I've said this before but the whole media bias thing is largely a bunch of bunk. The major news outlets still adhere to journalistic standards pretty effectively. The problem is how people have developed an appetite (i.e. addiction) for instant breaking news news combined with massive amounts of cheap fake news/propaganda.

What is bias anyway? If you report on the president obviously lying, are you supposed to give his lie equal footing?

If you way back in the archives you'll see I was a McCain supporter until he lost his mind and chose Palin over Lieberman.

The press is just reporting his deranged behavior.

Media treatment of Republicans didn't create Trump.

He has a single significant legislative achievement. Most of Trump's "getting things done" has just been to break stuff without any plan to fix it. Now they're talking leaving the WTO. The recklessness of this is mind bending and the GOP is hiding under the table.

If you catch a big fish and the picture gets in the paper and you tell the reporter that it is the biggest fish ever, you are the greatest fisherman, would you call them fake news for only reporting that you caught a big fish or do they need to just accept your claims as truth?
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This is the saddest and scariest part. Many lawmakers in the gop disagree with things like tariffs and his handling of NK, Syria, Russia (we’ll see), but they are scared #^&#^&#^&#^&less of being primaried by a Trumpite so they are collectively hiding except for the few retirees.....
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"the whole media bias thing is largely a bunch of bunk"

To you, and to others who think the whole world is exactly like you, sure. Just like a fish isn't aware that it's wet. To those who think clearly, the bias is obvious and glaring, and it's now helping our side.

Trump is Hitler, women are going to be outlawed!!!

"I was a McCain supporter until he lost his mind and chose Palin over Lieberman. "

So the republican nominee is supposed to pick a liberal democrat for a running mate? I see you didn't hold it against Obama or Hilary when they chose running mates within their party.

"Media treatment of Republicans didn't create Trump."

Not entirely. Combined with liberals who demand tolerance on Monday and engage in riots in Tuesday to silence conservative speakers, had something to do with it. CNN giving debate questions to Hilary had something to do with it. The right reached its limit of being able to tolerate the horsesh*t. The results speak for themselves.


"He has a single significant legislative achievement"

Well, he's not part of the legislative branch now, is he? He eliminated lots of regulations, cut taxes for individuals and corporations, ended the Obama practice of separating families, nominated a superb supreme court justice who was on the right side of some major, major decisions.

"break stuff without any plan to fix it."

He's not breaking national security or the economy, and that's what matters to most people. What's broken, exactly?

You guys keep claiming that we are saying things that aren't even close to what we said (and one only does that, when one cannot respond to what was actually said, and I get that, you aren't holding any cards).

It's fair to call him out for the things he actually says and does. It's not fair to fabricate things, nor is it fair to virtually ignore the good he is doing. When he acts badly, criticize him, when he does something productive, give him credit. Your side can't do it, they just can't.

Here is a recent report on Trump exaggeration, of course since they don't toe the party line they also are fake.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...y-eisenhower-s
Sorry, but he doesn't deserve the superlatives he awards himself.
Just because you claim more than you are due, doesn't mean you get it.
He certainly deserves a participation award.:uhuh:

That's because you've been brainwashed to think the press is the enemy.

CNN LEFT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy.Factual Reporting: MIXED
World Press Freedom Rank: USA 45/180

Fox RIGHT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy Factual Reporting: MIXED
World Press Freedom Rank: USA 45/180

NBC CBS ABC LEFT-CENTER BIAS
These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH

BBC LEFT-CENTER BIAS
These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: VERY HIGH


New york Times Washington post LEFT-CENTER BIAS
These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH
World Press Freedom Rank: USA 45/180


wallstreet journal RIGHT-CENTER BIAS
These media sources are slightly to moderately conservative in bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Right-Center sources.

Factual Reporting: HIGH


So in a nut shell media bias is another manufactured lie from the far far right that has now gained wide support thru out the GOP and its Supporters ... if all we had was CNN and FOX it would be a wash

But the rest of the press listed have Factual Reporting some a little bias both ways.... But for Trump and his supporters its all Fake lies made to discredit him... 9 out 10 report the same story Trump supporters are going with the 10ths versions of events aka FOX

It would have been a winner likely and brought a lot of bi-partisanship. Instead they went for the trick play.

Most voters don't give a whip about colleges who don't want hate speech on campus. CNN didn't give debate questions to Clinton either, a democratic operative who was a contributor to CNN passed info along. Can't blame the media here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otbml6WIQPo

He ended the Obama practice of separating families? Now you're just trolling, I won't be a party to that nonsense.

Backing out of the Iran deal, coddling up to Putin, disparaging NATO and our longstanding alliances all undercut our national security.

Starting unnecessary and reckless trade wars, pulling out of favorable trade agreements, lying about our trade imbalances, lying about the deficit etc... etc... isn't helping the economy. Market gains for the year are gone and business is spooked.

9 out of 10 report the same story? Is there some collusion that they choose to reflect each other? Or are they motivated by the same bias?

Has anyone rated World Press Freedom? Does it have a bias?

You lie when you say "But for Trump and his supporters its all Fake lies made to discredit him..." It's not ALL fake news, but much of it is, including minimization or omission of positive news re Trump.

The argument as usual is baseless, with no substance other than you claim that it is true.
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I didn’t say he was awesome. But he’s nowhere near, I mean nowhere near, the cartoon villain the left and the media make him out to be. How many times has the media mentioned lowest black unemployment ever, and how many times have they mentioned Russia? Now I’m not saying russia isn’t a legitimate story, but it’s not the only story. Your side has lost its mind, absolutely lost its mind. Unemployment is down, take home pay is up, and the best idea you have is to let grown men share a bathroom with little girls if they identify that way.
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When was the last time you got one right?

They are dishonest, politically motivated hacks. They are not the enemy, they are actually helping my side, they are making trump ( a despicable person) sympathetic. Not easy to do, but they are pulling it off. They are absolutely, irrefutably, helping my side. Neither they, nor you, are rational enough to see it.
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Just out of curiosity, why weren’t you criticizing obama for not picking Mitch McConnell? If McCain should have picked Lieberman, why the double standard on your part? Have fun with that.

Market gains are gone ytd. The market is way up since he got sworn in, and that’s what matters.
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It’s that Trump magic, started as soon as he was sworn in.
Now he’s going to pick a Supreme Court Justice from a list someone gave him, he’s interviewing to get a “feeling” he’ll know in a minute cuz that’s what he does.
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"It’s that Trump magic, started as soon as he was sworn in."

As always, you are responding to something that isn't even close to anything that anybody said. As always, you do that, because you cannot respond effectively to what we are actually saying. The economy did well under Obama, It is doing better, now, under Trump. Obama got the credit he was due, Trump does not. Your side cannot bring themselves to admit that he's not Hitler.

"Now he’s going to pick a Supreme Court Justice from a list someone gave him"

And what the hell do you suppose Obama did? Put on a disguise and sit in lower courts all over the country to see judges for himself?

Put down the Kool Aid for three seconds, and think, man.

Baseless? You who habitually throw stuff out without an apparent point and fail to back most of your stuff up, especially not in your own words? I asked 5 questions. Are the questions baseless? Aren't questions their own base?

The one positive statement that I made was a response to Wayne's saying that for Trump and his supporters the press is all Fake made to discredit him. It is not baseless, as one of his supporters, to say it's a lie to accuse me of saying that the entire Press is Fake. The basis for my saying that I don't claim such a thing is that I have not so claimed. I have said some of it is Fake, and it is that part that Trump and his supporters (including me) refer to as fake. Neither Trump nor his supporters have said the entire Press is fake.

And there have been several citations of fake news supposedly discrediting Trump submitted in past posts. As Spence would say, it's in the archives.

Amazing how unreasonable some people can be when it comes to this subject.
Nothing I say can shed any light on a closed mind.

https://youtu.be/gWXiNcVtuU4
Just keep believing
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I enjoyed the video.

Is there a personal or intellectual line Trump can not cross ?? or are you just willing to shelve morals, personal integrity, and comon decency to get a crumb that may fall off Trumps Table

reference to Franklin D. Roosevelt,

“Should we go back to 16 years? Congressman, can we have that extended? The last time I jokingly said that, the papers started saying 'he's got despotic tendencies!' No, I'm not looking to do it, unless you want to do it.”

“He's now president for life. President for life,” Trump said of Xi. “No, he's great. And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot someday.”

Sorry its not hyperbole when it comes from the POTUS

thats funny coming from the guy who worn out "you can keep your doctor" To prove Obama was a liar liar and was horrible .. The media is helping my side making Trump look sympathetic No you are by being an enabler selling your soul to the devil for a few crumbs while turning a blind eye to everything else thats going on in the Trump Magic show ... and convincing yourself its the media's doing ... Sorry Trump has all ready put you in a state of hypnosis.. you just think you can control and put the genie back in the constitutional bottle if it needs to happen .. maybe but its doubtful

never thought being against the POTUS for calling the enemy of the people was unreasonable


"Nothing I say can shed any light on a closed mind "

your right .. especially when the message came from a closed mind to start with

This thread is priceless,we have two close-minded people calling each other close-minded. Not exactly constructive but high on entertainment value. Keep spinning the wheels and make a difference.
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"coming from the guy who worn out "you can keep your doctor" To prove Obama was a liar "

But I am 100% correct when I say that. When Obama was selling the ACA, he said you could keep you plan and doctor if you wanted. He was wrong. I don't believe he was lying, I think he believed it to be true, it just turned out he was wrong.

"No you are by being an enabler selling your soul to the devil for a few crumbs "

I am brutally critical of Trump when he deserves it, which is often. We have that in common. The difference between us, the only difference, is that I can also give him credit when he does something that helps us.

You define "a few crumbs" as Apple paying $38 billion in federal taxes, and adding 20,000 new jobs. That's one company. Only someone with literally zero understanding of how the private sector works, would call that crumbs.

Jim, Here is how the crumbs are distributed and if you look you can see why it is called crumbs. No it is not all Trumps fault, but the tax cut did not reduce the disparity or make it so the bottom 50% had more of a chance to gain some wealth.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.fba25527f619

Anyone notice the tragic irony that this post was followed shortly after by a guy shooting up a newspaper?

Only a lefty loon would represent those pieces as being tied together.
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