institutions are to be kept separate and independent from each other.The term most often refers to the combination of two principles: secularity of government and freedom of religious exercise The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to the letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state. The phrase was then quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1948. This led to increased popular and political discussion of the concept." |
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he said he is .....95%....why shouldn't I believe him, he's the messiah, I saw the little maoist children singing in the you tube video about how he's going to CHANGE the world....this guy is amazing...just ask him....or Biden if you can locate him.....I'm just falling in line with the rest of the head nodders that think a bigger government, higher taxation and wealth distribution can cure all of society's ills...Socialism is the wave of the future, look around the world....Socialism is on the march....South and Central America...Europe is always leaning Marxist, Russia wants to relive the glory days...Chavez is eyeing Cuba.....get on board baby....you've heard Obama rave over China's "PROGRESS"(forgetting that half of their population is starving) ....just look Europe, it's an economic powerhouse on a par with...well...Rhode Island....although....I think just about any place in Europe would happily trade unemployment rates with RI (highest in the nation)... I haven't seen anything in the mainstream media that would indicate to me that this guy wouldn't be our greatest president in history, MY LEG IS TINGLING.....HE'S THE ONE !!!!! |
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From Wikipedia (I know, but I dont have time to dig up a 'real' source) "THE REAL SOURCE"...LIKE THE ACTUAL CONSTITUTION???? HAAAAA not good enough I'm afraid...not in the Constitution In 1801 the Danbury Baptist Association of Danbury Connecticut had heard a rumor that the Congregationalist Denomination was about to become the established religion of the United States. Being concerned, as they should be, they wrote a letter to then President Thomas Jefferson on October 7th 1801. On January 1st, 1802 Jefferson replied in a letter, which contained the following statement: “American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and State”. This letter is where the misrepresented idea of separation of church came from. 1811 – People vs. Ruggles The Supreme Court Stated: “Whatever strikes at the root of Christianity tends to manifestly to the dissolution of civil government.” In 1853 a group filed a suit that actually wanted “Separation of Church and State”. The Case never made it to the Supreme Court. On March 27, 1854 The House Judiciary Committee Stated: “Had the people during the revolution had any suspicion of any attempt to war against Christianity, the revolution would have been strangled in its cradle.” The Committee Continued… “At the time of the adoption of the constitution and the amendments, the universal sentiment was the Christianity should be encouraged, but not any one sect.” Also, it stated… “In this age, there can be no substitute for Christianity. That was the religion of the founders of the Republic and they expected it to remain the religion of their descendants.” Furthermore… “The great vital and conservative element of our system is the belief of our people in the pure doctrines and the divine truths of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.” 1878 – Reynolds vs. United States *****In this case the Supreme Court used Thomas Jefferson’s letter in its entirety. The letter was actually used to ensure Christian principals were kept in government. this is fun.... |
Bush & Paulson are socializing the banking industry as we speak....(I know, here we go again with the Bush bashing)...or rather he has masked nepotism under the guise of socialism i.e. taxpayer dollars to CEO fraternity brethren.
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m*****f***** Bush, only Bush I like are the trimmed ones I'm throwing dollars at in King Arthurs!!!
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Again, I am not religious, but see how quickly a lefty (sorry flap) lashes out at religion? Its free thought as long as you agree with me. "independent thought in based on scinece fact rather than religious science fiction" see how you dismiss other peoples views as science fiction? So who is really the threat to free thinking? Fundamentalists or Liberals? |
“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But, under the name of ‘liberalism’, they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”
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you are assuming that religeon dictates who people vote for and that's quite a leap....if you are Catholic, Jew, Black Liberation Theologist, Tree Worshiper and you vote the right way...OBAMA....everything is cool...but if you vote the wrong way...NOT OBAMA...then you are a religeous zealot and you only vote the way that your religeous leaders tell you to and probably based on abortion....oh, and you are a RACIST...huh?
Catholics and Jews are probably split pretty evenly between candidates, in fact Obama was leading among Catholics according to a poll yesterday(need to run some more infanticide commercials)...Obama has locked up the BLT's the Tree Worshipers and the Radical Muslims as well....oh, and the God/Jesus Deniers..... |
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The United States economy is like a poker game where the chips have become concentrated in fewer and fewer hands, and where the other fellows can stay in the game only by borrowing. When their credit runs out the game will stop.
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Yea, that place is still open, metal detectors and all. Only if the bouncers knew those chumps just keep the hammers in their cars, they dont fight anymore and god forbid you step on someone's $180 pair of shoes. That place is like the wild wild west. Some of the girls arent bad though :faga:......not that I would know, my russian just ain't that good. |
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this has ZERO to do with the separation of church and state,,,,, ZERO.
this is about people voting based on their religious views. Are any of you implying thats wrong? A religion has laws and beliefs its FOLLOWERS (hence the term) believe in. Most believe religion is driven by a higher power. If people truly beleive this and believe they are guided by a higher power and the laws that come from this power, I feel they are obligated to make decisions based on that. I dont agree with that, but I dont hold that against people. Like it or not - this country was founded by those wanting to live by their religious freedom. I cant fault people who vote based on their religious beliefs. |
Nothing wrong with following your religious beliefs when you vote, if thats what you want to do then thats your perogative....Its when those who are elected use their religious beliefs to dictate policy...Thats the issue that is scary
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Nail on the head TDF.
Nail on the head. RIJ; for all I care you can worship the Fonz, but keep it out of politics. |
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I think helping others is a basic human belief that we all should have...at least thats how I feel....and thats for people who truly need it...not the people that are to lazy to help themselves (Just in case, so I don't have to throw that Scarlett "L" on my chest again)
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let me help you: Congress shall make no Law respecting and establishment of Religeon or Prohibiting the free exercise thereof.... I think Obamaism is clearly a religeon that the socialist/marxist left would like to establish through the Congress and a clear affront to our Constitution and it's First Ammendment I hate it when people get involved or vote in "Moral Issues", there's way too much morality around these days.... |
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For those against gay marriage- Dont marry your gay lover... Same goes for abortion.. against it... then don't have one. But don't tell other people how to run their lives. :wavey: |
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