I'm with Skippy, as I think least the majority of the country will be.
The damage is already done.
Most won't stick around to hear the outcome or the vindication. They will be on to the next great sportsing event or media created world crisis and everyone will forever label them as cheaters.

The overblown out of proportion hype this accusation by a losing team causing the NFL to begin a Warren Commission like investigation is simply mind blowing.

all because of negative history that won't leave the team ever

sad day in Patriot land


You are right John, the team is cooperating fully, not like the Saints bountygate.

it's rediculous

they are tired of what the Pats have and continue to accomplish and jealous they aren't as good

Yes FF, the court of public opinion is opposite a real courtroom

Once it is said, you can't unsay it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FAT_pRqo3w#t=90

gotta love fitzy

Either way I think it's such a joke.....the main thing is, it's ruining my enjoyment of my team in the SuperBowl. Just let me enjoy this......tough to do.

I totally agree Mugz . This really has become a nation of fun vac's.
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I thought of that; but were the Colts balls 2lbs under then too?

This is a non-issue in the win over the colts, but remains indicative of the culture there...

Supid story or not I got a feeling Bill B is looking at a year suspension being 2 time offender.

Hockey has specific rules about the curve of your stick...you can use whatever curve you want until the other team challenges it and the ref measures it...if it's illegal, you get a 2 min penalty...then you are free again...baseball has the spit, grease, vaseline pitcher issue that you get ejected/suspended for. The players in the field use dirt in their glove to skuff up the ball as much as possible for the pitcher, when ump sees too much rash, they change balls. The batters use too much pine tar, corked bats etc, those are fine and suspension worthy... Basketball the ref drops the ball from waist to see how high it bounces up before a game, not too scientific?? All the rules are bent and broken...Pats did it and got caught...they aren't the only ones that do it but they got caught and will be made an example of...it sucks. If this is such a big deal, why doesn't the NFL provide the balls? Why does the home and away team bring their own balls to a game? Seems stupid to me...this isn't bowling...everyone should have to use the same ball provided by the league...
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Pretty funny! :jester:

You forgot executioner! :bshake:

Not sure of your question?

If temperature was such an issue they should have had people in the parking lot where it was colder inflating peoples tires..... :wall:

#1 this is reported! #2 the reporter conveniently fails to mention the additional 12 balls.
The entire thing sounds like a pile of crap. All the way around. Not buying the insidious cloak and dagger stuff.
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Pats scored 28 unanswered points in the second half. Clearly the ball wasnt an issue.

Your tire analogy is a bit extreme .Kinda like all the bass will be gone if charter-boats get 2@33" ;) Go look at your boat trailer tires in the cold, they look like they are flat. It's a fact , air expands with temperature.
Hater
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Every major college team manipulates the footballs as does all 32 NFL teams. Its an unwrittten part of the game. Aaron Rogers came out and said how he overinflates the game balls and hopes he doesn't get caught. Eli Manning has the game balls manipulated for months before they put them into service. Does this make it right? No. Should there be a punishment? Yes. But the balls should be controlled by the NFL up until kick off. The system is flawed.
I doubt most NFL players could tell the difference between 13.5 psi and 11.5 psi. This whole thing is being blown out of proportion and the Pats are victims of their decade plus stretch of success.

That is over time hot cold hot cold . There was not enough time for this to happen and the tire analogy and dead on.

Hater yes. I am a hater cause i dont like cheaters and that is what they have been about for the last decade or so.

The NFL will be a much better place with out BB and princess brady.. Cant wait for that jack a55 Kraft to go away as well.

Oh and lets not ruin a great thread by bringing the Striper debate into it. Keep that BS for the longest circular thread on SB.
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Substitute the word winners for cheaters in the above
Jealousy will do that
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You are absolutely correct Mike.

Personally i respect winners just not the cheating kind. To this day it amazes me how blind Pats fans are to the truth, reminds me of the old Cowboys days.
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EXACTLY, it wasn't even 24 hours to enjoy, celebrate another championship and trip to the superbowl. it pisses me off.
The stigma of spygate never goes away, now this crap being blown out of proportion will just exasperate anything and everything about cheating and destroy the accomplishments while every yahoo chimes in around the country blasting the organization/coach/owner/QB whatever. Sports fans love controversy I guess, or media does.

They tried that and the QB's all complained up and down, the brand new balls have a film on them and it affects how you can grip it, that is why they now let them break them in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-c...-ts=1421782837

ironic but fitting title

What's the bigger issue 2lbs of air or a guy beating the crap out of his girlfriend and dragging her out of the elevator like a road kill blocking his SUV? Patriots are a team the league loves to hate and unfortunately for us, the league as an image issue on not dealing with things, so we are going to be screwed next year for sure.

It really sucks to have such a great year of accomplishments tainted by a NON-issue, deflated balls wouldn't have impacted that game or any other to the extend people suspect. I know it's not going to happen, but boy wouldn't a blowout win for the Pats make a statement to everyone.

At least I got a laugh listening to 105.7 and a paraday sung to the AC/DC song big balls, go listen http://www.wror.com you will too.

Shoot a huge deer and the jelouse haters cone out of the woods with BS accusations .
Catch a record fish .. Ditto
Be the best team in a decade ....
Speaks more to the character of the haters and those that are successful. Pathetic
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Remember WWF? it was scripted to generate a soap opera type plot. The scripts created heros and villains.

Who's to say this isn't all scripted? I'm always the skeptic.. Sorry.
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You mean to tell me that Wrestling is scripted?

If Brady didn't throw an interception with a deflated ball that is supposedly used to give him an advantage....would this be a story right now?
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Yes.
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Is this why you hate George Brett?
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After hearing BB press conference statement, it will fall to hearing from TB about his personal preferences, which is where BB left it to play out, IMO. So next up under the microscope will be TB and Josh McDaniels I would think....

The press conference was interesting. Said he has never heard anything about deflating footballs. Kind of debunks the report from yesterday that the Colts reported it to the NFL after the November game. If they did and the NFL didn't contact Belichek it falls into the NFLs lap. Brady will be talking at 4pm today.