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Anyone who tries to tell you that there's a snowball's chance in hell of beating the Feds on this issue is full of hot air. No license will be required in Mass in 2010. It's not clear whether we'll have to register with the Feds (my opinion is that we will have to), but the Federal registry is free in 2010. |
How many?
Does anyone have an idea how many recreational fishermen fish in MA? Just wondering how much the state will squeeze from us.
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$10 dollars is just the foot in the door ...I also wonder if this is going to put a damper on take a kid fishing .. no license no fishy .. I'd just soon pay the combo and get it over with ..
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My head would have to be so far up my ass that I would be looking out my mouth to believe anything a politician tells me.:bshake:
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Registry?? Why would I register??? If there is no fee I won't bother!!
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Sucks.I'm not buying one.:wall:
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Yeah, what really bugs me about this is the state reciprocity issue ... when you fish out of Stonington via boat, you could be in RI, NY and CT waters within minutes ... and if you don't bother fishing in CT at all, since Fisher's Island is all within NY ... do you still need to purchase a license for CT? As it would be tough to prove that you did not fish in CT waters when you return to port. So what do you do, have to purchase both a CT and NY license, along with a MA and any others that you may want to visit briefly ...?
One good thing about the Florida license for residents is that you don't need a license if you are fishing from shore ... although it may have changed since I lived there in the 1990s, but at that time, all residents who did not fish from boats could fish without the license and they sold a combo license with snook stamp for only two buck more at a reasonable cost ... Something tells me that Mass will be a mess ... |
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BS, That is the Deval way out. So Does your Drivers Licence cover you in say California? Atleast with the federal licence, you would be good wherever you go. This sounds as ass backwards of when a commercial vehicle conducted buisness in another state it had to be tagged in that state. Lets go Re-invent the wheel, ( It's a little known secret In Massachusettes we do it best). All said and done were all going to piss and moan about it but no one will have the stones to stand up and say %$%$%$%$ YOU Im not doing it. Collectivly everyone has just bent over and taken it the hard way because as a group we all talk hard, but when it gets to doing, individuals roll over at the drop of a hat. Just contributing to the Wussification of America. Ill probably get kicked off here with this post but oh well. |
Comments are amazing..I wonder where all the above writers were when Patrick Parquet and the other political activists from MSBA - MBBA - and all the clubs were asking for comments and input on the FEDERAL mandate. I for one think we got the best we could get after much fighting and arguing. I don't like the fact we are getting hit with a fee to fish and am apprehensive about the future use of the funds, but this is NOT a State of Mass only mandate. Didn't RI legislature pass a similar bill only to have their Governor veto it ? That will make interesting reading next year.
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i'll believe improved access when i see it............:confused:
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$10.00
Just a shot in the dark here, but I would imagine the SW license and getting caught fishing without one will fall under the same exact law as the FW license. And not that I ever enforced that particular law I believe it is an arrestable misdomeanor. You can also be summons, but you can be arrested also.
The administrative costs are the "friends of Deval" he hasn't found a job yet for. |
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Happy Thanksgiving Dudes. I have a different concern. How will this licence help me on the outer cape to cast from the beach through more than 6-8000seals and expect to land a fish,any fish without a seal grabbing it. I would like to have you think about a slow rabbit on a dog track and you can get an idea. I,m sure the clowns will have a clause in the licence in regard to competing against the poor seals and there right to assembly to desecrate all protein in a small area. Regardless of whether you fish or not how can anyone that has any concern for conservation allow this wipe out of all protein in an area without realizing that the seals need to be thinned out. notice i didn't say killed. Just a thought
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http://www.mass.gov/legis/bills/sena...02/st02200.htm Old Goat...im sure they will incorporate a seal stamp which will require you to pay more in the following years since you may inadvertantly compete with the seals for the stripers and blues...seals have rights too you know.. |
I took the day off from work and protested against this at the DMF 100 sallinstall building Boston when Phil Coates was the man .. seems like 15 yrs. ago maybe more . I use to go to those meetings where they say Bio Mass a bunch of times ?? well here it is .. Its all BS in my opinion .. hail the almighty $$$ .. Its money swimming around ,,not fish ,, soon as the numbers are up, so is the pressure to hammer the fish . They paint the picture to whatever suits thier needs . $$$ Politics ... my 2 cents
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No government has ever given anyone anything, governments are all about taking things and rights away from one group because another group makes a bigger noise. In this case, the only people who gain are the fish counters.
The only way to fight them is to organize, on the same page, write our representatives that's what they are you know, and vote, vote, vote. If they can't do our bidding or decide to represent other interests, then vote their arses out. This license is just another fine example of our(the fisherman's) failure to do just that. It's so easy to call or e-mail your rep in Government. Didn't do it. You have to watch them closely, too. Sadly, time for bitching is over and time to pay up is here. It ain't gonna go back, but maybe we can keep increases reasonable.JMHO. |
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Gary this statement is not correct. The Federal Rule clearly states the federal plan must be state by state. Many of the questions being posed in this post have been answered on this board over the past year or two. Another great way to make sure you have good info is to check with your local fishing club. |
Every one here complaining about $10 :rotf2:
From what could find out through Patrick my lic will be $125.00 And should I go on a friends boat who is rec or go surf fishing , I also need the $10 rec lic ! |
Its not the $10 Ron its the principle of A. Having to pay for the right to fish the salt and B. Wanting to be sure the money gets where it is supposed to go!
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In RI, where I would imagine the same Federal policy exists as in Ma., if you have a Fed HMS permit you do not need a state license.
I won't be getting a license nor will I ask anyone fishing on my boat to get one. I'm registered as far as I know. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.fifthestateci.com/clients...t.Sheet.RI.pdf This is the NOAA fact sheet!!! |
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When my kids were young I would take them to the beach fishing crabbing ect ...ect... Money was short in them days and we would have fun for free!
There is nothing you can do free anymore and feel sorry for the people that are short cash, what are they going to do free now?? $10 gets us in the door wait till it goes up, up, up! Going to by access? YEA RIGHT!! What we getting for are money?? More regulation!! As far as saying there is nothing we can do, If no one pays what they going to do?? Put us all in jail?? We have become sheep, just follow them around, we need to all stand up, not just the few!! State or Feds if we ALL say NO they will listen! We or I already pay tax and fees for a boat trailer truck, ramp fee's, were is all that cash going. We pay for fresh water cause they raise the fish and stock the ponds, Are they going to stock Bass, Fluke, Sea Bass, Scup, Blues?? NO I fish commercial and will do Scup & Sea Bass in April, Fluke in May & June & July, Bass July & Aug, Sea Bass & Scup in Aug. Spet & Oct Tuna Nope no $$$ for Rec fishing!!:fury: |
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