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Joe 03-20-2012 07:22 AM

http://images.gofishn.com/media_file...bigstriper.jpg
I can tell ya how this will go: Peter Vican will win. Then there will be a big party at Ballards. Later, we'll hear rumors that several participants were violated by a flamboyant Ukrainian bartender after drinking rohypnol-tainted PBR.

big jay 03-20-2012 07:34 AM

Is there a link anywhere to the actual tournament rules and regulations?

GattaFish 03-20-2012 07:38 AM

its a shore tournament..... right,,,???

The Dad Fisherman 03-20-2012 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GattaFish (Post 928167)
its a shore tournament..... right,,,???

Both

http://boatinglocal.com/fishing/pabs...d-tourney.html

Block Island Times: The beer company PBR [Pabst Blue Ribbon] sent representatives to a Tourism Council meeting Tuesday, March 6, to talk about a new fishing tournament the company is planning to sponsor on the island this year.

The 2012 Block Island Striped Bass Tournament will run from June 1 to July 7, said PBR’s Rob Reilly, and offer $25,000 in prize money, with separate categories for largest fish and on-shore fishermen. The tourney will cover state waters and the principal weigh-in station will be on Block Island. Entry will be $30. Organizers envision it as an annual event.

“We want this to be a community event,” said Reilly. “Hopefully for years to come this will be something you can take pride in.”

Joe 03-20-2012 07:46 AM

I think I might register for the shore category under the name "Frank Booth," and wear my "well-dressed fisherman" disguise.

Blue Velvet Pabst Blue Ribbon - YouTube

Sea Dangles 03-20-2012 08:11 AM

Intense flick,Hoppers shining moment.

Swimmer 03-20-2012 08:24 AM

I am amazed one person here, Rob Rockcrawler, admitted to even drinking that weasel piss. They sponsered the OTW tourney one year didn't they? They served warm beer at the awards ceremony, no? The beer turns your insides green.

tysdad115 03-20-2012 08:36 AM

PBR contact page, no phone number given but I'm sure it can be found. I sent an email asking if they were aware of the current situation in Striper stocks, explained the negative effects of killing large fish...but I'm not that bright, perhaps someone can do better.
PBR

The Dad Fisherman 03-20-2012 08:51 AM

I've pounded a few PBR Pounders in my day as well :hee:

JohnnySaxatilis 03-20-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 928162)
Boy...you guys are a going to be a thirsty bunch....if you're going to boycott PBR for sponsoring this tournament don't forget to boycott:

Anheuser-Busch...they are sponsoring the Striper Cup

Narragansett, Harpoon, Boston Beer Company....oh and Pabst too...they sponsor the Martha's Vineyard Derby....and no coffee either...Keurig is a sponsor as well

and lets not even go down the road of all the Tackle/Gear manufacturers that sponsor these tournaments....everybody going to boycott them as well

Boycotting Pabst is like giving up liver for lent :huh:

Scottw has the right idea...get organized and present alternatives.

All the Block Island Tourism Committee sees is the opportunity to turn this into their version of the MV Derby...and look at the money that generates for the MV locals during that tourney...its a no-brainer for them. They need to know that their are other alternatives to a tournament that will bring in the same revenue to the island

well said dad. by the way, I'd take an ice cold PBR any day, stop bashing the perfect drinking game beer. I sense a lot of beercism going on here lol
So what are some of the alternatives, besides a C&R tourney? And im just curious why is there more draw associated with kill tourneys? Is it just easier to manage or what?

The Dad Fisherman 03-20-2012 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnySaxatilis (Post 928187)
Is it just easier to manage or what?

Yep....C&R means you have to take somebody's word for it....when there's cash involved, it brings out the worst in people.

as far as options...why not a Kids tournament....maybe award prizes for the number of kids you put on fish....need to take date stamped pics as proof. Points awarded to that angler based on a "per kid that catches a fish" basis. But then the beer companies can't get there advertisement dollars in it.

Maybe the tourney includes a "Per Veteran" category, a "Per Woman", a "Per Senior Citizen" category.

Prize money gets awarded to charities that match up to the categories.

"Make A Wish Foundation" for Youth
"Wounded Warrior" for Veterans
"Susan Komen Foundation" for Women
"Alzheimers Foundation" for Senior Citizens

Maybe get people to do something for someone else other than themselves.

Just some thoughts.....

Joe 03-20-2012 11:30 AM

The Block Island businesses have about 12 good weeks to make enough money for the year. The revenues from the "shoulder season" of May and Sept/October - while heavily promoted, are very small in comparison. After that it drops off to nothing. They're not giving away money when their own economic survival is tenuous at best.

Liv2Fish 03-20-2012 07:33 PM

Personally, I don't drink when I fish. I've posted evidence of why in the past. When I do drink, I don't drink PBR for sure. I probably excrete PBR after I drink what I drink. No Offense to those who like it.....

If PBR or any other brewer wants to sponsor an event that would bring beer drinking patrons to the island, why not put up the same money for a serious volleyball tourney and maybe a bikini contest every weekend, culminating in a final match for both on the last day. Make it a trophy event where the winner takes it home for the year and has to defend the BI title next year.

They would draw more people, sell more beer and food, and not offend the patrons that populate the island in the spring and fall off seasons.

For $25K in prize money, surely they can come up with a more profitable promotion than killing breeding age fish from a crippled species.

I would think BI values the economy created by the surf guys that make the trips every year and wouldn't want to upset the off season business that we bring.

How would negative publicity affect their decision? Other than emailing PBR, what can we do?

Joe 03-21-2012 07:51 AM

The fishing tournament takes place mostly at sea, so the islanders are a lot less likely to shoot that down - because it's not on the island.
A bikini contest takes place on the island. For a place where drinking to excess is almost out of hand, it is not a good idea because it fuels the fire. The police presence is small and they'd be vehemently against it.
Also, it runs counter to the veneer the island tourism people have constructed which depicts the island as a quiet, eco-tourism destination. It's really a heavy drinking destination, but that does not look too good in tourism literature.

Fly Rod 03-21-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by joe the plumber (Post 927914)
Tommy,
Just read the latest on the BI Times online.On March 6 reps from PBR appeared before the BI Tourism Council.The proposed tourny dates are set June 1-July 7.Only fish 35lbs or over qualify.They claim this will prevent over fishing and is the best course to Bass conservation.The article went on with a quote from a BI Tourism Commitee member saying this would provide a economic boost to the island during the proposed time period.No word on a vote.


When it is not about MONEY,....it's all about MONEY. :) :)

Clogston29 03-21-2012 08:52 AM

Tough to blame PBR for having a tournament, when ASMFC says everything is OK with striper stocks. They're a beer company, not biologists, and are sponsoring a tournament that operates within current rules; no different than Striper Cup, MV derby or any other tournament. The blame here should go in ASMFC's direction. Each individual can obviously make up their own mind as to whether to enter or support this or any other tournament, but if you want to complain or take action, a beer company doesn't really seam like the right direction to me.

joe the plumber 03-21-2012 05:28 PM

Ok...Here goes.I have been posting on this site for about 4 years now.While I don't post much I listen.....(read).I'm lazy,I don't allways like to comment on all posts,although I wish I had the time,especially this thread.So here comes my crazy request.....JOHN.Can you install a "LIKE"or "DISLIKE" button (yes,like FB) for all future threads???

joe the plumber 03-21-2012 05:31 PM

Sorry....I mean comments on threads.

snake slinger 03-21-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clogston29 (Post 928351)
Tough to blame PBR for having a tournament, when ASMFC says everything is OK with striper stocks. They're a beer company, not biologists, and are sponsoring a tournament that operates within current rules; no different than Striper Cup, MV derby or any other tournament. The blame here should go in ASMFC's direction. Each individual can obviously make up their own mind as to whether to enter or support this or any other tournament, but if you want to complain or take action, a beer company doesn't really seam like the right direction to me.

well said!

Joe 03-21-2012 09:47 PM

Good point. I suspect the complaint box at PBR has been overflowing for quite some time.

Raven 03-22-2012 06:38 AM

that would require the facebook link
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joe the plumber (Post 928454)
So here comes my crazy request
.....JOHN.Can you install a "LIKE"or "DISLIKE" button (yes,like FB) for all future threads???

Job applicants are being asked for there facebook password before they are even being Hired
....so the employer can read up on their prospective applicant.

maybe the google + 1 would be a better
idea .... so that others who are in agreement can click away

buckman 03-22-2012 06:40 PM

I'm thinking most of these guys would be fishing anyway and these events are always a good time. Am I the only one here that takes a 35# striper home to eat?? Do the rest of you guys release a #50 if you catch it?
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Uncle Rob 03-22-2012 08:04 PM

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I'm sorry, but for the lower dumb un-informed what are you talking about ??????

The Dad Fisherman 03-22-2012 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 928623)
I'm thinking most of these guys would be fishing anyway and these events are always a good time. Am I the only one here that takes a 35# striper home to eat?? Do the rest of you guys release a #50 if you catch it?
.

I've said this before...If I catch a 50 I'm taking it home and Mounting it...then I'm taking it to the Taxidermist

Joe 03-22-2012 10:27 PM

Thirty pound+ fish taste like crap. If you poke around their body cavity, by their internal organs, you'll see thumb-nail sized parasites that look like something from outer space.

joe the plumber 03-23-2012 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe (Post 928656)
Thirty pound+ fish taste like crap. If you poke around their body cavity, by their internal organs, you'll see thumb-nail sized parasites that look like something from outer space.

I could not agree more.How I wish we could eat them in the 18-24 inch range.....

Sea Dangles 03-23-2012 06:18 AM

Another myth,they don't really taste any different than 20 pound fish. Go to a place that knows how to cook it and I think you will agree.When restaurants buy the fish they want the larger size because the yield is more cost effective. I have heard the littles are tasty though.

likwid 03-23-2012 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe (Post 928208)
The Block Island businesses have about 12 good weeks to make enough money for the year. The revenues from the "shoulder season" of May and Sept/October - while heavily promoted, are very small in comparison. After that it drops off to nothing. They're not giving away money when their own economic survival is tenuous at best.

You seem to forget Block Island Race Week which brings some massive amounts of money over.

RIROCKHOUND 03-23-2012 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 928671)
Another myth,they don't really taste any different than 20 pound fish. Go to a place that knows how to cook it and I think you will agree.When restaurants buy the fish they want the larger size because the yield is more cost effective. I have heard the littles are tasty though.

God I hate to agree with Chris....

A bled, cared for bigger fish to me tastes as good as a 12lb rat.

Most bigger fish aren't bled/gutted immediately b/c people want to get an accurate weight....

Clammer 03-23-2012 08:56 AM

OK , Back-in-the-day

When commercial fishing was a free for all

the large dealers // the ones that shipped paid by size

16" to 6 # were select .top money

6#+ to 15# Mediums

15#+ & over large

many small dealers wouldn,t even take anything over 10#

depending on when & where selects where worth anywhere between . 4 to 8 X,s large .

Even last year I saw that one dealer started putting around the 34" ,35" in different boxes than the large ><><><


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