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This just Screams "Presidential Dignity" when I see it :rolleyes: Bush Giving the Finger - YouTube Dignity upon Dignity.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ux3DKxxFoM |
Here's some dignity for ol Barry
Russian newsreader Tatyana Limanova makes insulting gesture at Obama - Telegraph Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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Yep, and all I said was the past 3 presidents didn't have it....maybe the next one???....who knows.
Maybe he should have embraced the Teleprompter :hihi: |
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You're really committed to mentioning that "Liberal = Baby Killer" any time a non-Conservative politician is mentioned. We get the point. |
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Birds of a feather... -spence |
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Sure, the Dem's have had their moments, but the Republican efforts to maintain authority and destroy Clinton and Obama really has no equal, even considering left wing desires to impeach Bush for misleading the country into the Iraq war. Obama might appear detached, but I don't think his attitude is a problem. From everything I've read he's completely engaged and works his ass off. Quote:
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And second of all, you said that insulting was inappropriate. I wonder when you got appointed the God of deciding who it's appropriate to insult, and who it's not appropriate to insult. But liberals often anoint themselves with such authority, in order to defend an obvious hypocrisy. |
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As for childish and smarmy remarks, I'm not sure there's much here to go on...unless you hated him to begin with. -spence |
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Sorry, remember Sarah Palin? Libs weren't out to destroy her? MSNBC is STILL obsessed with her, and she isn't even running for anything. "From everything I've read he's completely engaged and works his ass off." Spence, let me get this right. If you "read" that Bush was awesome, obviously you would dispute it. But when you read that Obama works his butt off, that's good enough for you, it must be true? Just trying to clarify. |
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on Sarah Palin..."you can put lipstick onm a pig, it's still a pig". On blue collar Americans: they cling to their guns and religion because they are bitter and racist. On the Cambridge police: I wasn't there, and I have no idea what happened, but it's fair to say the police acted stupidly. On those who criticized him for his remarks about the Cambridge police: I'm sorry if people took my remarks as derogatory. (Is there another way to interpret the word "stupid"?) On his bowling skills: I look like one of those special olympians out there (ha ha ha!!!! Boy, there's nothing funnier than making fun of handicapped people!) on republicans: they need to get in the back of the bus. This is just off the top of my head. Spence, care to comment on your assertion?? |
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As for efforts to discredit her, these were a response to an open invitation. Her VP nod was a trick play and she was obviously not ready for the job, if she ever would be...although she's making a hell of a lot of money just hanging out there :hihi: Quote:
Obama by contrast appears to put a lot more mental energy into the job. I don't think he has a bad attitude or hates America. If anything he's insulated himself too much from inside the beltway jabber and hasn't worked to control the debate. This has hindered his effectiveness. There are limitations to both styles. -spence |
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Spence is hilarious :biglaugh:
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Read some actual facts. At the time of her nomination, she had the highest approval ratings of any governor in the country. Her nomination catapulted McCain ahead of Obama in every poll, and they stayed ahead till the economy collapsed. |
Besides voting present what qualifications did Obama have to be voted president compared tgo Sarah Palin being VICE president?
Obama could have shown his love for this country and it's laws by telling his Aunt and Uncle to please leave and reenter legally. Wouldn't it be nice to have an American citzen working the package store job instead, I'll bet a vet would show some appreciation to have aunt tootiefruities apartment rather than her opinion that we owe her citizenship now (she is on video check youtube. Did they ever get anyone to replace Michele Obama and her $350k a year job and if so are they getting the same pay. Besides the automakers (union) bailout and the stimulous whcih went to mostly state and federal employees and contractors who has he helped? How much has she cost us compared to previous first ladies? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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'Barack stood up that day,' talking about a visit to Chicago neighborhoods, 'and spoke words that have stayed with me ever since. He talked about 'The world as it is' and 'The world as it should be…' And, 'All of us driven by a simple belief that the world as it is just won't do – that we have an obligation to, fight for the world as it should be." MICHELLE OBAMA DNC CONVENTION "As an organizer I start from where the world is, as it is, not as I would like it to be. That we accept the world as it is does not in any sense weaken our desire to change it into what we believe it should be - it is necessary to begin where the world is if we are going to change it to what we think it should be. That means working in the system. There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system, among not only the middle class but the 40 per cent of American families - more than seventy million people - whose income range from $5,000 to $10,000 a year (in 1971). They cannot be dismissed by labeling them blue collar or hard hat. They will not continue to be relatively passive and slightly challenging. If we fail to communicate with them, if we don't encourage them to form alliances with us, they will move to the right. Maybe they will anyway, but let's not let it happen by default." We will start with the system because there is no other place to start from except political lunacy. It is most important for those of us who want revolutionary change to understand that revolution must be proceeded by reformation. To assume that a political revolution can survive without the supporting base of a popular reformation is to ask for the impossible in politics. Men don't like to step abruptly out of the security of familiar experience; they need a bridge to cross from their own experience to a new way. A revolutionary organizer must shake up the prevailing patterns of their lives--agitate, create disenchantment and discontent with the current values, to produce, if not a passion for change, at least a passive, affirmative, no-challenging climate. A reformation means that masses of our people have reached the point of disillusionment with past ways and values. They don't know what will work but they do know that the prevailing system is self-defeating, frustrating, and hopeless. They won't but won't strongly oppose those who do. The time is then ripe for revolution. Change means movement. Movement means friction. Only in the frictionless vacuum of a nonexistent abstract world can movement or change occur without that abrasive friction of conflict." SAUL ALINSKY they were the "ONES" they'd been waiting for :uhuh: no doubt it was the first time in her adult life she was really proud of America |
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The line was a bit sensationalistic and Her speechwriters/handlers should have realized it left her too open for criticism. But given the situation it's also a quite reasonable thing to believe, the energy around Obama's candidacy was like something I know I've never seen in American politics. The reversal, that this is the first time she's ever been proud of her country as an adult is really quite a silly thing to believe when you put a little thought into it, especially considering how the Obama's have remarked that their story would be impossible anywhere but the USA. Yes it fits ScottW's tin-foil hat Alynsky obsessed fantasy of commies trying to undermine America, but outside of that, it's just a clumsy remark that was blown out of proportion by a well coordinated effort to tear Obama down. -spence |
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The Other Obama by Lauren Collins Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents. “We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day,” she said, as heads bobbed in the pews. “Folks are just jammed up, and it’s gotten worse over my lifetime. And, doggone it, I’m young. Forty-four!” From these bleak generalities, Obama moves into specific complaints. Used to be, she will say, that you could count on a decent education in the neighborhood. But now there are all these charter schools and magnet schools that you have to “finagle” to get into. (Obama herself attended a magnet school, but never mind.) Health care is out of reach (“Let me tell you, don’t get sick in America”), pensions are disappearing, college is too expensive, and even if you can figure out a way to go to college you won’t be able to recoup the cost of the degree in many of the professions for which you needed it in the first place. “You’re looking at a young couple that’s just a few years out of debt,” Obama said. “See, because, we went to those good schools, and we didn’t have trust funds. I’m still waiting for Barack’s trust fund. Especially after I heard that #^^^^& Cheney was s’posed to be a relative or something. Give us something here!” Read more Michelle Obama’s pride and the politics of candor : The New Yorker |
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Palin did have high marks as Governor, although I'm not sure I'd put the job on the same level as leading New York, Texas or even Iowa for that matter. We are talking about a state that has a tiny population and vast natural resources that by law benefit the voters. Big topics on the legislative agenda are the wolf population and how to allocate the 442 million Federal tax dollars they decided not to spend on the bridge to nowhere. Hell, that's more than a half million dollars per resident! When she hit the spotlight it was clear that she was completely unprepared for the job. Yes, she's hot and delivers a solid snarky one liner, but beyond that there's not a lot of substance. The media attention she attracted did help McCain in the polls, and the economy did have a big impact on their demise. But the simple fact is that the voters saw her as a novelty in the end. She was a trick play that gave McCain a bump, but when the reality of the next year became clear, voters had more confidence in Obama and Biden. McCain blew it. Had he picked Joe Lieberman as is rumored to be his personal choice...they would have cleaned up. -spence |
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You should start posting this on the NASCAR blogs :hihi: -spence |
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sounds like a lot of familiar whining..."give me a damn education, give me some damn healthcare and give me some damn trust fund money"....nice:uhuh: based on her reception at NASCAR, I'd say "middle America" has got her figured out :uhuh: |
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A tanking economy, two wars, 10 natural disasters etc...hell, this would have been tough first term for anyone. The fact that we didn't slip into a depression, that we're exiting Iraq, that we've killed a heck of a lot of terrorists including OBL, expanded health care coverage, a lot of positive financial and military reforms, restrictions on lobbyists, incentives for small businesses etc... There's a lot to sell the independent voter on. Obama's bigger worry should be that the left (and younger voters) feel he has led from the middle and might not mobilize like they did in 2008. But, it's looking like the GOP might have a similar problem getting the religious right to the polls as well. In the end I think it's going to be a very tight race. Obama is a good debater and the debates will probably decide the election. -spence |
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