Wow, someone reads what I post!
yes, I'll agree with DK and Black Flag but to me the clash evolved a lot from just punk. Love the ramones, but they're not a diverse band. same with sex pistols
the Clash's album London Calling, contains reggae, ska, rockabilly, rock, punk rock, etc. They were very influential in bridging the gap from punk to mainstream and blending styles. Thats why I think they're, imho, a massive post punk band. There are no, zero, punk bands that headlined major stadiums. The Clash did. I stick with my opinion

n August and September 1979, The Clash recorded London Calling. Produced by Guy Stevens, a former A&R executive who had worked with Mott the Hoople and Traffic, the double album was a mix of punk rock, reggae, ska, rockabilly, traditional rock and roll and other elements possessed of an energy that had hardly flagged since the band's early days and more polished production.[44][45] It is regarded as one of the greatest rock albums ever recorded.[46] Its final track, a relatively straightforward rock and roll number sung by Mick Jones called "Train in Vain", was included at the last minute and thus did not appear in the track listing on the cover. It turned out to be their first US Top 40 hit, peaking at number 23 on the Billboard chart. In the UK, where "Train in Vain" was not released as a single, London Calling's title track, stately in beat but unmistakably punk in message and tone, rose to number 11—the highest position any Clash single reached in the UK before the band's break-up. London Calling reached number 9 on the British chart and number 27 on the US chart. The cover of the album, based on the cover of Elvis Presley's self-titled 1956 debut LP, became one of the best known in the history of rock.[43] Its image of Simonon smashing his bass guitar was later cited as the "best rock 'n roll photograph of all time" by Q magazine.[42] During this period, The Clash began to be regularly billed as "The Only Band That Matters". Musician Gary Lucas, then employed by CBS Records' creative services department, claims to have coined the tagline.[47] The epithet was soon widely adopted by fans and music journalists.[48]

Jimmy...you have the intent of the thread correct....
POST punk....:grins:
I hate term New wave, which is to me a more Pop/ commercial grouping.....some of the bands in here I'd call new wave. Kind of like the difference between heavy metal and hair bands.

Punk rock is a rock music genre that developed between 1974 and 1976 in the United States, the United Kingdom, and Australia. Rooted in garage rock and other forms of what is now known as protopunk music, punk rock bands eschewed the perceived excesses of mainstream 1970s rock. They created fast, hard-edged music, typically with short songs, stripped-down instrumentation, and often political, anti-establishment lyrics. Punk embraces a DIY (do it yourself) ethic, with many bands self-producing their recordings and distributing them through informal channels.

By late 1976, bands such as the Ramones, in New York City, and the Sex Pistols and The Clash, in London, were recognized as the vanguard of a new musical movement. The following year saw punk rock spreading around the world, and it became a major cultural phenomenon in the United Kingdom. For the most part, punk took root in local scenes that tended to reject association with the mainstream. An associated punk subculture emerged, expressing youthful rebellion and characterized by distinctive styles of clothing and adornment and a variety of anti-authoritarian ideologies.

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YouTube - Buzzcocks - Harmony In My Head
YouTube - THE BUZZCOCKS - I BELIEVE

whooooah....Dad pulls out the guns...:rotf2:

I always thought of the Ramones to be sort of a novelty act....not really punk....they were great though

The Clash are definitely punk. I always thought punk was more about the attitude than the actual sound of the music. The Clash played rebelious music with attitude. They were anti-government, anti-law enforcement, etc...

I posted the Dead Kennedys on other post. I did like them but TBH punk gives me a headache after a while then and now a days. Small quantities is how I like it and after that thread I will go back to my old folks music.

The Ramones are regarded as the FIRST punk rock band.
Its their baby. England picked up on it and people think its a british thing.

And BTW - you guys are all dumb, I still dont consider the clash punk :devil2:

I can't argue the dumb comment, but I would say that The MC5 or Iggy and The Stooges predate the Ramones and could be considered punk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. The Ramones were the first band to be called punk in a magazine, but it doesn't mean they were the first punk band. To me, punk is just as much attitude as it is music. Some people consider one of my favorite bands, Motorhead to be punk.

YouTube - MC5 - Kick Out The Jams

YouTube - IGGY POP and the STOOGES "search and destroy"

I actually consider Motorhead to be punk! serioulsy

All kidding aside - read this article. Im not as dumb as I seem

Why were the Clash so well-positioned to take punk rock beyond punk rock? This will strike some ears as heresy, but the first reason is simple: The Clash weren't a punk rock band. Joe Strummer had fronted a group called the 101ers, a pub-rock outfit more in the tradition of Dr. Feelgood or Brinsley Schwartz than the New York Dolls or the Stooges.

read the whole thing - The Clash: less punk than you think. - By Stephen Metcalf - Slate Magazine

your out of your element here and it shows....beat it

Thats the opinion of the writer of that article. I always thought that a lot of their persona as a band was a bit contrived, but they still had the "punk" attitude.

Punk Bands | Punk.tv

And I always considered Motorhead to be more punk or just rock and roll than heavy metal. They even did a real punk cover of "God Save The QUeen" years ago.

open mouth insert foot :uhuh:
I take it back...the Ramones are punk....:rotf2:
and to regain some cred....I can say I personally met them back in the day:uhuh:

anyways...back to "post punk"

YouTube - Pretenders - Precious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXewIR7Y7cc

yeah, she is the absolute worst lip sync in recorded history, but think how much cocaine it took to get that bad and she lived to tell about it (look for #^&#^&#^&#^& clarks new years eve, she just stopped and stared at the camera for twenty seconds and then walked off stage with the track playing right through and the band kept "playing" with their eyes all bugged out)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hwE0slNd3Y

actually, it's The Cahs (and they were wicked awesome!)

The Violent Femmes

YouTube - Violent Femmes- Add It Up

Just one more, Classic

YouTube - VIOLENT FEMMES-Blister in the Sun

Blister is definitely a classic of that time

These guys are probably the most underated/forgotten bands of all time

YouTube - XTC - Senses Working Overtime -1982

these guys did quite well in the post punk era (the complete opposite status of XTC)

YouTube - The Smiths - William

and then there is the one hit wonder classic of the day (I want a doctor to take your picture so I can look at you from inside as well)

YouTube - The Vapors - Turning Japanese

and same/same (the first MTV broadcast music video)

YouTube - First Music Video on MTV- Video Killed the Radio Star

IMHO, post punk is "New Wave" and the golden age of music videos

speaking of underrated and forgotten, well maybe just here and not in the UK

YouTube - Graham Parker and the Rumour - Stupefaction

and our college theme song

YouTube - Graham Parker-Local Girls Live 1979

YouTube - Graham Parker Nobody Hurts you live 1979

think Graham was unhappy with their old label?

YouTube - Graham Parker and the Rumour - Mercury Poisoning

Plus the Nick Lowe, Dave Edmunds, Rockpile thing. Two pretty good singer/songwriters together and separately

YouTube - Nick Lowe- Breaking Glass #140. *T*O*T*Ps*70s*

YouTube - Dave Edmunds and Rockpile - Girls Talk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry2td...1&feature=fvwp

A slightly different take on the same subject

YouTube - Depeche Mode - Strangelove (Remastered Video)

YouTube - Enola Gay - Music Video

YouTube - Soft Cell :Tainted Love Music Video

YouTube - New Order Blue Monday