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Raven 05-18-2013 10:10 PM

stem cells were first discovered in fetus material (i dunno 10 yrs ago)
then also in embryonic fluid (5 years ago)
now they are being cloned individually (they just discovered how)

With the level of Science and technology that we are at
much more can be done to intervene to increase
survival rates the same as protecting the baby turtles
the several nights they all hatch out....

or creating more HATCHERIES ....if they are getting $2,000
per pound then there's certainly some incentive there

MakoMike 05-19-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 999377)
stem cells were first discovered in fetus material (i dunno 10 yrs ago)
then also in embryonic fluid (5 years ago)
now they are being cloned individually (they just discovered how)

With the level of Science and technology that we are at
much more can be done to intervene to increase
survival rates the same as protecting the baby turtles
the several nights they all hatch out....

or creating more HATCHERIES ....if they are getting $2,000
per pound then there's certainly some incentive there

American eels have NEVER been bred in captivity!

MakoMike 05-19-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 999313)
Those 9000 elvers aren't just dying of natural causes, most are probably being eaten by natural predators. Remove the 9000 and the natural predators just eat the 1000 that are left.

-spence

I disagree. most predators are opportunistic and if the eels are there they'll eat something else. Also we don't know what the causes of natural mortality are, so it is merely an assumption that it all due to predators. As I said before, the main cause of mortality on adult, silver eels is hydroelectric dams.

Raven 05-19-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 999406)
American eels have NEVER been bred in captivity!

not yet .... but i believe it's certainly possible

N.ShoreFisher 05-19-2013 04:21 PM

I wanna make a hybrid eel-bluefish! Oh wait, it's called a snake head....ooops!

Slipknot 05-19-2013 05:46 PM

tHERE IS AN ARTICLE ALL ABOUT THE GLASS EELS SELLING FOR $2000 a pound in todays' Sunday Boston Globe FRONT PAGE in the center.
sure tell more people how to make a hundred fifty grand in the spring quick like :rollem:
2 states allow comm fishing for them, Maine and S. Carolina

I hope some of them survive

MakoMike 05-20-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 999427)
not yet .... but i believe it's certainly possible

Maybe, certainly with the price of elvers where it is now, there is plenty of incentive.

spence 05-20-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike (Post 999407)
I disagree. most predators are opportunistic and if the eels are there they'll eat something else. Also we don't know what the causes of natural mortality are, so it is merely an assumption that it all due to predators. As I said before, the main cause of mortality on adult, silver eels is hydroelectric dams.

It's a systems problem though...unless steps can be taken to reduce human caused mortality you still only have the remainder in the food chain. If predators shift to other food sources does that pressure other threatened species?

-spence

Nebe 05-20-2013 09:41 AM

I can make glass eels. :hihi:
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paradoxjim 05-20-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 999542)
I can make glass eels. :hihi:
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Do they work well for bait?

Nebe 05-20-2013 12:38 PM

Suppose so. Jigged vertically with assist hooks
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MakoMike 05-21-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 999532)
It's a systems problem though...unless steps can be taken to reduce human caused mortality you still only have the remainder in the food chain. If predators shift to other food sources does that pressure other threatened species?

-spence

If what you are saying is that its all interrelated and what we really need is ecosystem management, I couldn't agree more. The problem though is that relatively little is known about the ecosystem, so there is little to base any ecosystem management on. One easy fix is to shut down hydroelectric turbines during the prime migration of silver eels to the sea, but NOAA/NMFS doesn't have the authority to do that, so the killing continues.


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