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It's a self-perpetuating cycle of decreasing revenue and increasing expenses. They call that the death spiral. in the private sector Very difficult to escape from. CT has so much going for it. To be one of the few states losing population? That's what "failure" looks like. |
Nashville historically votes liberal. Tenn. conserv. If taxes are your main point, Tenn. wins. Educ. poverty rate, opportunity, etc. Conn wins.
Not a lot of insurance jobs in Tenn.(although I did have a insur. client in Brentwood in a prior job). States and territories Rank State Poverty Rate(by Household Income) People in Poverty by Household Income (in thousands) 2014 Poverty Rates (includes unrelated children) Supplemental Poverty Measure (2010-2014 average) (Geographically Adjusted) - United States 14.8% 45,950 16.0%[1][2] 4 Connecticut 10.8% 376 10.6% 12.5% 41 Tennessee 18.2% 1,165 16.7% 15.5% tough to read - sorry Following from US news and world reports on an overall rating on crime, educ. opportunity, etc. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings US News and World reports - 2014 Conn - #12 Tenn #39 Fattest states: Conn: 21.4% Tenn: 31.6% fattest state Miss. 33.8% Life expectancy at birth - Conn near top, Tenn near bottom bachelors degree or higher - Conn near top, Tenn near bottom The reddest states have long been the poorest. If the gov. didn't transfer lots of $ to those red states life there would be even worse. another article'; http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/op...y-is-blue.html |
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Tenn #8 on depending on Feds Conn #42 on depending on Feds. with an aging pop and more people retireing, people are heading out of colder climates and heading to warmer areas. I always enjoyed Brentwood (sub. of Nashville). Very affluent area. nice people. Edit: I would note that the places you mention are all liberal in cons. states. |
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Nope. The marketplace has spoken , and they say you are wrong. If you look at states as a whole, sure CT wins, we have Fairfield County and they don't. We win because we have a section of our state that's an easy commute to Manhattan. There are certain cities in the Carolinas and TN that stink (also there are cities in CT that stink). However, there are cities in the Carolinas and TN that compare very well with nice CT suburbs in terms of quality of live, and far lower taxes. That is where many people are moving. If those places are as crappy as you said, they would not all be on Amazon's list of finalists. Note that CT was bounced in the first round, but TN and NC are among the finalists. CT liberal elites like to say the south is nothing but meth heads and trailer parks. Not remotely true. Look at Fort Mill SC. Rock bottom prices, and public schools as good as Avon CT. Those are the places we should be trying to emulate, but liberals won't concede they're doing anything better. |
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There are tons of math-related jobs in Charlotte, sometimes referred to as the banking capital of the country. |
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If climate was the big driver, why isn't Massachusetts losing population like CT is? Climate is a part of it, of course. So is cost of living. And what people feel they get for what they pay. Here in CT, our taxes are now on par with Boston and NYC, but we can't offer what they offer. We can offer what Charlotte and Nashville offer, but way more expensive. We are a base model Honda Civic, with the price tag of a Lexus. That's a tough sell. If people are willing to pay through the nose, many feel they get more for their dollar in Boston or Manhattan. If people want a small-city feel like we have, there are far cheaper options. CT no longer has any value proposition. None whatsoever. "I always enjoyed Brentwood (sub. of Nashville). Very affluent area. nice people" My brother lives in the beautiful Nashville suburb of Franklin. Dirt cheap and beautiful. "I would note that the places you mention are all liberal in cons. states" People aren't moving to the liberal cities. People are moving to the suburbs in those states. |
Me and the wife have been discussing a move down to NC when we retire in a few years. Have been down there a few times visiting my daughter at school and love it.
Went out to the Asheville area last visit and I can see us out there in a few years. I can sell my house up here and get twice the house for half the money. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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I used to go to the Raleigh/Durham area a few times a year for work. That was a hopping, booming area with the big schools. I know a little about the Charlotte suburbs, enough to know they are cheap and booming. Going to the Outer Banks this summer for the first time ever, cannot wait. I love what I have seen of NC. You get the low taxes and milder weather, without the culture shock of the deep south. There are places in NC where you might never hear a southern accent, because everybody is a tax refugee from New England. |
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austin is booming Texas as a whole has been hurting. Charlotte is booming North Carolina isn't doing as well as a whole. Nashville is booming, etc. Etc. People are moving there because of those liberal cities. They want to be near them otherwise your brother would have moved a hundred miles outside of Nashville or other similar City Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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I guess the next question would be if Trump's base is benefiting from the current economic environment or if it's mostly going to the Dems. |
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Asheville had that whole Portland ME vibe to it. they have a great Music scene, great restaurants, and of course great beer. Really liked Charlotte as well, pretty clean city that offers sports and great BBQ. :-) Wouldn't want to live there because I'm not a fan of city living, but is a nice option to have relatively close by. I'm sure, just like any state, they have their $hithole areas (yeah, I used THAT word :hihi:) but for the whole of what we saw we liked it. |
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Its becoming an area for a lot of small business growth as well. it is definitely not hillbilly area by any stretch, the growth is actually being fueled more by millennials than anything else, I'll just have to look past the Man-bun |
Ashville is very liberal and expensive by NC standards, cheap by New England standards.
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I live in friggin Massachusetts for gods sake, you think I'm worried about mingling with liberals. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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If those places are as crappy as you said, they would not all be on Amazon's list of finalists. Note that CT was bounced in the first round, but TN and NC are among the finalists. [/QUOTE] And all of the 20 cities (except I think Indiapolis) are liberal. So which of the following 20 cities do you think are conservative? I've entered my guesses. Austin, Tex. – liberal Boston– liberal Chicago– liberal Columbus, Ohio – Voted 80% for Obama Dallas – 2nd most liberal city in Texas after Austin Denver– liberal Indianapolis - conservative Los Angeles– liberal Miami – leans liberal Montgomery County, Md. – liberal Nashville– liberal Newark– liberal New York– liberal Northern Virginia– liberal Philadelphia– liberal Pittsburgh– liberal Raleigh, N.C. – liberal Toronto– liberal Washington– liberal |
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Sure, the Carolinas have their awful areas, as do CT and Mass. But unlike CT and Mass, they also have great areas that are much cheaper than anything you can find in CT or Mass. CT doesn't have a singe city that's (1) a great place to live, and (2) has low taxes and a low cost of living. That's the advantage that the Carolinas offer, and they are taking advantage of it, to the detriment of CT. Our tax revenue is decreasing because people are leaving. But our expenses are increasing at the same time. Worst combination. This summer, my 11 year-old has a big karate tournament in Greensboro. We'll spend 2 days there, then 2 days in the Charlotte suburbs to see a friend who fled CT for NC, then to the Outer Banks for a week. TDF, you know what I've heard about Charlotte? On the outskirts of the city are areas that look and feel like suburbs, but are technically still part of the city. I don't know why more cities don't do that, I would imagine a lot of people would like to live on a suburban type street but be very close to the downtown. I'm a huge fan of BBQ, looking forward to trying some in NC this summer. |
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