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bloocrab 01-23-2009 07:49 AM

The guy tossin jigs at the ditch.........or the guy sittin chunks on the Hunk?...:D


I can last longer than you Bruce, I just know I can...........................cuz she told me so....:eek:

l.i.fish.in.vt 01-23-2009 08:22 AM

Bruce, i think i have a few years on you and if anything i am fishing harder and skiing harder than i ever had.i think the biggest factor is staying in shape both mentally and physically. once you start using the i am getting older excuse you are on the way down.i still enjoy staying up all night fishing,even when i know the best fishing can often be had in a certain few hours. just being at waters edge when no one else is around is enough to keep me going.

Clogston29 01-23-2009 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Saltheart (Post 657596)
Assuming you stay psyched to fish and fish hard when you go , the activity itself keeps you in shape until you turn a corner when do to age and deterioration the activity starts to wear you down.

have to disagree with you there. i think relying on fishing to keep you in shape is a mistake. just look around. as far as fitness benefits of fishing, its really an easy activity - no matter how "extreme" you try to make it.

if anything, the lack of sleep probably has worse effects on overall health than any benefit of being "active"

planter 01-23-2009 09:42 AM

I guess when I first read the question I just assumed that it suggested the white collar guy earn more money. I know a few blue collar who make pretty good dough and I know white collar guys who can barely afford their suits.

It's the guy who is motivated even after hours of "wasted" time and no signs of fish but who keeps going like every cast is his first cast.

bassballer 01-23-2009 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Clogston29 (Post 657669)
have to disagree with you there. i think relying on fishing to keep you in shape is a mistake. just look around. as far as fitness benefits of fishing, its really an easy activity - no matter how "extreme" you try to make it.

if anything, the lack of sleep probably has worse effects on overall health than any benefit of being "active"

I agree with this. Fishing alone no matter how "hard" you fish doesnt take the place of cardio, and core/weight training, eating clean, that is needed to really keep the body in shape. Being out in the surf all night, sleep deprevation, late night eating, coffee, red bull, isnt at all "good for you". Relying on some rock hopping, and some beach walking, little swimming, isnt going to GET you in shape.

WESTPORTMAFIA 01-23-2009 11:57 AM

I think it comes down to passion for the sport. I sit at a desk for 10 hrs a day and I'm beat both mentally and physically it just drains you. I feel worse than when I was doing 50hrs of manual labor. White or Blue it's in your blood. If I changed careers I would fish the same amount.

Tagger 01-23-2009 03:54 PM

You lift alot but don't get alot of good cardio doing construction .. Construction workers diet off the garbage truck,, pizza ,, sausage subs,,cheese burgers,, add cigarettes and mass quanitys of beer and coffee .. You get older you tend to want to just lay down and die .. Can't do that ,, gotta hit the gym .,.gotta do cardio ..I have alot of new female friends working out with the girls . Wish I did this when I was younger .. :alien:

The Iceman 6 01-23-2009 04:10 PM

It's all in the mind, if you don't mind, it don't matter.

striperondafly 01-23-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Clogston29 (Post 657429)
no corrolation between blue and white collar IMO

comes down to who takes care of themselves the best

I think you nailed it :) NO corrolation.

Mental toughness and attitude (oh yeah patience) is probably what the deciding factors are between a guy who leaves after an hour and a guy who fished two tides.

Clogston29 01-23-2009 06:38 PM

there seams to be two seperate debates here:

1. who lasts longer, in terms of years
2. who lasts longer on individual trips

i interprated the question to be 1 and answered that

if 2 was the question, i again say that there is no correlation, but taking care of yourself doesn't come into play as much - unless your already in poor health

tagger - i'm picturing you in short shorts, a bright colored sleeveless t-shirt and a headband in an aerobics class :hihi:

Raven 01-23-2009 07:05 PM

don't knock being healthy
 
for a free subscription to a great little health magazine

go to www.energytimes.com

i learn more about health with every issue

knowledge is power-> on this subject.

RickBomba 01-23-2009 10:23 PM

I'll take #^&#^&#^&#^& Simmons any day...us white collar guys have to stick together...in more ways than one!

Redsoxticket 01-23-2009 11:17 PM

Given identical twins that ate the same type of food and equal ambition for surfcasting then I'd say the white collar. During their younger years, I don't know, maybe a toss up. However, as they get older injuries of younger years come back in the form of arthritis, etc and it is more likely the blue collar labor worker will have these aliments that require back or knee surgery because they are a higher risk.

As an aside.
Just look at friends of your age that were jocks (white and blue) and were good in sports throughout and ten years after high school, now they have knee, back, torn muscles, etc.

Krispy 01-24-2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 5/0 (Post 657465)
I truly believe allot of outlasting the other Guys is mental thought kinda like mind over matter:faga:
It all comes down to pure will to mental indurance.

Definitely!
Ive done a few long nights with the likes of Redlite and Lapinksi, and we're polar opposites physically and mentally, but we always make it till dawn.
They have bounding stamina and positive outlook, and I have physical tolerance and mental determination.
As long as your still standing with a rod in your hand, one last cast..

Tagger 01-24-2009 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Karl F (Post 657892)

wrong ,,, not me ,, I wear my shorts shorter ....:laugha:

jimmy z 01-24-2009 06:35 AM

I think it depends on how much into this thing we do, one is.
How much drive and motivation does one have? To do this thing we do.:wavey:

Tagger 01-24-2009 06:46 AM

sleep apnia can't help .. starting the night out on half a tank .

Raven 01-24-2009 07:27 AM

extremely close
 
we are extremely close to having a gadget that we can put on our head and get 4 hours of solid rem sleep in 25 minutes...

they will be expensive at first....

Japan's most smartest inventor came up with the idea
several years ago

but he built an elaborate relaxation recliner which will
eventually become a Mobile device instead.

that will be the BALLS.......

davisd 01-24-2009 07:58 AM

:fishin: I say neither. You find and make the time if you truly want to fish. Just my thought.

HESH2 01-24-2009 08:25 AM

i tkink age is the biggest factor here.i'm old blue collar who fishes over 100 days a year,all from surf during daylite.my body is beat up from age and blue collar work.i look at 2 of my white collar sons,who are in pretty good shape and can go hours day or nite fishing hard.they can do the walk and do the talk.

Big Water 01-24-2009 09:01 AM

White vs Blue
 
There are three of us that have been fishing together for awhile, two of us since the early 80's. We are a combination of Blue and White Collar and all on the either side of 55 years old. The true White Collar is a marathoner. We all swim and still do all-nighters. We all feel very fortunate to have such a passion as surfcasting that has kept our attention for so long. We have stayed in shape over the years with the mindset of being able to keep up. I see us doing this for awhile.:jump1: :bounce::shocked:

Joe 01-24-2009 09:26 AM

The runner's body and the elite surfcaster's body are very similar.

Slipknot 01-24-2009 09:43 AM

I really like the variety of answers, very good so far.
And LMAO Bloocrab, I am not surprised by your answer:hs::)

My thought was either one, lasting longer thru the years or on one trip.

Redsoxticket, I can relate. my body is wearing down but I refuse to give in. Back surgery at 37, never been the same - constant maintenence, old hockey injuries even though I was NOT a jock by any means, arthritis creeping up on me. Work has beat my body up. As my friend NIB says, motion is lotion. So I will keep on casting.

I actually think available time and time for sleep or recovery has more to do with who lasts longer, also the drive and ability to will yourself to stay at it. I have done my share of all-nighters and it gets old as I get older and as my mind gets tired the hunting for the fish is less effective so not worth it unless well rested, I can't do caffine or rely on that.

Brian L 01-24-2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clogston29 (Post 657429)
no corrolation between blue and white collar IMO

comes down to who takes care of themselves the best

Bingo

Sea Dangles 01-24-2009 10:10 AM

I have found that coffee, potato chips and a fattie work wonders for an all nighter.

NIB 01-24-2009 10:14 AM

You guys make it seem like Yard work..I'm close to 30 years a tile man.At close to 50 I'm starting to feel the pains of a lifetime of schlepping.There's no sense in complaining everyone has problems.I do think I might have been better off with a profession that did not wear on my body like mine does.But you know they say the grass is always greener.While I hardly have the athlete's body I once did I have no problem fishing thru the night.It's not about endurance or perseverance.It's something I enjoy doing..It takes a lot for me to leave.I can go home and sleep easy on good nights it's the tough nights that keep me up till dawn every time.
I can not stand not catching IMO there is no reason for it.They are biting somewhere and I have to find em.Some call it madness I call it LOVE..
Thats why I prefer to fish alone.I don't want my time on the water to be dictated by someone else.Most times when the fishing is tough I am the last one standing.I have a few good fish under my belt that I have taken during this time to remind why I stay..

NIB 01-24-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 658042)
I have found that coffee, potato chips and a fattie work wonders for an all nighter.

Plus you hang that carrot of PITS in front of the NIB and he's a mule like no other..

rphud 01-24-2009 10:42 AM

Whomever can afford long term HGH treatments, along with the occasional 'roid treatments for injuries recovery. Better living through chemistry. Science can make the ultimate surfcaster.

numbskull 01-24-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NIB (Post 658045)
You guys make it seem like Yard work..I'm close to 30 years a tile man.At close to 50 I'm starting to feel the pains of a lifetime of schlepping...

LOL. Once you hit 50 you quit worrying about how you feel and start worrying about what you got left for fishing time ......... not that you can remember once you figure it out. :eek: :shocked:

HESH2 01-26-2009 08:20 AM

after reading all the posts,different jobs,age,body types etc.what it really comes down too is everbodys passion to go fishing.our passion is what drives us all.


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