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Mr. Sandman 04-14-2014 12:20 PM

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I am a big fan of Johnson Evinrude Triple-Guard Marine Grease. It is blue and holds up for a long time in seawater. You can find it on ebay at a resonable price. I have tried numerous types. IMO This is the seems to be the best underwater grease. I am sure the Navy has something better but for what you can buy yourself it seems to work.

Never tried anti-seize underwater, I would be most worried about wash out.

The white lithium seems to cake up after a long period and any kind of regular bearing grease gets washed out quick. There is a very sticky red grease that I picked up from NAPA and it seems pretty good too but I like the blue stuff better. Volvo Penta makes a good prop grease it is a beige color not as sticky and seems to hang around for a season but over a long time (multiple seasons) it seems to disappear (it is expensive) In any case if you pull the pins each season and re-grease you will never have a problem. They will come out like butter each season now. I

I am glad you got them out with damage to the unit or finger like I did on my last one...

Van 04-14-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by freebie (Post 1038992)
don't use never seize. that's a big no no in a saltwater environment. marine grade grease will work fine and that pin will slide right out in the future. I've done some 5 yrs later and the grease hold up. I've seen some with never seize at 6 mos that are frozen again.

Hmm... more good info. I've been using a "secret recipe" of marine grease and that high end never seize. I think the cheap neva-seize dries out and is a problem. My mixture has been working for me for years. Props and bolts always come off. I'll keep an eye on it though,,,thanks.

Van 04-14-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman (Post 1038996)
I am a big fan of Johnson Evinrude Triple-Guard Marine Grease. It is blue and holds up for a long time in seawater. You can find it on ebay at a resonable price. I have tried numerous types. IMO This is the seems to be the best underwater grease. I am sure the Navy has something better but for what you can buy yourself it seems to work.

Never tried anti-seize underwater, I would be most worried about wash out.

The white lithium seems to cake up after a long period and any kind of regular bearing grease gets washed out quick. There is a very sticky red grease that I picked up from NAPA and it seems pretty good too but I like the blue stuff better. Volvo Penta makes a good prop grease it is a beige color not as sticky and seems to hang around for a while but over time seems to disappear (it is expensive) In any case if you pull the pins each season and re-grease you will never have a problem. They will come out like butter each season now. I

I am glad you got them out with damage to the unit or finger like I did on my last one...

That finger is......:yak5::yak5::yak5:

MakoMike 04-14-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Van (Post 1038981)
1) Soaked the crap out of it with PB Blaster and tied some rags around the shafts to keep it wet like Beetle said...
2) Used heat like Sandman and BigBo said...
3) Drilled holes in the ends and used the pointed end chisel on the impact hammer like FishingFreak said...
4) Then got the boy down with the big compressor.

"VIOLA"

The bottom pin came right out !!!!:jump1:
The top pin was a bit flattened so I had to dremel grind the end.
Hit it with the heat then the chisel point in the hole I drilled in the end and it shot out across the driveway !!!:jump1:

I didn't disconnect the wiring, just moved it out and tied it up with a rope. Plenty of access now to the transom and brackets.
I have to buy a new upper pin and some snap rings and repaint. This time with barrier coat so I can use a bottom paint on the metal without electrolysis worries.
I have the pins at work to put in the lathe and smooth out.
I am also going to mill a couple of long slots in them to hold grease, and make grooves on the pins right where it is under the bracket. These will hold my mixture of marine grease and my super never-seize inside the housing. As long as I service them every year, should never seize up again.

Thanks again to all. This is why this site kicks arse.......
Now let's go fishing...:fishin:

Congrats. I've been following this thread but had no suggestions to add. Good job Boys!

Van 04-15-2014 11:02 AM

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Got some free time this morning and took the pin into the shop.
I spun it and just used some abrasive paper and it cleaned up easy. All the corrosion was on the aluminum.

I took it to 600 grit and added some V-grooves to hold extra lubricant.
Some in the mid section and one under the bracket. I will do the same on the upper pin once I receive it.

50 BUCKS PLUS SHIPPING FROM EVINRUDE OR LOCAL MARINE SHOP.:fury::fury:
35 BUCKS ONLINE. PLUS 5 BUCKS SHIPPING. :jump1:


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