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GregW 05-27-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Higgie (Post 1000537)
314 dead bass on 1 side of the canal is what i counted. End to end. Thats not counting all the guys

I knew it looked like a lot of fish on the asphalt. No wonder there were no fish around this morning
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And I'm sure that's not counting the fish the EPOs confiscated. The fish kills are insane during these times. I wish people would keep quiet for the fishes sake
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5/0 05-27-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW (Post 1000543)
. I wish people would keep quiet for the fishes sake
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The Blabernet does not help at all.
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Chunkah 05-27-2013 04:35 PM

Anyone with a small bit of experience knows when to fish the place in the spring...it's not brain surgery.

The crowds were bad all weekend, but I just don't have these nightmarish experiences most on here seem to have. I only had my line crossed once all weekend...guess it helps when you're fishing shoulder to shoulder with guys that know what they are doing.
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Swimmer 05-27-2013 05:33 PM

I expected the crowds. Its like opening day used to be for freshwater fishing. It was shoulder to shoulder, #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s to elbows. I only heard of one snit. My only concern was the fish i couldn't turn and then it broke the shank on a brand new 4x vmc treble. Alas i will return. And the guy to my right about 30' that kept dropping his cast right in front of me wont be there. It didn't bother me. Actually it was kind of funny.
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Grapenuts 05-27-2013 05:33 PM

and you thought it was comm. doin all the killin:rotf2:and you want to teach more this sport of fishing?

sully12rng 05-27-2013 05:46 PM

Don't bother its a madhouse . Every day is a nightmare. Fights if new guys show up...yes there was one ..State police came. No room. Etc. Not worth it.
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WESTPORTMAFIA 05-27-2013 06:04 PM

Do what I did next year.Find somewhere else to fish. Didn't want to bother with the show. Still had fun and got some fish. No bitching as you guys knew what you were in for. Go at night during the week no blitzing but no crowds
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sully12rng 05-27-2013 06:56 PM

I do both. I was fortunate I had a group of guys roll up to our left on the am swing when they saw us bent. All were awesome guys we had a good rotation no lost fish lots of laughs. Hand shake high fives w strangers we met and off to breakfast. What I saw around us was gross. If anyone here happens to be the guys beside us thank you. You made me feel like I had gone back 20 years on Sunday AM. I was the cat in the blue snow pants talking about turkeys and zacharies making you all laugh! And singing the progressive ins. Commercial...... "it was the best day........ the best day.....".
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Jackbass 05-27-2013 07:17 PM

First time I have ever seen no parking left at the herring run was today not many fish to be caught either. Didn't have any problems where I was.
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tattoobob 05-27-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by fatcow (Post 1000529)
314 dead bass on 1 side of the canal is what i counted. End to end. Thats not counting all the guys that left.

To me this is sad, this is why it should be one fish a day at 36" (greedy bunch)

Mike P 05-27-2013 07:49 PM

Drove by Red Top around 11 and there was a pile by the scale. All of the food pantries on the entire Upper Cape wouldn't be able to handle the Red Top drop-offs, plus the fish that the EPO confiscated from poachers (whether you're unlicensed or over the limit, in my book you're a poacher). Lots of those fish will go to waste, and you had to know that anything under 25 lbs wasn't winning anything yesterday.

If you're not going to eat the fish----don't take it. Don't delude yourself by thinking that the fish will go to a good cause---cause you know what? The pantries wind up dumping most of the fish that gets donated, because the people that use food pantries don't want fish. They take it because they don't want to discourage donations, but people want stuff for their kids that's quick and easy to prepare--stuff like easy mac and cereal. That's straight from the woman that runs Bourne's food pantry.

tattoobob 05-27-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 1000590)
Drove by Red Top around 11 and there was a pile by the scale. All of the food pantries on the entire Upper Cape wouldn't be able to handle the Red Top drop-offs, plus the fish that the EPO confiscated from poachers (whether you're unlicensed or over the limit, in my book you're a poacher). Lots of those fish will go to waste, and you had to know that anything under 25 lbs wasn't winning anything yesterday.

If you're not going to eat the fish----don't take it. Don't delude yourself by thinking that the fish will go to a good cause---cause you know what? The pantries wind up dumping most of the fish that gets donated, because the people that use food pantries don't want fish. They take it because they don't want to discourage donations, but people want stuff for their kids that's quick and easy to prepare--stuff like easy mac and cereal. That's straight from the woman that runs Bourne's food pantry.

This is why all kill tournaments should be band,

Jackbass 05-27-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tattoobob (Post 1000585)
To me this is sad, this is why it should be one fish a day at 36" (greedy bunch)

I agree with you.
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5/0 05-28-2013 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jackbass (Post 1000599)
I agree with you.
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That's how it was back in the mid to late 90's if it was for those guide lines we wouldn't be where we are today,catching fish.
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Slipknot 05-28-2013 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 1000590)
Drove by Red Top around 11 and there was a pile by the scale. All of the food pantries on the entire Upper Cape wouldn't be able to handle the Red Top drop-offs, plus the fish that the EPO confiscated from poachers (whether you're unlicensed or over the limit, in my book you're a poacher). Lots of those fish will go to waste, and you had to know that anything under 25 lbs wasn't winning anything yesterday.

If you're not going to eat the fish----don't take it. Don't delude yourself by thinking that the fish will go to a good cause---cause you know what? The pantries wind up dumping most of the fish that gets donated, because the people that use food pantries don't want fish. They take it because they don't want to discourage donations, but people want stuff for their kids that's quick and easy to prepare--stuff like easy mac and cereal. That's straight from the woman that runs Bourne's food pantry.


People suck
I had no idea this actually happens, you mean people bring their catch to Red Top and weigh it, then leave it there? Appauling, what a friggin waste of fish, I guess those heros don't realize what they are doing to the species we all love.


"If you're not going to eat the fish----don't take it."

Mike, you're probably preaching to the choir here , but that should be a sign at Red Top and maybe they will think twice.


unbelievable, I guess I am naive

iamskippy 05-28-2013 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by tattoobob (Post 1000585)
To me this is sad, this is why it should be one fish a day at 36" (greedy bunch)

1- 34" for Rec and 20 - 36" for comm imho..


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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 1000590)
The pantries wind up dumping most of the fish that gets donated, because the people that use food pantries don't want fish. They take it because they don't want to discourage donations, but people want stuff for their kids that's quick and easy to prepare--stuff like easy mac and cereal. That's straight from the woman that runs Bourne's food pantry.

Maybe they should hold cooking classes so these " poor " people who can't feed their kids will actually feed them something healthy... This strikes a major nerve with me. You have your hand out, yet you wanna pick and choose what you get, there is a serious problem with that................ Here is what we have today and this week, if you don't like it starve, stop catering to these people and it will be amazing what will happen........ i'm done on this one now before i get myself banned.......


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Originally Posted by tattoobob (Post 1000595)
This is why all kill tournaments should be band,

10000% agreement... I like what the GoTight tournament is doing, although not a part of it, its encouraging.

Rob Rockcrawler 05-28-2013 09:50 AM

Maybe OTW should be contacted about the pile of fish at Red Top. Another line to the rules would not hurt anything. If a fish is weighed and abandoned at the weigh station it shall not count toward the striper cup. Also, your privilege to weigh in more fish for the tournament will be forfeited for the remained of the season.

I would also like to see the EPO truck that as loaded with fish also be topped off with fishing gear. So you take someones fish and give them a token ticket on top of it. That sure is some deterrent. They should also have cops on the banks ticketing people for littering. Watch em when they arrive and when they leave, the dunkins cups should be worth at least 100 bucks each.

piemma 05-28-2013 10:10 AM

I posted this in the wrong thread:

Well is sure sounds like you guys had a great time. I am happy for all the board members who happened upon a blitz in the Canal.
What bothers me is the wanton slaughter of so many big fish. I have been into a slow pick of 20#+ fish a the Canal for 3 weeks. Night tides, out of the way spots and no crowds. Killed none and all swam away alive.
So do I sound like sour grapes?? Maybe but with the Bass stocks crashing it seems totally irresponsible of Red Top to sponsor a "kill" tournament. Everyone has the right to kill fish. It's part of our heritage.
But I think, and it's just my opinion, that a kill like what occurred Sunday does nothing to help the stocks. I figure there were 1000 20# and up fish that were killed in one massive slaughter. That's 1000 bass that will not have the chance to breed.
When the moratorium returns, and it surely will, I will be unashamed to say, "I told you so".

Mike P 05-28-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by iamskippy (Post 1000638)
1- 34" for Rec and 20 - 36" for comm imho..




Maybe they should hold cooking classes so these " poor " people who can't feed their kids will actually feed them something healthy... This strikes a major nerve with me. You have your hand out, yet you wanna pick and choose what you get, there is a serious problem with that................ Here is what we have today and this week, if you don't like it starve, stop catering to these people and it will be amazing what will happen........ i'm done on this one now before i get myself banned.......



10000% agreement... I like what the GoTight tournament is doing, although not a part of it, its encouraging.

They tried packaging the fish with other goods, requiring the donees to take fish along with the pre-packaged items. But we all know that most of the clients are just going to toss the fish. Even I hated fish when I was a kid. But if it was on my plate, I didn't get any choice in the matter. :D

I have nothing against kill tournaments, as long as people are either going to keep their fish, or at least, be realistic about what they weigh in. A 19 pound fish isn't going to win anything. Or even count in the OTW team standings at the end of the thing. But publicizing that fish will go to the food pantries encourages people to bring marginal fish to the weigh in, and drive away feeling good about donating to the needy. It's kind of a two-edged sword.

Swimmer 05-28-2013 06:13 PM

Its kind of hard cooking in a fleabag room with a hotplate
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tattoobob 05-28-2013 06:25 PM

The problem with this is it's totally legal to do what ever you want with your 2 fish a day, So if you go and weight your fish then throw it in a dumpster it's okay as long as head and tail are intact

nightfighter 05-28-2013 06:53 PM

Photos of the pile would go a long way to educating what just one or two fish from an angler can add up to.... Not meant to berate the shop involved, but their long term viability is tied directly to the viability of the resource. They can't be pleased with a pile of what amounts to discards..... Surely there are enough groups, clubs and businesses around the area in question that could ban together and get conservation based signs in place....no?

BigFish 05-28-2013 07:27 PM

I weighed in at Red Top Sunday am and I have to say I saw no pile there while I was there?? Not to say there wasn't one later?? These things are why I do not fish tournaments any more! A high percentage of the people participating fish irresponsibly and waste the resource!!! If this in fact was the case....Red Top needs to change the way they do things going forward!

Circlehook 05-28-2013 08:15 PM

Someone should donate a fryer to the pantry. I bet they would take pre-cooked fish. Or bake up some fish sticks.
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Redsoxticket 05-28-2013 08:26 PM

The volunteers at the pantry are thrilled to death having to gut, clean and prepare the fish.
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WESTPORTMAFIA 05-28-2013 08:27 PM

Sounds like assumptions as far as what got wasted. Does anyone know? If not let's not just assume. This happens all of the time. People come here and bitch and complain but do NOTHING about it. Either stop bitching or ban together and do something about it.
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bloocrab 05-28-2013 09:29 PM

Didn't you guys get the memo??? Fish caught from the Ditch running May 21 - June 11 ......DON'T COUNT!! Just like boat fish.


Congratulations on the PB Bigfish.


Like the professor said, I never seen so many people there before. It was like Black Friday for Stripers...except everyone showed up late

Canalman 05-29-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1000536)
I'm staying in RI until this calms down.

See you on Black Friday Paul

piemma 05-29-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Canalman (Post 1000871)
See you on Black Friday Paul

Yeah, Dave it will probably be then by the time it calms down.

Swimmer 05-29-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma (Post 1000879)
Yeah, Dave it will probably be then by the time it calms down.

I can tell you this a. m. It was pretty quiet during the deluge. Had rain gear but not the Aqua Skinz, silly me. Very few fish caught.
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