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buckman 05-25-2010 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 769769)
What would they be saying?
The truth, since it was well known and publicized both Bush and Cheney had deep ties into drilling.

But lets just whine and cry shall we? I know its much more convenient than those silly things like facts.

You're just still bitter ANWR drilling was blocked aren't you?

Go read what I wrote ! I blame BP and feel tha Obama knows whats going on. Whine and cry???? Go put your head back in the sand.

JohnnyD 05-27-2010 07:55 AM

buckman's vehicle was spotted yesterday:


http://www.goopeg.com/img/kaRaYtO8.jpg

fishbones 05-27-2010 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 770106)
buckman's vehicle was spotted yesterday:


http://www.goopeg.com/img/kaRaYtO8.jpg

That's pissa. I love the Steak N' Shake in the background (or is it the foreground) of the pic.

likwid 05-27-2010 09:49 AM

I had someone riding my ass the other day on Montauk Highway, so being the law abiding citizen I am, I slowed down well below the speed limit. Its a speed limit right? So its reasonable to do 30 in a 40. He was flashing his lights and surging up on me.

Had a republican sticker. :hihi:

Eventually he got past.
And got tagged in downtown East Hampton. :rotf2:

Don't speed kids. :hihi:

Joe 05-27-2010 10:02 AM

Almost as fun as pulling in front of old people doing 25 in a 40 and slowing to 12.5

RIROCKHOUND 05-27-2010 11:12 AM

YouTube - peter the redneck...

likwid 05-27-2010 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 770143)
Almost as fun as pulling in front of old people doing 25 in a 40 and slowing to 12.5

They're the ones speeding half the time.
In the double lane section of Southampton a dude in a truck and i blocked out some idiot playing swap the lanes trying to get by.

He never got by.
Infact got cut off twice by each of us to continue blocking him from speeding off. Gotta obey the speed limit and all yanno. Serious business. :rotf2:

buckman 05-27-2010 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 770106)
buckman's vehicle was spotted yesterday:


http://www.goopeg.com/img/kaRaYtO8.jpg

I wish:biglaugh:

buckman 05-28-2010 02:07 PM

Saw Obama last night. He is effin clueless. Didn't know anything about anything.

Here's a shock...they were off by at least a factor of 3 on their calculations.

The Admiral in charge just may know less then Obama.....he was in charge of Katrina efforts. HOLY SH$T

Raider Ronnie 05-28-2010 04:25 PM

BP = Barack's Pals

JohnnyD 05-28-2010 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 770457)
BP = Barack's Pals

:smash::smash:

Raider Ronnie 05-28-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 770484)
:smash::smash:

Whats the problem ?
Is it not a fact they donated big $ to his campaign ?

likwid 05-28-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 770518)
Whats the problem ?
Is it not a fact they donated big $ to his campaign ?

You mean the same amount they donated to all the past campaigns?

Oh wait, its the "most" ever. Cuz Rush says so. Seig Heil!

JohnnyD 05-28-2010 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 770518)
Whats the problem ?
Is it not a fact they donated big $ to his campaign ?

What's wrong with it is that they throw money at a ton of politicians - Dems and Repubs alike. So these "Obama is in bed with big oil" comments are asinine.

RIROCKHOUND 05-29-2010 07:09 AM

This is not a 'blame it on bush comment'

How much did BP et al., give to Little Bush? Clinton? Big Bush etc?

I bet it is all on par.

status quo unfortunately.

likwid 05-29-2010 07:25 AM

Actually this was a Palin-ism. :rotf2:

Palin: A Slip on Oil Industry Ties? - Washington Wire - WSJ

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According to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Republicans receive far more campaign money from the oil and gas industry than do Democrats.

So far in 2010, the oil and gas industries have contributed $12.8 million to all candidates, with 71% of that money going to Republicans. During the 2008 election cycle, 77% of the industry's $35.6 million in contributions went to Republicans, and in the 2008 presidential contest, Republican candidate Sen. John McCain received more than twice as much money from the oil and gas industries as Obama: McCain collected $2.4 million; Obama, $898,000.
So now not only can she see Alaska from her house, but she can't do math worth a damn.

JohnnyD 05-29-2010 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 770565)
Actually this was a Palin-ism. :rotf2:

Palin: A Slip on Oil Industry Ties? - Washington Wire - WSJ



So now not only can she see Alaska from her house, but she can't do math worth a damn.

The problem is that people turn on the radio, hear something that criticizes someone from a political party that isn't theirs and they take it as gospel. It's much easier to agree with the bitching and post little quips on the internet than it is to do research.

justplugit 05-29-2010 03:21 PM

As soon as it was known to be a major spill, Obama should have called all the agencies involved, MMS, Dept Interior, EPA and ALL the Oil company CEOs to the White House and mapped out a plan and found out all the equipment that would be available to contain the spill.
That's what a Leader would have done.

spence 05-29-2010 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 770675)
As soon as it was known to be a major spill, Obama should have called all the agencies involved, MMS, Dept Interior, EPA and ALL the Oil company CEOs to the White House and mapped out a plan and found out all the equipment that would be available to contain the spill.
That's what a Leader would have done.

Who said he didn't?

-spence

Nebe 05-29-2010 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 770683)
Who said he didn't?

-spence

Bush did it.

justplugit 05-29-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 770683)
Who said he didn't?

-spence

Me. :) Ya think he kept it a secret? :huh: :rotf2:

buckman 05-30-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 770683)
Who said he didn't?

-spence

We all know Obama is doing more then any President before him has.

Give it a few more months and when the new well is open every thing will be fine.

Joe 05-31-2010 08:24 AM

I had no idea they did not have technology to stop an oil leak after a major accident at a deep-water well in less than ninety days - wtf....

spence 05-31-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 770919)
I had no idea they did not have technology to stop an oil leak after a major accident at a deep-water well in less than ninety days - wtf....

It is pretty incredible huh?

Seems like the industry has just snowed the government into believing the technology was sound.

Well.

That's all about to change.

-spence

Raven 05-31-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe (Post 770919)
I had no idea they did not have technology to stop an oil leak after a major accident at a deep-water well in less than ninety days - wtf....


technically they did.........
except the installed fail safe was failing (for 3 months)
long before the rig exploded

British Petroleum succeeded in d#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g the protocols
designed to prevent this catastrophe because it had no
predecessor other than a ship run aground in Alaska.

justplugit 05-31-2010 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 770937)
It is pretty incredible huh?

Seems like the industry has just snowed the government into believing the technology was sound.



-spence

Or according to the Washington Post Article on Saturday, some inspectors
from the MMS allowed Companies to fill out their own reports and that some government inspectors accepted favors from oil companies.

While it's still to early to know where the blame lies at the rig, one thing is for sure,
unless honesty and integrity exists on both sides of the coin, the citizens will always pay.

JohnnyD 06-01-2010 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 770982)
While it's still to early to know where the blame lies at the rig, one thing is for sure,
unless honesty and integrity exists on both sides of the coin, the citizens will always pay.

In a Capitalistic society, "honesty and integrity on both sides of the coin" will never exist. Where there's money, there's greed.

detbuch 06-01-2010 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 771072)
In a Capitalistic society, "honesty and integrity on both sides of the coin" will never exist. Where there's money, there's greed.

If money was the only driving force for greed, and if money only existed in a Capitalistic society, and if elimination of greed would guaranty "honesty and integrity", then elimination of Capitalism would guaranty "honesty and integrity".

The trouble is, the presence of money is not limited to capitalistic societies. Nor is money the only driving force for greed. Nor is greed the only obstacle to "honesty and integrity".

JohnnyD 06-01-2010 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 771119)
If money was the only driving force for greed, and if money only existed in a Capitalistic society, and if elimination of greed would guaranty "honesty and integrity", then elimination of Capitalism would guaranty "honesty and integrity".

The trouble is, the presence of money is not limited to capitalistic societies. Nor is money the only driving force for greed. Nor is greed the only obstacle to "honesty and integrity".

A whole lot of qualifiers in there that have nothing to do with my comment. A simple comment, effectively turned into nonsense.

scottw 06-01-2010 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD (Post 771124)
A whole lot of qualifiers in there that have nothing to do with my comment. A simple comment, effectively turned into nonsense.

it was a stupid comment...he was just trying to help you out a bit :uhuh:


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